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Both Mitt and Newt have indulged in saying stuff that what just plain stupid.

Newt should know better.

The only thing ANY GOP candidate should say REMOTELY touching the Octopi "movement" is that it is Collectivist in its origins, planning, leadership (oh, yeah, they have leaders), and support.

Newt needs to defend himself, and judging by what I've seen he's fully capable.

On the other hand, articles like the one linked show a desperation among those whose noses are firmly entrenched in establishment butts. It's 3rd grade quality premise and logic, and I apologize in advance to any 3rd graders who may be offended.

A little prognostication- can't you see Palin challenging a failed President Romney in 2016?

Bill C
her own party would never allow that to happen, which I suspect is also why she decided not to run this year. I don't know that for a fact mind you, it's simply my suspicion. The fix has been in for the "it's his turn" candidate from the start.

"real and tangible association" Give - me - a - break.

Anyone who knows anything about Gingrich's paternal ancestry would be daft to try to make such a correlation.

Bob Dole is the latest to come out against Newt as the nominee.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/01/newt-gingrich-bob-dole-mitt-romney-/1

Today Mark Shields offered this apocryphal Washington exchange between a perplexed Gingrich and Dole. "Why do people take such an instant dislike to me?" asked a perplexed Gingrich, to whom Dole bluntly explained: "Because it saves them time."

That Boob Dole endorsement is SOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo powerful...!!!

(Kiss Of Death!)

Bob Dole, you will remember from George Stephanoupolos’s memoir of his time in Clinton’s White House, totally cut the legs out from under Newt Gingrich and House Republicans during the government shut down. According to the Democrats, they were within twenty-four hours of caving to the House Republicans’ demands, but Bob Dole surprised them all by caving first.
--Erickson


Heh. The highly coveted Boob Dole endorsement. The face of Viagra!

It's kind of sad to hear people so willing to trash a patriot who has carried the scars of his service in WW2 for the remainder of his life for a low life three timing scum bag like Newt.

"In April 1945, while engaged in combat near Castel d'Aiano in the Apennine mountains southwest of Bologna, Italy, Dole was hit by German machine gun fire in his upper right back and his right arm was also badly injured. As Lee Sandlin describes, when fellow soldiers saw the extent of his injuries all they thought they could do was to "give him the largest dose of morphine they dared and write an 'M' for 'morphine' on his forehead in his own blood, so that nobody else who found him would give him a second, fatal dose."[8] Dole had to wait nine hours on the battlefield before being taken to the 15th Evacuation Hospital, where he began a recovery that would take until 1948 at Percy Jones Army Hospital in Battle Creek, Michigan (where Dole met future fellow politicians Daniel Inouye and Philip Hart). His right arm was paralyzed; Dole often carried a pen in his right hand to signal that he could not shake hands with that arm."

Shame on you.

Romney is also by any measure a prototypical choir boy. Maybe he doesn't go to your church, maybe you think his religion is heresy, but he is an infinitely better man than Gingrich.

You don't have to like Romney, you don't have to vote for him. You can argue against his policies and question his record, but listen to yourselves for a minute guys. Gingrich? Really? He has been at least as wishy washy as Romney if not more. So you like the way he debates. Is that really the qualification for president? He is the least presidential of all the candidates left in the primary. He lacks character, he lacks conviction or core. He wants to be president and listen to himself talk more than he gives a damn about any of you,this country, conservatism or the GOP. Do you really think he is a loyal conservative? ask his ex wife.... er wives.

If you can't hold your nose and vote for Romney who would be infinitely better than Obama then vote for Santorum, the man who actually lives what you claim to be your convictions. Yes he has his problems too, but between Santorum and Gingrich its a no brainer. One is a conviction conservative who has lived out his proclaimed family values when they have been tested. the other is a hypocrite who left two wives for younger women when they became chronically ill, acts like a petulant child every time someone asks him a serious question and who knowingly and willingly uses those Alinsky tactics and language of the left you claim to hate so much whenever they suit him.

I can completely understand a principled vote for Santorum or even Ron Paul. It would be a losing cause but at least it would be honorable. How can you vote or advocate on principal for a man who has shown time and again that he has neither honor or principals?

We are supposed to be different guys. Remember? It's not ok for our candidate to be a scum bag just because we agree with his politics, or we think it would be really fun to watch him "knock out" Obama.

If Obama gets re-elected, Dan and several of the commenters here will be the reason. We will all be begging for Romney. Yeah yeah I know you won't; you will be marching in the streets or some other bullshit puffery. Maybe you can move to the moon and start your own country with Gingrich as the head moon man.

Grow up. Be men. Deal with reality and make the hard choice.

The previous poster wrote: "Grow up. Be men. Deal with reality and make the hard choice."

I have, which is why I don't want Romney. Romney's record is that of a passionate Liberal who instantly became a moderate so he could run for POTUS. Romney is a candidate in the mold of Dukakis and Kerry: strong Massachusetts Liberals pretending to be moderates in order to win a presidential election. Romney has to pretend even more because he's running in the Republican primaries. It amazes me how so many voters seem to ignore the fact that Romney as a moderate isn't believable.

Newt has many flaws, which you've pointed out. He also has a record of fighting for conservative causes in the 80's and 90's, which is way more than Romnney has. While Romney was calling himself an "independent progressive" and saying he didn't want Reagan-Bush policies, Newt was fighting the good fight in Congress. After the Republicans stopped supporting Newt, Newt started drifting and accommodating Democratic priorities and policies. Now he's beginning to fight back, and he's sounding and acting more like the old Newt.

What I believe the American public want is "a choice, not an echo." Romney is Obama's echo, and that's how I believe he'll govern. Newt will fight. He may stumble or go in the wrong direction sometimes. We'll have to try and keep him on the straight and narrow. But Newt is all we've got.

One more thing, with all due respect to Bob Dole's heroic war record, he's not a very good politician. He's better than John McCain, who sometimes delights in kicking the Republican base. But Bob Dole has the same attitude problem that many Republican politicians have: Let's get along with the Democrats, only do things on a smaller scale. Although Bob Dole's endorsement might help Romney with older Florida Republicans, to me it's the Kiss of Death.

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