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"Wow - still bickering when we finally have a president who wants to initiate change and is not willing to sell himself out for it."

Of course Obama wants "change". Right now, the United States is a country built on hard work, productivity, and business-friendly values.

Obama wants to change it to a leftist state in which work is penalized, welfare addiction is rewarded, and anyone who dares make a profit is demonized and called a thief.

You would think an ultrasupergenius like Oblahblah would realize that there isn't enough money among the "rich" to shovel out the welfare to everyone he wants -- and that his plans involve "the rich" continuing to work massive amounts when every dime they earn is taken away from them.

But Obama is a black Marxist and a 9/11 Truther, just like his Van Jones. Intelligence and rationality aren't among his miniscule virtues.

"Wow - still bickering when we finally have a president who wants to initiate change and is not willing to sell himself out for it. President Obama made a comment about working together. Set aside your egos and look at the big picture. Don't just sit back and complain. Be grateful our country has the opportunity to turn around and embrace it. "

HORSE PUCKEY. Obama wants to initiate change, well isn't that nice. Change is ALWAYS good, right? Getting your hand slammed in a car door, that's change too! YAY CHANGE!

Obama has lovely rhetoric about "working together," so why has he been shutting out the Republicans from discussions of HR 3200? I seem to recall the GOP trying to be involved in another bill, only to be told "Well, ~I~ won the election, so we're going to do it ~my~ way. So agree with me or shut up."

Set our egos aside. Well, certainly, especially when we're being called Right Wing Domestic Terrorists, Nazis, Talibani, racists, obstructionists, astroturf, etc, etc, etc.

YOU and the rest of your liberal ilk need to be grateful to our country and our Constitution that allows you spout anti-American nonsense and encourage corruption without being set in front of a firing squad. But no, you guys are too busy trying to destroy the Constitution that has protected you for the past 200+ years and made this the greatest country in the world.

Good job!

Joe Wilson for Governor to replace the luuuv guuuv

"Wow - still bickering when we finally have a president who wants to initiate change and is not willing to sell himself out for it. President Obama made a comment about working together. Set aside your egos and look at the big picture. Don't just sit back and complain. Be grateful our country has the opportunity to turn around and embrace it. "

Ah. In other words, we should all just shut up and do what Obama says. Never mind that he's wrong on this one. Never mind that even his sycophants in the AP are calling him on his lies. Never mind that anyone with three active braincells and a calculator can tell you that Obama's plan simply will not work as it's being advertised. Never mind that his other bills have been abysmal failures. Just bend over and smile.

Kudos to Mr. Wilson. Our country is founded on freedom of speech. Now because someone uses that right the treat to his future career (and his family) is questioned. Is this what this country has come too? Mr. Wilson called the President out on his comments because he (unlike the President) has knowledge of the bill. Why do the democrates think they are the only ones that know what is good for the country? What happen to bi-partisianship? This polical situation is just getting worse, where is the change that we all thought was coming? What a joke!

GO JOE GO....

HE SPEAKS FOR THE MASSES.

Kudos to the whole gang of right wing conformists for showing that you really are racists. You hate Obama because he is black. You have made yourself clear. "He is not one of you".

There's some good projection for you. When you throw down the race card a zillion times it wears pretty thin.

Joe Wilson...You're a boorish puke and about as classless as the rest of the low-life bunch from South Carolina and the republican party in general. A bunch of vapid headed do-nothings.

Ronald Reagen the great communicator. Barrack Huessein Obama the great divider. So many of our citizens are very ignorant of what makes a society free. The ability to own a business and create economic wealth is what made this country great. That is why we have the prosperity we have today. Government has never and will never create a single sustained job. The government operates on capital supplied by private business that employee freedom loving americans. Do you really want to change this system? We have leaders now trying desparately to increase Governments already overwhelming presence. Come on people, wake up, take a stand. save our system, protect our liberty and our rights before it is to late.

Nay, indeed, if you had your eyes, you might fail of
the knowing me: it is a wise father that knows his
own child. Well, old man, I will tell you news of
your son: give me your blessing: truth will come
to light; murder cannot be hid long; a man's son
may, but at the length truth will out.

Shakespeare, "The Merchant of Venice"

I think 'truth' anthropomorphized itself last night and needed a mouth to come out of and chose Joe Wilson because South Carolina already has crazy people in government who do audacious things. Go Joe! Someone send him a hot Argentinian.

We need more of this shouting out and questioning those in charge. They do it in England in Parliment to the PM and we need to have something like that here. That way at least the "leader" would have to stand there and take some heat and questions and yes catcalls.

Michelle, the big picture is that this bozo is trying to dismantle the greatest country on earth one brick at a time. The health care industry is 1/6 of the U.S. economy. Wars have been fought over far less.

What the hell? Why doesn't everyone Left or Right quit acting like children and do as the President requested and actually discuss the issue so that maybe something could actually get done in Washington. And to all of the conservative right why is it okay to have an open ended signed check for war but if we are going to actually do something for the American people everyone freaks? If we could have as much loyalty to humanity as we do to our parties the world could be a lot better!

Kudos to the whole gang of right wing conformists for showing that you really are racists. You hate Obama because he is black. You have made yourself clear. "He is not one of you".

You're right, Obama isn't one of us.

But blaming his anti-Americanism, his hatred of white people, his communist views, his 9/11 Trutherism, his screaming and babbling that he never does anything wrong and that anyone who opposes him is an evil-mongering racist Nazi, his support and endorsement of tax cheats, and his leadership failures on his skin color is incredibly racist.

Obama likes to push the meme that his hateful attitudes and corruption are due to his skin color, but frankly, I know plenty of black people who are intelligent, competent, emotionally-secure, truthful, honest, and hardworking individuals. Obama's problems are due solely to his own choices and bad character; the only way in which his skin color negatively affects him is the fact that it forces white liberals to enable and support him no matter how horribly he behaves.

hey ajdaddie why not just yell "they started it" like little kids on the playground do? I guess this is one case where two wrongs really do make a "right". What is your suggestion for fixing the health care system? I am sure you have all of the answers after all you are "right"

What lies? I would like to see them pointed out. Do you mean outright lies, like "death panels", or the inefficiency of Medicare versus private pay, or the horrendous systems in Canada, or the gov't funding abortion, or the gov't paying for illegal immigrants (even Consumer Reports calls this myth out). I have yet to see a Republican Congressman specifically point out a lie told by Obama.

AjDaddie, I also believe in working hard to get what we want out of this life. My family does work hard I am denied coverage for a preexisting condition. Now what? We don't need to change the health care system in this country. If it is not your way then no way? How about some intelligent dialogue to come to a compromise that will benefit all hard working Americans? Instead of outburst and name calling. So I do want change.You are no more deserving than I am and sir you are no more American than I. I am happy the current system works for you what about us other 50 million people

Jami, read the earlier posts. The Republicans have been trying to present alternate plans. The Republicans have not been invited to the White House since April, and have since crafted three plans. Not that you would know that from either the Democrat leadership or the MSM.

And please, don't go back to EVIL BOOOSH and BAD IRAQ WAR and try to use that to justify a massive increase in government intrusion. By the way, are you protesting Obama's increase of America's troops in Afghanistan? Just wondering.

As for me, I'm not beholden to either Democrat or Republican ideology. What I am is a conservative, and to that end I want you and the government out of my wallet. Period.

As to loyalty to humanity, conservatives give more to charity than liberals ever do. How much have you given to charity this year?

More and more Americans -- especially the ones who must actually PAY for this -- are saying that this plan and this direction in general isn't what they want. Our elected officials (you know, the ones who are supposed to represent us) need to listen and get back to true American values of hard work and liberty. Redistribution of wealth appeals to the Che crowd, but as Margaret Thatcher so brilliantly said: "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money."

Whether it's printing trillions and devaluing the dollar or just stripping it away with higher taxes and government forced "health insurance", this administration is hell bent on running out of MY money, and I'm tired of it.

I'll say it again: let me keep my paycheck, and you keep the change.

"Michelle" who? The statement posted over that name sounds like statements a prominent Michelle is on record making, such as last year at
USC.

The statement also sounds a theme that prominent Michelle is known formally and personally to promote: serve your country by serving Barak, who will not let you go back to what you knew, the comforts, the non-commitment, or words to that effect.

Could it be that said prominent Michelle returns to the great white teepee following pink posturing and boots up Riehl World View to whip the people (of "the people be damned" fame) into line? Just the thought is delicious! :-)

And why was this speech not delivered from the Oval Office to the people? That would be the tradition for a matter considered of top national priority. But no, it is delivered to the lawmakers. Why?

Because the people have already been lost, it is known that they have been, so the pitch must be made to those positioned to say "The people be damned, just f------ do it!"

That's what that speech was about: OK folks (lawmakers), we are just going to f------ do this.

... and Michelle tells the people, "And you are going to f------ like it!"

As I say, delicious! God, I hope it's her! :-)

Almost as delightful as that possibility is the hail of fire here from the moveon minions.

Anniversary of 09/11/01 tomorrow. Heads up!

@moveon minions and their bosses: "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." *The Outlaw Josey Wales*

Death panels are a term meant to encompass the concept of an unregulated, unelected body of people who will decide what treatments are approved and which are denied, like the NICE board in England. If you're unfamiliar with that group, I suggest you take some time to read up on them. Read in particular the policy -- since reversed, thankfully -- that certain glaucoma treatments were deemed "too expensive" until the person needing the treatment had GONE BLIND IN ONE EYE.

The point that Palin was trying to make, and that gets lost in the quibbling over the terminology, is that once the government is in charge of making the decisions on what is and isn't "necessary", that by definition you have people being denied treatment when they could have had it. It's probably hyperbolic in nature, but it does focus your attention, and it's no different than Obama preaching that if we don't do what he says, people will die.

My last post for now. You ask about lies. Rather than hear it from me, why not hear it from the AP (not especially known for their anti-Obama bent):

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_fact_check

It's quite impressive. My favorite is that we went from 46 million uninsured to 30 million. Hey! 16 million people got insurance since last speech! Without doing anything! At this rate, we'll be able to insure the whole *planet* in a few years...

Darnit, I have to post one more time to correct my previous statement. The ailment was wet age-related macular degeneration, and not glaucoma. The result still the same. Read here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1049491/Too-late-After-thousands-patients-needlessly-blind-NICE-boss-says-sorry-delays-sight-saving-drugs.html

Regardless of the disease, this is the kind of change I DON'T want...

to all those bitter republicans, bend over and take it like a man!! you screwed this country enough and its time for a change LOL. i say take it like a man you old world thinkers, time for new ideas and new hope. its over take it like a man, the changes will come with you or without you. the country has made a shift to end old idealogy and begin a new era for all americans not just the rich and white people. TAKE IT LIKE A MAN!!!!

So, is Wilson's indecorous, untimely outburst a dialogue? Yep, just what we need right now -- more smart aleck, tempramental, undisciplined "representatives" who bought their way into office for who knows what.

If SC has anything on the ball, they need to rip this so-called "rep" out of office. Or does he represent the true character of the present Republican Party?

I am a life-long "southern" Republican but it is time for me to get out of that organization. After W Bush, Rove, Cheney, McCain, Palin, and now, Wilson it looks like it's time to change parties or go independent. Wilson is typical of what the party has developed to fit the country's needs(bigots, liars, rabble rousers, illiterates, adulterers, jack booted thugs, thieves, opportunist.)

B. Cash you hit the nail right on the head, the republican party has changed. they reflect how people shout, cus, and disrupt town hall meetings. the world is looking at us and laughing.

I am a life-long "southern" Republican but it is time for me to get out of that organization.

So you say that all Republicans and anyone who has ever voted Republican are "bigots, liars, rabble rousers, illiterates, adulterers, jack booted thugs, thieves, opportunist" -- but then try to claim you're a "life-long" Republican.

I suppose confession is good for the soul -- and frankly, we're not sorry to see bigots, liars, rabble rousers, illiterates, adulterers, jack-booted thugs, thieves, and opportunists like yourself leave the Republican Party. You'll fit right in with your new friends in the Obama Party, all of whom are the same as you are.

As a South Carolinian I am porud to know there is a Senator that has the balls and fortitude to call Comade OBama what he is, a liar, a flat out liar. However I am embarrassed as a South Carolinian that Joe Wilson has gone back and apologized for his remark. He told the truth and no one shpould apologize for the truth. Comade Obama is forcing the Federal Government onto the people and into the peoples lives futher than ever in the history of these United States. He is a liar, and a Socialist Dictator. It is time the American people rise up and take back the government and make it what it originally was and was meant to be, a government BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE. If we a s a nation dont then we cannot complain as we have let it be done to us. He is out to destroy this country, he has damn near triple the deficit. He has in less than a year in office spent more than Bush has in 8 yrs of fighting terrorism. He bailed out the investors and automakers at OUR expense. Starnge when I over draw my account I dont hear Him and his croonies running to my aid to bail me out. They [investors and automakers] got themselves into financial trouble they should have figured out how to get themselves out. America best do something quick or wqe will no longer be the United States of America but rather the United Socialist States of America. Hope you Obama Comrades like Vodka, it soon will be the drink of choice.

Why doesn't everyone Left or Right quit acting like children and do as the President requested and actually discuss the issue so that maybe something could actually get done in Washington. And to all of the conservative right why is it okay to have an open ended signed check for war but if we are going to actually do something for the American people everyone freaks? If we could have as much loyalty to humanity as we do to our parties the world could be a lot better!

Is anyone else amused by a party of people who say that children should be killed if they're inconvenient and who brag about their desire to deny health care to the elderly and disabled because they're not "productive" whining about "loyalty to humanity"?

Oh, that's right; Obama and his Party don't believe the unborn, children, the disabled, or elderly are humans. They're excess tissue, parasites, worthless, unproductive, damaged.....

joe wilson just forget he didnt have his white hood and robes on....white fear is so funny and moral outrage form a bunch of heathens is even more hilarious ...thanks for the laughs Dan!

I can't believe the inappropriate and disrespectful behavior towards our president.

HURRAY FOR JOE WILSON

HE SAID IN PERSON WHAT MY HUSBAND AND I WERE YELLING IN OUR LIVING ROOM.
Obama cannot accept that an intelligent person will disagree with his proposal. He resorts to making references that only uneducated people will disagree with him. He is NOT open to discussion - otherwise he would realize you start attacking the problem BEFORE you start throwing trillions of dollars at it.

The people voted him in and if enough unite, we can vote him out.

Janice its actually the other way around, intelligent people are listening to Obama!!! Its idiots like you and your husband who wants the statis quo, move on you lost, deal with it. We are here to make changes LOL. take it like a man.

Dan..

Big :-D!!!

We are here to make changes LOL.

Indeed you are; you're here, along with your Black Messiah, to try to force other Americans to pay for your wastefulness, your laziness, your lack of productivity, your refusal to get a job, and your complete repudiation of personal responsibility.

Problem is, the American people are aware of both that and the lies that your Obama tells. Even the media recognizes that Obama lies constantly when he talks about health care.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_fact_check

The reason why liberals and Obama supporters want free health care becomes obvious very quickly when you consider their normal and typical behavior and what they do.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/22/BA3519BTV8.DTL

"The emperor has no clothes".................. Thank you, Mr Wilson.

" Will a public plan cover me if watching this idiot lie makes me sick?" yes, isn't that comforting?

are you human? then it should be your right, shouldn't it? are we supposed to let people die on the streets?

Mr. Riehl - You Republicans are a bunch of boorish liars and uncouth hypocrites. It's nauseating to hear your unctuous, twisted, self-serving excuses for the utterly contemptible, indefensible vulgarity of the pathetic Mr. Wilson, now become the poster-child for the grotesque, uncivil affront to the American body politic that the Republican Party has become ..

NORTH DALLAS THIRTY,
You LOST, your party LOST, your idealogy LOST, your bigatry LOST, your old world thinking LOST. GET OVER IT!!! We dont want republican thinking anymore it over, please send a big thank you to George from all the Democrats who care about people. spending 1 trillion on a war is not wasteful? giving tax breaks to the wealthiest people is not wastful? your a waste of time you idiot, your old world thinking has come to end and its scaring you LOL. bend over and take it like a man!!!!!!

Lance,

Did you type that with your little "pinkie" up?

No Lance my pinkie was actually up your wife!!

it is very apparent that we are not one country anymore. joe wilson should not apologize and in fact some others with the guts to call obama out should step up. since michelle obama is finally proud to be an american i am ashamed of what the founding fathers would think of this move to federalism and socialism. i am an american chickasaw indian but i can see a forked tongue when i hear one and what transparency in obama. bush was no better and get ready all of you to experience what the indians had to in the 1830s under andrew jackson. someone has to take a stand to stop what is coming

what happened to freedom of speech .OBAMA was being a lire like always it refreshing to see someone call him on his b.s. that is all he spews. constantly lie after lie. he shouldn't have apologized he should have said . i called u out for what you are that is i pathological lire

"You LOST, your party LOST, your idealogy LOST, your bigatry LOST, your old world thinking LOST."

Did it?

Obama campaigned on these things:

-- Cutting taxes
-- Cutting spending
-- Supporting national defense
-- Personal responsibility
-- Supporting business
-- Abortion as a moral wrong and something to be reduced

The fact that he immediately flip-flopped when he got into office is an indication of how liberals must lie to get into power.

Do you think Obama would have won had he stated what he actually believes, such as his racist beliefs against white people and his 9/11 Trutherism?

Nope. And unfortunately for you, "an american", people don't take well to constant lies from an immature child like Obama.

North Dallas,
Your right actually
He will not cut taxes for the wealthy DARN!
He is not giving corporations tax breaks, and he is ending a war that already cost us 1 trillion.
Supporting national defense does not mean starting wars!!
He also does not support big business your right, he should exempt them all from paying taxes like bush your buddy Bush!
Get your nose out of the bible for once, abortion is about someones choice.

Lets not forget the War lies, the economy lies that Bush and your crony buddies were telling. Your deserve to LOSE your holy whiteness. LOL bend over and take it like a scared old white guy.

Grammar l0l.......

YOU ARE = YOU"RE

mike2cents - If one isn't allowed to identify the illegal aliens, how does one know one is complying with the rules of HR3200 which prohibit payment to illegal aliens?

All Americans want is a law that makes sense. Federal programs should contain rules that prohibit payments of American tax dollars to criminals... and ALSO contain internal control procedures to make sure those rules are followed.

For pete's sake, state and local government programs follow these guidelines (program rules + internal controls) when they received federal pass-through dollars...so why are Pelosi and Obama trying to act like it something not normally done? And the reason state and local governments follow these guideline is because it is REQUIRED to get a clean audit opinion (something unheard of at the federal level unfortunately).

What choice did he have? The liberals won't listen and the MSM won't report it and the anger at being ignored comes out at town halls and now in the Congressional chambers. This presdident promised to unite not divide but he uses his bully pulpit to run roughshod over his distractors.I have always respected the office of the presidency but both Bush and Obama have made that difficult.Don't treat Americans like they need to be led on leashes. Tommorrow is the anniversary of 9-11. Americans that day demonstrated they don't need someone to exhort them to action. They just dig in and get after it, like they literally did in the rubble of the Twin towers. I am not a racist. In 2004, I thought Obama was the greatest politician to hit the American scene since JFK. Since then his arrogance has completely alienatd me.

"Kudos to the whole gang of right wing conformists for showing that you really are racists. You hate Obama because he is black. You have made yourself clear. "He is not one of you"."

Being half white, and raised by those "typical white people", makes him more white than black in my book. He certainly didn't pull himself out of the ghetto or experience Jim Crow laws. So telling white folks they "hate" him because of his race makes no sense whatsoever.

I view him with distaste, distrust, and disgust because of his proven dishonesty (buying the election with the help of broken promises about public financing and untraceable overseas contributions made possible by his disabling all ID checks in his online contributions), his surrounding himself with, and getting his ideology from, crooks, racists, radicals and terrorists (Rezko, Wright, Jones and Ayers), his dangerous inexperience and naivete in foreign affairs (I'm waiting for his inevitable order to our Navy to dip the American flag when entering a foreign port, particularly if it's a Muslim port), and his quadrupling of the deficit in 7 very short months with ludicrously inept actions (like Cash for Japa- I mean Clunkers).

This is the beginning of the revolution... and everybody's watching. As a young American, its amazing to see one side of America hate the president so much. I guess disrespecting the president won't matter in the near future or America for that matter. Its obvious, America is not ready for a black president, it sounded good though

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