Obama: The First Anti-American President

The need to continue to dance around it is growing silly. Obama is Jimmy Carter on steroids, without the homespun Southern meme. From traditional American economics, to our traditional role in world affairs, Obama is not a fan of a traditionally American worldview. He's the anti-Reagan, in that sense. And only fear of being politically incorrect prevents more people from saying it.

Liz Cheney calls him out on his latest episode of undermining America in the world's eyes, because Obama sees America as just another country, with no special place in world history. He is a revisionist in the broadest sense. Don't look for it to stop anytime soon. From undermining the nation economically - to militarily and morally, his new vision for America is increasingly clear with each passing day. He seeks to re-invent us as less than what we are because, to his Leftist mind, it's somehow more.

It is irresponsible for an American president to go to Moscow and tell a room full of young Russians less than the truth about how the Cold War ended. One wonders whether this was just an attempt to push "reset" -- or maybe to curry favor. Perhaps, most concerning of all, Mr. Obama believes what he said.

Mr. Obama's method for pushing reset around the world is becoming clearer with each foreign trip. He proclaims moral equivalence between the U.S. and our adversaries, he readily accepts a false historical narrative, and he refuses to stand up against anti-American lies.

The approach was evident in his speech in Moscow and in his speech in Cairo last month. In Cairo, he asserted there was some sort of equivalence between American support for the 1953 coup in Iran and the evil that the Iranian mullahs have done in the world since 1979. On an earlier trip to Mexico City, the president listened to an extended anti-American screed by Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega and then let the lies stand by responding only with, "I'm grateful that President Ortega did not blame me for the things that occurred when I was 3 months old."

Comments

[ECM]

This is all correct, but it was also painfully obvious to anyone paying even half a bit of attention during the campaign.

Of course, as you noted, political correctness prevented pretty much everyone (including McCain) from point this out.

[mark l.]

"I'm grateful that President Ortega did not blame me for the things that occurred when I was 3 months old."

good for him. i tend to share the same rxn towards slavery. my grandparents emigrated circa 1900.

[SacTownMan]

The great Xerxes cares ONLY about one thing.... himself!

This is one F'd up MoFo!!

His self view is distorted by the adoration that the Pravda media shows him.

Just question the little man and you see his snippy "I won" side!

His ego will certainly be crushed when he is another "one term and out president" with a legacy of being even more destructive to America than Carter!

What a POS!!!

[jakee308]

And only fear of being politically incorrect called rascists prevents more people from saying it.

So, I'll say it: Obama is part of a large minority (now there's an oxymoron for you) within the Black population that has NEVER felt a part of this nation or had any gut-felt affection or affinity to it's ideals or pride in it's accomplishments. Michelle and Rev. Wright let that cat out of the bag last year.

They have taken the idea to heart that they were "stolen" from their "true" land of origin and any and all calamities have thus occurred because of that theft. They never see any of the blessings that they reap here in this country and if they do think about it feel entitled to the benefit due to their dislocation.

(It doesn't matter that Hussein and Michelle have lived a life filled with privilege and have benefited by the struggles and injuries of others. They have absorbed the Black Nationalist mindset.)

[wally sandaver]

"Anti-American." Riehl, why not just use the term Coulter and Rush use, "treasonous?" That is exactly the sentiment that you are trying stir up in your readers isn't it? And what is the source of this anti-American treason? Well, let's see Lynn Cheney complains that a very serious violation of Federal law is going to be investigated. Um, that is what happens in countries with rule of law instead of rule of mullahs. Here, we investigate a possible refusal to report to congress on CIA covert operations that may have included assasination.

And Lynn Cheney - who is about as rational as Michele Bachman - lies in claiming that Obama equated the overthrow of Mossadegh with the mullahs. Obama admitted the CIA overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh and said that OUTFALL of the U.S. overthrow of Mossadegh LED TO the funding and support of violent middle eastern groups by the mullahs. The U.S. overthrew the democratically elected government of Mohammed Mossadegh for oil money and this so enraged Iranians, they let the awful mullhas into power. This history is so noncontroversial, the connection so clear, it is amazing that you would call someone un-American for admitting what actually happened.

Henry Grady, the U.S. ambassador to Iran in 1952 and a tough Anti Soviet containment expert, was against the coup for exactly those reasons - a later counter coup would be bad for U.S. interests. And that is what happened. I suppose that John Service and John Davies were also "UnAmerican" for predicting that the Kuomingtang was weak and that the communists would win in China. History's a bitch no?

[Sally]

America's just another country but it's been blessed with an awesomely special President, yes? We are undeserving but God has chosen to reward us anyway.

[IslamoLlama]

Hahaha. You guys are a freak'n riot. Keep the laughs coming.

[Troll Hunter]

Sure, Lame. Post some more.

[Nishner]

Lynn Cheney complaining about someone undermining America. That's hilarious.

[Dan Riehl]

"the sentiment that you are trying stir up in your readers isn't it?"

No, Wally, it isn't. Just because someone has a different view of what America has been, is, and should always be, it doesn't make them treasonous. I was careful to address that in my last sentence: "because, to his Leftist mind, it's somehow more."

He believes the alternative is better, so that isn't actually treasonous. Like most Leftist, in his view, it would be an improvement. They are wrong, but not treasonous in that sense.

[TJ]

You are wrong. You suck. Go take a long walk off of a short pier.

[Ran]

Dan,
Eric Dondero (http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com/) points to a YouTube of Russians blatantly snubbing Obama. YouTube link shows the same brutal snubbing in Saudi Arabia.

The thing is this: Obama's deliberate snubbing of our Constitution and this nation's honor is felt as precedent and justifications for our enemies and competitors to do likewise. The sad adolescence of Obama's attitudes - his wearing "please like me" on his sleeve - puts the US in a temporary power and negotiation disadvantage. (Temporary, because BHO is a one-termer.) I'm concerned for South Korea, Israel, Japan, Taiwan, even Turkey... America's friends, trading partners and regional allies have got to be taking sober, deep breaths.

[Slide]

For the first time in a long long time I am proud of the president of my country. I think most Americans feel as I do and the relief of not being embarrassed anymore every time our president opened his mouth is quite a new and enjoyable feeling.

VIVA REVOLUTION TEABAGGERS

[Lala]

Ran, your link didn't work for the handshake snub try this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1C_NWMRs8Q&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mofopolitics.com%2F2009%2F07%2F13%2Fvideo-obama-russian-handshake-snub%2F&feature=player_embedded

[Lala]

His TOTUS crashed today.

[Ran]

Thanks Lala.

Oh goodie! Let's see: Wally - check. Islamollama - check. Nishner - check. Slide - check.

Let me guess... a full moon?

[Bob]

Another load of tiresome horseh*t from the wing-nut demagogues. Here's an excerpt of Obama's Cairo speech:

"Just as Muslims do not fit a crude stereotype, America is not the crude stereotype of a self-interested empire. The United States has been one of the greatest sources of progress that the world has ever known. We were born out of revolution against an empire. We were founded upon the ideal that all are created equal, and we have shed blood and struggled for centuries to give meaning to those words - within our borders, and around the world. We are shaped by every culture, drawn from every end of the Earth, and dedicated to a simple concept: E pluribus unum: "Out of many, one."

I think it goes both to the dishonesty of extremist conservatives like Liz Cheney and Riehl, as to the basic decency of Obama, that they're left trying to make up such ridiculous and far-fetched accusations against him. Why not just accuse him of being a child-molester? You obviously don't care about facts or fairness. I think it's exactly this kind of hysterical, extremist rhetoric that has led so many people to simply stop taking the right wing seriously any more. It's about as interesting and enlightening as watching someone bite the head off of a chicken, not that there aren't a few people around that LIKE that sort of thing.

[Troll Hunter]

HEY, RAN:

Bob - check.

Yeah. It's a full moon. Awwoooooooohhh! Yeah, well, considering Bob's fetish for dead chickens, maybe it's something Dan left on the porch? For a guy who doesn't take the "right wing seriously any more" he sure gets frothy. Hmmmm. Dan, what the h^ll are lacing those dead chickens with, anyway?

[Bob]

Of course Troll Hunter could have responded with substance and debated the point like a grown-up. But he chose juvenile taunting instead. What a perfect encapsulation of ALL the conservative movement has to offer. They're like people standing knee-deep in a bucket of their own poo, throwing it at passers-by and laughing as if their targets are the ones who look stupid.

[wally sandaver]

Riehl, I don't understand. First you call Obama the first UnAmerican President. Then you say that all you are trying to say is that Obama has a different vision from you of what American is and was. Agreed. So doesn't that mean in a democracy that one respects what the other person ACTUALLY says as opposed to what you claim to know goes on inside his head. And this because he acknowledged the CIA coup against Mossadegh? A historical fact.

[Slide]

I guess left and right have completely different ideas of what constitutes being anti or pro American. You see from my perspective the complete disdain the Cheney/bush administration showed for our Constitution was as anti-American as it gets - even with their little flag pins in the lapels.

[Bob]

"Riehl, I don't understand. First you call Obama the first UnAmerican President. Then you say that all you are trying to say is that Obama has a different vision from you of what American is and was. Agreed."

Wally, isn't it obvious that Riehl wants to have it both ways? He wants to imply that Obama is a traitor who literally hates America; he wants to imply that citizen action under their 2nd Amendment rights will accomplish with violence what the conservatives are unable to accomplish through the ballot box. But when push comes to shove, he always equivocates. Oh no, he didn't really mean it that way. Well he did. It's the same thing as conservatives using code-phrases to refer to racial minorities. It's a dog-whistle to their wing-nut constituency, but they like to have "plausible deniability" whenever possible, so they don't have to admit to what a hateful ideology they espouse.

[narciso]

Actually no, the Shah fell twenty five years later, because he had angered the merchants (bazaaris) and the mullah, one with his land reform plan, which dispossessed small landowners
and his overly secular social policies. One would think that Mossadegh's crew would have filled the vaccuum, but the Ayatollah who had been in exile in Najaf, Iraq, for 15 years, returned after his very short stint in Paris,
What does this have to do with the price of tea in China, the mullahs and the Revolutionary Guard are the main player in Iran now

[Slide]

Exactly Bob. From now on Dan will be known as Dan "Dog Whistle" Riehl.

[Lala]

Leftists always have a reading problem. It's Anti-American not UnAmerican.

[North Dallas Thirty]

"Of course Troll Hunter could have responded with substance and debated the point like a grown-up. But he chose juvenile taunting instead."

Or, more precisely, he responded in kind to what was being provided by you, Bob.

Classic example.

First the liberal whines:

"So doesn't that mean in a democracy that one respects what the other person ACTUALLY says as opposed to what you claim to know goes on inside his head."

And then the liberal follows with (emphasis mine):

"He wants to IMPLY that Obama is a traitor who literally hates America; he wants to IMPLY that citizen action under their 2nd Amendment rights will accomplish with violence what the conservatives are unable to accomplish through the ballot box. But when push comes to shove, he always equivocates. Oh no, he didn't really mean it that way. WELL HE DID. It's the same thing as conservatives USING CODE-PHRASES to refer to racial minorities."

So we have here liberals insisting that you must respect what a person actually says -- then basing their rants on what they claim is going on in peoples' heads versus what they actually said.

I don't know why they expect us to respect their own rules when they clearly don't even follow them themselves.

[Bob]

"I don't know why thems respect us expect theirs own rulez when thems clearly duttn' even follow them them them own rulez themselves."

That's not true, North Dallas. I always try to be as scrupulous as possible when interpreting what other people say. You will NEVER catch me misquoting or misinterpreting ANYONE, EVER! I SWEAR! And if I'm ever forced by necessity to read someone else's mind, I will always do it in good faith. There!

[WBestPresidentEver]

The man if that is what you want to call him is pathetic !

Wonder why he did not ask the people in AFRICA when he was there and visited (Cape Coast Castle, one of Africa's biggest former slave trading posts)
why they sold their own people off ? HA....!

[MS]

Not one of the leftist idiots above responded to what Cheney was actually writing. Respond to what she said. Respond to what Dan wrote. Obama says one paragraph that was decent in the Cairo speech, and laced the rest of it with half-truths and lies about Arabs and Islam.

His admin has already fucked the Constitution so he could get re-elected, with the moving the Census to the Executive branch, and has take over in Fascist style GM and Chrysler.

But where is his real pride in America and its past? Sure, we can pick out the bad parts and make THAT the narrative, as he is doing in Russia; the speech where he said that Russia essentially CHOSE to end the Cold War out of some reasoned goodness, and NOT because Reagan and others stood firm and forced the Russians to finally confront their own inner rot, was total crap. NO accolades for America.

Fist bumping with that Leftist piece-of-shit Chavez. Bowing to the Saudi King (the defender of Hussein O's holy places?). Yeah, and that ignoring the Iranian revolution...oh wait, he was "deliberating"...whereas Reagan (yes, not a saint, that's not the point, but it's the contrast on THIS point that is important) pronounced words of comfort to the dissidents inside the Soviet Union (look up what Natan Sharansky said, how Sharansky and others were heartened and strengthened by Reagan's words); the deliberate...or was it the utter and incomprehensibly dimwitted actions with the British.

It's against everything America has stood for. Mossadegh's overthrow a mistake? Sure, and did we make many others, too many? Sure, I won't bother arguing it. But who else ever fought for freedom. What's the balance of our actions over time?

This country freed up more people than any country in history. But we have this putz who can't make a fucking decent speech with his TOTUS, a fool, a psychopath who lies about EVERYTHING ("The stimulus is doing just what we intended". Oh wait, that might not be a lie. He really DID mean for all those people to be out-of-work and dependent on teh one's greatness.).

I actually think the man is treasonous. He warms up to and gives succor to our enemies, or doesn't want to bother them too much, but our friends? Eh, not much. Doesn't seem to like 'em. Capitalism? Oh, why bother when you can ruin the country with a combo of fascism and Marxism. (And don't tell us about how capitalism ruined the economy; we don't have free markets, and much of the blame lies WITH government for the mess we are in. But whatever mess it was, however bad it was, Obama is leading us over the cliff edge...we made a trillion in debt for the first time ever, and will go to 2 million in short order.

This has nothing to do with Bush, Cheney etc. It's about who and what Hussein Karl Obama is, a Marxist Muslim who never grew up from his fucked-up, mixed-up growing up in a dysfunctional way, and now wants to inflict this combo of pathologic narcissism and Chicago Democrat machine politics and Bill Ayers-Leftist cant on the rest of us.

[DaveinPhoenix]

Any questions about that birth certificate now ?

[Bob]

"Not one of the leftist idiots above responded to what Cheney was actually writing. Respond to what she said. Respond to what Dan wrote. Obama says one paragraph that was decent in the Cairo speech, and laced the rest of it with half-truths and lies about Arabs and Islam."

Right. This coming from someone who refers to Obama as "Hussein Karl Obama . . . a Marxist Muslim." Because, MS, you have SO much to teach the rest of us about listening respectfully to what the other side is saying. LOL.

[Rich K]

Bravo to all our pet trolls here. You have responded as we expect and better than usual. Even used actual factoids to make your bullit points.
I am always impressed with how effectine our Dan is at attracting alternative viewponts to his memes but you guys really served up a steaming dish tonight.
Now just as a silly aside to all this love being spread here I wanted to say what a grand thread our Dan could start with examining the idea of Sarah and Liz teaming up for a run as potus and veep. My mind swirls at the thought of all the hillarity that will pour out here over such a concept.
Happy Dreams all.

[Bob]

Thanks, Rich. If petty insults were dollar bills, you'd have the economy back on its feet in no time. But if you have anything of any significance to share, please don't be so shy in the future.

[David R. Graham]

Strong concur with Rich K, this post really did bring out the trolls. Most delightful, spot on, revealed their weak point: their Anti-American/Un-Americanism. So that point is press-able, it works.

The Anti-Americanism of this poacher in the White House (i.e. Michelle, who wears the pants in the family) should have been remarked ceaselessly since June 2008 at least. Afro-Mohammedan Imperialism is its real name. Anti/Un-Americanism simply goes with that territory.

"Political correctness" is a euphemism for sucking up to collectivists -- PostModern Utopians/Anarchists/Tribalists or Mohammedans -- in hopes of maintaining name, fame and income. It has never been otherwise.

And there is this: A member of our United States Armed Forces, an acquaintance of mine and whose current duty station is in Washington, D.C., has been up close and personal with the most inclusive possible sampling of the political class for a year now and says that none of them, of either party, is in touch with what is going on in the country, nor cares to be, nor ever will want to be.

I surmise this as the reason the Governor of Alaska will campaign for whomever, of either party, actually cares about the Citizens of the Republic. Neither Michelle nor her mouthpiece TOTUS nor the congregation of trolls this post pulsed give a damn about anyone's soul. Sarah does and so do many more.

[Slide]

oh boy, aren't our little wingnuts in an angry and foul mood these days. The name calling, the insults, the spitting invective is about all they have. They see a President that is not playing by their rules. He is not up and withering away in the face of the de rigeur attacks on his love of country. And what's more, the American public is not buying the attacks. They LOVE our President. (64% v 30% Favorable v Unfavorable according to FOX NEWS POLL) and they simply ADORE the first lady, (73% v 16% Favorable v Unfavorable according to FOX NEWS POLL). Ouch that must smart in wingnutdom.

They tried with the flag pin flap.

They tried with the no hand over his heart during Pledge of Allegiance kerfuffle.

They tried with the "palling around with terrorists" smears.

They tried with Michele's "really proud of American" meme.

They tried with the birth certificate comedy.

They tried with the "lets use his middle name, Hussein" tactic.

the smile at Chavez, the bow to the Saudi King, the Iran unrest, speeches in Russia, yada yada yada.

It goes on and on. We got the drill boys and girls.

And they will undoubtedly continue , as this thread so aptly demonstrates, to attack our President on patriotism because they know that on just about every single issue the American public stands squarely with the President and not with the Limbaugh/Hannity/Coulter/Riehl contingent.

What else to do? Well, armed insurrection of course, but Riehl already hinted at that course of action in a prior post now didn't he?

[xerocky]

"Right. This coming from someone who refers to Obama as "Hussein Karl Obama . . . a Marxist Muslim." Because, MS, you have SO much to teach the rest of us about listening respectfully to what the other side is saying. LOL."

Yet, the fact remains that any of the trolls have yet to respond to what L. Cheney said.

Obama said in Moscow recently "the cold war reached a conclusion because of the actions of many nations over many years, and because the people of Russia and Eastern Europe STOOD UP(?) and decided that it's end would be peaceful"

"We welcome change and openness; for we believe that freedom and security go together, that the advance of human liberty can only strengthen the cause of world peace. There is one sign the Soviets can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall![36]"
Ronald Reagan
at the Brandenberg Gate June 12, 1987

After that On August 23, 1989, Hungary removed its physical border defences with Austria, and in September more than 13,000 East German tourists in Hungary escaped to Austria.

The border was lifted because the empire was bankrupt, not because anyone decided to be peaceful. If they still had operating funds, those people would never have had the chance to flee, and if they did, they clearly would have been killed.

When folks say that Obama is an anti American president, it's because of his failure to basicly deliniate between how great the United States IS, and how not so great other countries ARE NOT. He does this quite often, and the fact that none of the trolls on this board can see that proves that their view of the world is just as one sided.

[Slide]

xerocky demonstrating the superficiality and simplicity of wingnut philosophy: "When folks say that Obama is an anti American president, it's because of his failure to basicly deliniate between how great the United States IS, and how not so great other countries ARE NOT. He does this quite often, and the fact that none of the trolls on this board can see that proves that their view of the world is just as one sided."

so the President, when he visits foreign countries, should arrogantly tell them how great America is and how they are not? That is your foreign policy prescription? lol ok. I'm sure Hillary and Obama will take your advise into consideration.

[Slide]

xerocky is soooooo articulate ain't he? " . . . and how not so great other countries ARE NOT."

huh?

[Rob Crawford]

"Here, we investigate a possible refusal to report to congress on CIA covert operations that may have included assasination. "

Except that it never happened. NOTHING WAS EVER DONE.

Under the rule of law, you do not investigate (and presumably, prosecute) actions that never occurred.

Of course, I don't expect lefties to understand the rule of law. At least, not anymore.

[Rob Crawford]

"You see from my perspective the complete disdain the Cheney/bush administration showed for our Constitution..."

Never happened.

Good Lord, have you EVER poked your head out of the dream world you inhabit?

[Rob Crawford]

" It's the same thing as conservatives using code-phrases to refer to racial minorities."

Another lefty fantasy heard from.

[Rob Crawford]

"The name calling, the insults, the spitting invective is about all they have."

Here we see Slide projecting. Project Slide, project!

[Ran]

Rob,
Wally, Islamollama, Nishner, and Bob do, on occasion attempt genuine comment, though the manner of pollution with silly invective is a constant.

Slide - this guy's on his own. Never yet made a single substantive comment.

I wonder if any of them are A) Adults over 19 years of age, B) Gainfully employed in private industry or

C) Have ever read the Constitution's Founders... Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Washington? What about Burke? Later writers such as Hayek or Reagan?

Not one of them appreciates that G-d is the source of our Natural Rights and personal responsibilities. None of them appear to understand that the Constitution is NOT the source of any Rights. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights simply outline which Rights the Government has no powers to infringe.

[Obama acknowledged it in his '96 Chicago NPR interview. He went on to describe how the Constitution must be fundamentally re-constructed away from protecting individual rights to something that provides for groups.]

Confront one of them with basic facts, and all you'll get in return is a tall tale of your bombast and your having said nothing, blah blah.

Look, these guys are not winning any arguments here. Wally and Bob stand a chance at reason if they'd bother to start with Cicero's concept of Natural Rights. Then they'd have to accept the concept of a Creator... do they want to go there?

Nish, Slide, Llama - complete fail. Hell, I pay more in taxes than these three parasites earn in a year, combined. Sure sucks to be them.

[Rob Crawford]

I'm just sick of the bigotry that passes as wisdom on the left. Hell, I doubt they're even aware that they ARE bigots, and consider their prejudices "just the way it is".

[seekeronos]

Obama is whatever it takes for him to gain and keep power.

He is a Marxist to the ACORNites and the Chavezes and the Zelayas and the Castros.

He is a brother Musulman to the Arabs and the Mullahs in Persia.

He is a globalist/internationalist who wants to decrease America's role (in the eyes of Old Europe and Russia) as "the Lone Superpower" and thus bring about the multi-polar century (as opposed to the PNAC idea of a "new American Century", or the questionable stability of a Chinese century).

His one remarkable quality is that of a puppet, dancing happily to whatever tune is played, and whatever strings are pulled, by his Illuminatist masters.

To the degree that his actions have thus far been against the long-standing paradigm of American leadership in the Free World go, he is very much "Anti-" American.

Most people neglect to consider that the prefix "anti-" has two meanings: the first, and perhaps more common meaning, is that of something in opposition to another thing - essential an opposite. Sort of like matter vs. antimatter.

The other, less used meaning is that of "substitution".

In short, Obama's anti-Americanism is less about being opposed to America per se, but rather, I see it as He wishes to replace the vision of America we have known throughout most of our lives (post WW2/Cold War generation primacy in the world) with a multi-polar, globalist, humanist sort of tripe that would see American sovereignty made as much of a subject to global governance, with its relevance reduced to the same sort of insignificance as States' Rights are today, relative to the aftermath of the Civil War.

It follows then - whether his anti-Americanism is a matter of subversion and substitution, or outright opposition, it is not entirely far away from being UN-American, much as his fellow travelers were in the era of the Red Scares of the 1950s.

And while the issue of birth certificates and his citizenship are somewhat suspect, it would all the more point to his lack of empathy for the United States as a nation as compared to his empathy for the United States as a nation with no particular place in a vast sea of nations in a global community.

In short, he will not hesitate to see the USA reduced to third-world status (we are already well on that path, by the way) to acheive his masters' goals of removing the one nation most likely to stand in the way of the Illumanist's millennia-old struggle to see the masses of humanity suborned under the mailed fist of the hyper-elites.

Just as Nimrod - better known to us as Sargon the Akkadian, the emperor who thought he could bring his throne to the Holy Heaven of Almighty God Himself, when he commanded (most) of humanity to build that tower at Babel which to this day is but a heap of rocks and rubble... so also will this modern-day Nimrod, Barack Hussein Obama, seek to grind up any nation that stands in the path of his demoniacally driven masters... especially a nation with a significant Christian minority.

[Mike2Cents]

I just don't get how Liz C. et al can extrapolate from "because the people of Russia and Eastern Europe stood up" that Obama is somehow re-writing history and giving short shrift to America's role here.
He is commenting on the fact that "the PEOPLE stood up".
He is not denying "that the Soviets ran a brutal, authoritarian regime. The KGB killed their opponents or dragged them off to the Gulag. There was no free press, no freedom of speech, no freedom of worship, no freedom of any kind." Wow, Liz...thanks for the history lesson. I'm sure the President will be just shocked when he finds out about this.
Following the roses thrown at her feet by the right following her "I'll protect your forever tainted legacy, Daddy!" talk show/press tour, Liz Cheney now feels 'emboldened' to put forth the absurd premise that Obama is 'anti-american' and 'who accepts...our enemies lies about us'.
This sounds like something you hear from some Idaho militia conspiracy nutjob...
and she's one of the new guiding lights of 'conservatism'?
I guess it's understandable that her feelings got hurt by Obama laughing off her dad's ominous fear-mongering...but she should back off fighting his losing battles for him.
It's kinda sad to see.
Oh, those wacky Cheneys...can we miss them yet....please?

[Slide]

Ran starts off his post with "Slide - this guy's on his own. Never yet made a single substantive comment."

And ends with this substantive comment of his own: "Nish, Slide, Llama - complete fail. Hell, I pay more in taxes than these three parasites earn in a year, combined. Sure sucks to be them."

What utter schoolyard childishness. Ran of course knows nothing of my income, nor I imagine the other individuals he mentions, but that never stops a wingnut from throwing aspersions and insults. Now really, would anyone respect the opinions of someone who wrote such an infantile comment as this? The wingnuts are truly an interesting little subset of humanity.

[Rich K]

Hey Bob,Thanks for proving to all and sundry here that you are indeed the troll we claim as you stepped right up to the plate on my comment.
This is just way to easy.
And thanks to Mr crawford for doing the work on the actual content of thier screeds.

[Ran]

I went all ad-hominem and meant it. Glad you took it personally. Back in the tube, pal.

[North Dallas Thirty]

Ran of course knows nothing of my income, nor I imagine the other individuals he mentions, but that never stops a wingnut from throwing aspersions and insults.

Well, since you and Wally were able to magically discern that all of us are racist white males based on nothing more than our opposition to Obama, it seems perfectly fine for Ren to discern your income on a similar basis.

That is, again, if you had any morals, values, or principles. But as always, you have none.