Never Forget, Never Surrender, Never Forgive

NEVER!

And as for this whole national service day nonsense ... service this.

Neo-liberalism is a moral sickness. I swear it is.

Comments

[Ad rem]

To be a Democrat is to exhault in "victimhood"......

[SDN]

Dan, that attempt to reframe this is just something Socialists have always done.

Rudyard Kipling, 1930:

Memories
1930

"The eradication of memories of the Great War. -SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT ORGAN

The Socialist Government speaks:

THOUGH all the Dead were all forgot
And razed were every tomb,
The Worm-the Worm that dieth not
Compels Us to our doom.
Though all which once was England stands
Subservient to Our will,
The Dead of whom we washed Our hands,
They have observance still.

We laid no finger to Their load.
We multiplied Their woes.
We used Their dearly-opened road
To traffic with Their foes:
And yet to Them men turn their eyes,
To Them are vows renewed
Of Faith, Obedience, Sacrifice,
Honour and Fortitude!

Which things must perish. But Our hour
Comes not by staves or swords
So much as, subtly, through the power
Of small corroding words.
No need to make the plot more plain
By any open thrust;
But-see Their memory is slain
Long ere Their bones are dust!

Wisely, but yearly, filch some wreath-
Lay some proud rite aside-
And daily tarnish with Our breath
The ends for which They died.
Distract, deride, decry, confuse-
(Or-if it serves Us-pray!)
So presently We break the use
And meaning of Their day!

[Bob Dole]

Neo-Liberalism means different things to different people, outside the US it means you believe in free markets, for example.

[USMC]

Just call them Progressives. That is what they call themselves and per Rasmussen that word is starting to become a dirty word! The day will come when gonorrhea will be more acceptable than this filthy, demonic Progressive ideology. It's going down!

[Bob]

"And as for this whole national service day nonsense ... service this.

Neo-liberalism is a moral sickness. I swear it is."

How shameful to take a tragic event that affected all Americans equally and turn it into a cheap excuse for petty partisan attacks against liberals. Wing nuts don't own 9/11. It's not your private property.

Now I know, Dan, that your mission is just to incite hatred. It's basically all you ever do. And what a shame that with you, literally, nothing is sacred and apparently, nothing goes too far. You're really out of control. But what a shame that you have to desecrate the memory of the 9/11 tragedy and try to claim it for partisan advantage. What a shameful and disgraceful thing to try to do on the anniversary of that event.

[Old Grouch]

"With you, literally, nothing is sacred and apparently, nothing goes too far. You're really out of control. But what a shame that you have to desecrate the memory of the 9/11 tragedy and try to claim it for partisan advantage. What a shameful and disgraceful thing to try to do on the anniversary of that event."

Just what he's saying. Glad you agree.

[Lala]

Why do we need two days of service? We already have MLK day of service.

http://www.mlkday.gov/

[Lala]

The o's honored the dead by painting

http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/09/obama-observes-national-day-of-service.html

[North Dallas Thirty]

"How shameful to take a tragic event that affected all Americans equally and turn it into a cheap excuse for petty partisan attacks against liberals."

Actually, no, it didn't affect all Americans equally.

For conservatives and Republicans, it was a tragic day, the result of uncontrolled and unconfronted fanaticism and hate that cost thousands of lives.

For the liberal "little Eichmanns" faction and the Obama "God damn America" Party, it was a day of joy and celebration, where they could once again join with their fellows overseas and tut-tut about how the United States "got what it deserved" and how those evil corporatists and capitalists deserved to die.

[Lala]

On 9/12/2001 I got an email from a liberal declaring that "the chickens have come home to roost."

[Bob]

"Just what he's saying. Glad you agree."

So let me see if I understand: we're supposed to use the memory of the 9/11 attacks -- which were perpetrated by hateful, violent extremists -- as an occasion to celebrate our own hatred, or something? And that trying instead to emphasize the spirit of community service -- of helping other Americans in a time of crisis -- is supposed to be a bad thing? As one article put it:

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20090911911_kin_find_solace_in_national_service_day/srvc=home&position=1

“On 9/11, so many people came forward to do so many good things,” said Cindy McGinty, whose 42-year-old husband, Mike, was killed in the World Trade Center. “That’s what I would like the day to generate again.”

In that spirit, relatives of many Bay State victims will taken part not only in memorial services, but also community service projects, including a walk today on the Rose F. Kennedy Greenway to benefit soldiers and their families."

Yeah, f*#% those soldiers and their families. We can't have any community service projects for THEM on 9/11. Our nation should celebrate hatred, divisiveness and cheap politics instead of doing anything helpful and positive. After all, we have to aspire ourselves to be as much like the 9/11 hijackers as possible, according to wing-nut logic.

[Rich K]

Proving again that bob and most all progressive minds think alike and claim its all about, as he puts it,'hate,division and cheap politics'.
For a group that claims it won they sure do have a lot of vitriol for anything said about simply remembering the day for what it was.Why not make the 12th the day for all the healing and community service bob? Or would that simply not do in the world of 'newspeak'?

[Old Grouch]

"For a group that claims it won, they sure do have a lot of vitriol for anything said about simply remembering the day for what it was."

Perhaps they don't wish to recall their OWN conduct back then:

"There were about a dozen of us in the room. One... was a faculty member in the history department. As he watched the news, his only comment was this:

“I wonder if the president is crying to his daddy?”

He smiled after saying this, as though he’d said something clever. I wanted to punch the son of a bitch in the face. It was at that moment that I realized: to some the day's horrors meant little other than simply being a political club to use against an administration they had already decided to hate." source

"Three memories:

-- In an online forum that afternoon, some jackass pontificating that of course Flight 93 had really been shot down, and the story about the passengers fighting back was a lie, and pitying us fools for swallowing that obvious lie.

-- My wife overhearing two college students saying of the dead that "they were just a bunch of lawyers and accountants anyway..."

-- The college where we were living holding a peace vigil that night, with speakers denouncing a military response." source

"Since the contested election in November and his coronation by the Supreme Court, George W. Bush, first, ignored the suffering of the Palestinians in the Middle East, then urged Israelis and Palestinians to settle their differences by leaving Ariel Sharon to pursue a policy of non-negotiation and state assassinations. When the world, at the U.N. conference in Durban, focused the bankruptcy of our policy, the delegations of both Israel and the United States walked out, rather than deal. ... How can we fail to see our policy has created zealots and suicide bombers, willing to attack us in our own skies, on our own soil?" - Massachusetts Daily Collegian, 09/12/2001source

"'I'm so mad' she mumbled. She was literally red faced and trembling, with her teeth clenched.

I nodded and asked 'because of the World Trade Center?'

She shook her head and answered 'Because of Bush getting us into war.'" source

"I was listening to C-SPAN Radio on the short drive home, and I vividly recall one caller who said, in high dudgeon, that this was all because George W. Bush had been "se-LEC-ted" to be President." source

"Here in Massachusetts our empty suit governor, Deval Patrick, yesterday called the attacks "a failure of love and understanding." On 9/11. On 9/11." source

"When the United flight fell to the ground and the news carried word to us one of our team began loudly declaring that it had been shot down. When I said "You don't know that," he began to argue with me and scream that it was the government doing it. I can remember walking away shaking my head and thinking that there could never be enough "proof" to counter that type of arguement, let alone support his." source

[Bob]

"For a group that claims it won they sure do have a lot of vitriol for anything said about simply remembering the day for what it was."

Who's not remembering the day for what it was? Are conservatives so bereft of honest principles that they have to make up shit about their political opponents just to have something to whine about? Obama himself was there at the Pentagon to duly note the tragedy itself on the anniversary. Is that somehow mutually exclusive with appreciating the many brave and kind acts of Americans helping each other at a time or crisis? The pettiness and mean-spiritedness of so many right wing extremists really IS disgraceful.