Sullivan Has Truly Lost It Over Palin

I'm linking to Macsmind, as he has the Sullivan quote on Palin I wanted to feature.

“My own view is that the mainstream media was absurdly soft on her inconsistencies and lack of qualifications.

Sullivan seems trapped in some unfortunate reality in which he so has to demonize anyone he's opposed to politically, it really does suggest serious emotional issues of some sort. Whatever Sullivan may have been at one point, people who still believe he's even a semi-honest broker in touch with objective reality are just fooling themselves.

No one in their right mind could possibly conclude the above about the media coverage of Sarah Palin and claim to have a genuine appreciation for an objective political reality. And what's even more sad is that the web editors of a once prestigious brand like The Atlantic allow it to go on.

It's beyond funny, into the realm of the sick, or disturbed. And that they apparently don't care enough about their banner to put a stop to it is a genuine disgrace. The shame, more than anywhere else, belongs on them, the editorial staff.

There is nothing professional about this. It is just sad.

Comments

[Slide]

"Herein lies the difference between liberals and conservatives; conservatives have principles."

This is what is so nauseating about the ring wing. You think that you are more principled, more moral, more patriotic than liberals. What a bunch of bull. What is one of the big "principles" of conservatism? Family Values. You wanna go down the list of your principled conservatives? Sure.. why the hell not.

Governor Sanford
Senator Ensign
Senator Vitter
Senator Craig
Congressman Foley
Congressman Fossella
Congressman Livingston
Congresswoman Chenoworth
Congressman Hyde
Congressman Sherwood
Mayor James West
Mayor Guilianni
Congressman Burton

Now, I'm not saying the Dems don't have their scandals.. but we don't say things like, "Herein lies the difference between liberals and conservatives; conservatives have principles. Liberals have principles only when they're convenient."

Bunch of lying hypocrites.

[Ran]

Mr. Riehl,
Anon raises a good point about Republican weakness. That Republicans must re-discover a clear mission may be reinforced by consideration of the nature of the electoral "middle".

"Moderates" and "undecideds" and "centrists" and "independents" - however they may choose to identify themselves - have been denied a necessary Manichaean choice by Republican polytheism.

The one major Party with a core is now the Democrats, and it's straight Left. Denied the choice of a major-party straight Right alternative, a statistical Leftward electoral drift was inevitable. The game is no longer Right v Left, it has morphed into Left v Muddle.

The electoral result becomes a stronger statistical Leftward advantage when that phenomenon is compounded with the fact that Conservatives and Libertarians have been denied clear champions. Why be involved in an electoral process that refuses to represent one's needs?

The New Mediocrity "compassionate conservative" axis-of-anything movement represents no Majority! It can represent at best only a minority of middle-grounders, those of principled confusion. Almost by definition, muddlers reject (or perhaps, fear) the responsibilities of a principled ideological stand. My guts tell me that the majority of muddlers would rather switch votes back-and-forth, that most of them want clear menu choices.

No Right-principled Party can hold permanent sway over the majority of middle-grounders every election. Yet just as the country can drift Left, it can drift Rightwards once more, if and only if Republicans (grow a set and) confidently embrace principled conservative-libertarian values.

The Left-principled party can - and will - hold permanent advantage if Republican leaders fail "to pull the Big Tent down and start taking their platform seriously", (as Neumayr at TAS said) on every issue, with the confidence that bespeaks leadership. It is not enough in these times for Republicans to stand athwart History and yell STOP! One must plant one's heels and shout BACK! and push. Push hard.

[North Dallas Thirty]

"You think that you are more principled, more moral, more patriotic than liberals."

That's because we are.

You see, those conservatives you cited got into deep trouble for what they did, in many cases losing or choosing to resign from their positions.

That's the way principles work; it's not that they are never broken, but that there are consequences for their being broken.

In contrast, there are no consequences from the Obama Party for breaking the law or morals. That's because the Obama Party doesn't believe in principles or values, only in power. Charles Rangel can cheat on his taxes, lie, take junkets, and so forth, and still receive immunity and perfect protection. The political fallout from enforcing the law against him would be too great; therefore, Obama Party leadership, as usual, chooses not to act on principle because it is inconvenient.

[anon]

Perhaps it all goes back to the moral relatavism that is at the heart of the liberal worldview, also to the fact that liberals overall seem to be more emotional than conservatives, they're always outraged over something, and they tend not to think anything through beyond their 'OMG the evil corporations/businesses/military/religious leaders/racists/etc....

That is why most if not all of their domestic policy positions end up being total failures, becuase everything is based on a utopian dreamworld and liberal analysis ends as soon as any truth is revealed that runs counter to their ideas.

Unfortunately, under the Bush Administration Republicans fell prey to this same idealogical disease on a lot of issues...which could lead one to believe its a problem with American society and American culture overall and thus, that is yet another red flag heralding the unavoidable decline of the U.S.

[Slide]

"You see, those conservatives you cited got into deep trouble for what they did, in many cases losing or choosing to resign from their positions" - from the Bizarro World

huh? lol.... Senator Vitter visiting prostitutes and engaging in some pretty bizarre sex still in office and planning to run again, Senator Wide Stance Craig engaging in anonymous homosexual sex in a men's room in an airport did not resign, Senator Ensign "doing" his Chief of Staff's wife (what a guy) and then putting the whole family on the payroll still sitting in the Senate. And of course we have the "I found my soulmate" Gov crying all over the tube vowing to stay in office. Yes, the consequences of sin. Oh, and what is the thing that binds them all (outside of the elicit sex that is)? It was their telling us all what great moral people they were. Family values and the like. Such little punky hypocrites these principled conservatives. Yeah, you are so much better than liberals...lol God do you realize how insanely stupid you sound.

immoral Liberal.

[Ran]

Anon, with you 'till the last point. I'm not sold yet on the inevitability of decay. Sometimes wizened and damaged trunks sprout new branches. We're seeing this in a renewed interest in De Tocqueville and the Founders and Hayek, and new sales of Skousen's "5000 Year Leap."

Your point about Republican failure under Bush - H^ll yes. Nixon, too, was a part of it, and Ford and Bush Sr... But it was Goldwater that paved the way for Reagan who laid down even more roads for the surge of Tea Partiers we see today.

North, with ya. Perhaps "Slide" can explain Timmie Turbo-Tax?

[zaugg]

I get it. Slide is a mentally challenged troll astroturfing his way to his next drunken stupor. Nice.

[Slide]

good retort there zaugg.... I'll just call it a Palinism for short. You betcha !

[templar knight]

"..I'm not saying the Dems don't have their scandals, but we don't say things..."

Speaking of lying hypocrites, wasn't old Slide claiming to be a conservative just a few posts up in this thread? What a tool! You on the Soros payroll, boy?

[Slide]

I never claimed to be a conservative. I even specifically said that i might agree with Jesse Jackson on ideology but that I could never vote for him because I don't think he would be good for the country.

[anon]

There are too many disparate negative threads now running through what remains of American culture for the tide to be turned, decay in my estimation is inevitable, we've already hit the high point and have been on a slow downward slide for the last 20+ years, but like the Roman empire, we've continued to suceed and dominate in some areas. The problems in the U.S. go far beyond Republicans and Democrats or even poltics, though government policies have done a lot to exacerbate and speed our decline.

[North Dallas Thirty]

"huh? lol.... Senator Vitter visiting prostitutes and engaging in some pretty bizarre sex still in office and planning to run again, Senator Wide Stance Craig engaging in anonymous homosexual sex in a men's room in an airport did not resign, Senator Ensign "doing" his Chief of Staff's wife (what a guy) and then putting the whole family on the payroll still sitting in the Senate. And of course we have the "I found my soulmate" Gov crying all over the tube vowing to stay in office. Yes, the consequences of sin."

Funny, you listed thirteen people, and now you can only quote four -- all of which were condemned widely for their behavior, one of which resigned his leadership position and two of which the Republican Party was telling to get lost.

Better yet, you're demonstrating my point; instead of blasting Rangel, you go whining off about how evil Republicans are. Had you the principles you claim to have, you wouldn't need to attack Republicans to attack Rangel, given how obvious his criminal behavior is; however, you're merely demonstrating our point that liberals like yourself have principles only when it's convenient.

It's all about power for liberals. No real morals, no real principles, no real values.

[Slide]

"It's all about power for liberals. No real morals, no real principles, no real values."

After eight years of the most immoral, unprincipled and valueless governance by Republicans, this comment is quite humorous.

[drjohn]

Sullivan has jumped the shark

[templar knight]

I see Slide still can't bring himself to condemn the worthless on his side. Hypocrite much, Slide?

[North Dallas Thirty]

After eight years of the most immoral, unprincipled and valueless governance by Republicans, this comment is quite humorous.

I love it when people who have no morals, principles, or values whine about other people being that way.

Take bribes? No problem, Murtha does.

Cheat on your taxes? No problem, Rangel, Stark, Solis, Sebelius, and Geithner do.

Take sweetheart mortgage deals and lie about their value on official disclosures? No problem, Dodd and Obama do.

Run a prostitution ring out of your house? No problem, Barney Frank did.

And then the puppet Slide shows up to whine and scream about Republicans.

Principles transcend party affiliation, Slide. Obviously, since your Obama Party puts party affiliation first, you have no principles, morals, or values -- other than blind obedience to party.

Watch. You said indefinite detainment of individuals without trial was illegal and unconstitutional and that Bush should have been impeached for even allowing it.

"The Obama administration said Tuesday it could continue to imprison non-U.S. citizens indefinitely even if they have been acquitted of terrorism charges by a U.S. military commission.

Jeh Johnson, the Defense Department's chief lawyer, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that releasing a detainee who has been tried and found not guilty was a policy decision that officials would make based on their estimate of whether the prisoner posed a future threat.

Like the Bush administration, the Obama administration argues that the legal basis for indefinite detention of aliens it considers dangerous is separate from war-crimes prosecutions. Officials say that the laws of war allow indefinite detention to prevent aliens from committing warlike acts in future, while prosecution by military commission aims to punish them for war crimes committed in the past."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/07/detainees-acquitted-free/