The Boy King: Where Do O Bow Now?

When not making gaffes due to a sputtering teleprompter, it seems boy king O-Bow-Now's handlers simply point him at the latest thug king or emperor with instructions to bow down as low as he possibly can. It's a good thing O-Bow-Now didn't face the challenges of coming up through the ghetto as, unfortunately, too many blacks do. If he ever had to do time, his flexibility in being able to bend over so far would have gotten him on any jail's ten most wanted and taken list.

There was a recent headline claiming O-Bow-Now was America's first Pacific POTUS. I stop short of that, simply referring to him as our first un-American head executive. Obviously O-Bow-Now doesn't have a clue what it means to be one, let alone its president.

Bill Clinton disgraced the Oval Office by putting a young female intern on her knees. O-Bow-Now is just taking it to the logical next step, all but hitting his knees himself to any and every alleged world potentate. That seems to be the case except for our traditional allies like Britain, Canada and Australia, of course. That's likely just too all fired American for him. Tragically, O-Bow-Now's misguided acquiescence to the world's leaders and more tyrannical dictators seems to go hand-in-hand with his weak foreign policy, too.

Let's hope he bends over this easily in 2012 so we can kick his sorry azz out of the WH where it never belonged in the first place. Hail the boy media king obsessed with his image and determined to destroy the country's economy just as the media all but destroyed its culture before hand. By 2012, it'll be well past time to take it back and we can get a good start on it in 2010. Be sure to remember that! Don't get mad, get engaged in our political process. If O-Bow-Now can't stand up for America, it falls to us to do it. No one else can, or will.

How low will the new American president go for the world's royalty?

This photo will get Democrat President Obama a lot of approving nods in Japan this weekend, especially among the older generation of Japanese who still pay attention to the royal family living in its downtown castle. Very low bows like this are a sign of great respect and deference to a superior.

To some in the United States, however, an upright handshake might have looked better. Remember Michelle Obama casually patting Britain's Queen Elizabeth on the back during their Buckingham Palace visit? America's royalty tends to make movies and get bad reviews and lots of money as a sign of respect.

Obama could receive some frowns back home as he did for his not-quite-this-low-or-maybe-about-the-same-bow to the Saudi king not so long ago. (See photo here)

Comments

[Bob]

Wow, Dan, what a particularly pathetic airing of your pathological hatred of our president. It seems like you spend a lot of your time wallowing in fantasies about the violent humiliation of Barack Obama. I suppose when you represent a political movement that has no ideas and no solutions for the problems of this country, hate- and fear-mongering is all you have left. In my opinion, your "criticism" is so irresponsible and so far beyond the pale that it shows a basic disrespect for our democracy. Your desire for Obama (and therefore the entire country) to fail makes you a disloyal American. Whine about it all you want, but Obama won the election, he still has the support of a majority of Americans, and you're just going to have to respect his (and his party's) right to pursue their agenda.

[Joe]

How about bowing to the American Taxpaper? I think the clip on the thread below does not go far enough. Obama would need to dig the hole, bow, and then bury himself to start making that apology work.

[Dan Riehl]

Hey Bob. Rspect this, shmuck! In the democracy that you "alleged" to believe in, I don't have to treat O Bow Now like my king the way you do and the way he treats foreign leaders.

[Your Better]

"Hey Bob. Rspect this, shmuck! In the democracy that you "alleged" to believe in, I don't have to treat O Bow Now like my king the way you do and the way he treats foreign leaders."

You are not real bright are you? Forget I asked.

[Bob]

"Hey Bob. Rspect this, shmuck! In the democracy that you "alleged" to believe in, I don't have to treat O Bow Now like my king the way you do and the way he treats foreign leaders."

How do I treat Obama like my "king," Dan? By not fantasizing about him being raped in prison? By saying obsequious things like, "He won the election" and has the "right to pursue his agenda?" I'm not the one who's getting carried away with my emotions about Obama, one way or the other. YOU are. But you seem to obsess in that pathological and somewhat icky way about all of your hated enemies, whether it's Friedersdorf, Obama, Griffin, or whomever. Again, since you apparently have no actual principles and no ideas, it seems like hatred of your enemies and fawning sycophancy about your friends like Sarah Palin are all you have to offer. Are you a political commentator, or a member of a junior high clique?

[Tired of Obama Already]

Bob -- The generation who fought the Revolutionary War did so in part because they believed that all people are created equal and no one should have to bow to inherited aristocracy.

You are as ignorant as Obama if you think bowing to a King is appropriate for our President.

[Fred Beloit]

Bob say: "Your desire for Obama (and therefore the entire country) to fail makes you a disloyal American."

Why not at all, Bobby. Any loyal American would want an attempt at a socialist dictatorship in America to fail, and the sooner the better. BTW, that parenthetical nonsense you included does not stand the test of logic, to wit:

Obama is one American.
The entire country is composed of mostly all Americans.
Ergo, one American is the entire country.
Bbbllllllllaaaaaeeeehhhhhhh. (Outrageous fallacy detector going off.)

[nessus]

It is American tradition that all Americans, most of all the President (nor our flag), do not bow down to foreign royalty.

But Obambi is who he is, what’s surprising about it?

His father was not only a muslim but a communist (offical with the Kenyan government). His step-father was a muslim. His teenaged mentor was a radical communist. His mother was a far-left, utopian liberal.

Many of his friends and associates have radical, anti-American, anarchist, communist beliefs.

Therefore, he’s a product of his upbringing, like all of us. Only most of us had decent American upbringings and do not hate our country.

How's that change working out for ya? ;)

[Fred Beloit]

Bob further say: ""He won the election" and has the "right to pursue his agenda?"

Bob, he won't win the next one the way he is going. How about you try Hillary one more time? Obama makes her look like a Republican I might vote for. Yes, yes, he has a right to pursue his agenda and we have a right to hope like hell and work like hell to see he doesn't achieve it.

[Bob]

"You are as ignorant as Obama if you think bowing to a King is appropriate for our President."

Every phrase you write is run through with political prejudice and unproven assumptions. Obama is ignorant? Really? I watched all of the debates and he whipped John McCain fair and square. Can you sincerely claim that YOU could beat Obama in a debate? Obama graduated from Harvard Law School. What are YOUR academic credentials?

Right wingers pretend that they've proven something just by saying it. You've gotten so lazy because within your wing nut world, all people do is wallow in their prejudices. They never have to prove it when they say ridiculous things like "Obama hates America" or "Obama wants to destroy America." All the other wing nuts nod in unison, like they always do. But just don't confuse what you're doing with being intellectually honest or making a fair point. There's never any substance to your criticisms. It's just saying defamatory things that other wing nuts like to pretend are true without having proven it. It works great when you're preaching to the choir. Just don't think that anybody who's not a right wing extremist buys it. In the real world, you just look kinda silly and petty for saying things like that.

It's bush league to try to extrapolate some awkward-looking photo of a president -- which there are always going to be examples of for ANY heavily covered world leader -- into some kind of meaningful commentary about their actual policies. It was dumb when people tried to do it with Bush:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushstayscrawford.htm

and it's dumb to do it with Obama.

[Fred Beloit]

Let's apply logic to that parenthetical assertion one more time; perhaps we can make a syllogism work:
Obama is the President
America has a President
Ergo, the President is the entire country. Bbbllllllllaaaaaeeeehhhhhhh.
Hmmm
The entire country has a President
Obama is the President
Ergo, Obama is the entire country. Bbbllllllllaaaaaeeeehhhhhhh.
Sorry, Bob, I can't do anything with the material you provided.

[Bob]

"Sorry, Bob, I can't do anything with the material you provided."

Sure you can, Fred. When all you're doing is bullsh*tting, when you never prove anything in an honest way, you can just make up whatever suits your needs for the moment. So if you now claim not to be able to do something, we see it as just another fact-free, insincere pose. For wing nuts, political discourse is like farting.

[Fred Beloit]

So, I failed. But at least let me make one of your larger paragraphs reflect a better light on you talent for observation:

"Libruls pretend that we've proven something just by saying it. I've gotten so lazy because within the moonbat world, all we people do is wallow in our prejudices. We never have to prove it when we say ridiculous things like "Obama is qualified to be President or "Obama loves America, even though God damns America as his preacher teaches." All the other asshats nod in unison, like we always do. But just don't confuse what I'm doing with being intellectually honest or making a fair point. There's never any substance to my criticisms. It's just saying defamatory things that other nutroots like to pretend are true without having proven it. It works great when I'm preaching to the choir. Just don't think that anybody who's not a left wing extremist buys it. In the real world, I just look kinda silly and petty for saying things like that."

There you go, Bob. At least I was able to fix this part for ya.

[Bob]

Let's take a common example, Fred. Prove to me that Obama is a real communist, or that he hates America. I mean, don't just say it. Prove it with fair evidence in an intellectually honest way. Use official definitions for things like "communist" or "hate." Prove it with examples. Got it?

[DaveinPhoenix]

Hey Bobby - why don't you get a blanket and lay down on the floor with all your little communist scumbag kindergarden school buddies to take a nap. We will dissent and we will fight back against this waste of sperm president and corrupted congress for as long as it takes, and if you don't like it, that is tough.

[naturalfake]

Hey wingnuts, he didn't bow!

PRESIDENT OBAMA HIDES RARE MEDICAL CONDITION

http://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2009/11/14/obama-hides-rare-medical-condition/

[SteveP]

Bob,
American presidents don't bow to any earthly king-EVER.
It's ignorant assholes like you that make socialist dictatorship possible.

[Fred Beloit]

Now, Bob, have you been talking about you king again near Veterans day?

---Government-controlled medicine is socialistic...Obama wants it for the USA.
---Government-controlled or owned business is socialistic...Obama has made it happen to some degree at GM, on Wall Street, at insurance companies. ---His eye is on energy producers. He wants to build one new industry, so called green energy, and eliminate the energy we now need and need now. ---Socialism involves "spreading the wealth around", i.e.,taking from Joe and giving to Al. Obama wants to spread the wealth around.
There is truth in all these statements, now isn't there, Bob?

[JustOneMan]

Ohhhhhh Nooooooo...... If I am not mistaken the emperor is giving the Affirmative Action President the "delayed death grip"!! or.....

Barry is bending over getting ready to take it on the "down low" with a 600 lb Sumo wrestler!!

[A. Stephens]

"Obama won the election" Bob

Granted. And elections have consequences, hence he gets to pursue his initiatives. However, blind allegiance to, and unchallenging support of his agenda is not required, nor historically precedented.

On a personal level, I could care less about the man, but on policy I hope and pray that he fails miserably. For in my view his "successes" are tearing at the basic fabric of what is the unique American experience. That, as leader of the free world occupying the most powerful office on the planet, he doesn't seem to comprehend (or maybe he does) the significance of his public proclamations and behaviors on foreign soil only reinforces the view that he's either a.) in way over his head or b.) intent on marginalizing the very country he's been blessed to be chosen to lead.

You can disagree with my position and all is fair in the discourse but I submit that there is no credible defense (and turning the debate into a rehash of Bush grievances does not qualify) of what this man has done and is doing TO this country.

Okay Bob, back to you. Can you keep it rational?

[Anon]

I hate to agree with Bob, but what is the big deal about Obama bowing, aren't leaders supposed to follow appropriate protocol?

But, I've said before, when people say that Obama wants to destroy America, I don't think they mean consciously that this is what he desires to do consciously, but they mean that his policies and his mindset WILL destroy America. I'm sure Obama really believes that the magic of Keynesian economics means that you can continue to tax the productive elements of society and they will magically continue to increase their productivity, I'm sure he believes in most of his agenda, even the parts of his agenda that he won't admit to, are fundamentally "good" for the country.

However, good intetions do not equal good policy.

[Dan Riehl]

Bob's been waiting all his life to serve on a black man's plantation. Give 'em a break! ; )

[rssg]

Our Marxist-Moooslim Chimp in Chief is hemmoraging caucasian support.....The One(termer) is doomed.

3 more years and it's buh-bye.

[Anon]

Maybe yes, maybe no. Right now the GOP doesn't have anyone reasonable who could beat him, forget Sarah Palin, independents will never vote for her.

If the econony turns around between now and 2012 then Obama has a reasonable chance of getting a second term. The disastrous consequences of his health care plan will not be felt until well after 2012.

The media will still be in his corner so whoever runs against him is going to have to deal with the same "everything is racist" diatribes and you should assume he will capture the same share of the black and youth votes as he did in 2008.

It is by no means a sure thing that he won't get a second term.

[Bob]

"American presidents don't bow to any earthly king-EVER.
It's ignorant assholes like you that make socialist dictatorship possible."

Explain to me one practical consequence of the manner in which Obama greeted the Saudi king. Explain how the Obama administration's policies towards Saudi Arabi (or anywhere else) were negatively impacted by Obama's gesture, or how the practical consequences of that gesture differ from President Bush holding hands with Prince Abdullah. But you can't can you? Things like that have no practical consequence at all. It's just wing nuts whining about trivial symbolic B.S. because they have nothing of any substance to talk about.

[SteveP]

I hate to agree with Bob, but what is the big deal about Obama bowing, aren't leaders supposed to follow appropriate protocol?

An American president bowing to ANY king, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME AND UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES is NOT appropriate protocol.
I believe the Jugeared Nitwit hates America and all it stands for. His goal is to destroy America as we know it and construct a socialist utopia("fundamentally transform America"). Proceeding from that premise is the only way his words and actions make any sense.
You're probably right that he thinks Keynesian economics is the right way to go since it is the modern economic model of socialism.

Bob,
Obama is clearly a communist. If you read his books, listen to his speeches and observe his policies with a knowledge of Marxism it's obvious.
His father and stepfather were both members of the Communist Party. Since his mother's 2 husbands were both party members it's pretty plain that she too was a communist. I've never seen any claims of his grandparents party affiliation but it's highly likely that they were at least fellow travelers. Obama is what is known as a red diaper baby.
Obama says that the 3 men who had the most influence on his ideology and world view were his stepfather, Frank Marshall Davis and Jeremiah Wright. 2 of the 3 were members of the Communist Party and the 3rd is a preacher that subscribes to the Marxism inspired Black Liberation Theology and clearly hates America.
I fervently hope and pray that Obams fails in his attempt to fundamentally transform American into a collectivist dystopia.

[Bob]

"You can disagree with my position and all is fair in the discourse but I submit that there is no credible defense (and turning the debate into a rehash of Bush grievances does not qualify) of what this man has done and is doing TO this country."

What silly hyperbole. No credible defense? Bullsh*t. On the economy: Propping up the financial sector through TARP was recommended by many leading economists and the program was started under the Bush administration. The economic stimulus program was recommended by most of the leading economists, and has been criticized for, if anything, being TOO small. On healthcare reform: A majority of Americans want healthcare reform. Obama has chosen a middle-of-the-road approach to achieving universal coverage for most Americans. He could have expanded Medicare to create a government-run program, but decided instead to allow PRIVATE INDUSTRIES to provide a majority of the service and collect the vast majority of money. These kinds of things -- which so far form the most significant initiatives of his presidency -- are areas that need attention, they receive mainstream support from experts in the field and from the general public, and they follow moderate rather than radical plans.

You may not agree with it, but to say there is "no credible defense" is not an honest statement.

[Bob]

"Obama is clearly a communist. If you read his books, listen to his speeches and observe his policies with a knowledge of Marxism it's obvious."

This is exactly what I mean. You don't prove anything. You just say that he "clearly" IS something and claim that it's "obvious," and then pretend that you've proven your point. Do you even know what communism is, or is it just a meaningless pejorative like "libtard" to you? Can't you see how silly you are?

[North Dallas Thirty]

Notice how the blabbering Bob doesn't offer specifics; he just speaks in mindless platitudes.

For example:

-- Bob tries to invoke TARP and the support of financial institutions, but ignores his Barack Obama's misuse of the funds to nationalize industries and purchase private companies -- something NOT supported by the vast majority of economists.

Fail.

-- Bob tries to argue about a "stimulus" package, but ignores the fact that a package of tax cuts would have cost a third as much for the same "stimulative" power, which is a fact proven by the research of Obama's own economic advisor.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/20/news/economy/obama_inauguration.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2009012008

Furthermore, Bob ignores the repeated lies told by Barack Obama about the "stimulus" package, including the obviously-faked job numbers that Barack Obama is using.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/12/porkulus-job-numbers-wildly-exaggerated-boston-globe/

So Bob, as always, tries to hide behind lies and smoke. Typical of Bob, who is neither honest or honorable and who does nothing here that qualifies as intellectual. Indeed, Bob has repeatedly demonstrated that he is incapable of criticizing Obama and insists that all Obama's failures are Bush's fault.

And finally:

"On healthcare reform: A majority of Americans want healthcare reform."

Polls repeatedly show that Americans repudiate Obama's plan.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/09/gallup-number-whod-tell-their-rep-to-vote-for-obamacare-down-11-points-since-last-month/

As usual, Bob tries to cloak the communist and Marxist behavior of his Barack Obama in platitudes. That is because Bob is a paid whore, a talking-points repeater who lacks any real honesty or intellectual curiosity and who only does what Obama says. Notice how clumsily he stumbles and how few facts he can provide when A. Stephens undercuts the fundamental Obama argument that Obama is not responsible for anything and everything has to be blamed on Bush.

The intellect-free Bob is not capable of evaluating Obama honestly. Bob's only response is to blame Bush and insist that everything Obama does is right.

[Anon]

It's funny, that apparently the only thing Bush did that was right in 8 years was TARP, and that coincidentally, Obama supported it.

TARP was and is a huge waste of money. None of the underlying problems with the capital markets, derivatives, etc. have been addressed and trust me when I tell you that capping executive pay doesn't in any way deal with the inherent weaknesses in the system or the 'too big to fail' problem.

Americans don't really support health care reform..if you ask someone if 'everyone should have access to health care, 99 out of a 100 people will say yes, but that is VERY FAR from support of the specific polices that Obama wants to put in place....Americans are very divided on health care reform and the more detailed the questions are, the less support there is.

The economic stimulus program has turned out, so far, exactly like its criticis predicted...it has not created any permanent jobs, done anything to stem the tide of job cuts outside of gov. jobs and has had no discernable impact on the overall economy. Indeed, if judging by the ridiculous claims of "saved and created jobs" it has been exactly the black hole of scams that the GOP said it would be.

Also, as predicted, the tax increases are coming fast and furious and you will note that Obama has stopped saying his health care reform will save the "average" family $2500 a year on their insurance premium, because it was always a lie.

[Fred Beloit]

It seems that Bob, the reasoned and truthful gentle persuader, makes s--- up, plain and simple: "A majority of Americans want healthcare reform.

Rassmusen: "Thirty-five percent (35%) of American voters say passage of the bill currently working its way through Congress would be better than not passing any health care reform legislation this year. However, a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that most voters (54%) say no health care reform passed by Congress this year would be the better option."

[Fred Beloit]

From CBS News Blogs 11/13/09
"Meanwhile, a Gallup poll released today shows that more Americans say the federal government should not make sure all Americans have health care coverage than say it should take on that responsibility. (Fifty percent say no, while 47 percent say yes.) This is the first time more Americans said it was not the government's responsibility since Gallup began tracking this question in 2001."

[Fred Beloit]

Anon. "It's funny, that apparently the only thing Bush did that was right in 8 years was TARP, and that coincidentally, Obama supported it."

It ain't funny because it ain't true. TARP is a continuing failure.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/04/news/economy/tarp_profits.fortune/index.htm

[Bob]

"As usual, Bob tries to cloak the communist and Marxist behavior of his Barack Obama in platitudes. That is because Bob is a paid whore . . ."

People who invoke communism and marxism in a discussion of Barack Obama are essentially broadcasting their ignorance and lack of honest historical perspective. I don't get paid for posting, etc. Just the usual baseless blather from NDFBAAB.

Again, you don't have to agree with Obama, but he's completely justified in doing what he's doing. He won the election fair and square and he still has the support of a majority of Americans. On healthcare, it's a rather even split in recent polls between Americans who approve of Obama's healthcare plans vs those who don't. There's a solid majority (57%) who support a government-run public option insurance plan.

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/obama-health-care-abc-news-washington-post-poll/story?id=8863442

YOU don't have to approve of Obama yourselves, but what he's doing is perfectly reasonable and moderate. He's not overthrowing the government or instituting communism as most of you know perfectly well. Right wing politics is all about displaying outrage through public temper tantrums. We realize that perfectly well, so take it with the same seriousness as when a 2-year-old has a temper tantrum because he can't play with his sisters' Barbi doll.

[Fred Beloit]

It also ain't funny because Bush bravely started a war on two fronts, already winning one and establishing a democracy in Iraq. It seems Obama can't even make a decision to s--- or go blind when it comes to protecting our military and winning in Afghanistan. But he takes immediate action in favor of a would-be dictator in Honduras. Birds of a feather.

[Fred Beloit]

ABC News "ANALYSIS By GARY LANGER
Oct. 19, 2009." This is the date on Bob's source.

That was then, Bob, this is now. The more people learn about the bills that are still alive, the less they like them, and with very good reason.

[Fred Beloit]

Bob: "YOU don't have to approve of Obama yourselves, but what he's doing is perfectly reasonable and moderate."

A majority of people polled recently don't agree with you, Bob. They say Obama is a librul, not a moderate. You can't fool all the people all the time.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124094/majority-say-obama-policies-mostly-liberal.aspx

[anon]

Oy, what about all those emotional outbursts and temper tantrums from the left during the Bush years? Ya know, that whole burning him in effegy, calling him a fascist, etc.? That was, like, super mature, dude. LOL.

I really, truly don't believe you can call MANDATED health insurance "moderate", nor do I think you can call government take overs of huge swaths of the private sector as "moderate". Obama styles himself a moderate, but he's not, he's a liberal, his liberalism is only constrained by the fact that most of the country doesn't yet share his views of government as the answer to all our problems.

But, don't worry, Bob, we'll get there eventually, and then wonder of wonders the centralized government utopia will turn out to suck, it will turn out to be a soul killing, mind numbing place where the only thing to excel in is flattering your superiors and the only currency is the side deal. And all the good liberals will be oh so surprised that it didn't work out the way they dreamed it would.

[Fred Beloit]

Basta, it gets boring going over and over the same ground with these guys. I'm going to take Miss Doucher(say DooSHAY) out for a sandwich. Bye all.

[Smoochy]

my god, but you people are stupid.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=bush+kiss+saudi

[Brian]

As someone who has lived in Japan, I am embarrassed by my President's DOUBLE GAFFE: Not only did the President break with American tradition by showing fealty to a foreign monarch, but he bowed to an angle considered unacceptable to most Japanese - a normal, respectful bow is approximately 30 degrees - the President is almost at 90 degrees.

I wonder what the Japanese Emperor thought of this social faux pa?

[O!]

Bob, thank you for that additional helping of Journolist/Axelturf talking point spam.

2010.

[William]

You are so classy! Hey, at least he didn't bow to the evil Emperor Meiji, enshrined as a god, like his predecessor, leaving the Prime Minister to sit in a car. Hahaha, you people will piss your pants over the silliest things.

[William]

Speaking of un-American, Dan Riehl and the rest of you pants-wetting "conservatives" are the very definition of the word. Etiquette, and international diplomacy are arcane concepts to you. If you can't shoot it, or blow it up, you don't know what to do with it.

Classy!

[William]

Also, weren't you dimwits bashing the first lady not long agi because she *didn't* bow to the Queen? Inconsistent much?

[Sally]

It's entirely inappropriate --and a smack in the face to the memories of 100,000 American war dead-- to bow before the imperial representative of the country of Japan. The men from the USS Missouri must be rolling in their graves. But then if Obama had been President in 1941, the FBI would have investigated Pearl Harbor as a crime. And yes, the war is over and Japan has long been a close ally. But that's only because we weren't in a groveling mood back then.

[Bob]

Fred, there's nothing wrong with Obama being a liberal. But he's a MODERATE liberal. The point I was trying to make was in response to A. Stephens claim that there was "no credible defense" for what Obama is doing. Obama is following the recommendations of many leading experts in fields like economics and healthcare. If that doesn't happen to get the approval of right wingers like you, then big surprise. But he's not a radical by any means, as many of you like to pretend. He hasn't even taken more drastic steps like breaking up these "too big to fail" financial institutions, or nationalizing more financial institutions, or going with a single-payer healthcare reform plan that would completely cut out the role of private industry.

And whether today's poll numbers are 51% to 49% or the other way around, public support is pretty evenly split between those who favor healthcare reform and those who don't. Obama is taking the side of the people who elected him -- more left-leaning voters, who overwhelmingly favor healthcare reform -- in his plans, and there's nothing wrong with that.

And when anon says: "it will turn out to be a soul killing, mind numbing place where the only thing to excel in is flattering your superiors and the only currency is the side deal." I can only answer, "Yes, just like England and Switzerland." Obama's healthcare plan is quite similar to the one they use in Switzerland, where healthcare costs are about 40% of ours. Doesn't the place just reek of poverty and mind-numbing despair?

http://www.switzerland.travelphotoguide.com/uploaded_images/switzerland-magnificent-landscape-786714.jpg

[Mikey]

"Obama's healthcare plan is quite similar to the one they use in Switzerland, where healthcare costs are about 40% of ours."

Yeah, and that's a great comparison, because except for its size, system of government, culture, origins, language, and history, Switzerland is just like America!

Is Obama's health care plan just like Pelosi's? Because it wasn't his that passed the House last week.

[Meg]

I lived in Japan for many years, speak the language, married a Japanese and have a half Japanese child. I was upset at Obama bowing to the Emperor-although bowing is the "equivalent" of a handshake, it is much more complicated as it is showing deference and the deeper bow is always given to the superior hence Obama's bow is showing he is the inferior in this relationship. I find him inferior but he doesn't need to advertise!

[SteveP]

"This is exactly what I mean. You don't prove anything. You just say that he "clearly" IS something and claim that it's "obvious," and then pretend that you've proven your point. Do you even know what communism is, or is it just a meaningless pejorative like "libtard" to you? Can't you see how silly you are?"

I guess you didn't bother to read the whole paragraph. I DID prove my point you worthless turd. It's all documented if you have the guts to look it up. (doubtful) From your posts it's plain that facts are a foreign concept to you.

"People who invoke communism and marxism in a discussion of Barack Obama are essentially broadcasting their ignorance and lack of honest historical perspective."

I invoke communism and marxism when discussing the Jugeared Nitwit because I am a student of history and political economy. My own research into his history, my knowledge of collectivist ideology and history and my study of economics have convinced me that your hero is, in fact, a communist. You, however, have displayed a very high level of ignorance and a strong aversion to the truth. In my experience these are traits common among leftists in general and especially among Obamunists.