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Wow. Ironic?

At least it doesn't look in any way like an Islamic crescent...

Yeah,
Well,
That crescent and blaze look just a tad familiar as well...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Star_and_Crescent.svg

Why is it that everything this administration touches turns into a farce?

They have redone all of the websites and turned the .mil sites into White House clones and .gov sites. I find it very regulated and controlled.

The Obama Adminstration had to find a way to combat the Iranian Space Agency and their logo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Space_Agency

First thought on seeing this - crescents.

We read into things, therefore we are human?

I suspect visual references to both the Obama logo and the Islamic crescent and star are less political propaganda than fashion statements among trendy graphic designers. The Washington Times says the designer is logo specialist TMP Government. They seem to be legit if you can go by their online presence: http://bit.ly/bVPTep

The hysteria over the unfortunately named "Crescent of Embrace" design for the Flight 93 Memorial design comes to mind: http://bit.ly/3nwQth [Note early sign of Charles Johnson's eventual crash and burn at that link.]

"I suspect visual references to both the Obama logo and the Islamic crescent and star are less political propaganda than fashion statements among trendy graphic designers."

And the difference is?

xerocky: I like the way your mind works! Political propaganda, fashion statements, both are recognition signals among members of the tribe.

I'm shocked that I've yet to see the "O" symbol in tatoo form as of yet. Perhaps I just havn't been looking in the right places.

Perhaps a google search will help...

http://vetocorleone.com/2009/08/27/15-awful-obama-tattoos/

Of course.

The blue bevel blob reminded me of a belt - wrestler or superhero...
http://theelephantgraveyard.com/uploads/1265511072/gallery_53_5_35207.jpg

This is starting to get a bit creepy. Has any national leader ever had his own damn logo. I am waiting for the joyous day when that disgusting old Stars and Stripes is removed from the flagpole at the White House (that's not racist is it) and the banner of Dear Leader is hoisted in its place. All hail to our glorious future.

Whyinhell would Obama want to associate with the military-industrial blah blah anyway?

No, no, no - SURE It looks like Obama's logo, and the Iranian Space Agency's and contains a prominent crescent and star. Those are all conicidences.

The REAL message here is...DON'T PANIC!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_aAGTgvkdCV0/SYk1InXQZWI/AAAAAAAABOk/e9RrFSLpryM/s400/panic.jpg

And remember your towel.

Orion

Agree with the above. This absolutely looks like the offspring between between the Muslim star and crescent and the ObamIcon.

References to the SuperO may or may not be appropriate, but logo just seems confusing. I assume the dark blue crescent is supposed to represent the earth. What do the red and banner and starburst represent? I would think the red banner is the path of missile, presumably a defensive missile. If so, then the starburst must be the eventual impact point. Which is on the blue crescent. Which is earth.


Wow. I'm not even one of those "Obama is a muslim" people, and even I thought -first thing- that it looked like a muslim crescent. Wow.

Lol. The Military knows the way to Obama's heart (and purse) -- Kissing up and stroking his immense ego.

Holy crap! Because all we need is Islamic paranoiacs noticing that we're firing a missile straight into the Islamic crescent. If only the explosion produced a six-pointed star, they could really go to town.

(Not that I care about their widdle feelings, but I see no reason to spend our tax dollars giving them more to be paranoid about... unless it's the kind of thing they should be paranoid about, like staying in hotel rooms in Dubai.)

When Jimmie Carter was president, a number of military officers with James in their names started calling themselves Jimmie. The Air Force even created a new uniform item—the official Air Force cardigan sweater. For better or worse, the U.S. military is very good at following civilian leadership.

We have missile defense?
Who knew?

It's just an Islamic quarter moon and star with some red stuff in it. I guess now we have no more missile defense against them.

Flag Gazer - I just looked at the army.mil and marines.mil sites... what do you mean they've been turned into clones?

And yes, the logo is a bit weird, given the Big O seems to have to put himself in the center of everything.

However, graphically it does make sense -- if one ignores the Islamic fanaticism we are dealing with at present. In which case it's a bit tone deaf graphically. (Sort of like missing the other connections people make with that Hindu symbol.)

So yes ... crescent moon and stars is the first thing that hit me, too. Sorry designers....

"If so, then the starburst must be the eventual impact point. Which is on the blue crescent. Which is earth. "

good point, the Earth it should be noted also has a big hole in it. (?)
Why would Earth have a hole in it, outside of it needing to look like a big O?

We, as a nation, are squarely to blame for allowing Progressives to waste air and food...

If we ignore what is really important, we'll get worse and worse... And for some reason, the so-called "conservatives" we elect seem skittish about actually enforcing 18 USC Chapter 115...

The blue cresent isn't earth. The hole in the middle is earth. What you are seeing is the stylized track of a missle across the face of the globe, the starburst perhaps indicating the successful interception of a missle, or maybe the bright flame of the rocket. I dunno exactly. But the blue cresent is the sky.

It's funny to see everybody getting in a tizzy over this.

That new BMD logo looks like a hero's belt buckle for his space uniform in a bad 1980s science fiction thriller in which Bill Maher has a bit part before he hit the big time in Murder She Wrote. Nice. :)

Sorry, I'm a commercial graphics designer, and I've never had an urge to use an Islamic crescent. That is in no way related to a "swoosh".

Well, here's another way to look at it. The defensive missile, launched from the other side of the globe, is NUKING MECCA!!!!

Great, just another government blunder to feed Muslim conspiracy theories and propaganda

(look! The Zioamericans intend to send a missile and destroy Islam!)

"The hole in the middle is earth." I thought of that myself, but that doesn't make much sense either. This new logo can only be considered effective if the goal was to remind viewers of Obama.

The real question is why did they make a change. What I assume is the old logo is on the bottom of the page. Even though it is much smaller than the new logo, I can see that it shows the green and blue earth, the blackness of space and a missile trail leading to an explosion in space. That seems much more effective at capturing the mission of the agency.

The full circle-in-circle crescent is used by several jihadist groups:

Hamas
http://www.adl.org/terrorism/symbols/hamas2.asp

The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
http://www.pflp.ps/english/?q=print/1

MAS (The Muslim American Society, created by the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928)
http://www.mastampa.org/

Islamic Palestine Block, An-Najah Students Cell
http://www.adl.org/terrorism/symbols/islamic_palestine_block.asp

As with the Missile Defense Agency logo, the inner circle in all of these logos represents the earth. The crescent formed by the inner and outer circles represents Islam taking over the earth.

This Islamic triumphalism is also the depicted on the Hezbollah flag, which shows a more typical Islamic crescent (covering 2/3rds of a circle of arc) formed by 2/3rds of the outline of a globe:
http://www.adl.org/terrorism/symbols/hezbollah.asp

Surely someone noted, during the discussion of this Obama-ized MDA logo, that its circle-in-circle crescent shape is widely embraced by Islamic terrorists. Were concerns about this shared usage dismissed as bigotry, the way concerns about Nidal Hasan's militant Islamic diatribes were silenced by fear of being labeled a bigot (enabling the Fort Hood massacre); the way concerns about the giant Mecca-oriented crescent on the Flight 93 crash site have been dismissed as bigotry (allowing the construction of a terrorist memorial mosque to proceed on the grave of our murdered heroes)?

The difference in the Flight 93 case is that architect Paul Murdoch included in his Crescent of Embrace design endless proof intent in the form of elaborately repeated Mecca-orientations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVVKKoGRVFw

I am filing a FOIA request with the DOJ to find out if the issue of Islamic symbol shapes ever came up in discussions about the Missile Defense Agency logo. Will post further on my Error Theory blog:
http://errortheory.blogspot.com/

Correction about the terrorist flags: I should have said that the inner circle in TWO of the jihadist insignias depicts the earth being surrounded by an Islamic crescent. Those are the MAS and the An-Najah logos.
http://www.mastampa.org/
http://www.adl.org/terrorism/symbols/islamic_palestine_block.asp

The other two are different. The PFLP logo depicts Israel and the West Bank surrounded by an Islamic crescent (with Israel being wiped out by an arrow from the West Bank), while the Hamas logo does not directly depict territorial ambition. It is just a variation on the circle-in-circle Islamic flag geometry established by the Ottoman flag:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Turkey.svg

Actually, EVERY logo is starting to look like that this nowadays. It's just the style of the times.

"You'd think we had better things to do with our money than create new images for everything."

Reminds me of that wonderful "Let Them Eat Logos" graphic Tennyson Hayes came up with during a previous controversy the logo-mad Obama Administration found itself in with its dumb logo for its even dumber Recovery.org website:

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/letthemeatlogos.png

Take a deep breath people. I work at the MDA. The official MDA seal has not been changed or replaced. This is a different logo on the public MDA website which was developed approximately 3 years ago (I seem to remember that was before the last presidential election), in support of MDA recruiting efforts, and is not linked to any political entity. Go to the bottom of the page to see the MDA logo. If anything, Obama's ad people copied this one.

It's an Islamic Crescent... pretty ironic given the Obama administrations refusal to deploy missile defense against Iran and refusal to put into production successfully tested laser weapons.

You are right, DensityDuck; every logo IS starting to look like that nowadays. But it isn't the style of the times insomuch as it's a SIGN of the times.

If I were an optimist, I'd see this: the red ribbon is a US laser taking down the star/crescent - boom, zap, gone from planet earth in a heartbeat. I seem to recall seeing somewhere in internetland the other day that logo associated with a news article about the first time ever laser that shot down the missile. This happened at Pt. Mugu, CA/San Nicholas Island.

Maybe Obama, as the new boss of General Motors, is signaling an Oldsmobile revival.

That would be the Obsmobil.

by the way, just asking, but what was wrong with the old logo?

Oh, sure, you're all laughing, but I'm terrified. Went to a new restaurant the other day, and on the door of the women's restroom, there was a round, swirly disk with stars and moons and I don't know what all.

I hadn't given it a second thought at the time, but now I'm convinced I'd been lured into a Muslim den of something or other. It was a Chinese restaurant, but you just never know....

Shocking details: http://bit.ly/missile-defence-agency-angers-islam-opinions

methinks you have too much time on your hands. lay off the kool aid, it's liable to kill your last 2 brain cells.

Oh, Dan, a message to you and your equally nitwitted patron, InstaRube: Gaffney has now COMPLETELY RETRACTED his cuckoo-bananas post. Furthermore the contract to redesign the logo was awarded in 2007 and the design was completed in 2008. Which, of course makes this ALL SEN. OBAMA'S FAULT!!!!

http://biggovernment.com/fgaffney/2010/02/27/it-cant-be-true-more-on-that-missile-defense-agency-logo/

"The contract for a complete rebranding for MDA was let in 2007, during the Bush administration, although much of the work appears to have been done in 2008"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Fail.

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