Figures Allah Couldn't Resist

I figured the minute Allah heard the rumor that Castle might have a boyfriend he'd be all over him. But then no one expects much from Hot Air these days. It's 2010, time for moderates closeted within the conservative movement to be out, in the spirit of tolerance and such. At least Allah didn't go full-tilt Chuckie J, yet. The GOP still needs some NE moderates with a fear of Muslims sneaking into their bedroom at night. HA is more relevant to the establishment GOP, than it is to the conservative movement, anyway.

The case for voting for the RINO in the Delaware primary; Update: O’Donnell won’t rule out third-party run

As for Ace, I think he made the wrong call and told him so. But I know he at least gave it some thought. As I've said in an email to a few, if someone has issues with O'Donnell, I don't think they should support her. But, helping Castle run her down is stupid, when one could just as easily have posted to help Angle, or Miller, or Rubio.

Also, as regards Ace, I just saw this on McConnell. 

It's no sure thing, despite him brave-facing it:

I think it is a sure thing, given DeMint signing off on him some time back. It isn't news that he has the votes, it was first announced in May. Maybe some only committed for a first ballot. We'll see. But Ace says he's okay with McConnell.

“My goal is to make him majority leader — if not by 2010, then by 2012,” DeMint said of McConnell. “It’s not between Mitch and I; it had a lot to do with other things that were happening at Rand’s request as well as Sen. [Jim] Bunning’s encouragement.”

Alright, this is the other bit of news from McConnell, today. He wants to work with Obama - yeah, McCain, Graham, Snowe, Collins and whomever else, too, I'd bet. So, some conservative, and alleged conservative bloggers are helping Castle and willing to embrace McConnell. But just as likely, they'll be wanting to scream and shout because the GOP is still giving them the same old, same old. I can't see any intellectual consistency in it beyond, well, it seemed like a good idea at the time. I'm not looking to pick a fight with Ace. We're friends. As for Allah, everyone already knows I don't give a damn about him.

It's Ace's position that baffles me. And I'm not questioning his integrity. But if we keep accepting, or advocating for a path towards a more moderate GOP, how is it that we don't end up with precisely that - the very thing that supposedly has pissed us off for so long?

I'd rather hammer Castle and support, or just leave O'Donnell alone because it's more intellectually consistent and in line with my principles. I'm having a hard time understanding Ace's logic if he truly wants a conservative revival, because McConnell and Castle are not going to get us there.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell had his first one-on-one meeting with President Obama a few weeks ago, shortly before Congress broke for its summer recess. But in the coming months, with Republicans likely to pick up significant political ground in this fall’s elections, McConnell is anticipating many more meetings like it. “I think I’ll be seeing a lot more of him in the future,” McConnell, R-Ky., said today on ABC/Washington Post’s “Top Line.” “And I think if we have a larger number of Republicans, it will hopefully move him to the political center, which is the way he ran in ’08, but not the way he’s governed since then. And hopefully, if he moves to the center or the right of center, we can to do business.”

Comments

[Ran / Si Vis Pacem]

"advocating for a path towards a more moderate GOP"

...with respect Dan, lose the "moderate" adjective for GOP. Its a trap laid long ago by Carroll Quigley and liberal-statists in the media. There are libertarian Republicans, conservative Republicans, liberal-statist Republicans, confused Republicans.

"Moderate" implies that Republicans with the ideological b@lls to be libertarians or conservatives are "extreme." It is a diversion, a strategic lie.

http://ifyouseekpeace.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/republican-diagnosis-dyslexia-politica-leads-inevitably-to-electile-dysfunction-or-why-rush-limbaugh-is-right/

Cheers.

[newrouter]

what don't these gop pinheads understand about the phrase "we won"-baracky

[bishop]

That's why McConnell's leadership group has been picked off one by one, kind of like the characters in "Predator"

[rrpjr]

McConnell wants to work with Obama? What a splendid bipartisan fellow! Clearly a man to watch!

McConnell might as well wear a powdered wig and carry a snuff box. I'm done with him, and all of the rest.

Now, how does he feel about Palin? Thought so.

No mas.

Conservatives can be such pussies. No better example than this "support Castle" crap. Mark Levin got it right today. You support conservatives, not RINOs, and you don't collude with the Left at picking at conservatives.

[Pasadena Phil]

I have no problem with O'Donnell running 3rd party. The GOP establishment is doing everything they can to keep conservatives out including cheating on behalf of the incumbents (Murkowski e.g. who has not yet endorsed Joe Miller and may not). If the GOP insists on offering Democrat candidates, the conservative candidate and conservative voters have no reason to vote Republican. My default vote is 3rd party these days unless the GOP offers a non-Democrat.

It's the only way to discipline the GOP. THEY need conservatives if for no other reason than to establish that they are not Democrats. WE don't need two Democratic parties.

[Jerry Wilson of Goldfish and Clowns]

I like Ace, but he is flat-out wrong about both Castle and O'Donnell. Figures Allahpundit would hate her guts, given that he can't handle so much as the idea of a strong woman.

[prasanna]

We cant guess the conversation between obama and the republican Leader Mitch McConnell. Whats the business between those? k wat may b it is we guess for good

[Mark G.]

I question Demints sanity if he wants B. McConnell to be Majority Leader. Maybe the less experienced souls would be a better choice than the established g.o.p. elitist pukes. I am tired of being told what will be good for my family by out of touch republicans. Vote these snobs out of office. All lawyers should be voted out.

[Gary Ogletree]

The Tea Party is the center. Time for the Beltway GOP to wake up or go away. Go away is what I would prefer. They need to point out every day that the Democrats are the extremists. They would like to make "socialist" the new N word, only socialists can use it. Kinda like "jihad." The Tea Party gave the Republicans a spine. They see to be losing it the closer they come to winning the election. What could go wrong?

[Brent N]

I can see the GOP's slogan now:
"Take Back America" -- McCain-Castle 2012
Blue Dog Republicans deserve the same electoral fate as the Blue Dog Democrats

[gary gulrud]

Although I remember a rare occasion finding Ace's analysis brilliant he is almost always an imbecile, a savant, dain bramaged. Castle is a benign tumor in what should be after 2012 a cloture-ensuring majority.

I trust he will be an impediment to any Tea Party agenda reducing the size and scope of Federal government.

Castle will be harder to turn out, if living, than Coons, and no help on anything important.

[syn]

"But if we keep accepting, or advocating for a path towards a more moderate GOP, how is it that we don't end up with precisely that - the very thing that supposedly has pissed us off for so long?"

Where would Ace and Allah be if they had no place to display their righteous superiority?

My only question to these Moderates, who only care about saving their own personal fatted wallets, of what value is winning in the short term when you'll lose everything in the long-term?

Ace and Allah believe they can forever party on their pron without ever having to fork over their own money to pay for their self-pleasure.

Unfortunately, pimps do not work that way, sooner or later they be at ace's and Allah door to demand those fatted wallets.

[Ric Locke]

Brent, to preserve the analogy it should be "Red Dog Republicans".

Ace's point is valid if you accept the premise: Politics is the art of the possible, and gradualism that moves in the right direction, however slightly, beats an all-out effort that fails and moves the ball the other way.

But there are two objectives here. Displacing Democrats is the prime, of course, but almost as important, it's necessary to scare the s*t out of the Beltway Republican establishment, who have perfected the art of rolling over and playing dead for Democrats in order to preserve their perks and privileges and to try to win an occasional "good dog!" from the Washington press corps. The way to do that is threaten them with loss in primaries, even to candidates perceived as unable to win the general. Castle is an ideal target for that tactic, for many reasons. Republicans supporting O'Donnell are unlikely to vote for the Democrat in the general, but in the interim they want Castle to feel the icy winds winds on the back of his neck if he continues facing the wrong way.

Regards,
Ric

[leilani]

Truly excellent post, Ric Locke. I've tried to make that point elsewhere, but I wasn't able to do it anywhere near as well as you just did.

Truthfully, if I were in DE and voting in this particular primary, I'm not sure I could vote for O'Donnell because her personal history of questionable finances contradicts a big part of the whole Tea Party project for me. I can't support sending someone to DC to fight against fiscal irresponsibility, the misuse of campaign funds for personal benefit, & reckless spending who hasn't gotten her own act together in that regard. I just can't, but that's just me.

Still, I wholeheartedly agree with you in general on the value of voting one's ideological conscience in the primary & pulling the lever even for the more marginal candidate with no hope of winning in a liberal state - in the primary. It forces the more electable eventual nominee to at least try to forge some consensus with the minority viewpoint in order to have a hope of defeating the dem which in turn makes that candidate beholden in at least some way to that constituency once he or she is elected.

That is indeed exactly how people who are in the minority exercise power. After all, if we only vote strategically, how are these pols going to be able to judge the strength & depth of conservatism among the voters?

But I'd much rather Republican voters be well-versed on every candidate's dirty laundry so that they can make their own decisions before they pull that primary lever with their eyes wide open & focused on the midterm election prize. The idea that she should be shielded from scrutiny is nuts. Delaware conservatives have the right to know exactly how the Dems & the press are going to crucify this woman if, against all odds, she gets the nod so that they can make their own strategic judgements for the long term benefit of the conservative cause BEFORE they go into that primary voting booth.

I'm reading some conservatives online who're now threatening to throw their power away and even go so far as to vote for the Dem in the midterm election if O'Donnell loses simply because her dirty laundry is getting an airing at all. That's juvenile & self-defeating and is indefensible for anybody purporting to be truly conservative.