Pali-mania Strikes The Right Blogosphere!

Sorry, I just find all this hilarious.

Karl posts a long comment of Ace's about not attacking him just because he isn't all Sarah do or die! And Ed also elects to add an addendum:

Addendum (Ed): Sarah Palin is not an issue. Sarah Palin is not a political principle. Sarah Palin is a politician. If her supporters demand no criticism of a politician, they risk turning Palin and her supporters into nothing more than a cult of personality, the kind we derided with Barack Obama. And it does our friends no favors if we see them going over a cliff and remain silent, or worse yet, cheer them to go faster.

Meanwhile, Stacy weighs in with his thoughts in another post, linking to more of Stacy weighing in with another item at AmSpec. HotAir takes link whoring to whole nother level! ha!

Point being, I can't figure out who the bigger drama queens in all this are - the ultra-Pro Palinistas, the anti-Palin skeptics, or the don't shoot me, I'm just stating my opinion bloggers going on about the Palin-skeptic bashers somehow possessing the ability to marginalize Palin herself.

Dudes and Dudettes, ... it's July 2009. You are all taking this wayyyy too seriously. I wish I thought it was all only about grabbing Palin traffic, but I fear it's worse than that. The woman is starting to make the Right appear as unhinged as the Left. Chill out.

Passions always run high for, or against every major figure out here, it's part of the game. But save some of your game for a day when it actually matters. We'll all know what's what in due time.

Relax. Have some fun! I bet that's what she's doing right now.

Comments

[mark l.]

i have a giddy feeling...

not for palin, but for the verbal suicide that she will bring the left to commit.

she invites libtards to sell out their own principles and beliefs, particularily in regards to women.

I have no qualms about pulling the lever for her, and I can't deny that the last time I had a feeling that good, was reagan 84.

When the left rolls around to decide how to persuade voters in 2010, they are going to go with more palin bashing. A reasoned argument, if it exists given the 'plethora' of experience obama brought to the table, I still haven't heard it. Maniacs with spittle flying from their lips and white foam around the mouth is not the source of a reasoned argument.

I saw a friend of andrew sullivan offer a defense, that dan linked to, of his behavior in regard to palin. If there was ever a time for an intervention, it is coming soon. Thankfully the media has provided a baseline of palin bashing, that will bolster the chances of liberal suicide.

how does singling out an individual who is popular work for the left?

i take it, by the decline in targetting limbaugh, not so good.

[Nishner]

God I hope she's not getting out of politics. Conservatives need to form PACs, sign petitions, send her money, anything to encourage her to run. There's noting that would be more entertaining than having her at the top of the Republican ticket in 2012.

[Ran]

"Relax. Have some fun! I bet that's what she's doing right now."

Dan, great post.

We are going to need a lot of Reagans and Palins in Congress, too, if any sort of roll-back can be effected. That means Tea Partying, annoying your elected reps, supporting State and Federal candidates that back a strong conservative or libertarian agenda, talking to your neighbors... H^ll, B. Hussein Obama can get re-elected but if we swamp Congress, he's duck. The real legislative power is in Congress if we work to recover it. '10 and '12 are not about Palin, they're about POWER.

Get busy. Join the NRA. Show up with some friends at local Republican meetings and "diamond" the room. Have fun kicking local ass.

[Scott]

I am commenting here because it gives me a chance to comment on Ed and Ace at the same time. I mean, Hotair is more difficult to join than those little green footballs thingies, and if you aren't sitting there when Ace hits enter, some 142 Morons have already replied, so save the key strokes, right?

I am a Palinista, though so far I haven't risen up righteous to smite anyone yet. The issue for us is that we have had ten fricking months of lies by both Republicans and Democrats, and the worst personal attacks in my 57 years.. We have been betrayed by "conservatives" who got is into this mess. And Sarah, bless her, didn't act like those "conservatives." So I, perhaps we, had hope, not so much that Palin would be president, but that finally we had someone in the party that we could support, and someone who supported us. A chance to rally around the flag, as it were. The attacks by the socialists, liberals and RINOs were pretty much proof that she wasn't one of them. So when conservatives like Ace and Ed, and Hindraker at Powerline, all conservatives, sound more like Schuster on the resignation than they sounded like us, well, it hurts. And people strike out. What I, perhaps we, fear is that the media can attack any conservative, destroying them in the process, and there will no outrage from either Ed or Ace. Allah? Forget it. They pretty much just reported instead of raged. Fine, it's their blogs.

That being said, the worst person in this mess is McCain. Either he should have said, "I screwed up and should have chosen Lieberman to be my VP", or he should have supported her, which he did not. We knew the election was a very, very, not just very, longshot, no doubt about it, but no one figured on the bottom feeding attacks by the McCain campaign and the MSM.

Lieberman. Wow. That's a real conservative choice,isn't it? See what conservatives have to look forward to?

[Laddy]

I think they are all whoring for traffic. Ace admits he posted his comments immediately so I doubt he actually listened to or bothered to actually analyze what she said. Ed immediately rose to Harriet Miers' defense way back and had to back down so jumping to conclusions is not unusual for him. I do know there is a big gap between the grassroots and the blog pundits, the pro pundits, and the Washington elite. I've about had it with all of them. Ace is now crapping all over Stacy McCain for McCain including ACe in his critique. What a bunch of tittiebabies. All will become clear with Palin as time marches forth. It's her life and her decisions to make, not mine or ours. I've lost mucho respect for many of these people this week. Reagan would not be amused with the attacks on possible Republican candidates.

[nightcrawler]

OK. Palin will, at BEST, be an agitator and a mouthpiece for the Tea Partiers and other conservatives of her stripe.

She will be much less beneficial, but useful still, to the Constitutionalists.

I really cannot see her going for a POTUS bid in 2012, and as Ran says... focusing ourselves on 2010 mid-terms would be where victory lies.

We need to roll back Congress, or at least get closer to a balance where we can stall crappy, lunatic, marxist legislation coming from the extreme left of the socialist Obama Party.

funny too - if him playing kissy-face with Hugo the Red from Venezuela and calling for the restoration of that subversive commie who was ousted from Honduras last week... ain't it obvious where Obama stands?

In the halls of Marx, Engels, and Lenin.

[anon]

While I agree that Palin has been treated disgracefully, I just don't see her as presidential material, I don't see what people are "rallying around" in terms of what she stands from a political, rather than a personal standpoint and I don't see any reason to think she could win the presidency ever, let alone in 2012.

[Laddy]

I doubt she has any intention of running in the immediate future. Why can't we just take her at her word based on her statement. At some point if she wants to run for an office, she'll have to announce and then the dogs of political war can be unleashed once again. People calling her a quitter, just can't seem to get their head around what she said. It seemed perfectly clear to me and others. Could she be concealing her true intentions? Anything's possible, buy why not wait and see what develops before trashing her?

[Dan Riehl]

I agree with you on McCain's non-role in all this. Just one more nail in his political coffin, as far as I'm concerned.

As for various bloggers, one has to think about where they are coming from. It's true that Palin has some things to prove, I've said as much, though I'm pretty supportive of her.

I can't speak for any particular blogger, but I think some see themsleves as voices of a media nowadays first and foremost. Their interested in a perceptive of credibility, or objecivity geared toward earning them props in the media world. Others see themselves as more openly conservative first, or partisan, in a sense. That's how I tend to see myself, anyway.

I won't lie to support someone, or try to mislead. I just post my thoughts. But, there's no mistaken, I'm playing for the hometeam. That's why I blog.

As for ALlah, Who knows? I don't know that he has ever said he was conservative. You'd have to ask him. I have mostly always seen him as aligned with the Right around the war on terror. Whatever his reasons, he tweaks movement types at HA far too often to see him as apart of it.

Even if one isn't of the Christian Right, can you be a political conservative as defined today in America and an atheist? Given that the Founders were pretty explicit about investing our natural rights in a concept of God, it might be hard to argue you can be both. But that doesn't mean one can't be Right-leaning.

Whether he is even that, you'd have to ask him. And also agree on what the words mean, I guess. We don't always even do that out here.

[tim maguire]

I think much of the inappropriate reaction of Palin supporters is panic--a lot of hopes were placed on her shoulders and there's no one else at the moment to take on that role. The Republican bench is not deep, at least if you want the Republicans to return to their roots.

She may be able to run for President one day, but it won't be her next job. Americans don't like quitters in politics so she's got to do something else well and put some distance between herself and this resignation before she can make a go of it (which may have been necessary anyway, all things considered, but now it is an absolute).

[anon]

What hopes? Again, who in their right mind thought she was going to be a credible force in the 2012 presidential election?

I get that people like her story and that she is magnetic, I like her, but I can also see that she is greener than a freshman congressman from a no name district in terms of national politics.

The ONLY way resigning mid-term on July 4th weekend makes any sense is if she is really done w/running for public office herself.

If she writes a great book, which I am doubtful of since she does not appear to have the patience needed, and gives some good speeches on the lecture circuit then she can continue to be a force in politics....but going from now a governor who resigned for no solid reason halfway through her term who the media and the left harbor a burning hatred to the presidency is not realistic.

[Danimal]

A lot of the rabidness of pro-Palin people is understood, for one specific reason: They see these people as continuing the attacks against Palin that happened during the '08 election. And they're just pretty sick of it.

For someone like myself, I ignore them and go to places that actually have good analysis of what's going on. And I leave a place for Ace, HotAir, and others, when I want to find out info that is not palin-related.

Ed, Allahpundit, and Ace all have vested interests in other candidates. And, let's just say, they're not happy that they are getting kicked in the nuts by people...

[Bear1909]

Palin's resignation is a shot across the bow. She has been given some sage advice and will be groomed for a longstanding influence in the rebuild of the conservative movement. Rebuild the movement and the GOP will follow. This will be from the ground up. Stay tuned. In the meantime, let's continue to watch the unraveling of the mainstream media as their Boy Emperor poops in the bed over and over again, becomes more irrelevant overseas, and prepares himself to be deposed by impeachment and exposure of his fraudulent occupation of the Oval Office.

Bear1909 out.

[Dan Riehl]

"The ONLY way resigning mid-term on July 4th weekend makes any sense is if she is really done w/running for public office herself."

That would be the conventonal wisdom. But the fact remains, she could not run competitively in 2012 if she served out her term. And that IS a fact.

Romney, Huckabee. Gingrich and possibly others will be using the mid-tems to build alliances and a national infrastructure for 2012. Being in Alaska would freeze her out in that sense.

Does that mean she WILL run? I have no idea. But if she stayed governor through 2010 she would have found herself at such a disadvatage, it is possible to argue that she had to pull the plug. Add in the harassment and the dollar cost of the attacks, and a reasonable person can get to a point where resigning was the better of two non-ideal alternatives.

Too many people are underestimating the importance of 2012, especially with three probable contenders already out there making hay every day.

[Lee Stewart]

I 'm putting $$ on she will run for the Alaska Senate seat coming up in 2010. Get the same type experience as Obama as a Senator and then do something either as Pres. or VP in 2012. Worked for Obama, why not for her?

[William Teach]

I hate to say awesome post, one of those no no's off commenting, but, awesome post. People do need to take a chill pill regarding the whole Palin issue, and wait and see what comes.

Sometimes, I think we on the right can go overboard, too. Remember the hu hu with Harriet Myers, someone we pretty much knew nothing about? OK, sure, those folks who freaked out initially were correct, but, how did they know that in the first 10 minutes?

[Ran]

"but, how did they know that in the first 10 minutes?"

William, yeah... in fairness though, by the time that first ten minutes had rolled around we were damned tired of Bush's "compassionate" RINOsinestrism. Recall Karen Hughes, Rove and the other squishes around him? His Dad? It was a real miracle that we got Alito and Roberts.

[Chris]

Senate run? No way. That woould be a huge mistake. The thing I don't get is why is it ok for some governors to quit (Sebelius, Napolitano, and Huntsman come immediately to mind) but not for Palin. Again, not Palin's biggest fan but no one questions when the Kansas or Arizona governors bug out on their constituents but when Palin does it she's portrayed as having lost it.

[Gary Ogletree]

It's General Palin now. Putting together the CP.

[Nathan Cossey]

Dan I know one Atheist who is on the right he's conservative with a a large libertarian streak but most definitely on the right to some of the other conservatives I know. Mind you I am further than hes is particularly on social issues but harbor the same if quite a bit smaller streak.

[Dan Riehl]

Well, just for the record, I wasn't arguing anyone isn't conservative, Nathan - just found it an interestin premise. I suppose one could be one, simply not an "originalist," which is a different matter. But even then, it's largely a matter of semantics.

To the extent I am aware of where folks like Alah and Ace stand, it's on the Right. But that can mean anything. I call myself a conservative, but am not a die hard social conservative. Not exactly a libertarian in that sense, either.

As I believe I said, first we'd have to agree on what the words actually mean. And I don't know as we all can do that.

The people questioning Palin don't bother me so much. But I do find the conventional wisdom that she's somehow done unconvincing. What people think about why she resigned a year from now matters. What they think of it today, less so. Maybe I'm just in the never say never school on most things. It's always a risky proposition. Just ask Hillary. I always saw Obama as unelectable for many reasons, including his middle name. I didnt' take into account the refusal of the media to allow anyone to say it without a political cost to themselves.

Not saying she will, but Palin could do an hour of TV with whomever, explore the issue in depth and come away absolved. Stranger things have happened. Remember Bill Clinton and Gennifer Flowers circa 1992 in New Hampshire. The dude was dead. AN hour of TV later he was still on his way to the Presidency. It's just too soon to know too much about Palin one way or the other.

[Alex]

This whole subject is getting tedious.

[JSF]

A long, long time ago (actually starting in '85 when I was 15), I learned from old democratic party Machine types on how to treat opponents. The rules were plain and simple (in fact, right wing loon Tip O'neill wrote them in his book, All Politics is Local):

Never attack a family of a politician. Period (unless the wife goes onto the partisan battlefield, the kids will always defend their parents).

Never attack a politician on a sickbed or a deathbed.

And American politics stops at the water's edge.

I'm sorry to see members of my old party have broken all three rules in the past 8 years. And surprise, suprise, the election of 08 eneded a few months ago, the inauguration was back in Jan.....BUT DEMOCRATS, PROGRESSIVES AND THEIR FRIENDS IN THE MEDIA CONTINUED TO ATTCK GOV. PALIN AND HER FAMILY.

The right wing nut Tip O'neill is rolling over in his grave.

Why shouldn't the Right go after Malia and Sasha the way Andrew Sullivan has been given a free ride?

[gary gulrud]

I don't believe Ace and Ed get enough criticism let alone believe their self-serving 'What me?'. They are intellectual light-weight pantywaists on a good day.

Independents are a third of the electorate and we've marked the GOP for co-opting, deal with it.

[Elmo]

It's called guts, integrity, and leadership. What I know bout the Guv, won't fill a thimble. But I will take what's in it. Anyday. Anytime.

Giving credit where due: Michael Steele got the ball rolling (Thank You Sir). Sarah's givng it a little push along as well. Where exactly it goes?

The Mohammedan from Mombasa IS a lame duck. History. Finished business. 2012's already here.