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They can engineer a CRE bailout, but eventually the piper will be paid. Paraphrasing Tim Knight, when the dot.Gov bubble bursts it's going to make the dot.com and housing bubbles look like small time.

As an aside, it is instructive as to the cause of the crash last year to note that although the residential real estate and commercial real estate markets are joined at the hip economically and use most of the same lenders, only the residential market saw the explosive boom and consequent bust while the commercial market merely followed behind. The only major difference between the two markets is that the government intervened in 60%-70% of residential mortgages to encourage more lending at higher risk. The commercial real estate market by contrast operated almost entirely free of any government intervention.

The fact that the commercial real estate market is only starting to falter now more than a year and a half after the residential market took down the entire economy proves rather conclusively that it was the accumulation of 30 years of government pressure and incentives to make ever increasingly risky loans in the residential market. If the "greed" of the free-market was to blame, we should expect to see the opposite pattern i.e. the unregulated market without government intervention and incentives should have boomed larger and crashed first. It didn't, so free-market mechanisms and actors are not to blame.

Not that people who reflexively blame the free market will admit this.

Judging from CRE overcapacity (much of this being yet under construction), and the number of idiots who have been bragging about the money they've made flipping buildings over the last several years, this is inevitable.

Making money on property flips is like winning big at blackjack - once someone makes a big score, common sense goes out the window. I know at least a half dozen people who were real-estate high-rollers one year, and living in Mom's basement the next.

Forgive me if this question is naive, but I keep reading about a commercial real estate crash and I never hear this asked.

Isn't the answer to a commercial real estate crash lower commercial rents? Aren't lower commercial rents good for all kinds of businesses?

A commercial real estate crash is bad for landlords and banks. Isn't it good for everybody else?

Lower commercial rents are happening, and increasing some demand for product. Unfortunately, many of the property owners owe money on these properties that has to be repaid. As rents go down, paying their debts becomes harder and harder. For many, there comes a time when they simply cannot pay and then the property goes into foreclosure. I do real estate research in Las Vegas, where we currently have over 5,000,000 square feet of commercial real estate that is distressed or in default.

I can also comment that the major boom did also occur in commercial real estate, at least in Las Vegas. Demand for space skyrocketed in 2005, leading to major increases in development in 2006, just as demand began to fall. This overbuilding, caused by easy money from the banks and an attitude of "if you build it, they will come", has exacerbated the problems the LV commercial real estate market would have already faced from the recession.

The commercial foreclosure tsunami is hitting now and will probably get worse. Ultimately, this will lead to revaluations of both land and commercial properties, which is necessary to get things back into equilibrium, but it means some tough times ahead for the folks who threw the dice and lost.

Many will ask "Why won't the lenders just extend the loans on projects that are still cash flowing?" The answer is that the values have gone down, and a loan that was 65% LTV when it was made in 2005 is now a 100% LTV loan, and unfinanceable from the lender's underwriting standpoint. Lots of projects will be given backto the lendxers, which will flood the sales market and further depress values. Everybody needs to buckle their seatbelts.

Rents have been declining since last two years. This is a big issue and some action has to be taken about it. Thanks for the info. Roy Peter- Real Estate Finance

Commercial real estate activity has suffered from a severe credit crunch for commercial sectors, sustained job losses and weak consumer spending, although the decline appears to be slowing.
I've been searching for documents about real estate and I found this site: Yellow documents, they've a lot of document types from different subjects.
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Your source is not particularly reliable. The price indices reported here

http://web.mit.edu/cre/research/credl/rca.html

indicate that a crash in commercial real estate prices has already occurred, with declines in the markets assessed approaching 40%. The question at hand is where the precise bottom of the market is.

Your source also reports outstanding commercial real estate debt at $3.4 tn dollars. The Federal Reserve reports that commercial banks are carrying about $1.7 tn of commercial real estate loans on their books and the Office of Thrift Supervision reports that the institutions they regulate are carrying ~$85 bn in commercial real estate loans. Credit Unions do not offer commercial real estate loans. The commonly cited figure for the value of mortgage backed securities issued with reference to commercial real estate loans is $700 bn. There is thus about $2.5 tn of commercial real estate debt outstanding, not $3.4 tn. There is in excess of $14 tn in residential mortgage debt outstanding.

We're already expecting that commercial foreclosures would explode in some moment. Now we must act, plans must be made to fight them!

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