Update: Bush Visits Fort Hood! - Obama To Camp David, Not Fort Hood???

Update: Via Twitter - Fox Reports GWB and Laura spent a few hours at Fort Hood, no photo ops. Now that's a CIC.

Are you kidding me? Camp frickin' David? What, does he have a tee time close by? For heaven's sakes, he's the CIC. And he's taking the weekend off? This guy simply doesn't care. Unbelievable via Fox.

11:25AM THE PRESIDENT addresses the House Democratic Caucus - Cannon House Office Building

2:30PM THE PRESIDENT makes a statement to the press on Health Care - Rose Garden

2:45PM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY depart The White House en route Camp David - South Lawn

Comments

[listing starboard]

NOt only that he is totally dissing the ceremony for the USSNew York--he should be THERE not in the backroom with the Demonrats destroying our Health Care system. How red do the flags have to be people? The man is not loyal to the United States!

[oldtimer]

W and Laura went and visited our injured FT.Hood Hero's without fanfare or photo op. THey have class and genuine love and respect for our Military. The O's could care less. Jug Ears was more concerned about Prof Gates than our Hero's.

[Bob]

Riehl today:

"For heaven's sakes, he's the CIC. And he's taking the weekend off? This guy simply doesn't care."

Riehl last week:

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2009/10/obama-from-wh-to-twl-in-four-short-years.html

"Meanwhile, [Obama] managed to slip off to Dover AFB between 12:30 and 4 AM last nightto greet returning caskets of 18 servicemen recently killed in Afghanistan. Despite the late hour, the event was anything but discreet. Turns out they managed to get a family of one, Army Sargent Dale R. Griffin, to agree to allow press coverage of the 15 minute ceremony, securing an inspiring photo op for the event. Maybe he wasn't tired, not having played golf that day, so far as I know, and had some time after a movie."

It's obvious that for petty whiners like Riehl, it really doesn't matter WHAT the president does. It's WHINE if he does, WHINE if he don't.

[syn]

"The man is not loyal to the United States!"

This is because Obama is President of the 57th State; the 57th State which does exist in the United States of America

[WAHOO WILLIE]

An observation on the difference between creating a photo-op and really facing consequences.

http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,205226,00.html?ESRC=dod-bz.nl

[Rick Caird]

That Bob is kind of a silly guy, isn't he. Obama arranges to meet to meet returning coffins from Afghanistan for a photo op and finds a family to meet with after 12PM, But, Obama ignores major, unexpected casualties at a domestic base in favor of lobbying Congress and going to Camp David. In the meantime, Bush quiety goes to Fort Hood, making it a point to do so without news coverage. Bob thinks not only are these actions equivalent, but also the act of meeting coffins in Dover excuses the CIC from going to his troops.

Bob sure is silly.

Rick

[mark l.]

"It's obvious that for petty whiners like Riehl, it really doesn't matter WHAT the president does."

if this was the only place where obama's my pet goat moment drew notice, you might be onto something.
I'm seeing this line of criticism bubbling up all over the place.

I saw the speech he gave...

2 minutes of healthcare, followed by his assessment of reality at fort hood.

The wh fumbled bigtime, for leting obama try and slip in a "two-fer". Just try to judge your rxn if bush had chosen to use his bullhorn moment to endorse tax cuts, before addressing the tragedy of 9/11.

Do I blame obama?
he's not smart enough to figure it out on his own, but the staff behind him blew it. They knew at around 2pm that he would have to make an address, and saw it as 'another' shot at getting the messiah to plug healthcare, as the nation would be drawn to the moment.

I tuned in to hear him speak about the incident, ala 'consoler in chief'. His priority was healthcare for 2013...

loser.

[djn]

1170 days to go before we send Zero packing.

[Bob]

For some of us, we might consider the Ft. Hood shootings to be a tragedy. Not the wing nuts. To them it's a golden opportunity to unite in more bitching and whining about Obama. So typical. You're using these deaths for cheap political posturing. Have you no shame?

[Ad rem]

Bob,

In the end your "Chocolate Jesus" is just going to melt and leave you with a mess on your hands. Pathetic tool....

[Richard O. Mahood]

Bob:

Do you consider it a tragedy? You said you might. What else could it be? An atrocity? A heinous crime of murder? Or a justified action by an oppressed minority speaking truth to power?

Bob, I dont know what you have but I want none of it.

rom

[Philip McDaniel]

I take strong issue with your comments, Bob. You get on here to exploit anything that occurs and to cast aspersions on anyone who is not "you" and your ever-loving bunch of left wing loonies. As if any of you had a clue as to what those of us on the right truly think and worry about.

You know, I'm really getting tired of listening to a scumbag like you and the others of your ilk that pervade the airwaves and internet. Go back to whatever it was you were doing before you felt compelled to scribble your nonsense here. Sit down in a corner, try on silly hats, dance, pick your nose, do whatever it is that morons do. But do it among your kind.

[Bob]

"I take strong issue with your comments, Bob. You get on here to exploit anything that occurs and to cast aspersions on anyone who is not "you" and your ever-loving bunch of left wing loonies. As if any of you had a clue as to what those of us on the right truly think and worry about."

Spare us your phony posturing, Philip. These deaths are not the personal property of the wing nut movement and don't deserve to be demeaned by your insincere whining. Show a little class. It's not about Obama, it's something really tragic that happened, as these things sometimes do. Neither Obama nor Bush are trying to politicize it, YOU are. So spare us the phony outrage.

[Bob]

Oh, take a gander at this, you hypocrites:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/07/AR2009110702083.html

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, will attend a memorial service in Fort Hood, Texas, on Tuesday for victims of a mass shooting."

Now I'll expect you all to immediately pivot into the "Obama is just a narcissist and this is just a photo-op" routine. Like I said, WHINE if he does, WHINE if he doesn't.

[North Dallas Thirty]

Tuesday? Why not already?

"The bodies of the 13 personnel who died were transported through a "ramp ceremony" to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware for a dignified transfer, he said. It was a "truly moving ceremony.""

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/texas.fort.hood.shootings/index.html

Oh, that's right. When and if he gets around to it. After all, he endorses and supports terrorists like Bill Ayers who were plotting to kill hundreds of US soldiers, so he's probably upset that someone stopped Hasan before he REALLY got started.

[Dan Riehl]

Of course Obama didn't politicize it, Bob. There's golf to be played. No doubt his handlers are salivating now at the speeches to come showing his pain and tremendous sorrow. But going to Fort Hood where military folk died while he allows them to die in Afghanistan and dithers about might mean bad headlines. So it must be avoided at all costs until the moment suits him. Then he will pounce on their corpses like the pigeon from Chicago he is and tear at them as the embattled commander he isn't and will never be.

[templar knight]

STFU, BOB! You and your ilk could care less about the military, including that dufus sitting in the WH. Why don't you just admit the truth, it's damn obvious. Yeah, you'll admit the truth about the same time you asshats figure out what caused the attacks on our soldiers at Ft. Hood. The rest of us already know. You and that fool in the WH can say stress...and multicultural...and all the other bullshit you've used before when dealing with these Islamic bastards, but that doesn't change the motive for the attacks, which is jihad. My sincere hope is that one of these jihadist bastards kills you or yours. You wouldn't even wake up then, but would go suck his ass some more, trying to figure out what could cause such a thing. You liberals make me want to vomit.

[baldilocks]

He should have been down there yesterday at the earliest, today at the latest. Period. That's what a commander does under such conditions.

[Ad rem]

What? The "Rookie and his Wookie" are going to show up at Fort Hood? I'm sure she'll be wearing another red dress and high heels too!

[North Dallas Thirty]

Obama's behavior is no surprise. The Obama Party has repeatedly endorsed and supported resolutions and laws that declare US soldiers "uninvited and unwelcome intruders".

http://www.dailycal.org/article/100144/city_council_passes_motions_criticizing_marines_of

But that's no surprise; the Obama Party base and Barack Obama himself are viciously anti-military and in fact support and endorse those who murder US citizens and troops.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/12/jodie-davis-code-pink-founder-obama-bundler-osama-apologist/

Bob is simply spinning for Obama, like Bob always does. Bob isn't capable of independent or intelligent thought. If you want to see something hilarious, ask Bob why he supports warrantless wiretapping when Obama does it since Bob screamed it was an impeachable offense and a violation of the Constitution under Bush. There simply is nothing that Obama does that Bob doesn't support.

[North Dallas Thirty]

We have to forgive the desperate Bob. His idiot Obama made another huge boo-boo yesterday.

"Democrats counter that their agenda has kick-started a recovery on Wall Street, even if it hasn't trickled down to the job market yet, and that Republicans are putting what they've begun at risk."

http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/11/worst_talking_point_ever.php

So now the Obama Party admits that all it's doing is trying to help Wall Street and that they believe helping Wall Street businesses creates jobs.

Which is exactly opposite to what the screaming Bob has said, which is that doing such a thing is putting the interests of "big business" ahead of people.

The lies the Obama Party and its paid whores like Bob keep telling keep unraveling more and more every minute. Now watch as paid whore Bob tries to spin and duck by claiming that Republicans are bad, rather than confront the hypocrisy of his own party and what he says.

[North Dallas Thirty]

And wow, even the Chicago papers that were such good worshipers of the Black Messiah are now starting to demonstrate that he, well.....LIES.

"More than $4.7 million in federal stimulus aid so far has been funneled to schools in North Chicago, and state and federal officials say that money has saved the jobs of 473 teachers.

Problem is, the district employs only 290 teachers.

"That other number, I don't know where that came from," said Lauri Hakanen, superintendent of North Chicago Community Unit Schools District 187.

The Obama administration last week released the first round of data designed to underpin the worthiness of its economic stimulus plan, which so far has directed $1.25 billion to Illinois schools. That money has helped save or create 14,330 school jobs in the state, the administration claimed.

But those statistics, compiled initially by the Illinois State Board of Education, appear riddled with anomalies that raise questions about their validity, according to a Tribune analysis of district-by-district stimulus spending and other state data. Many local school officials were perplexed by the stimulus data attributed to their districts.

In the official report, Wilmette Public Schools District 39 was credited with 166 jobs saved by stimulus aid. Superintendent Raymond Lechner said the number should be zero.

At Dolton-Riverdale School District 148, stimulus funds were said to have saved the equivalent of 382 full-time teaching jobs -- 142 more than the district actually has.

A similar discrepancy was found in data for Kankakee School District 111, where the stimulus report logged the equivalent of 665 full-time jobs saved. "That's impossible," a top Kankakee school official said, adding that the entire payroll -- full and part time -- is 600 workers."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/education/chi-education-stimulus-04-nov04,0,4659134.story

Obama knows that stupid liberals like Bob won't question anything that he does or says; this is why these sort of things happen. He knows that Bob will sit there and spin how you can "save" 382 jobs when it's 142 more than the district has in the first place. He knows Bob is just a paid whore who will do and support anything that Obama says as the gospel truth, and scream how Republicans and anyone else are hatemongering wingnut racists for daring to point out that Obama is wrong or to criticize him.

[Lala]

Zero is going to Stamford to a fund raiser for Chris Dodd. I think it's tonight.

[Rock]

The truth is, Liberals could give a rats tail about Americans Service men a women being killed, Code Pink and their type revel in the death of our Soldiers, and then protest at the funerals with disgusting slogans and banners to provoke grieving families. The only tragedy Liberals and their hero's see is that the shooter was not killed and is not now frolicking with his allocation of underage virgins. The left looks for a free ride on the back of others sweat and blood. If I might paraphrase the Reverend Wright, not God Bless Liberals but God Da&$ Liberals and the filth of their degenerate minds.

[Logic]

"For some of us, we might consider the Ft. Hood shootings to be a tragedy. Not the wing nuts. To them it's a golden opportunity to unite in more bitching and whining about Obama. So typical. You're using these deaths for cheap political posturing. Have you no shame?"

Sparkman anyone? You can step down off your soapbox. Amateur hour is over, and you missed your cab.

Obama is rumblin', fumblin', stumblin' his way through this presidency so far. He missed on Honduras, Russia, hell he missed on almost everything so far. For a man who was purportedly intelligent, he seems to be making a lot of mistakes. A tragedy like this is on the scale of drop everything and go.

I will take GWB's "7 minutes of stunned" to Obama's "gotta make a shoutout to my boys in the back row" crap any day of the week. We got campaigned to death on this man being such a professional, well where the hell is it?

[mark l.]

"For some of us, we might consider the Ft. Hood shootings to be a tragedy. Not the wing nuts."

c'mon...
the wh used it as an opportunity to plug healthcare. national audience, which was expected, and they still lead with healthcare?

please don't make insinuations about wing nut motives, when the wh has proven to be a "callous" and opportunistic in such a moment of tragedy.

[mark l.]

http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/reagan-challenger.htm

short, eloquent, and quite memorable.

[Rock]

Mark, great link, thanks

[mark l.]

some good news though, bob?

obama created hundred of new jobs last week...

think of all those gop staffers getting jobs in nj and va, along with the governorships. (and by stimulus math, those would be "jobs created".)

clearly the stimulus is working.

[Bob]

Looks like I hit a nerve. The volume of posts indicates that you recognize your own hypocrisy and are now furiously trying to deny it. The whining will continue until you've wrung enough faux outrage out of this "controversy," and then you'll be off to the next hissy fit. Anyway, I'm glad I could help you recognize your own phoniness and hypocrisy. Maybe some day you'll thank me for trying to keep you honest.

[Bob]

"And wow, even the Chicago papers that were such good worshipers of the Black Messiah are now starting to demonstrate that he, well.....LIES."

So it's "Black Messiah" now, eh, NDFBAAB? I think you're getting seriously pissed off now. Maybe it's time for you to don a little verbal black face and mock that arrogant SOB real good. Come on, let it rip. We know you want to and you're just INCHES away.

[mark l.]

"The volume of posts indicates that you recognize your own hypocrisy and are now furiously trying to deny it."
**************
"You're using these deaths for cheap political posturing."

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2009/11/president-raises-fort-hood-in.html

"President Obama invoked the Fort Hood shootings in an emotional appeal to Democrats to pass health care reform today, contrasting the sacrifices of soldiers with political positioning."

please bob, 'edjukate' us more about staying classy.

[Wil]

Bob
There's a big difference between hitting a nerve and explaining to the village idiot that well, he's an idiot . You,Bob, is known to be a village idiot and people who are much more mentally and emotionally mature than you want you to understand this fundamental truth. He is the Commander in Chief of the United States military and one of his basic duties is to go to Fort Hood and console the families of those who were killed and wounded in that assault privately without the media present. That is his job and not Camp David to take the weekend off.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

Does anyone else think you all give da boob WAAAY more attention than he deserves? Give Polly a cracker and cover his cage.

[Bob]

"You,Bob, is known to be a village idiot . . ."

And you, Wil, should be damned certain not to make really stupid grammatical mistakes in sentences calling other people idiots. Too hilarious.

[Ad rem]

Bob, smartest boy at Yeshiva......

[WAHOO WILLIE]

Damn bob, gotsta give you'ns props for dat one.

[Bob]

"Of course Obama didn't politicize it, Bob. There's golf to be played."
--Dan Riehl

Or maybe he had OTHER things to do, Dan:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/obama-awarded-two-purple-hearts-during-walter-reed-visit.php?ref=fpa

"President Obama spent nearly two hours this afternoon meeting privately with soldiers and their families at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

While there, he awarded two Purple Hearts, the White House said.

No press was allowed to witness the visit, but an administration staffer told the pool which accompanies the president when he leaves the White House that Obama "visited with 19 soldiers, three families of soldiers in the ICU, as well as hospital staff."

God, did you guys pick a bad couple of days to display your petty, clueless hypocrisy. Now let's see: Walter Reed Medical Center, "purple hearts" and "no press." Let's see if y'all can somehow manage to find fault with some aspect of this . . .

[O!]

Bob, thank you for that additional helping of Journolist/Axelturf talking point spam.

2010.

[christmasghost]

Bob...how many pieces of silver is Soros paying you to sit on your fat ass and post comments like this?
Get a clue Bob before someone uses the clue bat on you....

[mark l.]

president uses fort hood to argue for health care?

in all seriousness, i don't blame obama on this.
it's rahm's fault. the healthcare group at the wh is surprisingly fulfilling the same role as the WHIG(wh iraq group) under bush, only on a higher scale. it seems policy decisions are being gatekept by his healthcare group-

not a problem if the matters are related to healthcare, but a tad insane if they are bleeding into ALL his messaging. the same group is largely behind the push against fox. bambi isn't nixon, but he is surrounded by nixonian figures. (i have even seen the rehabilitation of chris lehane...)

it's pretty clear rahm can't juggle more than one ball at a time(although some may diagree ;). starting to look like he can't even be sure about the one ball he is working with...

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"....the WHIG(wh iraq group) under bush...."

Now THERE was GWs problem, he was trying to revive the Whigs!

Sometimes.....I crack myself up.

[Bob]

"Bob...how many pieces of silver is Soros paying you to sit on your fat ass and post comments like this?"

As I said in an earlier thread, do you really suppose that anyone in the liberal sphere considers you guys to be enough of a threat that they'd PAY someone to waste their time posting here? No, I just do this to marvel at the depth of pettiness and intellectual dishonesty among the teabagging crowd. But seriously, I like to see what you guys have when you're challenged to back it up with either coherent ideas, sincere principles or honest facts (not much, apparently). It's also a good way to learn about issues by debating with other people.

Even though it gets pretty snarky at times, I still don't hold any serious grudges against the regulars here. I'm just here for a discussion and a little give-and-take. And considering the extent to which some of the regulars can dish it out, I find their piteous complaints about me to be pretty hilarious sometimes.

[Old Trooper]

Bob, Obama only does Photo Ops. and Campaigns. Tell me You don't know the difference between gratitude and Humility and Narcissism and Sleazy Photo Ops. I can rest assured that Your Village is not missing it's Idiot.

[Auntie]

Screw you people! My neice is one of the injured at Fort Hood, I am a democrat, leftist, liberal, whatever you want to call me, and so is her mother,(my sister). You people are sick to politicize this, as if you "support" the military, well while you supposedly "support" it, our sons, daughters, neices, nephews, husbands, etc. are the ones who are actually in the military, while you claim to support the wars, our families are fighting in them! I am so sick of this! Our kids enlist to serve their country and to get an education, and all you do is put us down and have the nerve to say democrats (like myself) don't care, well F U all! Yes I am angry!

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"bambi isn't nixon, but he is surrounded by nixonian figures."

@ mark.... I think ideologically, Obie's crew make Tricky Dick's look like boy scouts. However in the ability category the Obamatons are the amateurs. Far too blatant and just short of wearing tailored uniforms and such. Tis unfortunate that Obie needs a dance card to know what to do from one event to another.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"well F U all! Yes I am angry!"

@auntie, not that you will be here long enough to read the following let me be the first to say "kiss my Irish A@@" You do not know anyone here, what they do or have done. You are an idiot with little or no knowledge about the situation at hand. There are at least three "regulars" here who have served in the military and supported our troops with treasure, blood and toil far beyond some three year enlistment. Speaking only for myself I have lost two friends in that sand box misadventure since June and I've had relatives there as well (home safe by grace). The young woman who stopped this muzzie terr is from VERY near my home which makes it a bit personal. Don't come in here talking your simple minded BS.....even DaBoob has more class than to denegrate anyone's service in here.

[O!]

Bob, thank you for that additional helping of Journolist/Axelturf talking point spam.

2010.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

@auntie again

BTW; Hope your neice is doing well and wishing a speedy recovery HuAhhh!

[X11B1P]

Auntie -Go take care of your niece, one would think you have "Family" things to do more important than defending a POS who never served, who is dithering while troops die, who supports terrorism and who looks at what happened at Ft. Hood and just another day in the Hood back on the block in Chicago. If in fact you are who and what you say you are, then bless your heart Auntie, becuse its people like you that embolden the terrorists like Hassan who shot your niece.