I Don't Get No Respect

Geez. The Pandagon blog is none too happy over our little Tweet meet. All I did was ask why the Left suddenly seems to want to ignore the Bill Sparkman case given there being the possibility that he was gay. Key word possibility, but this AP report is a little strange.

I pointed out that, if indeed he was gay, which we don't know, this may have been a hate crime. But I guess the thought of a gay man who also liked to be around children a good part of the time is too frightening an idea for them to entertain. Sounds like they have a little homophobia worked into the usual heterophobia that goes on over there.

Or, maybe liberals just don't like anyone who stands on their own.

I always do my best to get along with everyone, but that's what sets conservatives apart. If the Left can't put you into a pre-defined viktum's group, they just don't have much use for you at all. Shame.

What you must realize at this point is that Dan Riehl is officially the Worst Person At Being A Disingenuous Asshole on the face of the planet.  By pointing out that Riehl again called Sparkman a pedophile, I’ve actually fallen into his double secret trap of excusing homophobia because...well, I’m sure the guy who equated potentially being gay with raping children will soon instruct me on the ways of tolerating gay people.

Comments

[Jesse Taylor]

Every time I think you can't be any worse of a human being, you start typing and prove me wrong. Well done, young Dickawan. Well done.

[Dan Riehl]

That'll teach you not to mis-underestimate me! ; )

[Lala]

One of the crime blogs started out with questions as to whether he was killed because he was a census taker, then they went on to whether he was killed by drug dealers. They have more or less dismissed these two theories and are now wondering if he was gay and why he was so interested in being around children.

[Janet]

You truly are a homophobe. Gay men are no more likely to abuse children than straight men are.

[pd]

Dan, your lack of self-awareness is astounding.

I mean, I can't believe you are serious. The reason know one else agrees with you is not because you're some lone voice, shining a light on this unreported story. The reason know one agrees with you is because your theory is idiotic. It is patently stupid. It ignores all of the available evidence while rabidly speculating on insignificant facts and making ludicrous leaps in logic to draw an even more outrageous conclusion.

To your credit, at least you've stopped hinting at it and outright admitted that your grand unifying theory Sparkman death theory is that maybe (just maybe) Sparkman was gay and since he was around kids, the two together automatically make him a child molester - which has something to do with how he died.

Did I get it right?

[pd]

Lala - which crime blog?

[Lala]

pd - websleuths

[Vynotagoose]

"Or, maybe liberals just don't like anyone who stands on their own. "

Or maybe adults don't like jerks who smear dead people, based on nothing, who aren't around to defend themselves.

If you belt an old lady liberals won't like that, either. And you can call that "being your own man" or something. Any two bit putz can find an excuse to act like two bit putz.

"I always do my best to get along with everyone, but that's what sets conservatives apart. If the Left can't put you into a pre-defined viktum's group, they just don't have much use for you at all. Shame."

And a cheesy, dishonest Manners Troll, too.

Poor wee "viktum" Right-winger! Let's have a pity party for you!

[Bill Sparkman]

Dear Dan are you seriously saying that I am a gay child rapist or are you just tyring to get traffic?

[Ragin' Dave]

You truly are a homophobe. Gay men are no more likely to abuse children than straight men are.

Then I eagerly await hearing about all the little girls who were sexually abused by those pedophile priests.

[Captain Joe]

I don't think we can call it an accident. The "Fed" and ID card rule that out. So it's either a suicide or a murder. Prolly a suicide by a failed homosexual. His mother knows her formerly curly boy was that way.

[L'Ocutus]

Get along with everybody?! Give it up Dan. Until you grovel and apologize to Glenn Beck for your thoroughly vicious, envious and utterly retarded attack on him, no one in the populist Right is going to trust you.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/riehl-comes-not-to-praise-glenn-beck-but-to-bury-him/

Watch Dan get spanked by over 350+ commentators!

[Vynotagoose]

Another one - you can't be serious.

"Then I eagerly await hearing about all the little girls who were sexually abused by those pedophile priests">

You're "eager", are you?

Try Google, you ignorant fool.

"Thousands of newly released personnel files show that the Archdiocese of Boston went to great lengths to hide priests accused of abuse, including clergy who allegedly snorted cocaine and had sex with girls aspiring to be nuns."

Link below, I hope.

Bigoted AND ignorant is no way to go through life.

[Whippet]

Sounds like some LGFers are breaking out of their echo chamber long enough to pass their vile on to others...Is that you Kilgore?

[Captain Joe]

All the perv priests were homos. All LGFers are homo priests.

[Whippet]

LGFers have their own religion- Atheism.

[Dan Riehl]

I really don't get where the Left is getting the homophobe nonsense from. a) he may have been gay b) he liked to spend a great deal of time around children. That's atypical for all adult males. If he seemed stright, there'd be just as much reason to speculate as to his potential motivations.

Given the circumstances of his death, I think there's at least some reason to speculate as to whether he got involved with someone who was a bit of a sicko. That someone may have also been gay, or perhaps bi-sexual, or omni-sexual, for all we know.

Being bound and restrained as he was, to a tree, not hung, could very well have been part of some sex game gone very bad, as he fell in with the wrong person - IE some nut.

That one investigator referenced the Carradine case caused me to wonder if there were signs of sexuial release from the autopsy. Yes, it could have been auto-erotic asphyxiation. But it could ahve been a kinky scene gone very bad after his satisfaction.

While there are not enough facts to prove anything, there is reason for this speculation, whether the Left, or his son, like it, or not.

No one is suggesting anything can be proven right now. But if they're looking for a suspect, they might try Lexington, said to be home base for a homosexual community in the region.

More or less undergound communities do have a tendency to draw in some very bad people. Again, that's just a fact. Not a judgment on homosexuals over all. Deal with it, queenie!! ; )

[x11b1p]

dan, i hope i can retrieve some of these posts on this story later, especialy if things turn out odder than they are in this case as it unfolds. I would love to use some of these posts here when speculation about palin arises when the attack campaign goes back into full mode against her (some time around the release of her book). nothing like burning someone with their own words. i dont agree with you on some things, however, after following you for a while i can tell the diff b/t your opinion, a statement you make about fact, probative statements and specualtion intended to create contradiction in one's mind and plain old traffic getting shit talking statements. also where are all the unemplyed journalists on this story, its not like papers aren't calling for a bail out.

[Whippet]

You've got some real hate being thrown at you right now...you must have touched a nerve. But then again they don't want anyone to discover the real truth of the death, unless it reveals a right-wing extremist! Of course, you aren't allowed to speculate on the possibilities but they are sooooo sure a right-winger killed him.

It's getting nastier and nastier out there.....

[Whippet]

Charles is mastering the art of projection!

403 Charles
Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:42:51pm replyquote 6downupreport

Dan Riehl proves again that he's in the running for the creepiest, most ugly-minded right wing blogger on the web, with a comment on his latest smear job (yes, he's still at it):

I really don't get where the Left is getting the homophobe nonsense from. a) he may have been gay b) he liked to spend a great deal of time around children. That's atypical for all adult males. If he seemed stright, there'd be just as much reason to speculate as to his potential motivations.

Given the circumstances of his death, I think there's at least some reason to speculate as to whether he got involved with someone who was a bit of a sicko. That someone may have also been gay, or perhaps bi-sexual, or omni-sexual, for all we know.

Being bound and restrained as he was, to a tree, not hung, could very well have been part of some sex game gone very bad, as he fell in with the wrong person - IE some nut.

That one investigator referenced the Carradine case caused me to wonder if there were signs of sexuial release from the autopsy. Yes, it could have been auto-erotic asphyxiation. But it could ahve been a kinky scene gone very bad after his satisfaction.

While there are not enough facts to prove anything, there is reason for this speculation, whether the Left, or his son, like it, or not.

No one is suggesting anything can be proven right now. But if they're looking for a suspect, they might try Lexington, said to be home base for a homosexual community in the region.

More or less undergound communities do have a tendency to draw in some very bad people. Again, that's just a fact. Not a judgment on homosexuals over all. Deal with it, queenie!! ; )

Posted by: Dan Riehl - Sunday, October 04, 2009 at 12:27 AM

[Dan Riehl]

Chucky Cheesey is running amok. I'd like to see the actual logs from that open registration he's running every few days, unlike he once did. I think he's claimng dozens of now snapdoodles joining up every time. Guess they register just to read?

Or maybe it's the pics of the ocean in between tirades against his old friends. Sad.

[syn]

My friends and I were profiled at a NYC lesbian bar; I could get in, my black friend could get in however the white guy could not. On another occasion, black friend was allowed in a gay bar however I was not. I went to LIPS in NYC where there is offered The Mens Room and The Other Room, how funny is THAT!

Gay does not have exclusive rights to everything just because they throw around the word homosexual; I have tolerated the 'never having to go up that dirty vagina again' jokes for the last time. I am done with the superiority complex of gaydom.

Gay wants to be exclusive queenies above all other political identity groupings, knock yourselves out however stop with oppressed crap, it's obnoxious.

[Vynotagoose]

Stupid RW tricks. A new one to add to this mess.

"You're being rightly catigated for being an obnoxious putz, making irresponsible and creepy guesses about a dead man who was beloved by his family and friends, and for seeing things that aren't there" (thinking it's weird for a guy to have a nickname or be a Scout leader, for a start.).

"..so you musta hit a nerve with libbies!!" HAHA!"

Logic follows that if we were crass enough to say it's only ..possible..(*wink*) that a certain RW blogger is a closeted gay man and a pedophile who's projecting ..that would be OK. Or if people objected it's because we "hit a nerve".

And he'd be alive to defend himself. Unlike Sparkman. And I just noticed this, which I thought haed been written by a passing troll but no -- it's Riehl, playing more like the fool .

" But if they're looking for a suspect, they might try Lexington, said to be home base for a homosexual community in the region."

As a possibly (hey, I said "possible!") closeted queen, he would know that.

"More or less undergound communities do have a tendency to draw in some very bad people. Again, that's just a fact. . "

Wow, so true!!

So the fringe Right, like Riehl could have committed the murder. (I only said "could". So it's cool.) Again, that's just a fact. Not a judgment on far right-wingers.

HEY, this spectulating thing is FUN!! And so easy a child could do it.

[Jake Scully]

Riehl is the equivalent of the host of this recent Onion clip.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/crime_reporter_finds_way_of?utm_source=a-section

[Jesse Taylor]

See, here's the problem, Dan.

I'm guessing that somewhere in your home is a Flock of Seagulls album. Based on the available evidence, either you got it as a joke gift for your birthday a few years ago, or it was something you got robbing and murdering drag queens up and down the East Coast during the late 80s.

I really don't have strong evidence either way, so it would be completely irresponsible of me not to repeatedly advance the theory that it's a perverse trophy from your murder spree.

[Whippet]

These attacks on you are hilarious! And so typical of the demonization of anyone in disagreement that is happening on the left.

You speculate about possible motives, one about the possibility of the victim being gay and "how dare you!" So the libs come here and accuse you of being gay. So which is it? I thought the libs were supposed to be so tolerant of gays? So wouldn't calling you gay then be a compliment? Not so with the left. As with most liberals, the tolerance is for perception only. They are the first to use these minority groups as a means to an end and then throw them under the bus when they've served their purpose.

[Jesse Taylor]

You speculate about possible motives, one about the possibility of the victim being gay and "how dare you!" So the libs come here and accuse you of being gay. So which is it? I thought the libs were supposed to be so tolerant of gays?

Ah, I get it. You don't understand what's going on here. People are trying to demonstrate how stupid the thing Dan just said was by applying it to him.

It's like how you teach second graders not to hit people by making them think how they'd feel if they were hit, except that second graders are apparently capable of learning.

[Whippet]

Ah, now the "I'm smart and others who don't agree with me are stupid claim." Do you people take classes to learn this crap or are you just naturally so self involved? I'd say it's primarily the latter.

I wonder how intellectual you will all feel when you wake up one day and realize that you've been used with the rest of them. Then you'd have to ask yourselves how all those stupid right-wing rednecks figured it out so soon? Nah, that won't happen. That would take some good old common sense to figure out and who needs that when you're an intellectual elitist?

[gary gulrud]

"Worst Person At Being A Disingenuous Asshole"

With the caveat that my childhood nickname was "Gullible", I'd say Dan is quite good at this and fools me all the time.

[Joan in Juneau]

I do not know any more than Dan seems to as to what happened in the Sparkman case but I will say (using the 2nd Grade lesson) that if it had been me that had been killed that if all the commentors here were investigators that Dan would be one of those I would want on the case. Not because I think he is correct in his assumptions, just not enough facts yet, but at least he is willing to think outside the box and look at all possible angles whether they fit in the boxes others seem to not want to step out of. Not sure why people find labels and boxes so important these days to be honest...The way I see it is at least Dan is using his noggin and not just accepting all the drivel he has read in the paper as fact, which some has already been disproved, so what else in those reports is wrong or has been left out? Sometimes the truth may not be pretty or fit with our agenda but at least it is the truth and that is what matters.

[Captain Joe]

Sparkman's myspace
http://www.myspace.com/billsmath101

[jpc]

If only the killer(s) of Nicole Brown Simpson & Robert Goldman had thought to write something like "N-LVR" on Nicoles chest, OJ Simpson could have saved some miles on the white Bronco, he would have never had to go to trial, and he would still have career/social viability. At least, using the logic model demonstrated by the ones promoting the anti-government/right-wing inspired violence theorists. Or, if I was accused of a crime, I would want those types on my jury - any half-ass defense lawyer could run past them real quick.

Dan, I have to admit that I was a little taken back by the child molester possibility, but at least the nature of the conversation took a much needed turn from all of the obsessive opinionating about how this is directly or indirectly connected to tea parties, racism, right-wing media, etc. & has opened to the possibility that until all the facts are assembled, there is more than one possibility.

Put another way, sometimes when a stubborn mule won't obey commands, you have to break a two-by-four over it's head to get it's attention. Your original Sparkman post was that two-by-four. There might be a few mules out there that need another whack, but I think Robert Stacy McCain is out there finding them.

[Graphictruth]

You know, it's possible for people who are generally accepting of diverse opinions, lifestyles and particular sexual orientations to still notice that a *particular* asshole is *offensively* stinky.

May I suggest that a quick trip to the mental bidet might be profitable?

[Gary]

One shudders to think how many crimes may go unsolved due to political correctness. If investigators' behavior is being influenced and shaped by the attitudes of some posting here, they're severely limiting their crime solving potential.

And let's not forget who "started it". It was those who saw nothing wrong with seriously speculating that Michelle Bachman or Glenn Beck and/or the "Teabaggers" are more than likely responsible for the mindset of whomever committed the murder.

[Rick Diehl]

You have come up with several rather extreme theories about Mr. Sparkman's death.

Do you have any evidence at all to back up your suggestions?

You might just be speculating, but without any actual proof, you are going to end up looking like you are talking out of your ass.

[Lala]

Did the police delay searching for Miss Le of Yale because they were thinking "runaway bride?"

[Whippet]

Geesh,

"You have come up with several rather extreme theories about Mr. Sparkman's death.

Do you have any evidence at all to back up your suggestions?

You might just be speculating, but without any actual proof, you are going to end up looking like you are talking out of your ass."

Do you know what a theory is?

Do you know what speculating is?

Apparently not.

[Hyman Roth]

"Gay men are no more likely to abuse children than straight men are"

Says who? Where are the stats to back up that claim, and how were they compiled? It sounds like a complete fabrication, born of liberal wishful thinking.

"Or maybe adults don't like jerks who smear dead people, based on nothing, who aren't around to defend themselves."

Like insults directed at Ronald Reagan, Vynotagoofball?