Sick Health Care Reform and The Death Of The Democrats

In for a penny, in for a pound, I always say. What more fitting way to greet Democrats sick health care reform proposal than with the eliminationist rhetoric it and the Democrats deserve. If you had to choose between the finest health care system in the world, even with all its faults, and the Democrats poised to force socialized medicine on us, which one would you eliminate? I know which one I'd sooner see die, ... figuratively speaking, of course!

If this debate had actually been about health care, we could have worked together to get a grip on costs, make quality care more accessible, address exclusions for preexisting conditions and realign the incentives of insurance companies with those of patients and doctors. Yet this process -- including its embarrassing conclusion -- demonstrates that the debate has never been about health-care policy but, instead, paternalistic ideology.

Should the Democrats' health-care train wreck make it to the president's desk, it will be a pyrrhic victory, and its devastating consequences will take their toll on our health-care system, our budget and our economy.

Comments

[astonerii]

They sure like getting their mileage out of their 72 hour window. They put it up when everyone is sleeping, so that they lose the very first and very last hours of it.

[Keith]

Keep drinking the kool-aid dude and be prepared to be mowed over!

[Ioana]

I definitely agree with all that it's been writtine in this article, though I don't live in the USA. Well, it's true that the health care system has many flaws in other countries too

[Brian in MA]

I would rather have freedom and no health care than health care and no freedom.

[Jimbo]

No, the HCR will lower our deficit and provide coverage to millions who now have none. That means we have a healthier population who can go to work, pay taxes, and raise their children. Their children will be able to devote their lives to bettering the American cause - cause they are not sickly and can stay in school. It is very simple if you care about your neighbors. If you don't care about your neighbors, then the problem is between you and your soul. We spend $101 million PER DAY in our lost causes of Iraq and Afghanistan. Wouldn't it be lovely to re-direct some of that money to our use, instead of the cavers in the Middle East? We have given them 8+ years to get their act together. Let's cut our losses and get our country back in black. America first, neocons last.

[Elmo]

Let's cut our losses and get our country back in black. America first, neocons last.

Posted by: Jimbo | Monday, March 15, 2010 at 12:58 PM

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Comrades, we must kill whitey ... and duh fookin Joo's too (while whir attit). Free Escalades (with spinners) for everyone. All praise Buraq the Magic Pony!

[North Dallas Thirty]

"We spend $101 million PER DAY in our lost causes of Iraq and Afghanistan."

That works out to approximately $36.87 billion dollars annually.

In contrast, government-controlled health care as pushed by Jimbo and his ilk annually diverts $60 billion dollars -- nearly twice that -- to criminals.

http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/01/11/2170025.aspx

Jimbo and his leftist Obama Party have claimed that Medicare and Medicaid have only a 2 - 3% administration cost. That is impossible when 10% of their annual payments are fraudulent. What it shows is that Obama Party hypocrites like Jimbo openly support and endorse Medicare and Medicaid fraud.

[buckjohnson]

What proof is that any passage if HC wil lbe devasting? How about thinking how devasting it is to those w/o HC. More speculation without any proof. It is why there is a majority, 59-41 in the Senate, why Obama won so handlily, and why teabaggers think Palin is a legit person. The American people see through the teabaggers and their racist rant. I would have had more respect for them if they would have raised their ire during Bush's presidency.

[Gamecard]

The way I see it the ones who think the current health care now works great are the ones who can afford it. Let’s face it our health care not perfect I has a lot of holes in it I you don’t have the money you get the best care and if you don’t well face it your just out of luck. The problem is our health care is treated like a business rather then what it should be used for and that’s to take care of the people. If there is a better way for it other than was is being push right now please tell me I want to know.

[North Dallas Thirty]

And of course, we have the two moochers show up.

If you really are so concerned about the people without health insurance, reach into your own pockets and pay for theirs. Your Obama Party is full of billionaires like George Soros and Warren Buffet, and multimillionaires like Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, all the Kennedys, John Kerry, and so forth; certainly they can spare enough money, rather than putting additional burdens on actual working families.

What's that? Oh, that's right; that would require THEM to pay for things, instead of forcing other people to do it for them. And of course, as good puppets for the Obama Party, you two will get free health insurance and not have to pay a dime for it, right?

[FenelonSpoke]

Anyone who automatically brings out the race card in respect to the Tea Party Movement automatically loses credibility, and the fact that you question whether Palin is a "legit person" (What the heck does that mean anyway? How is someone not a "legit" person??. Does that mean they are not a person? That they have to legitimate right to give their opinion?) increases your lack of credibility, Buck. As far as whether the Tea Party Movement is racist, I direct your attention to the website of Lloyd Marcus, a proud American who happens to be Black and who says the racism he has gotten since his involvement with the Tea Partiers is actually from liberals. I also direct your attention to the website of Kevin Jackson at "The Black Sphere". He is pretty clear about the racism in the Democratic Party. Finally check out Legal Insurrection, which has a link to a pictures from the Coffee Party Movement gatherings. Most of the few people who showed up were white males, but I'm not suggesting they are racist.

Finally, who gave you the authority to speak for the what the "American people" see?

[Henry Massingale]

To help cover the sick and the poor is a FASC Concept that states that to build a Health Care Forum within our Government Institution is a Peoples right to do so and this is Protect Under the Constitution as a Human and Civil Right. So in plan words if the poor and the sick could only afford to pay $5.00 to $10.00 per month this would to bring a balance toward the broken tax system, to add up this number 32 million to 100 million sick and poor people x $5.00 per month. This will place back into the system $116 million $to 500 million dollars per month. The cause and effect of this will reduce the purposed Health Care Tax Forum, to bring about a reduced effect so not to a over  burden system. Take my faith in this and almost all the poor and sick would be happy to pay in and help rebuild the United States failed tax system. Also To bring about a balance of trust lost between the people and Officials.
 Under a Federal Health Care Group built by my friends and I. {You see the poor, as you see them}, as for them they see them self not poor, but of a different race of people and environment and have faith it that which was in the past that so many do not have a clue of what God and Country is all about.
  Will be up dated today  3/25/2010

Issue 1.

FASC tax and pay in Forum, A Concept to help the Poor and Sick.

FASC Concepts of a guideline of income and a fair payment for the poor to the rich.
  CLASS                                            INCOME                                                    MONTHLY PAYMENTS
 {A} formatt for people making up to $29000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to $40.00 per month
 {B}                                       up to $19000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to  $30.00 per month
 {C}                                       up to $12000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to  $20.00 per month
 {D}                                       from 0.00 income to $9000.00 per year /   cost up to 0.00 to $10.00 per month
                                                                             MIDDLE CLASS TO THE  POOR
 {A} {B} {C} {D} classification based on one person If married policy can be devided or stayed. These are concept numbers to open the mind..............
  Submitted by Marh Hidabrand,asked would it not be better to build on , instead of droping off of the {A}{B}{C}
 {E}                                       up to $49000.00  per year,EST of monthly cost up to     $50.00 per month
 {F}                                       up to $59000.00  per year,EST of monthly cost up to      $60.00 per month
 {G}                                       up to $69000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to       $70.00 per month
 {H}                                       up to $79000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to       $80.00 per month
 {I}                                        up to $89000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to       $90.00 per month
  To balance a payment plan to fit within the bills, within a home..........{J} {K} {L} {M}     exc......................
  Need to balance to stay around $200.00 for above income and below $300.00 for the rich ?
  The same incentives apply if husband and wife wish to pay separate.
   The same incentives apply for the poor, even if all they can pay is $3.95 per month. No one is cut out of the rebuilding of the inter structure of Health care and the USA.
  The money is a investment into our further and is to be tax free, just the money paid in.
 
 You may ask: what about Medicare ? {is it not possible to merge Medicare into this concept ?}
 With in this movement the {A} {B} {C} {D} will remove health care from a company so that  a company can see into the building of other projects and put people back to work.
  With the formatted goal of the use of this new concept, to form a more perfect Union within the design of the Health Care program offered, we submitted the up to 2 Trillion dollars per year. This will build a safety net / a buffer to maintain balance.
  The  billion dollars per year is at a high EST. based at $10.00 x 250 million people. As you can see the numbers above suggest a very high in pack of funds, we can not project a high in pack because dollars are not a constant.
at 100 000 000 million people x 10= $1 000 000 000   billion low ball figures
1 billion x 4 weeks = $4 billion dollars
4 billion x 12 months = $48 billion dollars
so at 100 000 00 the numbers would have to increase to $40.00/per month x $40.00
$40.00 x 48 000 000 000 = $1 220 000 000 000 per year at 100 000 000 people
In the US the progression is:
Hundred - 100
Thousand - 1,000
Million - 1,000,000
Billion - 1,000,000,000
Trillion - 1,000,000,000,000
Quadrillion - 1,000,000,000,000,000
 and the interfacing of the FASC Card  www.federalactsecuritycard.mysite.com
  We need to see into the inter structure of the Presidents concept,without this right we can not help,no matter how much we wish to. It would seem that if you do not play follow the leader on just one concept ,that the door is not really open.
  We offer the following concepts and we believe that it will be one that all can respect. 

FASC Concepts of a guideline of income and a fair payment for the poor to the rich.
This is a concept to build on.......a idea, a way to bring life to hope where there is none.
  CLASS                                            INCOME                                                    MONTHLY PAYMENTS
 {A} format for people making up to $29000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to $40.00 per month
 {B}                                       up to $19000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to  $30.00 per month
 {C}                                       up to $12000.00 per year, EST of monthly cost up to  $20.00 per month
 {D}                                       from 0.00 income to $9000.00 per year /   cost up to 0.00 to $10.00 per month
                                                                             MIDDLE CLASS TO THE  POOR
 {A} {B} {C} {D} classification based on one person If married policy can be divided or stayed. These are concept numbers to open the mind..............
  Submitted by Marh Hidabrand,asked would it not be better to build on , instead of dropping off of the {A}{B}{C}
 {E}                                       up to $49000.00  per year,EST of monthly cost up to     $50.00 per month
 {F}                                       up to $59000.00  per year,EST of monthly cost up to      $60.00 per month
 {G}                                       up to $69000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to       $70.00 per month
 {H}                                       up to $79000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to       $80.00 per month
 {I}                                        up to $89000.00 per year,EST of monthly cost up to       $90.00 per month
  To balance a payment plan to fit within the bills, within a home..........{J} {K} {L} {M}     exc......................
  Need to balance to stay around $200.00 for above income and below $300.00 for the rich ?
  The same incentives apply if husband and wife wish to pay separate.
   The same incentives apply for the poor, even if all they can pay is $3.95 per month. No one is cut out of the rebuilding of the inter structure of Health care and the USA.
  The money is a investment into our further and is to be tax free, just the money paid in.
 
 You may ask: what about Medicare ? {is it not possible to merge Medicare into this concept ?}
 With in this movement the {A} {B} {C} {D} will remove health care from a company so that  a company can see into the building of other projects and put people back to work.
  With the formatted goal of the use of this new concept, to form a more perfect Union within the design of the Health Care program offered, we submitted the up to 2 Trillion dollars per year. This will build a safety net / a buffer to maintain balance.
  The  billion dollars per year is at a high EST. based at $10.00 x 250 million people. As you can see the numbers above suggest a very high in pack of funds, we can not project a high in pack because dollars are not a constant.
at 100 000 000 million people x 10= $1 000 000 000   billion low ball figures
1 billion x 4 weeks = $4 billion dollars
4 billion x 12 months = $48 billion dollars
so at 100 000 00 the numbers would have to increase to $40.00/per month x $40.00
$40.00 x 48 000 000 000 = $1 220 000 000 000 per year at 100 000 000 people
In the US the progression is:
Hundred - 100
Thousand - 1,000
Million - 1,000,000
Billion - 1,000,000,000
Trillion - 1,000,000,000,000
Quadrillion - 1,000,000,000,000,000
 and the interfacing of the FASC Card  www.fascmovement.mysite.com
  We need to see into the inter structure of the Presidents concept,without this right we can not help,no matter how much we wish to. It would seem that if you do not play follow the leader on just one concept ,that the door is not really open.
  We offer the following concepts and we believe that it will be one that all can respect.
  A FASC Concept, Children should be covered by moms or dads coverage at no extra cost. I once heard that their was a saying that is within the Christian world, it is in the best of man that through a concept of God, that He smiles on those who help the poor. Now this is your faith, as shared with people. 
 

[Henry Massingale]

Is There A Constitutional Infringement of a Moral Value for Health Care vs. The People
Part 1: 3/22/2010: { recapped for short input}
I had to wait for this Bill to be passed in order to show the Republican Party, GOP and FRC Action that it is the voice of the people that guides the destiny of this Country. I guess you could say I needed them to get out of the way so that the last Comic Standing will be FASC Concepts and we do not need the peoples money to assist the needs of the Peoples Rights.
As predicted , the first stages of the Health Care Bill was passed. Why, you ask ? It is because people wish to be seen for their in put of a view and not unite. What is lost is respect with in a concept of { Freedom Of Choice } to be a part of this system or not, with in this Health Care Force Pay Matrix.
What is offered by FASC Concepts is the Freedom Of Choice, because we feel it is unconstitutional to force pay into the failures of Health Care Insurance Companies and then Tax that money. As you can see our elected officials are paying little attention to the public. As I reach out to my computer and I knock , knock, knock on the screen, and I say is there any body out there?
You will not find any lies posted that is not clarified.....
You can find the details on p23. At the link site for www.thebluepill.mysite.com on page 100 at the main site.
FASC Concepts in and for Pay it Forward covers the web see why we have become the Largest web site in the United States, join us in a trickle effect on p23 the blue pill link, ?
on google , yahoo, and aol www.fascmovement.mysite.com