My Friend Patrick Misses The Point

Via Instapundit:

“What I don’t understand is the absurd analysis by old media types that the Van Jones resignation is a victory for the ‘open sewer’ of Internet ‘disinformation.’ Van Jones’ comments were objectively vile.

But that's just it, for our allegedly objective media, they weren't. What was vile was that opponents of Obama elevated them and wouldn't let it go. To the media, it was simply acceptable political discourse we were making too much fuss over. It wasn't as if he wanted to see Obama's birth certificate, or anything outrageous like that. He only advocated race war, 9/11 trutherism, inadvertently or not, and communism for the United States. Now, that birth certificate stuff ... that's evil, racist and unhinged. (Note: I do not push the birther conspiracy. It's a waste of time).

See Breitbart for more, also via Glenn:

What other major stories are they missing — or sitting on? Stay tuned . . . .

They're out there, or so I hear. heh!

Comments

[Banjo]

The MSM still adheres to a business model that sees them the gatekeepers. Any news or information not originated or cleared by them according to some ideological or proprietary formula they possess is by definition illegitimate and therefore ignored until the dam buckles. Then comes the inevitable belittling of the source: "right wing" "conservative critics say," etc. One assumes the younger members of the MSM know this. It must be the older, grayer liberals who have trouble letting go.

[ldm]

Any damn fool can tell the truth - if you want power, get people to believe lies. And lies by omission work just as well as lies by commission.

Big Media figured this rule out a long time ago.

[Gary Maxwell]

This one was simple in its analysis. The big three networks are watching as their viewers migrate nightly to Fox, and they did not wish to hand a victory to Fox and Beck. NYT has a history of not telling its dwindling readership the full story. WaPo is bit tougher to explain, except Katherine Graham was selling access to the Obama administration for awhile until it became a little too hot in the kitchen for what remained of their journalistic integrity ( is there such a thing these days?).

[syn]

I, myself, have avoided the birth certificate issue since I previously felt comfortable about the 'vetting process' of politicians however after this Van Jones fiasco I have to wonder how this person managed to get past the FBI checks; at this point I do not trust the vetting process.

As for the birth certificate(s), why just this morning I saw the other birth certificate from Kenya(signed, stamped and with a cute baby footprint) which is attached to an affidavit (which also describes how the certificate was obtained) recently filed in Southern California.

My only question on this issue, how is it possible to have two birth certificates-one in Hawaii and one in Kenya?

Of course, it is possible that there are two sets of parents with the exact same names whose own residence of births are exactly the same giving birth in two different countries to two sons on the same day and year coincidentally both naming their sons with the same name.

Call me crazy, I am sure it will happen however there is something strange about the whole thing; I never knew it was possible to have two birth certificates whose parents have the same names both giving birth to sons on the same day and year plus both naming their sons exactly the same.

[Dan Riehl]

The reality is that NO US court, Supreme or otherwise, is going to unseat the first black POTUS over a techinicality. Aint ... gonna ... happen, folks.

Best to deal with that fact of life and move on. We need to fight the battles we can win.

[syn]

I agree with you Dan; just as the FBI does absolutely nothing in properly vetting people in high places, the US Justice system will do absolutely nothing about serving Justice-corrupt is corrupt-there is no way to get around The Party of Marxist Lawyers.

My question was not what the Supreme Court will do since I already know the answer-America's justice system is polluted and corrupt by lawyers, law professors and Darwinian apes dressed in robes; I have said before that I have zero faith in America's Judicial system.

My question was not about America's corrupt Judicial system-it is a given.

My question was how is it possible to have two birth certificates-one in Hawaii and one in Kenya?

[templar knight]

Exactly, Dan, and this birther crap has held the attention of people whose talents could have been used for more important things, such as researching Van Jones and dozens of other czars in the WH.

Everyone, get over the birther controversy and use your talents for constructive research and organizing. Please. We need you, your country needs you.

[Pixy Misa]

Syn - the Kenya birth certificate is a fake: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

[syn]

"such as researching Van Jones and dozens of other czars in the WH."

All the stuff about Obama's friends and associates were researched over a year ago during the campaign, when it mattered; if Americans do not know the great intellectuals from Harvard, Yale and University of Chicago all whom Obama proudly surrounds himself it is a tad late to find out what damage Cass Sunstein will do.

I suppose this means bloggers are now having to do the job ALL OVER AGAIN which obviously neither the FBI, mainstream journalists or lawyers in high places refuse to do.

[syn]

Pixy Misa

I admit I have not closely followed the issue because I believed in the vetting process-promises were made that all the candidates were properly vetted and I believed I could trust the promises made.

Given that, the fake birth certificate you linked to is not the one I am currently referring to:

http://americangrandjury.org/category/kenyan-birth-certificate

I admit this Orly Taitz, esq is attempting to prove this over and again so my disbelief radar is on; I do not trust who is telling the truth.

Now that you linked to a fake one this means there are three birth certificates associated with one person-which leads me to ask how many more will come out of the closet. I understand the State of Hawaii has the original long form but I do not understand why they won't release it.

Like I stated before, there is something strange about the entire affair.

I don't plan to discuss this any further since it is more important we go back over everything already researched during the campaign last year and do the same research ALL OVER AGAIN.

What this 'talents for constructive research and organizing' means to me is that perhaps the majority of Americans are completely unaware of just how far out to the progressive extreme have become our Nation's Ivy-league Towers of Higher Learning.

[Elmo]

The problem I have with the anti-birther movement is this: Why are we casually ignoring the RULES which are pretty plain and simple? And if we are going to continue, which other rules are we going to ignore when it becomes "inconvenient" to address (and who decides?) Isn't anarchy a small step away?

[Dan Riehl]

It isn't that I can disagree with you, Elmo. It's why I'm not really hard on the birthers, while not supporting the inquiry. But it is a dead end. And I'm also unaware of any other recent nominee, or president being asked to produce same. We have, for better or worse, always taken it at face value. Hawaii's a state, they say he's a citizen, he's a citizen. What's the alternative, a national database and cert. for every birth? I'm not real interested in getting the Fed involved as a matter of states rights.

[syn]

"ignoring the RULES"

At this point the question is, are such RULES based upon Harvard Law's Constitution or the United States Constitution.

[syn]

"And I'm also unaware of any other recent nominee, or president being asked to produce same"

Is McCain recent enough?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html

[Peach]

They're out there, or so I hear. heh!

Prepare to be angry. This means the MSM is sitting on some big stories ala John Edwards.

[Howard Veit]

What else is media sitting on? Try this one: a majority of the people I know (all liberals, after all I live in SoCal) have lost trust with Obama over the following: the Three thousand page plus bills published in tiny fonts on the web and written in legalese so no one can understand them; the refusal of the Democrats to so much as read bills; the obvious budget negative "change" that is in progress; refusal to actually look at "change" and it's impact; ACORN and what they are doing with our taX money; ditto for the UAW and SEIU thugs collecting bounty and what they are doing with it. I could go on but what's the point?

[Alan K. Henderson]

I care less about the Obama birth certificate than the ObamaCare death certificate.

[davod]

As I understand the qualifactions to be president issue, it is the states that have to declare a person eligible to be placed on the ballot in the state.

If all the states let someone on the ballot, then you have to convince each state that the person is not qualified.

[syn]

"This means the MSM is sitting on some big stories ala John Edwards."

It is odd how it took The National Enquirer to report hard news.

[Carol Herman]

Like most people, I don't watch Meet the Depressed. But I saw the YouTube clip. And, what got to me? When Brokaw spoke about how "excellent fact checking was," when he was a news reader. You mean you didn't know he spent more time in the makeup chair getting his hair fluffed, and the cosmetics applied, than he ever did "fact checking." Those jobs paid less. It was way below his pay scale.

And, YouTube has become the video center that captures the important stuff. Even if you want to call it a 'filter' ... the sewer is in the overflowing propaganda dump.

Of course, this only works when you get no competition. Like the citizens of russia, who dubbed Pravda as NOT a word meaning truth. So, you'd look between the lines. And, see who got axed from the photos with white-out.

[jr565]

Syn provide the Washington Post article contesting the validity of Mccain's presidency because of where he was born:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html

So wait, there are also lefty birthers too? Does anyone think that were Mccain to have won the election that somehow this wouldn't be an issue? The only reason it isn't one is because Mccain lost, therefore there's no need to delve further.

I don't, personally think it's a story worth dwelling on this case, especially considering the left is using it to marginalize anyone bringing it up. Yet, it does have to be pointed out that they themselves had birthers among them who were only too willing to discredit Mccain because he wasn't born in the US and attempted to suggest that he was illegitimate for that reason.

How about the media, and in particular the washington post examine their own birther tendencies while they continue calling the right wings kooks for following the same storyline.

[Michael]

Dan, you said "The reality is that NO US court, Supreme or otherwise, is going to unseat the first black POTUS over a techinicality."

However we are not talking technicalities IF Obama was born NOT a US citizen. There would be no way to fit this to the explicit Constitutional presidential eligibility requirement. My guestimate is 30%. You may now proceed to call me names.

[Xerocky]

" NYT has a history of not telling its dwindling readership the full story."

My liberal friends who work at the NYT were utterly blindsided by the whole van jones story. They had no idea.

Let's get back to the Walpin case!! Strike while the anvils hot.

[Pixy Misa]

Syn - "I admit this Orly Taitz, esq is attempting to prove this over and again so my disbelief radar is on"

Bingo. Cf. Dan Rather. And we all know how that ended.

[Dan Riehl]

"You may now proceed to call me names."

Nah, not going there. I understand the Constituional point, at least. But I am also a realist. Never going to happen. As my position is arrived at mostly via political justification first versus a clear principle, I don't feel entitled to call names in this case.

I choose not to push it, but I also haven't condemned those who are as I try to respect their view. My site simply isn't going to take up the cause. So, I guess you can call me names, now. But I made the best call I could and am being honest about it.

I have less regard for those attempting to silence them, as I can't find a solid principle to support them on any regard. Clearly, they have no regard for, or understanding of the Constituion and are driven only by political concerns of the day. That's the kind of reasoning that has gotten us where we are today - from where we have to fight back to restore the Constituion's rightful place and interpretation on all things. Others take precedence for me right now. That's all.

[Peter]

I am not a birther, honest to Betsy! I am, though, very curious as to why our man Barry has spent so many hundreds of thousands of dollars (whose dollars?) to avoid showing a twenty dollar birth certificate. I am also curious as to why his grades and college writings are a gigantic mystery while everyone else had to show theirs.

[Dan S]

Peter,

They don't fit the narrative that he (and his supporters) have constructed, therefore they must be suppressed so as to avoid confusing the natives.

[hM]

"I am, though, very curious as to why our man Barry has spent so many hundreds of thousands of dollars (whose dollars?) to avoid showing a twenty dollar birth certificate. I am also curious as to why his grades and college writings are a gigantic mystery while everyone else had to show theirs."

Because Our Lord Obama was never actually born. At least not when (or where) he claims he was. He's the Messiah, Jesus returned to claim his own. Which makes me really hope he gets the Rapture over with ASAP.

[Kat]

My, my my -- keep it up righties. Rational people can see your hypocrisy and they will remember stupid stuff like today.