What Is Israel Thinking? Not Much Of Obama

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The policy staff in Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's office has drawn up a

secret memo calling for a radical refocus of Israeli foreign policy toward the
developing world, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

According to sources, the foreign minister plans to bring the five-page preliminary policy paper to the ministry's senior professional staff in the coming days, to begin discussion on implementing what is being described as "guidelines for a whole new foreign policy."

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[Mad Monica]

Well, yeah. They'd best focus their foreign policy on covering their own arses, since our president obvious plans to throw them to the wolves. I think that'll be the most visible Obama legacy: Allies tossed to enemies as sacrifices for the Obama Love Fest.

If I was Israel there is no way I'd count on the U.S. for anything right now. In fact, I'd probably put the U.S. on a list of hostile nations.

[Reaganite Republican]

Since the Israelis are the target of an Iranian extermination plan, they cannot afford the luxury of a Pollyana, cafe-debate world view like Obama thinks is so modern.

But Israel can go-it-alone if she has to... the IDF probably has the military capacity already to not only bomb Iran, but win the wider Middle East war that is likely to result. Unlike vs. Hezbollah in 2006, the Israelis would fight this one to win, and win BIG... vs. Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, and the rump Hamas.

Team Obama would be well-advised to keep an eye on the horizon anytime they're visiting their new pals in Tehran... for a formation of Israeli F-16's coming-in at Mach 2. The IAF did us all a huge favor in 1983, taking out Saddam's reactor in the face of world condemnation, and they'll they'll take care of business again- Israel is used to such misguided moralizing.

A humiliating attack upon Tehran's crown-jewel nuclear program will likely topple this heinous regime... in other words, tiny Israel will be doing the job that our wormy president doesn't have the courage or moral clarity to do.

And Bibi will kick their a*s so hard they'll be wearing it for a hat

[JustOneMan]

Like Israel our own states need to develop their own plans for protection...

DHS strips Arizona sheriff of authority to patrol for illegal immigrants...

Napolitano puts US citizens...from her own state..at risk!

[MAS1916]

Israel also needs to refocus its mature alliances on those nations who will reliably provide arms and ammunition for the next time she is attacked. Obama will take three weeks to decide to support our best ally.

The Jewish state should start with France, as it seems the French now understand that an Iranian nuclear weapon would be targeted on Paris before it would be on Washington. As the Iranians want to ignite world wide muslim revolution, the easiest place to start that will be in Europe. France also knows that Obama would take until 2013 to decide to support Europe in such a conflict.

Israel is the front line in defense of western civilization. Israel needs to call in support in exchange for taking on that role. Unfortunately, Israel needs to prepare for the worst.

[Andrew X]

Far be it from me to defend this appalling foreign policy as a whole, but there is, I think, one salutory effect that I have been talking about, even since before our election.

Let us imagine a wealthy single parent of one or two 17 to 19 year-olds. Those two kids have the nice house, are well fed, sent to good schools, etc etc, and don't really have to work 'cause Daddy is rich.

So they spend their idle time passionately trying to make "a better world". You know, one where exploiters like their father don't take advantage of everyone else, where the forces that keep their father in check are strengthened, where they constantly can remind everyone else how hip they are by opposing him, and then, of course go home to that nice house for the summer, and back to that $50,000 a year tuition school in the fall, where they can to go to gender-studies classes and continue to agitate.

Then, Dad suddenly develops a severe mental illness. His earning power plummets. He can NOT take care of these two any more. It's not an ideological decision, like he's mad at them until they change their ways, etc. That can be argued around, eventually he may relent.

No.... he is sick. HE CANNOT help them. He's done. There is no choice or argument to be made, or begging to be done. That's the deal, live with that.

Gee, ya think these two quasi-hippies might suddenly start seeing the world in a different light? Ya think? Ya think maybe their priorities of taking to the streets with giant puppets might morph into priorities that are, Shall we say, differently aimed? Ya think the term "forced to grow up fast" might apply here?

And that, dear readers, is our world and our alliances in a nutshell.

And that "forced to grow up fast" thing, is not a bad effect overall. It ain't the reasons that Obama does what he does, but it is a positive development of it. Because this quasi-hippie contempt for liberty under, not just a US shield, but a conservative US shield, has gone on WAY too long. And now it is done.

Live with that.

[Andrew X]

(I should probably add that the state of Israel is not a country that is described above, but virtually every other US ally is. If this treatment of Israel is not a huge wake-up call for the rest, then the jig really is up for Western Civilization.)

[SacTownMan]

"France also knows that Obama would take until 2013 to decide to support Europe in such a conflict."

There is NO WAY Xerxes gets re-elected in 2012!

America has awaken from it's Pravda media inspired slumber and Jimmy Carter II is going to go down in flames in 2012!

He is hands down the "WORST" president in American history!!

[IslamoLlama]

The money quote:

"Creating [exaggerated] expectations as though it is possible to arrive [in the near term] at a comprehensive settlement ending the conflict could lead us once again to disappointment and frustration that will damage our relations with the United States and Europe and lead to a violent response from the Palestinians."

Shorter Foreign Minister Lieberman: "We refuse to budge on contested unlawful settlement expansion but... Hey! Look over there!"

I'm sure the Palestinians will be mollified to know that the bulldozers running over their houses in disputed territory will continue to trundle on, not because Israel officially supports it, but because the Foreign Ministry is more worried about policy with other nations.

And I'm sure the Israeli public will be comforted in the fact that, while Hezbollah radicals continue to fire rockets into Jerusalem, the Foreign Ministry is making big strides in a trade deal with Brazil.

Epic Israeli Government Fail in 5, 4, 3...

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Since the Israelis are the target of an Iranian extermination plan, they cannot afford the luxury of a Pollyana, cafe-debate world view like Obama thinks is so modern. --"

Livin' like it's 1969. How many wars does Israel have to win before people stop worrying that an increasingly Prozac middle east isn't going to sweep in and murder everyone in their sleep.

Did you completely miss the fight in Lebanon a couple of years back? They devastated half a nation over the capture of three soldiers. What, exactly, do you think Iran is going to do? A half-baked missile strike by the Iranian military would be a suicide note. Everyone on all sides knows it. What is your obsession with this nonsense?

Oh... oh wait. You've been watching FOX News, haven't you? Glenn Beck have another pro-Israel screaming, crying mental collapse? Hannity go into another one of his "Liberals hate everything!" tirades? I see. I see. Well, just sit back in your rocker, grandpa, and don't worry your pretty old head about it.

[southdakotaboy]

Here is the thing that you are not willing to even except as a possibility IslamoLlama. The leaders of Iran might be very willing to be totally wiped out just so they could get rid of Israel for religious reasons. It is a simple as that. They think they are on a mission from their god to wipe out the Jews and so anything and everything is on the table. They don't care about this world since it is only short term, they are wanting their rewards in the after life. They are "thinking longterm".

To dismiss this possiblity is the truely suicidal idea.

[LotsDirtyDaughter]

you, islamollama, you are what makes one "obsessed" with the "nonsense". your very real desire to see israel fail, and to argue that israel no longer has a very real security threat, and that we should leave her to fend for herself, is what makes us (and those at FOX news) worried.

and, i'm sorry, aren't suicidal gestures of violent hate the arab forte? that they would get nothing out of it, except the satisfaction of destruction, would be no cause for hesitation for iran. you are being as naive as obama.

i have a affluent, well-educated friend (a totally assimilated arab-american)who would like nothing better than iran to do it, and there be that massive arab uprising. he has said that outright, and he hardly comes off as an islamic fundamentalist, just an IT guy you work with. one can imagine the convictions of one more extreme than him.

you seem to think that conservatives are old, and when that generation is gone, you'll have your way. huh. i'm 30. and i am not going anywhere, and your dear obama will produce alot more of me by the time he is done.

[Anon]

Iran has not attacked another country in several hundred years and the idea that they would launch a missle attack on Israel is pure right wing fantasy.

[Southern Values]

Here’s the thing I don’t understand. Israel is a nuclear power with significant delivery / military projection capability. I’m not a historian, but I believe they have not lost a military conflict. In the good old days of the Cold War, we used Israel as a proxy and the large sums of aid we have annually provided her were money well spent. Since the end of the Cold War, as an American trying to keep America safe, I’m not sure we are getting our monies worth. If one use of aid is to influence the policies of the receiving nation, why would American not want to settle the Palestinian issue consistent with America’s goals? And in this case, with Israel militarily capable of taking care of herself, the American interest is to get assistance from the vast majority of non-fundamentalist Muslims to help fight the radical Muslims.

And this is where I’ll lose most of my audience on this site, if I haven’t already. I’ve seen posts from quite a few who sincerely believe, at the very religious core, that Islam and the people who practice it are evil and inherently radical. Unfortunately, this fundamentalist belief is the same passionate and unbending world view of those radicals.

[North Dallas Thirty]

"Iran has not attacked another country in several hundred years"

You'd better tell them that, then.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXD9fCxRQ2.c&refer=home

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=11082490-3e4a-481c-9765-2e11f294f4ad

[Southern Values]

North – I read the articles you linked to. The common thread was the Shia form of Islam. It seems the root cause is radical religion. Maybe religion is the problem.

[anon]

The fact still stands that Iran has not attacked another country in several hundred years. They fund several radical proxy groups that can and do cause much damage, but it isn't the same thing.

The allegation is that Iran might invade/attack Israel, and that is nonsense.

[Xiaoding]

"They don't care about this world since it is only short term, they are wanting their rewards in the after life. They are "thinking longterm".

To dismiss this possiblity is the truely suicidal idea."

EXACTLY what the Soviets said about our Christian Generals.

[Southern Values]

I’m still waiting for you patriots to justify any position pro Israel that is not in America’s best interest. As I stated in a previous post, Israel is not in military danger and we don’t need them as a proxy in our Cold War fight. And please don’t rest your argument on Biblical prophecy or anti-Semitism.

As an American, I am looking out for American interests. I don’t see settlements or other hard line positions from the Israeli right as being in America’s interests. If they don’t care to sort things out with their neighbors, then they own the results. We should not fund Israel, which I believe is the single largest recipient of US aid, for this undemocratic stance. If they want to perpetuate a 2000 year old struggle, maybe that’s their prerogative. If you want US aid, do what’s in the best interest of the US. If not, you’re on your own. America first.