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I suggest everyone read Officer Crowley's report. In it he names several other officers who were witnesses to the incident, as well as the woman who called in the B&E. All of them will have had to fill out written reports that the DA would have seen. If Crowley's report varied in any notable way from those others the DA of the People's Republic of Cambridge would have publicly apologized to Gates and to Harvard and made Crowley fall on his sword. If Gates pursues this "legally" those reports will be part of the public court record.

As to why Gates is back at Harvard--Larry Summers, who had asked Gates to do some real academic work in exchange for the prestige of a Harvard University office and is lucre, was forced out.

As to Barak Obama, I held my nose and voted for the mean old guy.

I have to think since the Gates quetion was asked by a reporter from Chicago that he knows well, that he wanted to asnwer it.

So, from there I can either assume that he purposefully chose to call police stupid, or that when he is not scripted in advance he makes these kinds of gaffs.

All he would have to have done is say he thought 'better judgement' could have been used, almost any word other than STUPID to use about a police officer who arrived at the call of a crime in progress would have been better.

Either answer isn't very comforting.

JD:

Here's a tip: If you're called to a home responding to a report of a break-in, and the guy who answers the door is, like 60 years old, he's probably not the guy you're looking for. That's probably in the Detective Handbook. On the first page.

Of course, the Racist Handbook says that all blacks are criminals, no matter the age, gender or circumstance. So in that case, arrest away.

Speaking as a lawyer, here's a helpful tip:

If you scream and cuss at a cop, and keep it up, you'll be wearing bracelets. Black, white, brown or green: same result.

There is not one of Gates' defenders who can come up with a plausible argument, merely the naked *assumption*- with no facts to go on- that the officer was a 'racist.'

Datum: that this happens to be the same cop who administered mouth-to-mouth to (black) Celtics star Reggie Lewis in an effort to save his life.

Datum: that Gates, on the other hand, is a professional race-baiter.

jesme - you don't know wtf you're talking about. The police responded to a break in call, Gates is not the owner of the home, according to the police report and eyewitness accounts Gates was antagonistic the whole time. Simple non-racebaiting headline is 'Local police arrest Harvard asshole'.

If Obama was white and would have made that comment about the police, white America would have applauded him. Unfortuntelay for him he is black in the eyes of America and therefore rascist when he says something that involves a white man. How convenient for white America to forget that Obama was raised by his white mother and had a strong connection to his white grandmother. America wake up, Obama just opened your eyes you ignorant folk. You want Gates not to see the incident as rascist and then you turn around and call Obama rascist?? I spit on you.

JD -
I think you should fill out a witness statement for the Cambridge police - as there's obviously much you know about the incident in question.
Maybe someday you can share with students the horrible experience of being a white man in America...just knowing that people hate you on site.
Know that this struggle will make you a better man. (Or is that a bitter man?)

I don't see how a reasonable person can see the incident as racist.

A 911 call about a b&e IN PROGRESS was reported to police that included descriptions of two black males attempting to break open the front door.

When the officer arrived, there was one black male inside the house.

He asked the black male inside the house to step outside, which is standard procedure.

Gates refused, he not only refused to come outside but launched into a racial tirade.

Gates also refused to show his ID initially.

The cop was on his way, already leaving the house after confirming that Gates was not a burglar, when Gates followed him outside and continued his racist harangue.

At that point, it is within the officer's discretion to arrest him for disorderly conduct since he refused to shut up or calm down.

I believe the officer's report more than Gates becuase it is backed up by a second officer's report as well as two witnesses who have spoken to Boston media and they confirm that Gates was aggitated and yelling.

The racist in this exchange is Henry Louis Gates, no surprise there.

But at the end of the day, even if this had never happened, y'all seriously wanna make a case that black men aren't treated differently by law enforcement? If you wanna make some racist case that they deserve to be, then at least you're being being honest. But to ignore the reality of this issue is just beyond stupid. I won't bother giving examples, there's too many.

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Of course nobody said this, and this isn't the topic. What to take a guess as to why you, as an Obama voter, want to change the subject?

Here's a tip: If you're called to a home responding to a report of a break-in, and the guy who answers the door is, like 60 years old, he's probably not the guy you're looking for. That's probably in the Detective Handbook. On the first page.

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Thank you for proving your ignorance and the the modern left can no longer be parodied.

Crime statistics are not racist, no matter how much liberals want them to be.

According to teammates and the coach himself, Barack Obama falsely accuses his high school basketball of racism and bigotry in his memoir and in interviews.

Obama's memoir has more than one obviously made up "racial incidence" stories. Some others may be true, who knows when you are dealing with a man like Obama, well known on a daily basis to make up "facts" and otherwise generate untrue BS to serve his interests.

If you've read about Obama's high school period, Obama has a huge chip on his shoulder because of his failed ambition to become an professional basketball player -- Obama spent every day all day working to "make the NBA", but he just wasn't that good. Instead of blaming himself, Obama blamed racism. Obama seems to have interpreted the world on a deeply racial basis ever since.

The truth is out there.

Here's an interesting website - a very high percentage of the murders in New York City are committed by minorities against their own. He also has the New York Times murder map up and if you know the neighborhoods you will see that the murders are mostly committed in minority areas. Good to know if you are a stranger to New York.

http://tacomaconfidential.typepad.com/the_murder_book_2008/

You guyS can try to put obama as a racist. But the truth of the matter is. This has been going on for Hundreds of years. And it never stopped. You CAN POINT THE finger all you want. At whose to blame. All you making the stupid remarks about go back here. You make yourself look like a jackazz. Bush messed this country up. Not a dam one of you said a bad thing about that. IF you sit here and talk about obama and what he say. Bush said a whole lot of things that werent right. And has a lot of blood on his hands.

You can talk chat. Until your teeth fall out. He's putting back this peice of so call america that Bush. Messed up.
Politic and Racist people go hand to hand. Gossips makes news for people like you guys. Who are writing stupid comments. Yes. He may have comment wrong in the white america eyes. He didnt whole back about what felt in that situation. Now must of the white folks are upset. Poor people. They hate the fact that there is a black president in the white. House. You really want to talk about something. How about obama changing and making the white house totally black that would drive all the white people mad. But we know that that's not going to happen. I'm sick of writing to you idiots. Get a LIFE

Everyone in New York already knows this, it is the unspoken truth that lives in all the big blue cities of the Northeast and elsewhere.

"Obama was absolutely right. This was stupid on the part of the Cambridge police. The smart thing to do would have been to apologize, leave discreetly, and hope that was the end of it. Instead, they let the situation get out of control and now have a firestorm on their hands because of it."

If you believe the report, Gates refused to provide identification to prove he lived in the house and started shouting about racism, which apparently spilled out of the house and drew a crowd.

So is the new standard of policing that if a possible intruder refuses to provide an ID he should be apologized to? Its pretty clear that Gates INSTANTLY assumed and started yelling about racism, refusing to even hear the explanation from the police as to why they were there. This is exactly the kind of race baiting we are supposed to be over.

I know one thing... there's a swanky, upscale house in Cambridge, MA, that can be easily broken into and now it is unlikely the local cops will respond in a timely fashion, if at all.

I don't get what the cop was supposed to apologize for? Someone called 911 and reported a break-in? What is he supposed to do when he gets there and finds someone who fits the description inside the house?

That is what makes all this "he came into the house w/out permission" so ridiculous. He was investigating a break-in, the door was broken, WTF?

Who knows what happened. This is Gate's statement via his attorney:

Professor Gates immediately called the Harvard Real Estate office to report the damage to his door and requested that it be repaired immediately. As he was talking to the Harvard Real Estate office on his portable phone in his house, he observed a uniformed officer on his front porch. When Professor Gates opened the door, the officer immediately asked him to step outside. Professor Gates remained inside his home and asked the officer why he was there. The officer indicated that he was responding to a 911 call about a breaking and entering in progress at this address. Professor Gates informed the officer that he lived there and was a faculty member at Harvard University. The officer then asked Professor Gates whether he could prove that he lived there and taught at Harvard. Professor Gates said that he could, and turned to walk into his kitchen, where he had left his wallet. The officer followed him. Professor Gates handed both his Harvard University identification and his valid Massachusetts driver’s license to the officer. Both include Professor Gates’ photograph, and the license includes his address.

Professor Gates then asked the police officer if he would give him his name and his badge number. He made this request several times. The officer did not produce any identification nor did he respond to Professor Gates’ request for this information. After an additional request by Professor Gates for the officer’s name and badge number, the officer then turned and left the kitchen of Professor Gates’ home without ever acknowledging who he was or if there were charges against Professor Gates. As Professor Gates followed the officer to his own front door, he was astonished to see several police officers gathered on his front porch. Professor Gates asked the officer’s colleagues for his name and badge number. As Professor Gates stepped onto his front porch, the officer who had been inside and who had examined his identification, said to him, “Thank you for accommodating my earlier request,” and then placed Professor Gates under arrest. He was handcuffed on his own front porch.

Ace:

You got me... I'm completely ignorant.

BTW, so is the FBI.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/addpubs.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/ucr/adducr/age_race_specific.pdf

But don't let facts get in the way of... whatever it is you do here.

The Ace -
Um...yes, it is the topic...unless you think folks here are just speaking about this incident in a bubble. Have a read through the comments.
But maybe on another level you're right - and what it's really about (again and perhaps forver) is 'who hates Obama the most'...it seems the 'birthers' are starting to weigh in.

I wonder why Gates wanted the policeman's ID.

One of Gate's neighbors is on record having heard Gates say "You believe the white woman and not the black man"

Come on, that statement is not credible. Gates is a racist and a liar.

Really? You weren't there, don't personally know the people, so you have no way to know who's telling the truth.

I want to thank obama for ensuring that no minority will ever be elected to the presidency again ... or should I say the hizzy ... I predicted this but he did do it sooner than I thought

Oh my can we get over this "RACIST THING". if it had not been the owner breaking in then the police would have been accused of not helping because it was a black man house
OR
is this someway to take the heat off him for this stupid costly so called "Health Care Reform" . I have heard nothing (I am a Democrat for over 60 years) that says we the working tax payer will not pay for the health care of lazy wefare recipients and ILLEGAL' and those who will not buy insurance even if they have the money

I call the medicine hot line and was told that even tho I have to work at age 82 to pay for health and prescription insurance ,they will not help me unless I am homeless, unemployed or in this country ILLEGALLY

I know that there is the cop's report, which he, not his lawyer wrote, and which was put together shortly after the scene.

I know there is a second police report, written by a hispanic officer, which corroborates the first report.

I know that two of Gates' neighbors who witnessed the altercation support the fact that Gates was yelling and yelling about the cop being racist.

I know that there was at least one black officer on the scene and several other police officers who can either support or not that Gates was yelling and making a scene.

I believe that Gates version where out of nowhere the officer thanks him and then cuffs him is patently ridiculous and never happened.

So, as far as I can tell, there is already substantial evidence that supports the police officer's version of the story and only Gates word that supports his version.

I also believe that if he could supply any witnesses that supported his version, he would have done so in one of his numerous media interviews over the last few days.

Obama went to Wright's place for the politics and the race baiting, not to find his version of god.
Black Liberation Theology is Marxism using Race as Identity politics, with God added to it to make it palatable to the target group.

Obama's stances on Health cre were summed up by Bobby Jindal. He say's he like a lot of what he hears Obama say on healthcare and medicine. . . but nothing Obama says he is for seems to be in the bill he is pushing

Good to see a president that is not afraid to speak his mind, we need more of it and less of the hairy chested law enforcement stupidity that is starting to become rampant throughout all the states. The guy was breaking in to his own house, he was not doing anything wrong, that police officer needs a good kick in the nuts for acting the way he did, he should be removed from his position as an example of what will happen if this type of brutality continues.

A white guy...

I have had enough with black folks crying racist every change they get. Obama is President. If racism existed, how the hell did he get elected? And how the hell did Gates get to become a prominent professor at Harvard? Yep, racism was there alright. But it was the kind of racism that benefited them (affirmative action et al) so they did not make a peep. Obama was doing not too well in school yet he got into Harvard. He had no experience, either in law--his studied field--or in politic or business yet he got elected. He ought to curl his tongue seven times before uttering the word racist. And although the media has pumped him and his wife up with praise of "smartest, most intellectual, brilliant", he has shown that he isn't too bright without a speech writer and a pair of telepromters so he ought to quit the word "stupid" as well.

As for Gates, he broke into a home, albeit his own. Where was his intellectual, bright, Harvard trained mind? Did it not occur to him that if the door of his own home was bolted, which wasn't the way he left it when leaving for his trip, there might be problem--landlord locking it for unpaid rent perhaps or there's an intruder in the house, etc? No, nothing occurred to him. He simply broke in. Well, I am certain the concerned citizen would call the police if he were white, and the police would still treat the white him similarly. Yes, there's always a prejudice, stereo-typing, profiling. It happens in countries where there is only one race. If one looks or acts like a thug, one is perceived as such. Look, it even happens in his ancestor's home land Africa. So Gates ought to shut the hell up.

Gates wasn't arrested for breaking into his own house. He was arrested for disorderly conduct for following the officer outside the house and continuing to scream at him after having been warned to calm down.

That kind of arrest is always within the officer's discretion. We can debate whether he should or should not have arrested Gates, but he was pretty clearly within his right to do so.

Common sense should dictate that when a police officer arrives on the scene where a crime has been reported in progress, you are polite and helpful, no matter what your age, sex or race.

About time we got a prez that gives out his own opinion, all the rest have been stooges. Need a bloody lot more of it.

"Really? You weren't there, don't personally know the people, so you have no way to know who's telling the truth."

That's odd. Obama wasn't there and doesn't know the facts, as even he admitted, but he stated directly that the police were wrong and that Gates was right.

Planning to blast him as well, Nishner?

Presidents do not usually get involved in any way with local misdemeanor arrests or any other local non issue. What's next, is he going to give us his opinion on the spring collections? Harry Potter?

The president isn't supposed to blather on about his own opinion, he's supposed to be diplomatic and lead the country and focus on national and international issues.

Um...yes, it is the topic...unless you think folks here are just speaking about this incident in a bubble. Have a read through the comments.


Um, no, it is not the topic of the post.

Don't worry, I understand you didn't learn reading comprehension in your African studies courses.

Yeah, assuming Obama knows no more than what people on this board know, he probably shouldn't have said anything either. Cause, unless some people on this board have psychic abilities, the only people that actually know what happened are Gates and the officer that were in the house together.

He was asked a question - it's a national story.

But don't let facts get in the way of... whatever it is you do here.

Huh?

Um, so which "fact" did you post indicating that anyone of a this clown Gates' age doesn't commit crimes?

Oh, none.

Nevermind.

Police are generally not very bright. Once Mr. Gates produced ID, they should have left quietly and ignored whatever venom was being directed at them by a man who obviously posed no physical threat to them. Instead, they arrested him. The arrest had nothing to do with the law, the charges have already been dropped. The cop decided to arrest him because he thought it would teach him a lesson. He should respect the police. The problem is, black men in this country have a history of being targeted, harrassed and otherwise treated like criminals when they come in contact with law enforcement. Ask any middle aged black man you know if either they or someone close to them has had a similar experience to that of Mr. Gates. The answer will surprise you. The cop is a public employee who's job is not to "teach lessons" but rather to serve and protect the public. Gates's rant may have offended the cop but offending a cop is not a crime. Being arrested in the middle of the day on your own front porch is a humilating and degrading experience. That was why he was arrested, to humiliate and degrade him. To all of you who think the cop was in the right here, you should be petitioning the DA to reinstate the charges against him and proceed to trial. Let's see the cop and his union defend the charges they arrested him for. The charges were dropped because they could not be defended. Calling a cop a racist is not a criminal offense. Eventually, the city of Cambridge and the police officer will pay Mr. Gates a considerable sum of money. They cannot defend their actions legally. There was no basis for the arrest. That money will be paid from the tax revenues. This cop just cost the citizens of Cambridge a few million dollars all because he wanted to "teach a lesson". The lesson he should learn is stupidity is cause for termination. They should fire this terminally thick-headed but thin-skinned moron before he causes more damage.

The charges were dropped because they could not be defended.

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Hilarious.

You leftists are an embarrassment to the Republic...

Once Mr. Gates produced ID, they should have left quietly and ignored whatever venom was being directed at them by a man who obviously posed no physical threat to them

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Please, keep going. Seriously, watching you incoherent boobs prattle on is quite illuminating.

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"The cop decided to arrest him because he thought it would teach him a lesson"

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You, just like the clown President you voted for, have no idea whether or not this is true. You're simply projecting your rage on to the police.

Just like most leftists, the views you assign to those which you disagree with politically are really your own.

John Henry Eden writes:

"Gates was treated no differently than other racists who scream at police officers during investigations. "

Bull. But cops can't arrest someone for being a racist or for screaming at them. There is no law that protects a cop from boorish or uncivil behavior on the part of the people they serve. Cops that spend their time arresting people for the offense of pissing them off shouldn't be cops for very long. It just costs the department money. If you were any dumber, you could be a cop yourself.

The police union is alleging that charges were dropped due to Gates being a personal friend of the mayor and the governor and the presidentm as it is highly unusual to have charges dropped before arraignment. So, I'd say chances of Gates getting any money from the city are slim to none.

The police officer himself will never pay a dime regardless because he has almost unqualified immunity for anything he does while on the job, police cannot even be sued for lying on the witness stand.

It is true that "nobody knows" what really happened but that is the case in almost every arrest and trial there is..that is why the standard is 'reasonable doubt' and not 'I was there and saw it all and know 100% for certain what happened"

Indeed, there were several witnesses to at least what took place on the porch, and at least two of them back up the officer's report...

anan writes:

"The police union is alleging that charges were dropped due to Gates being a personal friend of the mayor and the governor and the presidentm as it is highly unusual to have charges dropped before arraignment. So, I'd say chances of Gates getting any money from the city are slim to none."

So the police union and all you morons should fight to have the charges reinstated. I'd love to see this go to trial. Let's see how they defend arresting a guy who proved he was in his own home and who never threatened or otherwise posed a risk to officers or the public. Come on all you legal geniuses, show me a legal basis for arresting someone when no threats or public safety issue is present.

the ace writes:

"Hilarious.

You leftists are an embarrassment to the Republic..."

And you sir aren't smart enough to make a coherent argument. If you have something to say, please say it. If you haven't noticed, we so called "leftists" outnumber you wingnuts nearly everywhere in the country save the south. Maybe you should move back to the south and start a seccession movement. It worked out so well for your kin last time.

You morons want a police state then keep it coming...you WILL regret your dumb ass attitude in the end.

Let's see how they defend arresting a guy who proved he was in his own home and who never threatened or otherwise posed a risk to officers or the public.


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THEY DIDN'T ARREST HIM FOR BEING IN HIS OWN HOME.

What about that can't you grasp?

You are arguing against strawmen for a reason.

Here is why he was arrested:

As I descended the stairs to the sidewalk, Gates continued to yell at me, accusing me of racial bias and continued to tell me that I had not heard the last of him. Due to the tumultuous manner Gates had exhibited in his residence as well as his continued tumultuous behavior outside the residence, in view of the public, I warned Gates that he was becoming disorderly. Gates ignored my warning and continued to yell, which drew the attention of both the police officers and citizens, who appeared surprised and alarmed by Gates’s outburst. For a second time I warned Gates to calm down while I withdrew my department issued handcuffs from their carrying case. Gates again ignored my warning and continued to yell at me. It was at this time that I informed Gates that he was under arrest.

Come on all you legal geniuses, show me a legal basis for arresting someone when no threats or public safety issue is present.

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Hysterical.

Please, keep opining. Watching your stupidity in action is fantastic.

If you haven't noticed, we so called "leftists" outnumber you wingnuts nearly everywhere in the country save the south


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Um, yeah, not so much. Of course conservatives self ID at 2 times the rate as "liberals" but then again, you clowns always feel the need to be reassurred becasue of your intellectual insecurities.

"Let's see how they defend arresting a guy who proved he was in his own home and who never threatened or otherwise posed a risk to officers or the public."

Actually, nynick, you show your bigotry and hatred of police officers in that remark, given that you absolutely state that Gates NEVER threatened or otherwise posed a risk.

You weren't there. You don't know what went on. You are simply responding in a racist, bigoted, and prejudiced manner.

But this is typical for Gates and the rest of the Obama Party, given their attitudes.

"Kinney, a black woman, testified that the mayor criticized her for working with White, who is white.

"'You should be ashamed of yourself,'" she quoted Kilpatrick as saying. "'Why are you a part of this?'"

White testified Kilpatrick said, "'You shouldn't even be riding in a car with a guy named White.'""

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25851901/

Remember, that's Kwame Kilpatrick, endorsed and supported by both Barack Obama and the Congressional Black Caucus, chaired by his mother.

Aren't you proud of what you support, nynick? Does it give you and your racist friend Gates a sense of power to shame black women for daring to do their jobs and investigate crimes by blacks? Is that racist?

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