Fort Hood: What Radical Islamist?

As the LA Times carries the latest weak attempt to duck responsibility for their failure, officials insist there was no reason to suspect a threat from radical Islamist Nidal Malik Hasan.

Investigators are poring over numerous e-mails sent by Hasan to Anwar al Awlaki and apparently to other Islamist figures, said a federal law enforcement official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

But the official said that the information authorities had at the time did not suggest that Hasan -- a devout Muslim who was reportedly despondent over his scheduled deployment to Afghanistan -- was growing violent or was involved in "any terrorist planning or plotting."

Now, over to Instapundit for a particular word that caught my eye last night. It's from someone exposed to his presentations. Keyword "we". Evidently a room full of other officers should have been fully aware that there was something terribly wrong and it seems at least some were. But not the intelligence area? That terminology is an oxymoron at this point. 

“It was really strange,” said one staff member who attended the presentation and requested anonymity because of the investigation of Hasan. “The senior doctors looked really upset” at the end. These medical presentations occurred each Wednesday afternoon, and other students had lectured on new medications and treatment of specific mental illnesses. . . . The last bullet point on that page reads simply: “We love death more then (sic) you love life!”

Comments

[Elmo]

Key word: Doctors.

Some families raise plumbers, construction workers, teachers, musicians, blah blah. In my family, an impressive long list (uncles, cousins, brothers, in laws). Physicians all (I call it Jewish Professions Disease).

Needless to say. I never discuss politics.

[x11b1p]

Dan, if you get bored, and i doubt you do, look back into the Burmeister and Meadows race killings at Fort Bragg in the mid 90s and comapre the effort the US Army made then to ensure all radical racism was stomped out to its current efforts to stomp out radical islam, you were not even allowed to own a pair of Doc Martin boots and body art was inspected-just to ensure that you were not a secret skinhead back then. The fact that this guy had not 1 but 2 conversations with a known AQ affiliate is jaw dropping when considering 1) we are at war with AQ and 2) given this guys rank and position the potential for security breach while in Afghanistan or Iraq was high. It is the equivillant to being okay with soldiers today attending Klan rallies and being pen pals with the leader of the White Arian Brotherhood's HMFIC.

[x11b1p]

oh yea, the LA times was one of the biggest cheerleaders back then about how all of us in the military were a bunch of racists and the Army needed to stomp it out fast.

[Ran / Si Vis Pacem]

Interesting catch Dan. Will mainstream Islam ever seize the problem and adequately snuff it? I know one thing I'd do: Drill here, drill now, and chase Saudi trouble-makers. De-funding the jihad must be a priority.

Elmo - no kidding?! My in-laws are Greenwich CT Republican insiders who, both of them, voted for the Won. Mister even calls himself "a conservative" - but he bases that conceit on the precious thread of extending the Bush tax cuts. H-ll, they even spent Passover on vacation - guess where? Yep... the Pyramids. Right. No use discussing politics with them.

[Mark Turner]

Everyone is now is C-Y-A mode -- the people who knew he was a problem are saying "I told you so" and the people that didn't catch it are willfully in denial that it "wasn't terrorism" or some other B.S. trying not to impugn "diversity". It seems that this guy had more red flags around him than a Chinese military parade. If the military has gotten so politically correct that it can't weed out guys like him (isn't that what Section 8 is all about?), then it isn't any surprise that bin Laden is still on the loose and al-Qaeda keeps taking pot shots at us...they're probably getting intel from within our own ranks!

[templar knight]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought it was against the law to contact known al-Queda terrorists. Am I missing something here, or better yet, it seems the US military and intelligence community both turned a blind eye to this shitbag Hasan, and now dozens of families are destroyed because of it. Not counting the morale of all our soldiers. I have a son in the Army, and his take on this? The government doesn't give a shit about them. The damage this shitbird in the WH and his politically correct cronies like Gen. Casey has done to the Army can't be measured.

[Joe]

Poor grammar, even from a doctor, is inexcusable.

[Pasadena Phil]

Studying e-mails and memos? Why not test for a DNA link? A classic case of standing too close to see the elephant. Put away the microscopes and take a few steps back. Do you see it now?

[Captain Joe]

A Harvard grad, no doubt.

[Billy Whizz]

A couple of hours after the attack, I was watching Fox News and their ticker carried a statement from an FBI source that stated, quote, "Terrorism is not an issue, and is not even being discussed".

I see. What are our choices with this thinking (that continues to this moment)? Terrorism is ruled out as an open-mind is kept? Puh-lease. The fix was in right away. Who knew what and when?

NOW the story is he was doing research? Well, I'd like to know the title of this thesis. In fact, I'd like to see it. YOU ARE LYING.

I'd like to know what procedures exist, for anyone to contact an AQ shill, for "legitimate research": does anything have to be submitted in triplicate and approved? Yes? No? Is it simply forbidden as a matter of law or policy? LIARS.

I'd like to know what - if any - memos have passed from the White House on down about this man specifically, or this type of issue generally.

[x11b1p]

This is the same type of thinking and acting regarding terrorists that led to 9-11. I figured those days were gone, or we learned our lesson. I guess I was wrong, and sometimes I think that the lesson won't stick unless a liberal monument or place of reverance is destroyed and 3,000 or more people die as a result, then some might get it, however as long AQ attacks the military, capitalism, or a symbol of america as a whole, I really don't think many Americans care given the sides already taken on this issue.

[Eric Florack]

Well, look; Let's consider that the intel folks are working based on reports from officers like those in the room he mentions. Those officers are prevented from reporting common sense issues like this one by a culture that gives morons like Hasan, the ability to raise counter charges against any officer reporting his conduct as simply being 'biased', anti-Muslim, discriminatory, etc, and essentially end THEIR careers. And that includes the intel folks, lest we forget.

[templar knight]

Very true, Eric. Which is why we need a house cleaning, starting in the White House. I don't expect it to happen, mind you, it's what we need to happen. I've advised my son to get out of the Army as soon as possible. It's turning into a corrupt organization led by politically correct jerks like Casey. He had wanted to make it a career, but under this President, the military will either be a scapegoat or a tool of the Left. Neither one should fit into his plans. It's time to move on.

[mark l.]

so...
intelligence failures preceding 9/11 were on bush.

just wondering if the left will make the same argument against obama.

[North Dallas Thirty]

And look what Barack Obama supports and endorses being done to children at his Halloween party by the people he fully embraces.

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/09/obama-ally-code-pink-targets-children-of-military-families-for-psychological-abuse/

And how much does Barack Obama embrace them?

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/12/jodie-davis-code-pink-founder-obama-bundler-osama-apologist/

[WBestPresidentEver]

I can't get over what Chris (tingle up my leg) Matthews said. "It's not a crime to call Al Queda is it ? "

[WBestPresidentEver]

Here is the Chris Matthews video taking up for the murdering scumbag terrorist.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/11/09/matthews-ft-hood-suspect-warning-signal-thats-not-crime-call-al-qaida-it

[Elmo]

Posted by: Ran / Si Vis Pacem | Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 09:12 AM

I never bothered to re-register as a Repub, lo these now seven years, since I took me tootsies, and walked outta dee river denial (sure, could bite me in a primary). But I do get a real kick out of the mailers I receive, prior to each election (never one to pass up a good free laugh).

Though sadly (for real), did indeed lose a couple of longtime friends, when I came out the Elephant closet. That's a real test there. A true measure of men, and the depth of their character.

It's kinda the same continuum, regards Pharoah: He's so intelligent! Was the cry we heard from the mountaintops.

I wouldn't trust Obie to take out my garbage. Wash my car. Or even go get take-out (even with a platoon of Secret Service to read the menu to him).

He is however, good at what he does ... a traitor. Who is now actually, well and truly, destroying America. With zeal and enthusiasm.

DubBestPrezEvah ... Thanks for the link. Truth is stranger than fiction. The caliphate is here people. It is here.