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Does Michael Steele + Bilingual Ballots = New Republican Majority?

So says this writer who is ecstatic about the "New Republican Party" that he says Steele is creating.

http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/south_king/fwm/opinion/51530632.html

I on the other hand doubt Republicans can out pander the Democrats on the issue of "Identity Politics"(Racial Politics). As long as Republicans choose to fight the Democrats on battlefields of the Democrat's own choosing they will lose. It's simple Sun Tzu.

The Republican party continues to go further and further away from the direction we need it to go for a vehicle of positive change. I feel that the only option left to us is a new party because even if the Republicans win next time I don't see them as significantly enough different from what we have now.

Could Palin win as a Republican? I believe she could. But to do so she will first have to go through Michael Steele. He will continue to throw roadblocks in her way as long as he remains chair of the RNC. In fact unless Michael Steele is first defeated, I don't think Palin could indeed win the party nomination.

Of course it's a great blog. With a name like Adrienne, you can't go wrong!

I hope she knows what she is getting into...

there is a segment within the democratic party which is absolutely insane, who will stop at nothing to destroy her for daring to support someone(and something) she believes in. I give her a ton of credit in her dedication to palin.

It was through Adrienne, posting on Team Sarah, that I heard about Sarah Palin being in Auburn, NY last month. We went to Auburn and I met Adrienne. I also spoke with a few locals who were angry that the press did nothing to promote Sarah Palin's visit. And yet 20,000 people showed up! It was an unforgettable day.

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sounds like Riehl is seeing little starbursts bouncing around his room. Standing up straight are you Dan?

guess Dan was seeing little starbursts when reading Adrienne. Did you "stand up straight" Dan?

Kitty

I was going to mention that I had first come across Adrienne's delightful blog when she posted about that visit in Auburn; I am so happy for all who were able to share a fantastic day.


Adrienne is an inspiration, what a fine spirit and depth of conviction she holds.

I had not been following Team Sarah but I think I will now because I missed a great opportunity to go to Auburn and meet great Americans.

"does anyone else notice that wingnuts never seem to want engage in the actual arguments? they just make rather infantile attacks on the person with whom they disagree... Interesting phenomena."

---Rent-A-Cop, yesterday.

"sounds like Riehl is seeing little starbursts bouncing around his room. Standing up straight are you Dan?"

---The same pussy-boy, 8:17 this morning

"guess Dan was seeing little starbursts when reading Adrienne. Did you "stand up straight" Dan?"

---Same little chickenshit, six minutes later.

Dan, here's another vote for dumping Slimeball's skanky ass in the Bit Bucket O' Access™.

"As I added in a previous post, she strikes me as the salt of the earth kind of person we need more of to take this country back from government's hands."

Translation: she'll be the perfect trojan horse to fool unsuspecting rubes into supporting policies that exclusively favor the wealthy and powerful special interests who finance the conservative political machine. Remember, just like Sarah Palin, if she wasn't wittingly or unwittingly useful to the interests of big business, you would never have heard of her -- at least not in this forum.

gosh bob, even if she were a "trojan horse", should I take it that the democratic party is devoid of their own?
heal your own party.

i'm not a big palin supporter, but I give her a "10" on character and personal history.

"And yet 20,000 people showed up! It was an unforgettable day"

my nieces, 12 and 16, went to see her in NC, during the campaign. both have started running avidly since. they were in good shape before, but are in even better shape now.

I tease them a bit about their "hero", but I am so glad for what palin has done for them. They see her as an atheletic mother, and admire her character as well.

just wondering if the libs have any female they could offer, even outside of politics, who should be considered a role model.

"gosh bob, even if she were a "trojan horse", should I take it that the democratic party is devoid of their own?
heal your own party."

The Republicans have a particular need to find seemingly "salt of the earth" types to present as their public face. The Republicans are well aware that their pro-industry, pro-wealthy-aristocrat agenda needs figureheads that are more likely to be sympathetic to middle-class, rank-and-file voters. So we get people like Sarah Palin or "Joe the Plumber" being promoted, or the truly aristocratic George W. Bush made over to be a "regular guy whom you'd like to have a beer with," while the actual policies are set by industry lobbyists and Washington fat-cats.

Meanwhile, people like the Obamas or Bill Clinton are mocked as out-of-touch elitists even though they had truly humble beginnings. Needing to cloak their aristocrat-friendly policies in a friendly and seemingly humble face is the whole reason for the conservatives' constant culture war agitation. They need to distract the people who they themselves see as rubes so they won't realize who's more on their side. That gives rise to the peculiar phenomenon of seeing regular people out in the streets at tea parties and so forth, protesting for the right of big business to live without the burden of government regulation, so they can screw regular people over with impunity.

As far as role models go, mark, I'd say that if your side antes-up with the Palins, then our side can counter with the Obamas. Both are fit, attractive couples of about the same age range, all with relatively humble beginnings. The only difference, I guess, is that one couple will most likely never set foot in the White House. (Sorry, that last bit was a cheap-shot, but I couldn't help myself.)

"Obamas or Bill Clinton are mocked as out-of-touch elitists"

the average citizen goes to an ivy league school?

I commend bill clinton for his rhodes scholarship, but given that his patron was fulbright, I'm willing to bet he had a lot of consideration on his reccomendation letters.

obama also benefitted from his association and patronage with bill ayers.

since you are an avid palintologists, could you tell me who she had looking out for her, other than her parents and family?

"Both are fit"
I saw the throw in the all star game. michelle also suffers from too much lobster in the butt. really don't imagine that a pic of her in jogging shorts would be that flattering. attractive, charismatic...maybe.

fit? please.

as far as careers go, michelle was "given" work at a hospital run by tony rezko.
their house? rezko.
their fundraising? rezko.

if you have a legit role model, I'll consider.

two people who were groomed by money?

"two people who were groomed by money?"

let me clarify that one...should have said-

two people groomed by a convicted criminal.

Mark, it's sadly typical of right wingers -- and says more about their own character than anyone else's -- that they so stubbornly refuse to give any credit where credit is due. Anybody ought to know that schools like Harvard and Oxford give recognition to top-level students, and if those students aren't from wealthy families, they make sure they get scholarships to pay for educations that would otherwise be beyond their means. Clinton and the Obamas came from humble beginnings and only got admitted to places like Harvard and Oxford because they worked hard and were very, very smart. You may not like them or support their policies, but it's petty to pretend that they were born with silver spoons in their mouths (in contrast to George W. Bush). Whatever they achieved in their lives, they earned though hard work and brains.

And yes, Palin had plenty of political patrons who helped her along the way, several of whom were rewarded when she stabbed them in the back after they were of no further use to her:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/23/palin/

(just click through the ad to read the article)

bob,

I won't bother with an essay on the subject of the difference between Palin's brushes with corruption versus the obamas'. if you took off you blue colored glasses, even you would have a hard time supporting one over the others.

i can't speak for michelle, but obama's mouth has done little to convince me of his "brilliance".
57 states, "stupidly", not knowing what senate committees he serves on...it reeks of affirmative action.

this is one of the great tragedies of the libs pushing the messiah's credentials. There are brilliant african americans, but in propping up those who were given a affirmative action handout, you destroy the ones who have actual intellect. The most brilliant mathematics student I have ever known, was african-american. I have met many others who have demonstrated some form of intellectual talent, that served to rid my of my youthful perceptions of intelligence and race. ( a common thread did seem to occur...invariably the minority students that dispelled any consideration for intelligence and race, were products of a parent (or parents) who were educators.)

i find it insulting that you carry on this pretense of intellect for obama, while simultaneously attacking palin's intelligence. you aren't helping a race, you are helping yourself and your party, at the expense of the true quality to be found in african americans.

"this is one of the great tragedies of the libs pushing the messiah's credentials."

Mark, the most common trait I see among conservative posters here is a lack of good faith. You obviously didn't read even part of the article I posted to even though it provides a specific answer to the question that YOU posed:

"since you are an avid palintologists, could you tell me who she had looking out for her, other than her parents and family?"

Most of the extremist conservatives who post at sites like this aren't interested in the truth, or even in a fair debate. They just want to wallow in the society of other wing nuts and posture for each other about how much they hate Obama, or Clinton, or whomever the object of their ire happens to be at any given time. It's all petty and personality-based, because wing nuts know little about policy and care even less. Conservative politics is all about manipulating the feelings of pathetic rubes to help big shots make money and further entrench their political power.

Palin was supposed to have been eye candy to serve the interests of the elites, but the Republican leadership got more than they bargained for. Even as they tried to drop her like a bad habit when her political and personal liabilities became too burdensome, Palin has exerted her own loose-cannon personality and, I think, come back to haunt them. The Republican big-shots are embarrassed by her small-town antics, but their "salt of the earth" game requires that they handle her with kid gloves, so as not to offend the rubes. They may not ALL diss her publicly, but they'll never let her near a presidential ticket again, I promise. The fact that so many rank-and-file Republican rubes still haven't figured this out shows how truly clueless and pathetic they really are.

"Most of the extremist conservatives who post at sites like this aren't interested in the truth, or even in a fair debate."

Uh, no, not with those who go out of their way to call us "extremist" or "wing nuts" or "rank-and-file Republican rubes". Little tough to get "truth" or "a fair debate" outta someone like that, y'know?

"Mark, the most common trait I see among conservative posters here is a lack of good faith. You obviously didn't read even part of the article I posted to even though it provides a specific answer to the question that YOU posed:"

And, given that the link came from someone who is calling, and has called, us the aforementioned perjoratives, do you honestly think we're going to ascribe _any_ credibility to your link? Especially from a magazine whose contributors delight in labelling us with much the same, and have very little interest in fairness themselves?

Please.

"Uh, no, not with those who go out of their way to call us "extremist" or "wing nuts" or "rank-and-file Republican rubes". Little tough to get "truth" or "a fair debate" outta someone like that, y'know?"

Again, DV, that in itself is a bad-faith argument. Anyone who's spent more than 5 minutes perusing this site knows that the majority of conservative commenters are more than "liberal" with their own invective. Why, in fact, you yourself, in this very post, said something far more insulting about a fellow poster, Slide:

"Same little chickenshit, six minutes later. Dan, here's another vote for dumping Slimeball's skanky ass in the Bit Bucket O' Access™."

That's "chickenshit," and "Skanky ass," DV. And yet now you so primly cop the attitude that your delicate sensibilities have been too ruffled because I referred to some of you as wing nuts. Thanks for providing such a perfect illustration of the bad faith and hypocrisy that I was only just talking about. You are FREAKING hilarious. Thanks for making my day.

"That's "chickenshit," and "Skanky ass," DV. And yet now you so primly cop the attitude that your delicate sensibilities have been too ruffled because I referred to some of you as wing nuts. Thanks for providing such a perfect illustration of the bad faith and hypocrisy that I was only just talking about. You are FREAKING hilarious. Thanks for making my day."

Okay, asshole, you asked for it.

Frankly, Roberta, you can go fuck yourself. The fact is that you bastards are fucking hypocrites, coming in here and spewing your bullshit, then whining when it gets thrown back at you.

I saw a thread where you were bitching the other day about folks (like me) who want your asses kicked off of here.

The fact is, dumb shit, you have exactly the same right to be here as I have: Effin' _none_. You & I are graciously allowed to post comments here at the behest of one Dan Riehl, who owns the site. He can dump your comments, dump mine, or not allow comments at all - and what the fuck do you think you're gonna do about it?

Not. A. Damned. Thing.

I correctly exposed Slimeball yesterday for the poseur hypocrite he is. Sorry that sticks in your craw, moronette, but that ain't my problem.

So you can shut your pussified piehole, dumbshit, because you ain't got _no_ credibility here. And certainly not with the bullshit Salon links you post, dumbass.

"Frankly, Roberta, you can go f*** yourself. The fact is that you bastards are f***ing hypocrites, coming in here and spewing your bull***t, then whining when it gets thrown back at you."

The sound of a wing nut after he's been pwned. Like I said, DV, thanks for making my day. Shall we call your mommy to bring in the Windex and a paper towel to clean the saliva off of your monitor now? LOL.

"The sound of a wing nut after he's been pwned."

The sound of a delusional little fuck after he wishfully thinks he's pwned someone.

Dan, here's another vote to kick little Roberta off the board.

(C'mon, Roberta, dance! Start your whining again about us wanting to deny you your little soapbox! Dance, moron!)

"Frankly, Roberta, you can go f*** yourself."

Oh, and what was that again about "delicate sensibilities", dumbshit? (Or are you gonna * that out, too, eh chump?)

Hey Darth, you're just making an obscenity-spewing fool out of yourself now. Maybe you should have a beer and watch some TV or something. Seriously.

"Hey Darth, you're just making an obscenity-spewing fool out of yourself now. Maybe you should have a beer and watch some TV or something. Seriously."

Awwww, whassa matter, Roberta? Did'ums get his widdle "delicate sensibilities" offended?

Awwwwwwwwwwwww.

'Miss Pot, there's a Mr. Kettle on line 2. Something about being black...'

I haven't perused this thread for a while. Did I miss anything?

Well, I missed Bob's excellent post on the bad faith of wingnuts on here. Bob you were right on with that post and it was brilliantly stated.

What else did I miss? Oh yeah, DV demonstrating to everyone once again what a complete freaking asshole he is. Wow, is the guy thin skinned and unhinged or what? Take some anger management classes wide stance. And as soon as he is countered by someone on what he said, he starts cursing and spewing threats like a elementary school child.

He has also repeatedly asked Dan to kick me off here. What does that tell you? Dan doesn't have to kick me off. All he would ever have to say is "Slide I'd prefer that you don't post on my blog" and you would never hear from me again. I actually wrote to Dan and asked him if he would rather I not post and he gave me the green light. So stop whining Wide Stance, I'm here to stay. Get used to it.

"What else did I miss? Oh yeah, DV demonstrating to everyone once again what a complete freaking asshole he is."

Oh, look - it's the lying little coward Rent-A-Cop, come to join in the circle-jerk with Roberta and whine once again that we take exception to his shitting on Dan's rug.

"Take some anger management classes wide stance."

Is this the same _bastion of serenity_ that said:

"Are you really that much of an asshole? tough tough guy. Hey wide stance... come to NY and we'll meet in the middle of fucking Times Square if you want. Lets go tough guy. Come on.... Times Square any time. If you don't come, then you are the big wide stance pussy that I know you are. Come on Darth.. Darth? what a fucking name, come on you Dungeons and Dragons playing, cheeto eating, basement dwelling, little momma's boy? Come on. Times Square. Lets do it. Give me a date and time and I'll be there."

Why, I do believe it is.

Hypocrisy much, Rent-A-Cop?

"He has also repeatedly asked Dan to kick me off here. What does that tell you?"

Tells at least one person here that I agree with 'em. They know you're an assclown, too.

Huh. This is the first time I've heard the "Sarah Palin is a trojan-horse" argument. Of course it has all the left could want in a meme: she still reamains a stupid beauty queen, but much more than that RICH WHITE PEOPLE are behind her! Impressive in delusional idiocy, it is.

"Huh. This is the first time I've heard the "Sarah Palin is a trojan-horse" argument."

It's not just Palin. It's Standard Operating Procedure for Republicans to pose as "salt of the earth" types (even if they're born of the uber-aristocratic Bush family) so they can appeal to the simpletons they will ultimately screw over. Even if they're wealthy movie stars like Reagan or Schwarzenegger, they're inevitably portrayed as anti-elitist and down-to-earth. With Reagan it was his folksy manner; with Schwarzenegger, it's the cigar-chomping, Hummer-driving machismo. They like to put the image of a charismatic personality in the place of more mundane qualities like leadership, moral courage, or knowing what the hell you're doing. It works perfectly for Republicans, because their ACTUAL policies tend to go against the interests of regular middle-class people, so they get to focus instead on personalities and petty culture-war themes.

Now don't get me wrong. By "simpletons" or "rubes," I don't mean just regular, middle-class people. I come from pretty regular stock myself, and can't claim any elite status in the world for sure. But there is something really pathetic about people who are too clueless to know when they're being patronized, manipulated and screwed-over by slick hucksters. Anybody who would allow themselves to be taken in by the likes of an Eric Kantor or a Mitch McConnell is definitely a rube.

"But there is something really pathetic about people who are too clueless to know when they're being patronized, manipulated and screwed-over by slick hucksters."

Which is why few people here believe anything a moron like you has to say.

"Are you really that much of an asshole? tough tough guy. Hey wide stance... come to NY and we'll meet in the middle of fucking Times Square if you want."

I can find a venue in ny, and possbile nj, which would suffice. i'll be up there in the fall.

I do want to make sure that you sign a release, have insurance, and have a a chance to back out, before you got your ass kicked. I figure it would probably have to be done at a boxing ring, and to make it legal we would have to wear gloves. Not consistent with my training, as I would want to put you in a chokehold within 10 seconds, and you would 'nod' off, without any real pain, in another 10 seconds, but outside of ufc, there really isn't a legal venue for me to put you at risk.

I'm over 40, so I might get a little winded punching you in the face, with gloves, but the joy of seeing you panic as you realize what you got yourself into would be worth the sweat.

strong advice?
make sure you have a good neck muscles. If you aren't in good shape, it will snap when I hit you, even with gloves and with you wearing head gear. You should wear a mouthguard, but it probably wouldn't save you from a broken jaw. i have broken three in my 'career'. theirs, not mine.

best bet?
you back out before we get in the ring.

fwiw, I'm 220, with a 16% body fat, and barely six feet. I'm not VERY strong, but this is a relative issue. speed is the thing.

If you want, I'll find a venue in the ny area, but you will probably have some out of pocket expenses, cost of joining the gym. If you are intrigued, I see what I can set up, and to be very honest, you have a chance. I've lost at least four fights, so your task isn't impossible.

"Which is why few people here believe anything a moron like you has to say."

OK, fine, DV. You go ahead with your insults. I really can't be bothered to respond right now.

I think Slide alluded to it above (when he mentioned contacting Dan to check if it was OK if he continued to post here), and I will certainly state for my part, that I don't post here just to get in fights and insult people. Sure, I can dish it out when provoked -- and Slide certainly can more than handle his end of a battle of wits -- but I'm here more to challenge ideas than to insult people. If it gets a bit rumble-tumble sometimes, then I guess that's the price you sometimes pay for a frank discussion. But I make what I think is a good-faith effort to be honest and fact-based as much as possible, and usually respond respectfully if I'm approached in the same spirit.

I'm not trying to claim to be better than anyone, DV, but this interaction with you (and yours with Slide) has crossed the line. I wish you'd make more of an effort to rein-in the insults and the obscenities and try a little harder to at least treat people with respect. I'd like to think that even if those of us who post here don't agree, and even if our discussions get rancorous from time-to-time, that maybe we've at least developed a little mutual respect in the process. If all I wanted to do is be a troll, then maybe I'd take you up on the pissing matches, but that's not why I'm here.

"I wish you'd make more of an effort to rein-in the insults and the obscenities and try a little harder to at least treat people with respect. I'd like to think that even if those of us who post here don't agree, and even if our discussions get rancorous from time-to-time, that maybe we've at least developed a little mutual respect in the process."

I'll believe any of that when I can read a few comments in a row from you _sans_ the terms "rube", "wingnut", "extremist", etc. If it's _ideas_ you want to exchange & challenge - this "good-faith" effort" you espouse - then drop the perjoratives. You might be surprised.

"I think Slide alluded to it above (when he mentioned contacting Dan to check if it was OK if he continued to post here)"

It might or might not interest you to know that Dan & I have, just this evening, had a similar chat (initiated by me). Without going into detail. I'll simply say that it was _very_ enlightening, and leave it at that.

"we'll meet in the middle of fucking Times Square"

figures you would pick that place. i hear it's great for homosexual hookups, and I'll bet you were big on busting the twinks, when you 'were a cop'.

Hey Darth, I'm not quite as pollyanna-ish as I might sometimes come across. It's not so much specific words or terms that I'm against as it is the intent behind them. I don't even care if you use words like "chickens**t" or whatever, for the most part. I just don't want the personal rancor to get out of control. I've accepted that people have the right to use words like "libtards" or "Obamabots," and it doesn't really bother me. Most of the time it's just in fun, anyway. So if I occasionally slip in a "wing nut" or a "rube," don't necessarily take it personally. The main point I wanted to make is that I don't want the arguments here to get overly personal and mean-spirited. Like I said, I can dish it out about as good as anybody, but in retrospect usually think of it as having been a waste of time.

On the other hand, let's not mince words or try too hard to be nice, because I don't want to get into a bunch of insincere "We Are the World" trips, either. Let's be frank, but hopefully respectful. Don't pull any punches with me, but just be a little respectful about it, and I'll treat you the same. Now get your ass off my lawn or I'll taser you (just kidding!).

http://www.nj.gov/oag/sacb/docs/SACB-LicApp-CO.pdf

i can set it up, the above is the link to getting licensed. look it over.
the fight would be in jersey.

you will have to be screened for hepatitis etc, but I will be more than willing to have a third party hold enough cash to reimburse the cost, provided you actually fight, and don't dive on the matt, which you undoubtably will.

If you dive, and our third party holding the money determines that you have chickened out, I don't reimburse for you medical testing that you will need to be licensed.

The nice thing is that if you get licensed, we won't need worry about gloves, but this will increase the odds of my success in breaking your bones, dramatically. I would snap your rib cage so hard with my shin, joe liebermann would hear it popping in conneticut.

I can pretty much guarantee that there isn't a doctor that would allow your sorry ass to actually fight, and I sincerely doubt you would test negative for hepatitis, let alone hiv, as the mentally ill tend to be afflicted with.

my gift, to you, if you can get licensed, is a trip to churrascaria tribeca(nyc) at my expense. we'll dine like kings.

i'll give you 5 grand if you beat me, and you owe me nothing if i win. I figure your medical expenses will exceed 5 grand anyway, and I don't want you to go broke.

I figure dan has your ip address, so I don't exactly want to fight some proxy, so if you accept you must verify that you are the person in question. I would let dan be the arbiter and verifier of this matter. since you claim you are a cop, and since the licensing, upon completion would allow us to exchange personal information, we'll just verify that it is you, when we finally exchange personal information.

if you accept this, believe you can pass a physical, and get licensed, please respond HERE within 48 hours.

i'll restate, this would fall under mixed martial arts contest, but I if you accept, you can also pick boxing, although it would be the chickenshit thing to do.

48 hours.

you guys can't compete on ideas. You don't have the facts to support your cause. You are increasingly being seen as irrational, a fringe element and even insane by the general public. Your "birther" movement has received widespread scorn and derision outside of wingnut circles. You have lost the Presidency. You have lost the House of Represenative. And now with the good Senator from Minnesota you have even lost the ability to filibuster in the US Senate. Oh, and lets not forget, we now have an African American President, Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State, and we are about to confirm a latina into the Supreme Court. No wonder you so obviously seething with anger that spews out into your comments.

As for myself, if you look at my posts you'll see that I have put in lots of content on my views. I had a particularly long post on the Gates matter from the perspective of a former police officer. What do I get in return? The juvenile comeback that I am a liar and could not have been a cop. So be it. I couldn't give two shits what you think Darth you have demonstrated that you have zero credibility with me. Listen guys, I know you are used to being bullies and it irritates the crap out of you that I give it back to you in like form. I enjoyed doing that as a cop. When I had one of those real shitheads that terrorized their little neighborhoods, I loved to publicly humiliate them to knock them down a peg or two to show to everyone else that they are nothing but a punk. Darth, you are nothing but a punk. You add no value to this site. If anyone should be bounced from this site it is you with your obscenities and threats against others that post. You guys just can't handle a liberal that stands up for himself and isnt' driven away by your attacks. What more do you want Darth, you got the huge numbers out here. Many many more people agree with your positions than mine. It is a right wing blog after all. So rally the troops with your intellect. Show me up with your comments on what I've said. But no. You can't so you call me names. That is why I decided to call you Wide Stance. Because I know it so fucking gets under your skin. It's my, not so subtle, way of saying FU Darth.... you reap what you sow.

Now in a prior post you alluded to having spoken with Dan and that is was "very illuminating". I love a good mystery but if you are suggesting that what I said was not true about my contacting Dan in advance and asking him if he would rather not post that I am calling you out. Let me hear from Dan that that did not happen. Or are you just blowing smoke out of your ass once again

"you guys can't compete on ideas. You don't have the facts to support your cause."

Our ideas & facts are just fine, dumbass. If you think a majority of Americans want to be coddled from cradle to grave, you're more of a fool than anyone here has taken you for.

Our problem is that we've entrusted our party to pieces of crap who think more like you than like us. People like Lindsey Graham, This is something we're in the process of fixing.

"You are increasingly being seen as irrational, a fringe element and even insane by the general public"

Would that be by the 33-to-44 percent of Demoscum with which your beloved pollsters always weight their polls, numbnuts? Kinda like polling the inmates at the asylum on whether or not they're crazy, hm?

"And now with the good Senator from Minnesota you have even lost the ability to filibuster in the US Senate."

Wonderful things, those stolen elections. Only in America can more people vote than were actually registered. We oughta try that sometime, give you fools a taste of your own medicine. After all, you keep whining that we do it (while doing it yourselves) - we might as well _try_ to make you happy, hm? (snicker)

"Oh, and lets not forget, we now have an African American President, Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State, and we are about to confirm a latina into the Supreme Court."

Always about race & gender with you Demoscum, isn't it? Never the person's accomplishments, no - always some quota you've gotta fill. No wonder the Donktards always screw up whatever they touch.

"As for myself, if you look at my posts you'll see that I have put in lots of content on my views."

Yeah, let's have a look at that "content":

"hey, nothing like having a photo of a scary brown person holding a gun for your red meat constituency huh Riehl. Way to go."

Lotta "content" there, alright.

And with that, I gotta go to work. (Unlike you, I have a job that doesn't involve deep fryers.) I'll rip up the rest of your pathetic little cowardly screed tonight.

kisses.. kisses to Darth. I love you brother.

"You are increasingly being seen as irrational, a fringe element and even insane by the general public. Your "birther" movement has received widespread scorn and derision outside of wingnut circles."

65% approval is now down to 49% approval, in 7 months.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

as for the "birthers", although I'm not one, I consider them a minor movment when compared with the 35% "truthers" that make up the democratic vote. I would no more disown them, then I would my grandmother.

48 hour gone. the betting window is closed.

I thank you for not accepting. It would have been a significant financial hit, for the brief reward of sadistic pleasure.

I won't deny the unique exhiliration, but having learned to live in acceptance of some pretty hefty past dishonor on my part, I know that I would not have truly won anything.

I wish you good health in the future, even if it is filled with your fullest efforts at annoying me.

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