Webb Scolds Obama On Health Care, Terror Trials

An exclusive via Danny Glover. Runaway, runaway, Webb. Good luck with that.

MCLEAN, Va. — Sen. Jim Webb said here Thursday that the Obama administration “got off to a very bad start” in 2009 by advocating sweeping changes to the nation’s health-care system during an economic crisis but not taking a hands-on leadership role in crafting a plan.

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[mark l.]

given the events of the past week, it is painfully obvious that dennis blair, the director of national intelligence is at best a figurehead.

the testimony where the DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE explained that he was not consulted in the decision to read the panty bomber his rights and provide a lawyer was humiliating.

not to be outdone, we now have information that the director of the fbi was telling senators not to discuss a briefing which detailed panty bomber's newfound dialogue, while the wh sought to brief their party members so they could use the information to defend their previous mishandling.

In one week, we find that the dni and the director of the fbi are not part of the intelligence decision making apparatus. They aren't even consulted.

it has become pretty clear now that our handling of terrorism is now completely in the hands of rahm emmanuel and eric holder. If dems were shaken by the vehement rxn of the public to national healthcare, they will be stunned upon the next successful terrorist attack. It will destroy the democratic party, for the next 30 years.

[wpe]

"it has become pretty clear now that our handling of terrorism is now completely in the hands of rahm emmanuel and eric holder."

Really?

"An unofficial analysis of U.S. airstrikes in Pakistan through September 2009 by the reputable website LongWarJournal, based on the publicly available data, indicates that 404 Taliban/al Qaeda were killed by Predator strikes in 2009, with 43 civilians killed.

In 2008, Predators killed 286 Taliban/al AQaeda, with 31 civilian killed. In 2007, 73 Taliban/al Qaeda were killed."

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"Although the Pakistani Taliban has shown resilience in the past, Pakistani analysts said it would be difficult for the group to quickly recover from the loss of Hakimullah Mehsud, who has reportedly died in a village in northwest Pakistan of burns and injuries he suffered during a U.S. drone missile attack in mid-January.

The group lost its original leader, Baitullah Mehsud, to a drone strike in August. In recent months, it has been driven out of its major sanctuary and become isolated from elders of the Mehsud tribe, who are negotiating with the government to hand over surviving Taliban commanders."

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[NVA Patriot]

Jim Webb is toast - he barely won in 2006 and only did so with help from highly Democratic Arlington & Alexandria and their notorious clean ACORN supported voting practices.

He now points to his votes on conservative amendments but in the end, he was a good sock puppet and voted as he was told by the Democratic Leadership.

VA Tea Partyiers will remove him as we systematically take over the Republican Party and remove any and all politicians who are incapable of reading, understanding, and implementing the 10th amendment.

[chris]

You underestimate Jim "Born Fighting" Webb.

I guess he woke up from a deep sleep. I have a feeling he decided to shut up and is now through taking crap.

He could go "I" or become the subject of a possible member of the "R" caucus if his more liberal team mates don't shape up. His big problem was "W" and his team more than the "R" party.

[mariner]

I don't care what Webb's problem with Rs was.

My problem with him is that he voted Dem on too many major resolutions. He carried Dem water, and I will help to wash him away in it.

[mark l.]

wpe-

there were two major decisions made in the past month revolving around panty bomber...

miranda rights for a terrorist and the declassification of the interogation that is ongoing.

the dni was not consulted for the first, and the fbi director was working from a completely different book than the wh seems to have had no knowledge of the declassification of material related to someone in his own custody.

if the dni and the fbi director aren't making policy decisions, who is?

[wpe]

Apparently whoever is telling them to kill Taliban / Al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan. Because that's where the REAL war on terrorism is fought.

All the said was we're getting info from the bomber. If that's what you call "declassification", your standards are pretty low.

Of course, according to Republicans, since eh has Miranda rights - just like Bush gave the Shoe Bomber - we shouldn't be getting anything from him.

Gee Mark, you aren't hoping for a successful attack while Dems are in office are you?

[Captain Joe]

Webb, like all vulnerable DemonRATS, is distancing himself from the O-bum and Rahm. Gotta think the Tea Party is finally scaring the begeebus out of the Dimwits now.

[mark l.]

"Gee Mark, you aren't hoping for a successful attack while Dems are in office are you?"

as it stands now, out only defense is aq's ineptness.
it would appear we are quickly closing the 'ineptness gap'.

"Apparently whoever is telling them to kill Taliban / Al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan. Because that's where the REAL war on terrorism is fought."

only problem is that the panty bomber is from yemen.

btw-how many troops are in afghanistan?
not like the press is anxious to say...

it's a number they won't report. I almost wish someone would simply ask obama the same question. I bet he has no idea.

[wpe]

Gee, if the terrorists are leaving Afghanistan and Pakistan for Yemen, must be a reason. Maybe Obama's killing too many of them.

Actually, we're killing more Al Qaeda / Taliban in Afghanistan / Pakistan than we did under Bush. Those are by real numbers, not your BS koolaid.

You should've been around to help out the Bushies with their geography. 9/11, 15 of those guys were from Saudi Arabia, most had trained in Pakistan or Afghanistan. 0, zero, zed, none, nil were from Iraq.

[mark l.]

"Gee, if the terrorists are leaving Afghanistan and Pakistan for Yemen, must be a reason."

"Gee Mark, you aren't hoping for a successful attack while Dems are in office are you?"

scroll up for bragging about drone bombing...

looks like someone found dick cheney's neocon pills, and took the whole bottle.
welcome to the club.

[mark l.]

93,780 in country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force

"45,780 as of December 22, 2009. Source ISAF Website.[21] Around 93,780 are currently deployed in Afghanistan: 45,780 under the command of NATO-ISAF as of December 2007 and the remaining 48,000 troops are under U.S. command to train the Afghan National Army and to hunt Taliban leaders and al-Qaeda members. There is also a sizeable civilian U.S. presence as part of the United States Army Corps of Engineers. In December 2009 President Obama announced an increase of 34,000 US troops from Spring 2010 onwards."

93,780+34,000=127,780.

please...tell me how swimmingly things are going.

love to hear you draw up the strategy without sounding like bush on iraq.

iraq had

[xerocky]

"0, zero, zed, none, nil were from Iraq."

Think about it this way, by liberating Iraq and ending food for oil, they've changed the oil market in a way that weakens both Iran and S.A.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126064193056889083.html

You don't think that Iraq becoming a free, prosperous democracy scares the daylights out of Iran? Have you noticed what's been going on there lately, not from the saber rattlers on top, but in the streets?

"The establishment of a free Iraq at the heart of the Middle East will be a watershed event in the global democratic revolution"

-W

You have to admit, it’s starting to look like Bush was correct.

[wpe]

There weren't any Al Qaeda in Iraq when we invaded. It was a Neocon adventure all the way. But pretty much everyone supported going into Afghanistan, since that's where Al Qaeda was.

Can you comprehend that difference?

So I guess you're saying we should get out of Afghanistan.

[xerocky]

"There weren't any Al Qaeda in Iraq when we invaded. It was a Neocon adventure all the way. But pretty much everyone supported going into Afghanistan, since that's where Al Qaeda was.

Can you comprehend that difference?

So I guess you're saying we should get out of Afghanistan. "

If you read the WSJ article that I provided, you'd realize that Iraq has a lot of potential now that the "neocon adventure" has taken place. Obviously this has upset Iran and S.A., and threatens them directly as observed by the street demonstrations in Iran that for some reason Obama simply won't bother supporting if it means that Bush may have done something correct.

""What's taking place within Iran is not about the United States or any other country. It's about the Iranian people and their aspirations for justice and a better life for themselves," Obama said. "We will continue to bear witness to the extraordinary events that are taking place there. And I'm confident that history will be on the side of those who seek justice.""

In other words, a)we aren't going to pledge any real support and b) it has nothing to do with Iraq/Bush.

I think that the key to Afghanistan would be to change the rules of engagement and then for the president to decide that "Victory" isn't a bad word. If that's what he thinks, then why is he killing so many people over there? I think it's kind of crazy to say that "Obama" is kicking ass over there when he spent how many months before spoke with his generals?

None of this was the point in the first place though, because the comments that you replied to were about the domestic scene, which I think it's fair to say that Holder and Co. are at the very least losing the public on. Because you have no answers for that you dredged up some dated crap about how we shouldn’t have gone to Iraq, and the "real war on terror", words that Obama doesn't even want you to utter by the way.

[mark l.]

"There weren't any Al Qaeda in Iraq when we invaded."

here's the problem:
libs are now advocating leaving Afghanistan, because there are very few AQ left there.

"But pretty much everyone supported going into Afghanistan, since that's where Al Qaeda was."
imagine there was a lot of AQ in afghanistan, in 2001.

do you still believe that to be a case, or can you accept that you are nation building?

[mark l.]

"You should've been around to help out the Bushies with their geography. 9/11, 15 of those guys were from Saudi Arabia, most had trained in Pakistan or Afghanistan. 0, zero, zed, none, nil were from Iraq."

let me brush you up on neocon lexicon...

taliban=afghanis sympathetic to aq.
aq=foreign fighters, from a leadership formed in afghanistan, 20 years ago, that used ag as a base, 5 years ago.

you are largely fighting the 'taliban', not al-qeuda, in afghnaistan.

enjoy your nation building.

[mark l.]

a little background on nation building...

per capita income....

iraq-3,300.
haiti-1,300.
afghanistan-800.

can you describe a victory in afghanistan?
i sure can't.