Jesse Griffin: Troubling Revelations

Despite claims of being an anonymous blogger at Immoral Minority, research suggests that, through possible misjudgment, Jesse Griffin appears to have created a situation in which he has been easily identifiable as the blogger Gryphen, particularly to children, perhaps for as long as two years. School-aged children who were PC literate apparently could have had access to information posted on his blog including questionable statements like this below - apparently posted by assistant kindergarten instructor Jesse Griffin himself when discussing a possible military draft. As of this minute, the content is still live.

Quick hide your children! They are getting ready to feed them into Vietraq's bottomless pit of death and destruction.

I am teaching my boys to wear dresses and swish when they walk because being ignorant or drug addicted is no longer a guarantee of being passed over. If your not willing to suck cock then pack up your going to Iraq! Posted by Gryphen at 7:34 AM 0 comments Links to this post

At issue is Griffin's MySpace page, apparently designed in a manner to make him easily discoverable as Jesse Griffin of Anchorage by searching on either location or name. Given the trend for young people to spend so much time on MySpace and similar social networking services, perhaps even looking for specific school instructors they knew, or liked, it seems plausible that any Anchorage school student could have ultimately been directed to Immoral Minority to read any of his more vulgar and outrageous postings and comments, while knowing full well who blogger Gryphen actually was. The URL for the MySpace page was actually blogger Gryphen's real name. The page includes multiple images also making Griffin easily identifiable.

 

Because of this portal between his MySpace real identity and his "Gryphen" alter-ego the allegedly anonymous Gryphen appears to have been out all along. It didn't take a letter from Sarah Palin's lawyer Thomas Van Flein, one which Griffin might have ignored in any event. But more on that in a later post.

In what might be an even more serious concern to some, the issue stems from Jesse Griffin's decision to take advantage of a MySpace feature allowing one to refer visitors to a blog.

 

Griffin opted to use the feature to steer readers directly to his political blog, Immoral Minority, which many would describe as vulgar, and worse.

 

The blog routinely displayed content such as describing then Governor and VP candidate Sarah Palin as wearing "fuck me pumps",or debating the acceptability of such concepts as referring to former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice as a "cunt". That misogynistic and vile descriptor was often used by some commenters at Gryphen's blog in addressing Palin, as well.

Based upon one report from an Immoral Minority reader, it's been claimed that Griffin's comments are moderated and potentially approved. Also, initial research suggests much of the more disturbing content there has never been deleted, or removed. He did denounce the word "cunt" as an "unfortunate pejorative" when directed at Rice, though seeming to do nothing to clean up said remarks in any way.

In what appears to be a fairly consistent sexual theme, Griffin makes remarks such as, "if sex is not naughty then it is almost not worth doing", claim that he is "promoting self-pleasure", and instructing that, "Your penis will respond more readily if you take it out and put it through its paces more often".

It appears that someone who wanted to spend a large amount of time researching Griffiin's site for what many would consider as inappropriate content for children, the search could go on for quite some time. This seems to raise at least some initial questions people might want answered.

• Is this appropriate content for a 49 year-old male kindergarten instructor in a somewhat smallish town to post under any circumstances? 

• And perhaps most troubling of all, given the apparent MySpace linkage, do any young Anchorage students know precisely what Jesse Griffin is all about, if nothing else, as regards his blogging presence on the Web?

I emailed Griffin as there are additional questions I may pose later, some regarding interpersonal interactions I have questions about. But I want to give him a chance to respond before posting more.

I'd also like to thank Joseph Culligan of Web of Deception, busy working on non-related issues, too, for his assistance with research. And be sure to check out story co-blogger Stacy McCain for more. Stacy has now written to Griffin, as well.

Stay tuned....

Comments

[BrideOfRove]

Teachers have been fired for far less. In fact, he probably should not be working in any environment where women are present. I didn't think it was possible to out-do Evan Handler's post at HuffPo last November offering to whore out liberal women for votes. I was wrong. Sick, sick man. Really. What is wrong with these people? It's just depressing.

[mark l.]

20 buck side bet...
jesse is the king of klonopin.

[Aye Chihuahua]

Dayum!

That's gonna leave a mark.

I left a comment earlier over at Jesse's site....too bad he didn't have the stones to post it.

Popcorn anyone?

[Mary]

Yawn.

That's all you have Dan?

Last time I checked, the First Amendment has not been repealed and people are free to post their thoughts on the Internet.

I thought you were going to say he was some kind of criminal or something really juicy.

[BrideOfRove]

"pack up your going to Iraq! "

You.Are - concatenate - You're

He's illiterate as well as being a rancid human being.

[mark l.]

mary:
"Last time I checked, the First Amendment has not been repealed and people are free to post their thoughts on the Internet."

jesse:
"I have sent this information to my attorney and to the ACLU just in case you don't take me seriously."

luke:
"what we got here, is a failure to communicate."

[Kitty]

I wonder if the school board will look into him? And if we'll ever know about it?

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[alwaysfiredup]

People ARE free to post thoughts on the internet. Businesses are also free to FIRE employees who post things on the internet they think are unflattering to them or their desired image. If you do not believe me, check out Board of Regents of State Colleges v. Roth, 408 U.S. 564 (1972). I have never met a tenured part-time teacher of any kind, much less in kindergarten, so he's very likely toast. His students are on MySpace and can see him. He has a working link from his myspace page to his blog. Ergo, students can easily see his blog, which is full of profanity. If I were his employer I'd fire him too. See ya, suckas.

[anginak]

Read what happened recently in Dillingham, Alaska:

http://www.adn.com/rural/western/story/878744.html

She was/is a vitrolic, stream of conciousness blogger. That is a very small community compared to Anchorage, but public disapproval apparently can have it's own backlash.

[LeeL]

Well, I'd hoped for more. The folks in Anchorage already knew who the Gryphen was and have no problem with someone like him teaching their kids to read. Gryphen didn't post my comment either. He was musing about how terrific his friends were and linked to some supporters. No supporting words on Celtic Diva, girl from Homer or Progressive Alaska last time i checked. Mudflats went on the attack, with the tactic of misdirection to the dreadful trauma to kids of *maybe* having a subpoena delivered to a teacher. Leave the kiddies alone she whines. She was pretty miffed when one of her victims tracked her down and outed her. You may notice Moore has been pretty limited in her "just a rumor" posts lately. I'm just saying....

[Bilby]

You know it's serious when the only defense is "Last time I checked, the First Amendment has not been repealed..."

[mark l.]

"Last time I checked, the First Amendment has not been repealed..."

birthers should use that line, it's catchy.

[upinak]

anginak, very true. But Anchorage still has quite a bit of small town mentality and most "normal" Alaskans (or those whom are real) don't deal with people like griffin on the street. The school board is going to have to deal with comaeu though. And that may be a problem.

leel, I can honestly say I had no clue as to who griffin was nor did any of the Alaskans I know. The guy is a sleaze and as I said to anginak, normal around hear is NOT griffin and many don't play by the same rules as the "Alaskan liberal Bloggers".

Dan I appreciate the time you put into this. Many Alaskans are unable to do what you and Stacy have done... due to work and such. I wish I could tell you how much of the City and State run and you may be surprised.

[Lala]

The Stasi want you to turn in your neighbors

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/

[Elizabeth]

Thank you to you and McCain for following this. I do not know how Palin puts up with all of this garbage.
Mr. Griffin actually had a post up with a secretly-taken picture of Bristol at the Iron Dog, where he invited people to speculate about her stomach size, whether she was pregnant again and whether she lied about Tripp's birthdate. I was absolutely disgusted and will never click there again. What is wrong with those people? And then they say "leave the kids alone" with a strait face? It is a wonder that any of the Palins ever want to leave their house.

[anonymous]

Drat! I was thinking all this time that lefty's misogyny sauce was a condiment, but it turns out to be a lubricant.

[anginak]

upinak, I don't promote violence against an individual (like mentioned in the article), however, I promote an extreme state of disapproval when a person such as griffin is run across. If he loses his job, I think that's great. And I hope he meets with Ms. Comeau very soon, I hope she fires his a**. Preferably before school is in session! Would serve him right.

Just to clear up any ambiguity of my earlier comment.

[Rich K]

Hmmm. 16 posts and no sign yet of our resident contrarion. He must be doing that painstaking research he showers on us before blessing us with his wisdom again so watch for it everyone. I know its going to be factual and balanced as all of his memes have been,,,,,,,,,,,,,NOT

[mark l.]

I almost would rather see Comeau "not" fire him. It is an indefensible position, and in protecting jesse, would handicap her crediblity for any future decision, regarding dismissal.

she is going to pull a page from obama's book,
and dude is "going to be thrown under the bus". She might like him, she might agree with him, she might resent outside interference, but her legal team is going to give her some solid advice. Anything else would be malpractice.

who knows...obama might need a "masturbation czar".

dude is a serious 'pi-bolar'.

[tim maguire]

If I had a child in his school, I'd be interested.

[Stogie]

I posted a rebuttal to "Leave the Kids Alone" at my site: http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/2009/08/lefty-alaskan-bloggers-use-kindergarten.html

Here it is:

Jeanne Devon of leftist Alaskan blog, The Mudflats, is up to her usual mendacity. Sarah Palin is on the verge of suing Jesse Griffin of the "Immoral Minority" for publishing a false story about the Palins divorcing. Palin's attorney sent Griffin a letter asking him if he would rather be served with a summons at home or at work, giving Griffin a choice. However, the lefty Alaskan bloggers have seized on that to scream that Palin's attorney is going to serve Griffin right in front of the kindergartners that he teaches.

Devious Devon has posted an article on her blog today called "Leave the Kids Alone!" It is a transparent attempt at misdirection, to turn the public conversation about the misdeeds of Griffin in a different direction, painting the Palin team as child abusers and transforming Griffin from culprit to victim. She writes:
...the “leaving kids alone” philosophy shouldn’t be applied too broadly, according to the Palins. The latest dastardly deed from Palin lawyer and Snidely Whiplash Wannabee, Thomas Van Flein, involves bringing down the iron-fisted, pointy-knuckled wrath of Sarah Palin in front of…(wait for it)… a classroom full of five-year-olds.

Like most everything Devon publishes on her blog, it is thoroughly dishonest and Machiavellian. For one thing, the lawsuit would not be served by the attorney himself; they use independent third party process servers for that task. This is so the server can later testify that the summons was indeed served, should the defendant dispute it. The process server has no stake in the case one way or the other.

For another thing, school hasn't started yet, so if Griffin is at work, there won't be any kids there. Even if there were, the lawsuit would not be served on him in the middle of the classroom. He would be called out of class, probably by the principal, to be served away from the kids. Serving a summons merely consists of handing a sealed envelope to the person served, that's it. It isn't necessary to tackle the servee and smack him in the jaw while screaming profanities.

The false picture that the PDS* bloggers are trying to paint is ridiculous on its face -- that the Palin attorney is going to barge unannounced into a kindergarten class and hand a summons to Griffin, somehow terrorizing the kindergartners in the process. Pathetic.

***

*PDS stands for Palin Derangement Syndrome

[Mrs. Peperium]

Yes what is presented here does meet the criteria for troubling revelations. Well done.

Now get some sleep.

[upinak]

anginak, oh no I totally agree. BUT, Comaeu is a total liberal. She had Mark Begich (they are really good "friends") raise property taxes so HIGH in Anchorage that it is insane... and it partially to pay teachers salary (which aren't graduating) and build new schools. The school board is afraid of her.... she is a complete jerk. She even sued some guy, when his car slipped on the ice had a little bumper blunder, and he HAD insurance. She had the cops all over him saying he was being rude and asking him "Do you know who I am" type questions.

I want to watch and see what happens. Dan and Stacy are doing a very good job.

[Jim R]

Aah, Sarah-noia claims its first victim!

[Jim R]

Sweet, sweet schadenfreude! Have a nice life Jesse!

[anginak]

Exactly, Stogie! Can you even imagine Mr. Van Flein appearing out of nowhere, in the actual classroom, screaming and shouting "Take this summons NOW!" Process servers will even wait by the servee's vehicle at their place of work or elsewhere to serve the documents, wouldn't even necessitate entering the school.

Does she (Ms. Devon) think we are all that ignorant? Oh wait, I temporarily forgot the blog readers she panders to....

[richard mcenroe]

Is anyone else nervouse with the idea of a 49 year old male kindergarten teacher, period?

[rdwngnut]

No way I want this guy near my kid.

[Bob]

"And I hope he meets with Ms. Comeau very soon, I hope she fires his a**. Preferably before school is in session! Would serve him right."

In the petty and pathetic world of wing nut politics, this is now what passes for "victory." LOL.

[anginak]

Dear Bob -

You get what you give.

Respectfully,

[mark l.]

beyond jesse...

the past two months have easily been the sweetest in memory, at least since 94, and everyday things just get better. the lib gaffes just keep coming.

jesse is like a tiny sprinkle on the sundae. I caught some of limbaugh today, and the material that is out there could fill 6 hours a day. I'm watching ALL credility of the democrat party flying out the window. My only fear?

the larry/curly/moe condition that kept mr burns alive is blocking the sewage from being jettisoned. I look at the calender though, and see that there is still 16 months worth of flushing for these turds, before the next election. There won't even be skidmarks left.

I almost dread nov 2010, because things couldn't be better, right now.

[Jim R]

I'd say getting a pervert away from schoolkids would be a great victory. Thanks for the confirmation Bob!

[North Dallas Thirty]

Actually, Bob, what could more precisely be called "petty and pathetic" are the lies you and your friend Gryphen are spreading in an attempt to harm Sarah Palin.

Or like yesterday, when you attacked two regular commenters here, claiming they had never repudiated deficits or provided you with a plan to control health care costs -- which was demonstrated to be a complete and total lie using your own quoted words.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2009/08/the-jessie-griffin-story-an-update.html?cid=6a00d83451c1db69e20120a51b452e970c#comment-6a00d83451c1db69e20120a51b452e970c

The victory here comes in the fact that the leftist received what he did to others. You are whining and screaming and crying about it because you, like all spoiled, bratty liberal children, are not used to your behavior having consequences.

[upinak]

North Dallas.. I think Bob is someone who trolls conservatives sites. And I also think he lives in Palmer, Alaska.

[Chercast]

Information is power. Thanks to Roger Stacey McCain and Dan Riehl for their great scoop, work, reporting and cooperation in giving parents a chance to have the information so they can act in the best interest of their children. This information spreads power back to the individual..in this case parents, board members, administrators, individual teachers and yes even public school students....and that is one power of a free press.

[greg]

It's pathetic that the DNC has chosen to align itself with the dregs such as Griffin, Moore, Biegel, Munger, Devon, Chatman, Henning, etc. It looks like useful idiots must be a dime a dozen.

[mark l.]

"Never have I seem so much froth over so little."

slide is like an ant, log rolling on a turd, that is spinning down the drain. I guess from his vantage point, things do look "forthy".

[anon]

I don't know if it's the issue of children having seen it, but rather does this person have the type of mentality that is a fit with kindergarten?

I would say no. He has shown himself to be immature, a liar, a bully, a hysteric and a tin foil hat wearer. This doesn't seem like teacher's assistant material to me.

[mark l.]

hey, take it easy on bob.
his comic relief is fantastic.

his apologiae is a thing of psychotic beauty.

[ThomasD]

Is anyone else nervous with the idea of a 49 year old male kindergarten teacher, period?

Um, no.

I try to remain open minded and fair. You know - avoid falling for the needless stereotype that sees all male grade school teachers as mentally unbalanced social losers and freaks.

Although people like Griffin do make this tough.

[Jim R]

So, Bob and Slide are okay with teaching young boys how to give head. Anybody else?

[North Dallas Thirty]

Poor little Slide. Once again, he spins, desperately trying to defend his buddy Griffen and show how he supports Gryphen's postings and writing.

[ol_dirty_/b/tard]

Hey Slide: Last I checked, elected officials have first amendment rights too. That didn't stop you assholes from attempting to stifle Palin's first amendment rights through trumped-up, farcical, frivolous ethics complaints. So go f#$k yourself, Slide.

[mark l.]

"teachers have First Amendment rights as well."

ahh, slide. I'll remember that one, when teachers are pointing out that obama is a socialist, and socialism inevitably fails. An appeal to libertarians? I thought you and bob believed everyone here was a right wing nut job. I won't even bother pointing out how fast obama and the dems are bleeding out on independent voters.

[Bob]

"Or like yesterday, when you attacked two regular commenters here, claiming they had never repudiated deficits or provided you with a plan to control health care costs"

LOL. Here's the most substantial excerpt of what North Dallas calls poster anon's "plan to control health care costs":

"However, if you look at the stats a huge percentage of overall health care is spent on end of life care...much of that is needlessly prolonging the life of people who are 70 or older...it costs a ton of money, gives little back in return and arguably decreases the quality of life for seniors . . ."

[So far so good, anon, maybe you've got an actionable recommendation here! Oh but wait, there's always a bummer caveat coming sooner or later . . .]

" . . . but trying to make changes to that mode of care is going to be virtually impossible as well, since most physicians and caregivers already know that heavy medical intervention for the very sick is stupid, they do it anyway, lest we all be called Nazis out to cull the old folks."

Oh damn, but he lost his nerve and bailed out again, saying himself that his very own "plan" is "going to be virtually impossible." That's the kind of "can-do" spirit we've come to expect from defeatist conservatives like him. Shoot! And just when we started thinking he might have a real "plan" that we could take to Washington and solve the entire healthcare crisis. LOL.

If I were anon, North Dallas, I think I'd be slightly embarrassed to have you blathering about what a great PLAN this is. I dare you to find me one actionable item that his PLAN that one could actually use to control costs. And while you're at it, since you're touting this as some kind of comprehensive PLAN, maybe you can show us where it says what proportion of Americans will be covered, how much it will costs, whether or not it intends to maintain Medicare, etc. etc. After all, since this is such a complete answer to all our problems, it must be in there SOMEWHERE, right? LOL. You guys kill me.

[ol_dirty_/b/tard]

Ruh-roh, I see Slide is soliciting donations for his little douchebag friend. Slide, you're aware that your little pal will have to file with the State of Alaska in order to legally accept donations of that nature, aren't you?

I think we may have to notify the proper authorities about Gryphen's solicitation of funds for legal and/or political purposes. Doesn't Gryphen also work for AK Children's services? If so, I smell an ethics complaint!

[Jim R]

Give to the "Deviant Schoolteachers for Truth".

[North Dallas Thirty]

LOL.....but before, Bob, you tried to claim that anon had never provided you with anything of the sort.

Now, when something is provided, with proof that you had received it, you try to spin and lie and claim that it's not good enough.

The point was to demonstrate that you are a liar who does not argue in good faith, and it was made. Your flailing attempts to tear anon down at this point are now shown in exactly that light -- that you are dishonest, that you are not arguing in good faith, and that you patently ignore that with which you are presented in an attempt to smear others.

The problem here, Bob, is that you have been humiliated multiple times in the past few days -- first, when you lied and claimed that Obama had never proposed cuts to Medicare, and then when you were outmaneuvered into endorsing and supporting as useful a program which your Barack Obama wants to eliminate.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2009/08/the-jessie-griffin-story-an-update.html?cid=6a00d83451c1db69e20120a4c40275970b#comment-6a00d83451c1db69e20120a4c40275970b

And now, upinak has you even more nailed down as a troll who simply goes from site to site repeating the same Obama Party talking points. As a result, you're simply babbling incoherently and trying to regain some sense of rationality.

Too late.

[North Dallas Thirty]

Actually, since we also can get Slide's IP address, we should post to Slide's local police department that one of their officers is supporting and soliciting donations for a site that makes racist and misogynist remarks.

Certainly Slide's fellow police officers would cover for that, wouldn't they?

[mark l.]

I take slide that you are a big proponent of:

"Your penis will respond more readily if you take it out and put it through its paces more often".

my only question is whether your pants are in the upright position, or warming your ankles.