Obama 1st Prez To Show Real Concern For Churches

I don't have a personal dog in this fight. I don't attend, either. What amazes me is the willingness of outlets like Time to go with any spin the WH wants to put out. You might recall Obama claiming they would select a church after arriving in Washington. He did claim to attend regularly for 20 years during the campaign. Now, he simply doesn't want to put out the little people. It still amazes me that he was able to skirt any alleged media filter while remaining such a fiction, let alone maintain it after taking office.

Church, in fact, has been a surprisingly tough issue for the Obamas. They resigned their membership with Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago in 2008 after Obama renounced the church's controversial former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. And while the First Family intended to find a local church to attend when they moved to Washington, concerns about crowds and displacing regular worshippers has prevented them from finding a new religious home during their first year here.

Comments

[John Jones]

Now, as much as I'm one to jump on any anti-Obama bandwagon. I do remember Reagan echoing the same thoughts in his diary. My first thought is to distrust the guy, but these might be actual concerns. Plus, as President, he might value personal time with his God over fellowship, something that would be superficial at best.

[Dan Riehl]

I miight agree with you, John, had he not claimed to spend 20 yrs with Reverend Wright. Whatever the actual story is, I doubt we know it.

[Nellie]

I expect it wouldn't be too hard to get guest preachers to perform a nice service at the White House on Sundays, for the Obamas and any guests or staffers who would like to attend.

[gus]

Obama was a US SENATOR. US SENATORS live in WASHINGTON D.C.
Why did Obama not have a church in D.C. then.
There is ZERO evidence that OBAMA is not or has ever been a Christian. He MAY BE, but there is no evidence of him EVER embracing Christianity. Quite the contrary.

[John Jones]

I really hope that he is learning from his mistakes at this juncture. However, I think it's only the most visible trip ups that he may be using to adjust his point of view. His using religion for political gain, as he did at trinity (that's giving him the biggest benefit of a doubt possible) would be one of these scenarios. While actual membership in a certain church might be damning, not having any is hardly a strike against someone. If anything, he is being extra careful of where he might go.

Just a caveat: This is probably the only area where I would give him (or anyone) this much rope. As much as I cannot put myself in the place of the President, I know what is good for the country and will criticize those who stray from that path. However, as much as I can speak to what I feel a Christian should do, I don't pretend to know the condition of anyone else's heart. And who's to say that he doesn't see a minister or chaplain? If they were to release that he does, I know I would be the first to jump on anyone who tried to publicize/spin that info.

If we assume that he actually wanted to find a good church. I would say that specific goal fell by the wayside after our neophyte President actually started figuring out the weight his office actually carried.

[john2000]

Most of the evidence simply suggests he is simply a communist who had some contact with Islam faith in his youth. Why not just accept the facts? The church in chicago was more for social connections in the 'hood than for religion. Islam would be his first choice. The evidence is clear.

[SinLater]

kind of find it hard to believe he ignores going to church or even finding one, simply because of the attraction of the media. the guy is a media whore, why would that bother him? More than not, most Christians make it a priority to attend Mass, services. Clinton and wife did it a few times in their years in office. And I don't remember to much information about any of our past presidents and reporting on their attendence. So hard to say.

[TheMadKing]

Why don't the Obamas just bring in a preacher on Sunday mornings? Along with some select devout guests, LOL! But seriously. How many American preachers and other domestic Men of God wouldn't be lining up around the block for that sweet gig? Hey, I'll betcha the CAIR guy gets it!

Just got a feeling. You know. Like it's their turn to roost. Like Mao roosting on the national Christmas tree, for example. ZOMG! When did we lose this country? I musta just missed it.

[bet]

Let's see.....father was a muslim and a communist, step-father was a muslim, teen-agee mentor was a communist, preacher was(is) a nut-job racist-communist, friend Ayers is a communist.

Me thinks Dear Leader has both Islamic and Marxist sympathies. No, I must be a hate filled right wing racist to have such thoughts!

[rssg]

Let's face it, the country is basically over. We are no longer a first-rate, strong, independent, industrial/technological power.

Obama's desire is to see the USA brought down a notch or two; weak, soft, feminized, a paper tiger. Destroy or ignore the cultural traditions of 90% of the population. Cater to the tiny minorities of moooslims, hindus, buddhists, atheists, etc.

And it's happening.

[Paul A'Barge]

Occam's Razor says .... Obama is a Muslim.

[Dennis D]

Black Liberation Theology has more to do with being black and less to do with relgion. Thats how a self described Church of Rev Wright could make Nation of Islam leader Farrahkan its " Man of the year". Its all about race,

[Fred Beloit]

Sell BS if you like John "I'm a Troll" Jones, but you're not fooling anybody. The lie that you are "one to jump on any anti-Obama bandwagon" we've heard before. Trolls make it all the time. "I'm a life-long conservative Republican, but this Palin is a real low-life. And a one-payer government health reform is clearly the best thing for the country right now." Sure, sure.

This guy Obama is a stone Chicago Dem pol. That's what he is; that's all he is. They all go to church...until they get what they want, then not so much. (Truth in commenting: I am not religious and never go to church.)

[brcu]

Barry and especially his wife, made big money doing NOTHING (she had a salary over 300k/yr as a "diversity advisor"), now they lecture the American people on how we should be willing to do with less in order to "spread the wealth".

This big eared chimp needs to be de-elected ASAP. Obamacare needs to be opposed and made to crumble before it's enacted.

Government lawyer/politicians are gonna micro-manage all our lives in the interest of "social justice"?

Kiss my ass Barry.

[John Bibb]

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Comrade Obama (PBUH) is all show--and all words--as the Immortal Bard said, "All sound and fury--signifying nothing!".
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[John Jones]

All I'm saying is that, given his past at trinity, where it's pretty apparent that he went there to advance his political career. He just might be hesitant to relive that whole thing again. Hopefully, he is learning from his mistakes, otherwise we're in for 3 more (even longer)long years.

Beside's the guy needs every waking hour he can get to try to govern, he's over his head.

Hell, him not going to church could be easily explained from a security standpoint. Him being in the same spot at a regular time amongst a group of unscreened people is a very real problem for the Secret Service, who haven't been doing their best work as of late. Sure, you could say they could screen everyone. But that argues their original point. But instead of looking at the actual situation we can all resort to calling him a Muslim.

[Luke]

I would ne willing to bet that if Obama is not relected in 2012,which I hope so,we could find him in a Mosque within a year.He just cannot do it now even though the latent tendencies may be there.

[Anon]

I don't think he's a muslim, in fact I think that's pretty crazy, BUT, I think his "Christian awakening" or whatever he calls it is pure and total fiction. It's obvious to me that Barry is at best an agnostic [I don't have a problem w/the president being an agnostic, unlike a lot of conservatives would/will] but I do have a problem with an agnostic who not only pretends to be a devout Christian but who attended a church and was mentored by a black nationalist racist preacher for the sole purpose of advancing his political career.

That makes him a hypocrite, a liar and a rank opportunist, of course I already knew these three things about Obama, but using his alleged religion in such a shameful way while processing to be pias is truly distasteful in a different way.

[Doc]

Obama belongs to the church of the one.

It's sacrament is a mirror.

Abandoned by his father, sent away by his mother.
He developed an overwhelming sense of self-importance as a shield.

Perhaps the most damaged psyche ever to be president.

[John Jones]

Anon, I would tend to agree with you. But I won't judge what someones heart may be, in a lack of evidence.

Paul A'Barge: Occam's razor is the principle that "entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity". That is, it's simplifying things in the midst of a large amount of evidence. It is not jumping to wild conclusions, based off of what can be best described as a lack of evidence.
I would hope that you wouldn't judge me by my father's actions (in my case I couldn't live up to them, in Obama's he progressed despite them) or what I did in my teens. I would assume that you'd ask the same of others.

[brcu]

A person is, to a certain extent, the product of not just their family biology but the way they were raised, by whom and in what manner, values, etc.

Our Genius in Chief grew up in and around rabid, anti-American anarchists, socialists, mooooslims and assorted academic utopians.
Thus, he is what he is. One need not be a practicing psychiatrist to notice that Barry is ambivalent about American history, traditions, free enterprise, Christianity, the West in general, etc. He is conflicted and sometimes hostile to those ideas. He is more comfortable with 3rd worlders, tyrants/despots who lead many nations, contemptous of the public, sometimes hostile to white Americans, etc.

Bottom line: Barry is a very inexperienced man. Zero experience in business. Zero military experience and very, very little experience in politics. He is merely a smooth talker. That's how he got enough white Americans to vote for him, by speaking softly, in a genteel fashion.

His current approval rating among white Americans is a dismal 36% or so. Unless that improves sharply, he will not likely be re-elected.

[Neo]

Obama did state that he saw Jesus Christ as a "historic figure"

Most Christians or Muslims would not use that terminology

[Red]

President Obama and the First Family were planning a “non-religious Christmas,” according to Social Secretary Desiree Rogers. Ms. Rogers reportedly told a gathering of former social secretaries that the Obamas did not intend on putting the Nativity scene on display – a longtime East Room tradition.

The account was reported in the Fashion and Style section of The New York Times. The White House confirmed to the Times that there had been internal discussions about making Christmas more inclusive – but in the end – tradition won out – and the Nativity scene is once again in its traditional East Room spot.

This was per Fox News. If accurate, and I do not doubt that it is, it is obvious that Obama is not any kind of Christian. I personally think he is not a religious man of any sort, which is fairly unacceptable to most Americans of their leaders, thus he maintains a facade so he can pretend to be what he is not.

[Anon]

I agree, he's not religious and I agree that he is ambivalent about most Western traditions.

Christmas does not need to be inclusive, unless your mind is completely clouded by political correctness a Christmas that is "inclusive" does not even make sense. Christmas is a Christian holiday. While it is true that many Christians in name only [like myself] see Christmas as less about the birth of christ and more about the tree, family, gifts, etc. that still does not change the essential nature of Christmas.

Each religious tradition has their own holidays, and having holidays that commemorate your religion is by definition exclusive of anyone who doesn't believe.

The fact that the Obamas even considered not putting out the nativity scene shows just what a total lefty freak he really is, IF he was a "Christian" in the way that he claims he is in his book then there would never have been any discussion at all about such a change from tradition.

Truly, I did not think it was humanly possible for me to dislike a president more than I disliked George W. Bush, but I loath Obama, at least you could believe that Bush--however wrong he was--believed his moves were right and good for the country. W/Barry, everything he does and says is purely a political calculatrion of what he can get away with and what will enhance his own career. He is the definition of empty suit.

[Elmo]

"It still amazes me that he was able to skirt any alleged media filter while remaining such a fiction, let alone maintain it after taking office"

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=6952

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brcu | Friday, December 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM

"Barry and especially his wife, made big money doing NOTHING (she had a salary over 300k/yr as a 'diversity advisor')"

It's my understanding, that the hospital she worked for/at, led in profits (during her employ). By rountinely/systematically denying care. To the medically indigent.