When Does Life Begin For A Bill?

Okay, we all know a couple of health bills have been conceived. But are they viable pieces of legislation?

Frankly, I'm just not certain it matters. Given their strong support for abortion, liberal Dems look to be sucking the life out of it as we speak. A couple of campaign consultants and I were discussing this fecal bit of legislation at lunch today, as distasteful as it seemed to us at the time.

Bottom-line, as even Lindsey Graham was forced to admit on some Sunday talking head program, Obama's baby is DOA when it hits the Senate. It's already said to be looking at 2010. This mass of matter will end up being put off until after the election due to the campaign season gearing up early thanks to the groundswell of push back against Obama's overall agenda.

We're already too close to it for the politicians to risk this type of dangerous vote and Republicans will delay a vote any way they can. Don't forget, they'll also have Lieberman's help, much to the relief of conservative Democrats.

In a sense, the American people will get to make the call. The composition of the legislature after 2010 will make the final decision, as I doubt it could be gotten through between November and January of next year.

Obama will not get to father this monstrosity actually fertilized with the seed of Karl Marx.

Comments

[Philip McDaniel]

If that is so we can all breath a sigh of relief, for the momentum of the obama push to socialism will have broken. His presidency will end up a lame duck in 2010 and we can set about fixing the damage that has been done.

These snakes, however, will not just roll over. They have plenty of venom still in them and can poison the body politic. We had best be on our guards. Remember they come from a Chicago environment, have an Alinsky and Rev. Wright mentality and will not hesitate to strike back.

[X11B1P]

Dan, are you saying that the Dems/Reid in the Senate will put off this vote until after next November as a - if you don't vote for us this won't happen, as a way to charge the Dem base and if still in power in the Seante, vote on it after the election? How does Reid square that with Obama as well as his more liberal members of the Senate, not to mention the left that will launch a Vlad the Impaler type campaign against him for the next year if this happens?

[Dan Riehl]

No, not saying that. But they won't want to make the vote running into an election cycle. They'd be better off going into it with Stupak in place, then removing it after the election. Then there would be two years until the next election, which will be a referendum on Obama and not much else. Obama is selling this, telling them it won't hurt them in 2010. I think they'll eventually kick it back to him and say, okay, then you deal with it in 2012 and we'll ride your coattails. Besides, Reid wouldn't be up for another six years assuming he wins.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Obama will not get to father this monstrosity actually fertilized with the seed of Karl Marx. --"

Seriously. Dan. Go out and get a girlfriend. You're scaring people.

[Dan Riehl]

Why Islamo? I have you to beat up, moron.

[Philip McDaniel]

Well, I just saw the pilot for V. It explains everything. Right down to Universal Health Coverage...As mentioned in the pilot, they've been here for years, plotting and planning. Now, they've decided to come out in the open. According the the pilot of the series, we are in grave danger.

...It seems clear to me that they are democrats.

[MarkJ]

I think the probable failure of the Senate to pass this abortion of a bill will result in a lot of relieved Donk representatives. They can tell the well-heeled leftwing loonies next year, "Hey guys, I voted for PelosiCare but it just wasn't in the cards to pass. Did my best, bro's. Now open up those fat checkbooks and give 'til it hurts."

[x11b1p]

Thanks for the clarification Dan.

[mark l.]

one has to wonder why the house decided to go ahead with the vote...

the wh was desperate for a win, short term, biut the "why now" was hazy.

just caught that obama is going to send 40k troops. things are a little less hazy, now.

[mark l.]

"There are two great health-care crises in America—one in-volving coverage and the other cost. The Obama plan appears likely to tackle the first but not the second. This is bad economics but also bad politics: the crisis of cost affects 85 percent of Americans, while the crisis of coverage affects about 15 percent. Obama's message to the country appears to be "We have a dysfunctional health-care system with out-of-control costs, and let's add 45 million people to it."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/221611/output/print

beyond that this is from newsweek, the author is Fareed Zakaria.
IF you have lost zakaria, you have lost middle/liberal america.
(DO NOT LET CONOR see this link, or we'll have a 50 page thesis on the collapse of the far right)

This bill isn't even the body of stillborn infant, just after-birth.

[ClassicFilm]

"-- Obama will not get to father this monstrosity actually fertilized with the seed of Karl Marx. --"

Thank you, Dan. You actually made me laugh and be repulsed at the same time with that sentence. Add to that a tiny bit of hope. But not the "hopenchange" kind of hope.

[Elmo]

"When Does Life Begin For A Bill?" ...

Ummm da quaystion izz, when does it die?

We already know it has gone on to the happy hunting ground in the sky. And yet every atomic paper I pick up, each day, acts as if it has already been passed. Engaged in celebration. And thusly ... Pharoah's aura glows ever brighter (now LED powered!).

Insane.

[templar knight]

I don't know, Dan. I think Reid might just use the nuclear option to pass this bill, which will allow "moderate" Democrats to vote against it and thus retain their viability. It's at least a 50-50 chance, or so I believe.

[WBestPresidentEver]

fertilized with the seed of Karl Marx. (Amen to that)