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It would be better for the TEA Party for Mitt to lose if he is the Nominee. If he was to win, his failure to fight for and implement the conservative programs necessary for this nation to thrive, would discredit the Right for a generation. At least with Obama in power the Right has a foil with which to contrast conservative policies.

And Obama wouldn't be able to just as easily portray Gingrich as agreeing with him on healthcare because.....?

Jacksonian Libertarian - That's what I'm afraid of - If Mitt wins that setback is a real possibility

If ObamaCare is implemented...IF so many things fall on us during a second Obama regime...we really won't have an America any of us will recognize.

We either get rid of Obama (legally), or we face a very dark future.

"First of all, it's not worth getting angry about"

The whole country is angry about it, and that is what you gonna tell us?

Anyway, Romney is the one who was getting agry, because Santorum just wouldn't let it go!

Imagine the 2 thin-skinned socialists (Robamney) debating each other!

Man, I will sit back and enjoy the Dems destroying Romney, almost looking forward to that day!

If the alternative is Newt sitting on the couch with Nancy or any other lefty who butters him up, I'll take Mitt every time. With Romney, the election will be about Obama and his failures. With Newt as the nominee, it will be all about Newt. And that's not good.

Republicans keep attacking other Republicans is certainly going to help Obama win.

If the alternative is the father of Socialised medicine in America, I'll take Newt every time.

Romney is the father of socialised medicine in America.

Count the votes.

Just had to make clear the Rombots get it!

should be "make certain"

The tactics described above worked well for Jerry Brown against Meg Whitman in 2010:

1. Paint Meg as the wealthy businesswoman against the well-meaning public servant, Jerry Brown. (Republicans scoffed, thinking it would be a piece of cake to beat the one and only "Moonbeam" and his failed record.)

Likewise, paint Mitt as the "Man who is so rich he has a Trustee" versus the well-meaning public servant Obama who "worked his way through life as a community organizer."

2. Demoralize the California Republican base who really wanted Tom McClintock, the true conservative, over Meg Whitman, the moderate.

3. Have Meg's campaign tell the California Republican base that their issues don't matter and hardly bring them up at all against Brown. Instead just focus on jobs and the economy and that'll solve everything. Have Whitman harp on the theme that only a person with business experience can solve government problems. (There's only one problem with this: what if the economy miraculously improves right before the election?)

4. Two weeks before the election, when the polls showed both candidates at about 50/50 (with some showing Whitman at a slight lead), spring a manufactured scandal against Whitman. The scandal: Whitman hired an illegal-immigrant maid and didn't pay her, or abused her, or some such nonsense. Hype the "scandal" in the media for two solid weeks.

Remember, Democrats tried the "Romney hired illegal immigrants at his mansion" scandal once before so they could try it again, or find Jorge the illegal gardener who will speak up about the abuses he suffered under Mitt. Then they'll hype it with their media lapdogs for two weeks right before the election.

RESULT: Jerry Brown won by 13 points.

Don't think for a minute that the Democrats aren't studying the 2010 California Gubernatorial election to see how to take Romney down.

Dan don't you think Newt should focus on Romney saying socialised medicine is not worth getting angry about?!! How will he repeal Obamacare if he is not as angry about it as we are?

Come on Newt, get off the class warfare, focus on this and Romney's record as governor in Massachussets!

Ricky, I think a GREAT track for Newt to pursue would be to...henceforth...say in debates, "You know, Gov., the attack you've just waged needs a response. So, people can go to my website for my facts and comments on that, if they are interested.

But I need to use this time to talk to the people of America about my positive, liberty-based vision for a growing and strong nation".

THAT would be a game-changer.

"The single most telling frame through which to view Romney as a potential president, by far, is his performance for four years as governor of Massachusetts. When he was head of Bain, money was flowing in. When he was governor of Massachusetts, people were filing out."

Rags, as long as he stop the class warfare, it is crazy, what is Newt thinking!

"But I need to use this time to talk to the people of America about my positive, liberty-based vision for a growing and strong nation".

Good advice. Hope the Newtsters forward it to him. Also to talk more about Mitts record in MA.

It seems Drudgereport is in trouble for its actions yesterday, and some "on our" side now claim that they focussed on Newt cause they thought people knew about Romney's record. Hopefully their will be more examining of Romney's record as governor.

Beats the hell out of me, Ricky. He hasn't called me to come work for him, either.

What COULD the man be thinking...!?!?!

LOL

I hear a lot of people more eager to say, "I told you so", than anything else.

All the Conservatives in the field had something wrong with them - Newt included. Now, people are crying because there's nobody else left and they can't wait for Obama to win because Romney is a RINO (and may well be).

Because then they can say they were right.

OK, if there's a magic Conservative out there who is it?

It's not Palin. She knows she can't run with only 2 1/2 years as AK governor.

Daniels, if he is a real Conservative, hasn't got the stomach for a fight.

Rubio, West, Christie (if he's your type), or Walker only have a year in grade and have sense enough to know they can't win.

So, I guess we're seeing the same 7 million who stayed home rather than soil their patties voting for McCain. Well, as far as I'm concerned, they're the ones to blame for Barry.

And they can't wait to be the ones to blame for Barry II. But they're crazy if they think anybody's going to trust them next time around.

What's new, they always blame the conservative base. It is never the GOPs fault.

BTW, if you are from Romney Central you know they did not vote for McCain in 2008 (and they are proud of it) because they were waiting for their messiah to run in 2012.

Christie is not a conservative.

Rubio, Walker and West may be guys to look at in 2016 when the presidency will almost assuredly fall to a Republican. I am really keen on Rubio. Don't forget about Paul Ryan, either.

My big concern is that a McCain or Romney RINO (Christie, perhaps?) will start angling for the nomination right after B.O. gets elected next January and will be the front-runner once again. We desperately need to start a campaign right after the 2014 midterms, "Not a moderate this time."

Ricky,

Romney supporters did not vote for McCain? That is an interesting assertion. I'm sure you have the information to back that up. Please provide it.

Hey, I have plenty of concerns about Romney and would enter the voting booth with fingers crossed hoping it would work out OK, but Perry was wrong because of Gardasil and immigration, Bachmann was no good because she seemed like a placeholder, Herman had nothing after 9-9-9, and Newt sat on the sofa with Pelosi.

Nobody even thought about Santorum because he'd been a big spender and couldn't talk about anything but abortion.

So who's the Great White (or Black) Conservative Hope?

I liked Perry and Herman and could live with Newt, if he could get elected. There's three, four if Bachmann could have stopped talking about her 900 kids and said what she was going to do.

Five, because I figured Romney was the default nominee unless somebody better could be found and knock him off (figuratively).

Last time out, I was a Rudy guy because he seemed right on the big things and I was prepared to swallow my misgivings on the other stuff because so much was at stake.

Too many people on the 'Net were only for their guy (or girl) and all too willing to slime anybody who stood in their way. My way or No Way.

Which leads us to where we are now.

We can't wait for 2016, Not sure there will be a United States, or one worth having, after 4 more years of this gangster government. Hopefully, I'll be living in Alaska Free State or somewhere more pleasant.

Dan- Does the L.D.S. have enough balls to fund a billion dollar campaign, and get beat?

sicko...! Bad, sicko...!!!

Why not ask if the Catholics can afford a billion $$$ campaign...???

Look ASHAMED...!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u24nH03NccI

Most definitely worth watching.

"The Vote Pump"

Kevin M is absolutely right. There may be no 2016.

I've heard some say, "Just let them turn it into the Weimar Republic".

That's a strategy with a lot of pitfalls.

Cannibals in GOP establishment employ tactics of the Left(From Sarah Palin Facebook)

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150516734848435

Dan's article once again explains why his friends nicknamed him "Sunshine."

ljm, I have been reading Romney Central for years.

We have witnessed something very disturbing this week. The Republican establishment which fought Ronald Reagan in the 1970s and which continues to fight the grassroots Tea Party movement today has adopted the tactics of the left in using the media and the politics of personal destruction to attack an opponent….

I am sadly too familiar with these tactics because they were used against the GOP ticket in 2008….

But this week a few handpicked and selectively edited comments which Newt made during his 40-year career were used to claim that Newt was somehow anti-Reagan and isn’t conservative enough to go against the accepted moderate in the primary race. (I know, it makes no sense, and the GOP establishment hopes you won’t stop and think about this nonsense. Mark Levin and others have shown the ridiculousness of this.) To add insult to injury, this “anti-Reagan” claim was made by a candidate who admitted to not even supporting or voting for Reagan. He actually was against the Reagan movement, donated to liberal candidates, and said he didn’t want to go back to the Reagan days. You can’t change history….

What we saw with this ridiculous opposition dump on Newt was nothing short of Stalin-esque re-writing of history. It was Alinsky tactics at their worst.
--Sarah Palin


Yep.

"That's a strategy with a lot of pitfalls."

True, dat, formwiz.

Millions of dead people being foremost.

"Newt is an imperfect vessel for Tea Party support, but in South Carolina the Tea Party chose to get behind him instead of the old guard’s choice.

In response, the GOP establishment voices denounced South Carolinian voters with the same vitriol we usually see from the left when they spew hatred at everyday Americans “bitterly clinging” to their faith and their Second Amendment rights.

The Tea Party was once again told to sit down and shut up and listen to the “wisdom” of their betters. We were reminded of the litany of Tea Party endorsed candidates in 2010 that didn’t win. Well, here’s a little newsflash to the establishment: without the Tea Party there would have been no historic 2010 victory at all."
Sarah Palin

rags- You think the $200,000.00 nonreligious romney base is going to fund this? Ha The mormans are going to have to pony up to get that plug across the finish line.

Silly sicko. Just silly. Romney has a LOT of cash. If he takes Florida, he'll have a LOT more.

The LDS chruch does not finance candidates, any more than would the Catholic church.

Does he have a billion? It will take all of that to win.

1. dunno

2. who says?

The Catholic church has influence on who gets money to campaign.

94% of all elections won go to the big spender.

"Hey, I have plenty of concerns about Romney and would enter the voting booth with fingers crossed hoping it would work out OK, but Perry was wrong because of Gardasil and immigration, Bachmann was no good because she seemed like a placeholder, Herman had nothing after 9-9-9, and Newt sat on the sofa with Pelosi."

Wait, so you have concerns about Romneycare and Amnesty, but Gardasil with the opt out and TX Dream act with strong border control are simply "wrong"?

Perfect example of the perfect being the enemy of the good. Perfect example.

And don't forget Hussein's secret plutocrat weapon: Warren Buffett. He's been grooming him for more than a year to serve as the "good patriotic billionaire," outraged and indiginant at the shallowness, selfishness, hypocrisy and sheer lack of gratitude of this puny consultant/heir/faux investor, Williard Mitt Romney. Why, every red-blooded flag-waving American businessman shd be on his knees thanking God we've got a mature, visionary leader like Hussein to steer our ship over stormy seas...

You see where they're going to go with this? And what's Mitt gonna do, say Buffett doesn't really understand business? Or that he's pro-commie? (Oh, BTW, Bill Gates is also aboard the Obama train...Will Mitt say Gates doesn't understand American biz?)

If Mitt is the nominee (and I just voted for Newt in our early voting), he'd better get his head out of his @ss and his switchblade out of his pocket. And these pathetic ol' broken-down RINOS running around plugging holes in the SS Romney (cripes, do you people realize Bob Dole has lost nationwide in four (4) separate elections? Did Newt make him lose the 1st 3, too?) better get off their golf-carts to drag Mitt's mincing carcasse over the finish line. Cause I ain't.

This article seems to corroborate what Dan wrote above:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/romneys-negative-ratings-soaring-among-independents/2012/01/27/gIQAeVB1VQ_blog.html

Romney’s negative ratings soaring among independents
By Greg Sargent

..."[I]n the new [Jan. 2012] poll, Romney was rated somewhat or very negatively by 42 percent of independents — 20 points higher than two months ago.

Also: In November, Romney was beating Obama 47-34 among those voters. Now the numbers are upside down: Obama is beating Romney 44-36.

(A recent Post/ABC News poll also found Romney’s negative rating among independent had jumped to 51 percent.)

Pollster Peter Hart, a Democrat, tells me Romney’s multiple gaffes and revelations about his taxes and Bain background have led independents to start making a choice between Romney and Obama, rather than merely looking at Romney as a generic opponent of the President.

“Romney’s lack of connection with average people and Obama’s improving numbers on the economy account for the turnaround with independents,” Hart said.

“It’s not as though they have said Bain has disqualified him or that he can’t be trusted because of his taxes — but this has created a gulf between him and the average voter,” Hart said. “Bain and the taxes just reinforce the sense that this person is in a different world. If you’re an independent voter not driven by partisanship, you read all the other tea leaves to decide who is going to fight your fight.”

“When he was only the opponent of Obama, he was getting the independent vote as the alternative,” Hart says. “Now they see him in full relief, and they’re saying, `This isn’t my guy.’"

By Greg Sargent | 03:36 PM ET, 01/27/2012

In California Meg Whitman outspent Jerry Brow. Meg ran as a moderate conservative businesswoman. She spent $140 million, more than $110 million was her own personal money. My conclusion is that Mitt will lose against Obama and has the possibility of dying broke.

Dustin misunderstood my comment.

When I mentioned what was wrong with the various Conservative, I was referring to the complaints of various bloggers and pundits plumping for their guy (or girl) to the exclusion of everybody else.

As I said above, I liked Perry and Herman and could live with Newt or Bachmann.

You hit the nail on the head about going for the House and Senate. Keep beating that drum. I wouldn't walk across the street to vote for Romney, but I'd probably walk a mile to vote for an actual Republican (not the ilk of Hatch, Brown, or Lugar) running for Congress.

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