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Isn't comparing DDT to BPA a bit of apples to oranges, as it is an incontrovertible fact that DDT was every bit as destructive to the enviroment as the environmental lobby said it was, the question is whether the destructiveness of DDT is or should be outweight by its efficacy against malaria, NEVER that DDT didn't 'really' hurt the environment like the tree huggers said it did. In fact, the DDT debate showed pretty clearly that it was the industry that was lying and not the environmentalists.

I've never heard of STATS, so I have some skepticism that they are non biased/.

I read about BPA, & Bisphenol A just a few weeks ago because I am always interested in anything that may cause cancer. I am a cancer survivor (so far) and I also used to wonder about DDT being used years ago but did not realize the banning of it in 1972 was due to a lot of controversy until I read your link about it. Thanks for the link.
It is ashame so many young in underdeveloped countries are dying now of malaria becuase it can't be used anymore.
Maybe that is there way of culling of the population in the world.
I put nothing past this NEW WORLD ORDER BS and all these secret meetings that go on all the time.
Even Gordon Brown not to long ago said the poplulation of the world was too large. Then....came the swine flu. Makes you wonder sometimes why it suddenly appeared. Wonder what ever happened to the investigation about the missing viles of viruses that happened right before the swine flu came to be.
I am not a conspiracy theorist but sometimes you have to wonder.
I do not trust government period, anymore.
That's just me however. People can believe whatever they want. This is still a free country (I think) LOL.

"In fact, the DDT debate showed pretty clearly that it was the industry that was lying and not the environmentalists."

If so, that may be the last instance of that happening.

"...it is an incontrovertible fact that DDT was every bit as destructive to the enviroment [sic] as the environmental lobby said it was...In fact, the DDT debate showed pretty clearly that it was the industry that was lying and not the environmentalists."

Of course, you can back up your assertion can't you, Anon.

"it is an incontrovertible fact that DDT was every bit as destructive to the enviroment as the environmental lobby said it was"

At what concentrations?

Geeze, all you have to do is read the Wikepedia entry on DDT and it gives the information on DDT's toxicity!

"Geeze, all you have to do is read the Wikepedia entry on DDT and it gives the information on DDT's toxicity!"

Hmmmm... does Wikipedia also give the LD50 for water?

The "at what concentrations" question, anon, is known as a "rhetorical question". It's intended to make you think about something more deeply than you normally would. You see, lots of things are poisons -- at the right concentrations. You can die from drinking too much water; you can die if the concentration of oxygen is too high; you can die from getting too much vitamin E.

So the essential question remains: was DDT as horrible as the greens made it out to be? Can it be responsibly used? If so, why the crusade against the chemical and not its abuse?

It depends on what question it is that is being answered, if the question is 'was DDT as damaging to the enviroment as was claimed' then I think the answer is a resounding yes. If the question is whether DDT is 'so bad' that it shouldn't be used or whether its benefits to humans outweighs the damage it does to the environment, then that is something else entirely.

Me, I would err on the side of the environment since there are other, cheaper and less destructive ways of dealing with malaria.

New York City used to spray whole neighborhoods every summer in the Borough of Queens to get rid of mosquitoes which were bigger than the ones in New Jersey. My nieces and nephews thought it was a lot of fun to follow the truck and get lost in the "fog." They are all in their 50's now and not one has contracted cancer, or malaria.

Remember the other ban - Alar - which almost put the apple business out of business.

And the Love Canal.

And that movie, Erin whatshername. Another lie.

Yeah, Lala, I remember all that stuff. It always depends on what group of folks gets set on going after someone or something and how many backers they can get to side with them and believe them and donate the money to start their BS....
Al Gore comes to mind with his BS global warming stuff.

As far as the new lining in cans I began seeing the change quite afew years ago and I thought that it looked different inside those cans.
Maybe that is how the crap with BPA, or Bisphenol A got started. Someone noticed the diffence as I did and began to investigate and then turned a mountain into a molehill.

Our world has changed for the worst with all these folks screaming daily about something. I personally think they are all a bunch of nut cases with too much time on their hands. They hate their lives and are such miserable people that they want everyone else to miserable, too !

I remember mosquito trucks - especially at the NJ shore. They were cool!!

Farmers in Podunk, Africa are misapplying the pesticide. Yes, by all mean let's ban it. There was no readily available replacement. In many places they are still pushing nets above anything else, yet millions have diedfrom malaria.

By all means, let's save that damned tree.

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