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You don't have to like Romney to see Lowry is exactly right. These attacks are completely ridiculous, and underscore a deep ignorance of dynamic markets on the part of the attackers. This crap has no business in a Republican primary.

I honestly think Romney brought this on himself. I have to believe that Perry and Gingrich fundamentally believe in capitalism, but are taking an "at all costs" attitude when it comes to kneecapping Romney.

I pray the kneecapping works. The cost of it not working will be more programs like mitten care.

Verrry Interesting. Teh racialist card(played on antiMormon bigotry) was insufficient to cow the teeming orcs.

Zie Nazi card!

NRO is now beyond parody. Friggin coneheads, from France, I knew it all along.

These people defending Romney by calling it an attack on captialism have lost their minds. That's like saying going after Jeremiah Wright was an attack on freedom of religion. I guess all the Romney defenders didn't notice and won't come to Rick Santorum's rescue, after Romney's PAC attacked him. This is after Santorum didn't join in on the Bain criticism. Way to go Mitt! You just showed how slimy you really are!

Holly Godwin's law...!!!

You never go full Leni, man...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law

Where was Lowry when Romney was setting up a website specifically to attack Rick Perry, and saying that Rick Perry was not responsible for the job increases in Texas? Where was Lowry when 45% of the negative ads running in Iowa were from Mitt attacking Newt Gingrich? Now that his guy is in the barrel, he's got his Hanes all in a wad?

Romney made a choice; he could run on his record as governor of Massachusetts, or try to run on his business acumen. He chose the later because he knew that his gubernatorial record would not hold up to scrutiny. Saying "Well, my hands were tied because I had a Democrat Congress" would have made him look weak and unable to lead his state, and consequently the nation. So he chose Bain, and it's on that Bain fence he will hang himself.

Little by little, more and more will come out about Bain and its corporate raider philosphy. The WSJ just published a short list of the companies taken over by Bain and it is clear Bain was not investing in those businesses for the long haul. It was a slash and burn policy, and if the company lucked out and survived, well, all the better, but if it didn't, Bain reaped massive profits anyway by loading the companies with massive loans that were used to pay off the initial investors, i.e. Mitt Romney.

Now, rags will tell you that HE is not afraid of David Axelrod (as if it were rags running against Obama) but I guaran-damn-tee you, Romney is. And the more Romney appears to be The-One-Selected-By-All-Conservative-Talking-Heads-Using-Their-Influnce-On-The-Little-People the deeper Axelrod will dig and the harder Axelrod will attack.

Stick a fork in Mitt. He's the McCain of 2012.

What Zane said.

I agree with zane's conclusion.

I deplore his demagoguery, and his populist bullsh!t.

But, hey, it works for Obama.

I wish we had a General Patton- A man who would piss on the waters of people who believe in terror.
Col. West 2012.

France, Italy, Austria, just got downgraded, outlook negative. Portugal's debt is junk. Greece is dead.

America's banks stand to lose $1 Trillion and US Treasuries have turned the corner and are headed up with Fed committed to zero rates thru 2013.

Tell me again how the voter is going to turn out for the fat cat capitalist.

Geez people, and I know most of you actually get this, but, regardless of where scrutiny comes from and what it looks like, these issues, in today's economic and political climate are problematic.

I'm a raging pro-capitalist, I believe in winners and losers, I'm a black and white thinker, I believe people build their own mountains and dig their own graves. As much as I resent and am sickened by progressives who think my vote can be purchased in exchange for government cheese and healthcare, I resent and am sickened by Republican insider power brokers who see conservatives as nothing more than props during primary season, to be seen and not heard.

The crux here folks, is that they don't want to hear what we have to say. They don't want to answer questions. They don't want anyone to look behind the curtain. Because the fix was in, it was settled, Romney was to be the nominee. Lowry using the Nazi card is exactly the template of organizations like Color of Change. Regarding their candidate, they cannot engage in honest, open intellectual debate on the merits, so the answer is to defile and defame their critics.

The Republican establishment and Romney apparatchik is no different than the Obama-Dem-Media-Progressive cabal.

"It's the Romney, stupid!"

"Tell me again how the voter is going to turn out for the fat cat capitalist."

So, gary, you're a class warrior now, too?

The choice seems to be the (nominal) free marketeer (whichever one) vs. the Collectivist.

That isn't a hard sell to me.

The perception of “class conflict” has grown because the media have paid the putative conflict so much attention. They have done so in part for ideological reasons–lefty journalists have had a weird preoccupation with “income inequality” for as long as we can remember–but also in part because it’s newsworthy, especially when the president of the United States is trying to foment class war.

It would also be newsworthy if he succeeded–and that is the story the AP is trying to peddle. But Pew’s findings show it is a phony war. If underlying “tensions between rich and poor” were really rising, the survey would have found some evidence of actual hardening of attitudes across socioeconomic lines.
--James Taranto


Yep. It is a Collectivist meme, about a Collectivist lie, told to foster Collectivist ends by Collectivist organs.

Or...SNAFU. Which too many of us run scared of.

Leaving the hyperbole aside, artificial illumination has arguably been the greatest symbol of modern progress. By making nighttime infinitely more inviting, street lighting — gas lamps beginning in the early 1800s followed by electric lights toward the end of the century — drastically expanded the boundaries of everyday life to include hours once shrouded in darkness. Today, any number of metropolitan areas in the United States and abroad, bathed in the glare of neon and mercury vapor, bill themselves as 24-hour cities, open both for business and pleasure.

So it is all the more remarkable that, in what appears to be a spreading trend, dozens of cities and towns across America — from California and Oregon to Maine — are contemplating significantly reducing the number of street lamps to lower their hefty electric bills.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/opinion/sunday/as-streetlights-vanish-a-return-to-a-darker-age.html?_r=1


How 'bout WE shape the election around REAL stuff...like who will let the American people drive the cars THEY choose to put money into, and who will provide the conditions where American cities have power?

Seems like a winner to me.

rags, you seem to forget that the (nominal) free marketeer has to take the primary first. Now, I understand that McCain has thrown his wieght behind the guy he worked with Huckabee to defeat in 2008, because the mindset seems to be that there is a pecking order and if you lost last time then you are automatically backed by the establishment this time. And although Ron Paul threw his W. Va. delegates to Huckabee to block Romney, he won't be doing that this time. And there will be no Huckabee/McCain back room deals to shove Romney to the top this year like they worked to shove McCain to the top of the delegate heap in 2008 by Huckabee releasing his delegates to McCain.

And who would have thought that a no-named, little known community organizer turned first term state senator, turned first term federal senator who voted "present" could defeat Hillary and go on to defeat the American war hero when we were involved in two wars?

Romney can't defeat Obama. Get that in your head. He doesn't have what it takes to sway those independents who are unemployed and are disillusioned with Obama. If Romney takes the nomination, Obama takes up his second term in the Oval Office.

You are flagellating a deceased equine, zane. Again. To hamburger.

At this point, and largely over this Bain crap, I am disgusted with the whole field.

We need an "out-of-the-box" candidate who isn't on stage yet...as much as I realize how impractical that is.

Who do you back?

An interesting read...

http://pjmedia.com/blog/crony-capitalism-there-is-nothing-new-under-the-sun/?singlepage=true

I object to the term "crony capitalism" as an apparent oxymoron.

Adam Smith used the term "mercantilism" for the practice.

In modern economic terms, Obama practices fascist economic policy much more than socialism.

But, by any name, it is disastrous. Always a curiosity to me that the Collective LOVES monopoly SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo much...

"The choice seems to be the (nominal) free marketeer"

Oh the simplisme. Thomas Dewey, Jimmy Carter, you're butts are saved.

rags, who am I supporting? Well, not the guy who speaks purdy and tells the audience what they want to hear instead of what he actually has a record of doing, not the guy who seems so damned uncomfortable around "common" folk that his body language is "I can't wait to get the hell out of here", not the guy who has, at one time or another, bought into every conspiracy theory that came down the pike, and not the guy who jumped to the other side (working for the enemy, so to speak) to advance his own resume.

Now, I will admit that Americans once wanted to know what a person had done that fell in line with their beliefs, and didn't trust what candidates said when they no longer had to walk the walk. Americans also wanted a president that represented their core moral values. But all that went out the window with the election of Bubba from Arkansas.

So who do I support? The guy who actually acheived conservative goals during his elected terms. You see, I would not hire someone who had actually proved he couldn't/wouldn't do the job.

You figure it out. (Hint, the guy closest to the philosphy of Congressman David Crockett from Tennessee)

Oh, and rags, the answer is NOT obvious. You will have to spend some time researching the speeches of Congressman Crockett to find the answer.

Yeah.

That's what I thought, zane.

Gutless.

rags, gutless? My, my, how brave you are behind your monitor.

No, dimwit, I'm not gutless. Just smarter than you and that pisses you off. If you are too lazy to do a simple Google search, that's your problem, not mine.

My question is, if Romney is going to run on his experience at Bain as this great jobs-creating success story, then why don't we hear about how that experience worked so well in MA while he was Governor? 47th is nothing to brag about, especially when you have championed for an economy-killing government overreach like Romneycare.

I would never need to do a Google search to know what Crockett said vis-a-vis fiscal responsibility at the federal level.

And you are gutless.

Step up. Tell the people here who you really are, and who you really support. Not is some stupid "riddle-me-this" game.

Be honest. Or try.

rags, I eliminated FOUR of the current GOP candidates for you. If your powers of deduction are so pathetic you could not figure that out, I suggest you go sit at the kid's table.

And why do you care who I support? Do you intend to counter my vote by voting for someone else?

You want me to tell "people" (meaning you) who I really am? You go first. Give us your given name and location. The truth shall set you free.

See, zane...???

Now you are just embarrassing yourself, and proving my point about your cowardice.

Everyone here is waiting for you to answer a simple, direct question directly.

Not by attacking me with stupid ad hominem, or pretending I'm asking for your name and address.

Be honest. Man up.

rags, you said "Tell people here who you really are." That is an indication you want to know my identity. I said "You first." Tell us who YOU really are.

And real cowards are the ones who threaten to eat someone's lunch like ice cream while hiding behind their monitor. Talk is cheap. Also, calling someone a "coward" is a futile attempt to prop up your own ego. Major fail.

Having somone point out you lack of the power to deduce clear cut answers must hamper your ability to function in the everyday world. Why don't you start your own blog so you can insult people with your school yard taunts to your heart's content?

Twist and turn, zane.

A simple, direct answer to a simple, direct question is all I've asked you for.

All this avoidance is telling people volumes about you.

Including what a moral coward you are.

Just speak honestly, forthrightly.

rags, get back to me when you reach [mental] maturity. You have exceeded your comic value.

Morning, Rags.

Team Romney has released a very nice video describing Romney's pro-life stance in Massachusetts as witnessed by Mary Ann Glendon. Ms. Glendon is a founding member of Women Affirming Life and has been active in the pro-life movement in Massachusetts and internationally for the last three decades. She is also a former ambassador to the Holy See.

Just thought of you when I saw the vid, considering our past pro-life discussions.

http://mittromney.com/embed/video/shares-our-values

Ah, zane.

Now you run.

Nothing speaks "coward" like the departing foot-falls of zane.

One last time...

just say forthrightly who you support. (I know, of course. You are typical of your ilk.)

Be a minch. For once.

I understand, Trista, you favor Romney.

There is nothing that would persuade me to vote for him in a primary.

Nothing.

rags, what is there in your personality that forces you to exhibit your lack of cognative skills? There are six GOP candidates. I eliminated four of them for you. If you lack the ability to figure that out, perhaps you can get some 5th grader to do it for you.

Ah, again with the ad hominem in place of a simple declarative statement.

Just say it, zane. Don't be ashamed.

Unless, of course, you are ashamed...

rags, here, let's draw some guidelines. You want my choice for the GOP nominee (as well as my identity) so here are the rules: you name the four I have eliminated, and tell me your name, and I will be happy to complete the connect-the-dots that seem to be beyond you.

Rags, dearest, you are free to believe what you want, even if it's entirely inaccurate. On this issue of life, though, Romney is clearly more pro-life than you give him credit for.

Geez, zane, you just have no shame, do you?

I asked you a very simple question.

No preambles. No conditions. Nothing of the kind.

Just say who you support, and who you are (since who you support will tell us that).

Again, I know the answer. Your cowardice...coupled with arrogance...tells me all.

I want you to say it. Say it loud. Say it proud.

Man up, dude.

rags, you call me a coward. Since you have no way of proving that (except with juvenile attacks) and we know that you cannot win in a debate of intellect, pick your poison. How about dueling pistols at ten paces? I know some quite swamp land where you will feel right at home with the other creatures that slither.

And WHO I am is my identity, yet while you demand I tell you WHO I am, you make the absurd claim that you did no such thing.

Rational thought is NOT your forte.

rags, who are the FOUR candidates I eliminated? Show us what you've got, bubba.

Oh, contrare, zane.

I have demonstrated your chicken-sh!tedness right here. Proof positive.

I told you what would happen if you kept calling me names like "stupid" and "idiot" instead of just debating, and now it is done.

I have shown you a coward who cannot contrive to state a simple preference, and who turns himself inside out to keep from it. Most of know exactly why, of course.

You are a nutter. That is WHO you are. And we know who you support. And just how electable that fruitcake is.

The hunter is now the hunted

And he doesn't like Bugs having the gun, does he lol

rags, show us your superior intellect. Who are the FOUR candidates I eliminated? Since you think you are the sharpest tack in the box, I am sure the others would like to know how strong your powers of deduction are. Why do you run from stating who I eliminated?

Oh, and "stupid" and "idiot" are not names. They are adjectives that serve as a declarative statement.

Trista, conservatives don't fund abortions. As a matter of fact, conservatives do everything in their power to fight the abortion industry, like passing laws that hinder the ability of Planned Parenthood provide abortions in their states. Your man, Romney, funded PP by allowing the Romneycare to pay for abortions with a simple $50. co-pay.

But then, Romney only became pro-life with it was politically expedient in his race against John McCain and Mike Huckabee.

How easily some are fooled.

"My question is, if Romney is going to run on his experience at Bain as this great jobs-creating success story, then why don't we hear about how that experience worked so well in MA while he was Governor? 47th is nothing to brag about, especially when you have championed for an economy-killing government overreach like Romneycare.

Posted by: VaGal | Saturday, January 14, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Exactly!!! It cannot be said enough!

Well, first, zane, you coward, you didn't "eliminate" anybody rationally.

I know you are deluded enough to disagree, but delusion is not reality.

For instance, Gingrich managed to enact a lot of the Contract With America, including a balanced budget. Conservative, by any measure.

We could go on. You...in your delusion...FEEL the others are OBJECTIVELY not Conservatives. This is, of course, not an objective matter.

You think...in your delusion...you are a Conservative, as is your guy. This is simple nutz.

But who am I to get between you and your madness...???

That was not my role. My role was to expose you.

Lunch eaten.

If Romney is the nominee we will loose the most winnable election in the history of the country.

Perry, Newt and Santorum are all better choices than Romney.

It is Obamneycare, stupid.

rags, so you guess at one candidate that I eliminated. There were FOUR. And if you can't figure them out (after me giving you such hard information that my 8 year old neice could figure them out) you are punting.

Of course, now having been cornered like a rat, you continue with the "coward" mantra. Again, name your poison. Dueling pistols at ten paces? What is your preference?

And the only thing you have exposed is your juvenility, lack of cognative skills and wrongly inflated ego that doesn't allow you to back off when shown to be nothing more than a hack. You are now standing nakes in Times Square.

Again, you have reached the limits of your comic value.

Ronulin...Please...!!!

You are too crazed to even know when your ass has been handed to you...!!!!

HOLY GRAIL, Monty Python...!!!

Again, typical of the ilk.

Santorum is a better choice right now.

Perry is damaged goods. He did this to himself. I would vote for him over Obama in the general if he were the nominee, but seriously, is that even remotely likely at this point?

Newt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGUwDTxY_8k&feature=related Instapundit noted Newt's Super Pac helped Romney. Opps.

Romney is setting is Super Pac now on Santorum. http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/01/romney-superpac-going-after-santorum/ We can only hope it back fires on Romney.

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