Senate Rules Changes: Is The Revolution At Hand?

As an American citizen, I will be damned before I sit idly by and watch any portion of our elected legislative branches yield Congress's power and the rights of American citizens in domestic affairs to unelected bureaucrats, the names and backgrounds of whom we may never truly know, let alone vote for, or against directly. Not without reasonable oversight. And what these rule changes do is take away any reasonable oversight by the deliberative branches of government.

Ultimately, I believe this effectively bestows sole authority for important aspects of domestic policy unto the Executive Branch. Talk about an imperial presidency? Not only is it unconstitutional, it is effectively an ugly first step toward dictatorship.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Comments

[Snooper]

Yes. The time is at hand. Go Bags are packed. When do we march?

[USMC]

Dan,

I was wondering. Could the House, if controlled by a majority of Pro-Americans come 2011, could they just bleed ObamaCare to death by cutting off funding? No money, no departments, councils, bureaus, etc. right?

Also how plausible is it for governors and state legislatures to huddle up with state police and local law enforcement to provide protection to state citizens that rebel against the Feds through with holding of taxes, etc.?

Bleed the beast. There isn't enough Feds to go after everybody and the states can allow citizens to "defend" themselves from the Feds if police can't get there in time.

And any LEO who sides with the feds should be fired from his position. It's time we played hardball with these scumbags. It's time we draw a line in the sand. Separate the wheat from the chaff.

My knowledge of how government works is limited so was wondering if you or any other gurus could tell me how feasible this is.

This is going to get interesting and nasty.

[smitty]

Oh, you mean like the Federal Reserve Act?
2013 will be the century mark on this brewing storm of crap.

[Dan Riehl]

USMC - there is no bill, yet - no law has been passed. That's all that matters today. We should focus on nothing else but making sure it doesn't happen. Next steps only come after that. We need to unite and focus. Period.

[JadedByPolitcs]

I will stand with you Dan and have worked my butt off thus far to stop this travesty and will be working very hard to send Connelly in VA-11 home in 2010 but WE need to stand ready with an ARMY of lawyers to FIGHT this in the courts until WE have the Congress WE DESERVE in place. I remember the left tying up the late term birth abortion bill in the courts for years until the Supreme Court ruled in favor of it so that is what I am thinking of with regards to tying it up. I certainly would like to see a clearing house of attorneys with paypal links to keep them fighting to STOP this HORROR!

[gary gulrud]

This is our 'litmus test' in future elections.

[southdakotaboy]

The guys who were always called the "fringe" are starting to look more and more right about this kind of stuff.

So what we must now consider is if they were right might they also be right about the solutions to this destruction of the Constitution.

We must start to publically start to organize for a forceable removal of the Democrat and Radical Left power structure. We need to start getting pettitions on the ballot or in the hands of our Governors that push for seccesion. This must be done publically. In Texas the last polling done had something like 49% of the people wanting to form their own country. What would the result now? We need to show that if they pass this they are flirting with the country coming apart.

Lets take this thing to the UN. I'm sure we could find plenty of countries that would be happy to see us split up. Turn the UN against them and then let the LIBS choke on it.

[WJ]

If Reid is saying that all it takes is a majority vote to have the 3/5 vote be "necessary".

Then, a simple majority vote in the future could simply state the 3/5 vote is no longer "necessary".

[Engineer]

This is quite bizarre if it is really correct.

My totally uneducated guess is that whether or not it could be enforced depends on the ruling of the majority leader.

Whoever is the chair of the deliberations after 2010 could simply rely on the Senate rules and noone is really able to do anything about that.

Though if the procedural statement is to be taken as a law, then certainly it's in the purview of the Supreme Court.

[miran]

"an ugly first step toward dictatorship."

First step?! LOL. Where have you been for the last thirty years?! Under a rock?

[xerocky]

" “it shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.” "

Say what? Says who exactly?

[Elmo]

I keep sayin I ain gunna turn and run (move ta Israel). That I was born here ... will die here (and not on my knees). Now, I really don't know if I can accept the destruction of my country. My heart already heavy. Smart money sez to take a coupla/three days recreatin. Well see?

http://anechoicroom.blogspot.com/2009/08/traitors.html

[ThomasD]

Another (partial) quote.

"[I]t is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it."

[MarkJ]

"an ugly first step toward dictatorship."

The steps dictators take usually lead them eventually to scaffolds.

[JC]

" “it shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.” "

Well, if that's they way they want to play, when we take back both the house and senate, we just put together the "Saving America from Derilicts, Scumbags, and Communists Kunts" (SADSACK) act which outlaws the Democrat Party and all leftwing ideology and forces everyone who adheres to it to be force-marched into the Amazon jungle to be left to die and drop that little ditty above into it. See how much they'll like it then.

I swear, these shitbags are hoping for a civil war.