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the profiling theory that gates has been going with, which was floated by obama at his presser, is a definite no-go.

trying to cash in on the victimization/profiling that does occur, especially in urban areas to the poorest african americans, doesn't pass the sniff test.

it as if team obama/gates offered the recycled argument, "we feel your pain"- despite our exorbitant pay and expensive houses. there might be something in there, for a while, but the well is going to go dry if they don't stop drinking from it so much.

These grifters have always been in it for the money. And with a population of 300 million they will always find enough 'Suckers' to make that pay.If you doubt this look at the sales for the HSN network.
Oh,BTW,Good job on the gates foundation thing Danno.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/07/28/a_post-racial_president_97642.html

thomas sowell.

would offer an excerpt, but it would be a disservice to edit anything out.

OMG, "And one former Obama supporter says she won't vote for him again based on this incident and his remarks."

Obama is doomed... A whole one former supporter won't vote for him again? Damn, the end is near.

Seems like Crawley's Police Report was at a minimum sloppy but some might suggest not truthful.

"A report filed by the arresting officer, Sgt. James M. Crowley, said she told him she had seen “what appeared to be two black males with backpacks” on the porch of the home.

On Monday, Ms. Whalen’s lawyer said she had never mentioned race to Sergeant Crowley.

“She didn’t speak to Sergeant Crowley at the scene except to say, ‘I’m the one who called,’ ” said the lawyer, Wendy J. Murphy. “And he said, ‘Wait right there,’ and walked into the house. She never used the word black and never said the word backpacks to anyone.”

hmmm... interesting. Race never gets mentioned by the person that called 911 nor in the subsequent radio transmissions yet Crwoley's report tells a different story. And where did he get this about "backpacks". The complainant said she saw luggage but he called it backpacks. Not many bunglers do their break-ins while carrying luggage.

Interesting. I don't know what it means but I find it curious that Crowley found it necessary to make stuff up about the incident. Makes you question the rest of the report doesn't it? you know, the "your momma" comment and all the supposed yelling and "tumultuous" behavior on the part of the professor which strangely was notably absent in the radio transmissions that I heard.

Interesting. Very interesting. Perhaps there is a simple explanation for the report's discrepancy. I look forward to hearing it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/us/28gates.html?hp

They won't ever stop, but we can still expose and beat them. Scammers, con artists and hucksters will always be with us, but exposure and delegitimization should be our weapons.

If there’s anything that we can take away from all of this it’s simply that no matter what, Obama's "post racial" mem is over.

"anti war" over
"pro gay" over
"health care" over
"fiscal responsibility" over.

Fastest lame duck in the history of the United States.

Seems like Slide's comments are, as usual, a bit sloppy and perhaps untruthful.

Keep on attacking the cop. It's a sure-fire winning formula to attack an apparently widely-respected, highly qualified police officer for not kowtowing to an elite liberal.

tell you what slide, you worry about Crowley, we'll worry about obama:

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, I -- I should say at the outset that Skip Gates is a friend, so I may be a little biased here. I don't know all the facts...

Now, I've -- I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.

And number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcing disproportion ately. That's just a fact.


you can speculate on the incident, to your hearts content.

I for one, would love to see the libs trying to find cover for the potus, by smearing an officer. I feel bad for Crowley, but attacking him is the only fig leaf they can hold up to protect their presidency.

"OMG,""And one former Obama supporter says she won't vote for him again based on this incident and his remarks.""

"Obama is doomed... A whole one former supporter won't vote for him again? Damn, the end is near."

Sldie, she's more than one former supporter. She's a cop. A cop who has worked with Crowley for 11 years plus she said she's known him even longer. As the former cop you play on the blogosphere, I would have thought her vouching for Crowley would given you some pause. But no, your mind is too illiberal to be changed.

LOL....Mrs. Peperium, to Slide and the Obama Party, she lost her blackness the minute she sided with the white devil and against the Obamamessiah.

Again, nothing we haven't seen before from Barack Obama and his endorsees.

"White and Kinney both testified Kilpatrick used the F-word in describing them while urging his security detail to get them off the porch. They said the mayor also made racial remarks about her and White.

"You're a black woman,'' Kinney quoted the mayor as telling her. ``You should be ashamed of yourself being with a man with the last name white. You should not be a part of this."

White is white. Kinney and Kilpatrick are black. "He was very, very angry,'' Kinney told the court."

http://www.wwj.com/pages/2788316.php?


"A cop who has worked with Crowley for 11 years plus she said she's known him even longer."

OBG... Double OMB, she is a Negro? silly Mrs. P.

She is being loyal to a friend. She worked for him for 11 years for Christ sake. You expect her to do or say anything that goes against him? I find nothing wrong or surprising about that. And besides a black cop not siding with Crowley would have been in for a tough time with her peers I would imagine. As cops we have a huge amount of peer pressure to support each other because we all know we could be on the other end of the magnifying glass some day. Loyalty to her fellow officers is what I would expect. I don't know why anyone thinks there is any relevance to this. I don't fault her one iota.

Next

"And besides a black cop not siding with Crowley would have been in for a tough time with her peers I would imagine. "

Slide, Wake up. She's in for a much tougher time for not supporting the first black president. Oh, and she's competent and beautiful too. So she will be destroyed like Sarah Palin. Watch what will come out now bout her - to undermine her. The first black president will now destroy an African American female cop...

"As cops we have a huge amount of peer pressure to support each other because we all know we could be on the other end of the magnifying glass some day."

Yes and you still stand tall with your band of brothers. Watching your above and beyond the call of duty support for Sgt. Crowley has been uplifting for the rest of us.

"She is being loyal to a friend. She worked for him for 11 years for Christ sake. You expect her to do or say anything that goes against him?"

to repeat...

obama:
Well, I -- I should say at the outset that Skip Gates is a friend, so I may be a little biased here. I don't know all the facts...

same question to you slide.

"You expect him to do or say anything that goes against gates?"

one more question:
who among this little episode is responsible for the country and it's citizenry? crowley, crowley's friend, gates, or obama?

even more troublesome, who had the time to prepare for the specifics of the incident and STILL blew it?

everytime you try and go micro, I'm going to push it back to the macro.


crowley and gates SHOULD apologize to each other.

obama should apologize to this country, for his insinuation of race as a motivating factor, especially in light of his mulitple admissions that he didn't know what was happened.

fortunately he doesn't have to apologize for me to know how "sorry he is".

next up...an 'apology czar'?

"The first black president will now destroy an African American female cop..."

oh please. I don't know what's more nauseating, your victimization or your paranoia.

"Yes and you still stand tall with your band of brothers."

I call 'em as I see 'em. Sorry to disappoint you for not reflexively taking the position of the police officer in this case. But in doing so, I take the case of the many many more police officers who would have sucked it up and walked away from the "confrontation" without having to resort to the abuse of authority in making the arrest. Being supportive of bad police behavior does not translate into being supportive of police.

Even the Fox Legal Analysis, a retired judge, admits that it was an improper arrest:

Judge Andrew Napolitano, a Fox News judicial analyst, explained to Shepard Smith on Monday that under Massachusetts law, Cambridge Sergeant Jim Crowley did act improperly by arresting historian Henry Louis Gates.

His argument essentially boils down to the difference between public and private domain. As Crowley arrested Gates for causing a “public disturbance,” the action is improper on its face due to that fact that that Gates was in his own home. Additionally, Napolitano said, it was illegal for the police to enter the house to begin with, as the source of the report did not pass legal muster to constitute probable cause.

Napolitano added that because of the violation of Gates’ constitutional rights, he would be eligible to pursue legal action against the police department.

In his police report, arresting officer Sergeant James Crowley wrote that woman who reported the suspected break-in “went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of Ware Street.”

Attorney Wendy Murphy, who represents the 911 caller Lucia Whalen, said her client never spoke with arresting officer Sgt. James Crowley at the scene.

“Whalen’s lawyer [...] said yesterday her client’s only contact with Crowley was fleeting, with Whalen saying ‘Excuse me, I’m the one who called,’ and the Cambridge cop replying, ‘Stay right there,’” reported The Boston Herald.

“I want to know that, in light of the fact that Mr. Gates 4th Amendment rights have been violated, will [the media] rush to his defense? Will they demand that the Cambridge Police apologize?” asked blogger George Cook at Lets Talk Honestly.

“Will those same talking heads question the fact that the words black and backpack appear in Sgt. Crowley’s police report although the 911 caller never mentions those words in her call?”

He concludes: “We all believe we know the answers to those questions. Let’s hope we are wrong.”

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/28/fox-legal-analyst-gates-arrest-was-improper/

Of course, Slide badmouths the African-American female police officer, claiming that she won't enforce the law and isn't fair when it's a friend involved because she's too weak to stand up to peer pressure.

It would be easier to state that Obama made an idiotic remark and that Gates is a fool and racist for screaming at police officers. But of course, that would require Slide to actually criticize Obama, and Slide isn't capable of that, so like a good little puppet boy, he tries to tear everyone else down rather than admit that his Obamamessiah blew it and that Gates is an idiot.

What I said, "She is being loyal to a friend. She worked for him for 11 years for Christ sake. You expect her to do or say anything that goes against him? I find nothing wrong or surprising about that"

ND30 interpretation of what I said, "Slide badmouths the African-American female police officer, claiming that she won't enforce the law and isn't fair when it's a friend involved because she's too weak to stand up to peer pressure."

Interesting how a wingnut's mind works ain't it?

ND30 says, "Gates is a fool and racist for screaming at police officers."

You have no idea whether or not Gates was yelling at anyone. If you are going by the official police report we have a problem because we have already determined that Crowley lied in that report.

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In his police report, arresting officer Sergeant James Crowley wrote that woman who reported the suspected break-in “went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of Ware Street.”

Attorney Wendy Murphy, who represents the 911 caller Lucia Whalen, said her client never spoke with arresting officer Sgt. James Crowley at the scene.

“Whalen’s lawyer [...] said yesterday her client’s only contact with Crowley was fleeting, with Whalen saying ‘Excuse me, I’m the one who called,’ and the Cambridge cop replying, ‘Stay right there,’” reported The Boston Herald.
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Why should we believe anything else in that police report ? Why aren't you demanding that Crowley apologize to Ms. Whalen for lying about her? Did he put that in the report to justifying entering the home by giving him "probable cause"? Did he assume she said two black guys because of his racial prejudices? Who knows, but I think someone should ask him why he lied in an official police report don't you?

Man, can you imagine if we had Kelly King and more like her in Congress rather than race-baiting lefty idiots like Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee??? The mind boggles at how much better this country would be. I'd vote for someone like King in a heartbeat.

"The mind boggles at how much better this country would be. I'd vote for someone like King in a heartbeat."

Just curious, how many African-American GOP congressmen do you have?

(crickets chirping)

"Just curious, how many African-American GOP congressmen do you have?"

Please. Why should people like Kelly King put themselves through racists like yourself and your Barack Obama calling them Uncle Toms and oreos, blasting them as sellouts, house slaves, and traitors to their race, and making photoshops depicting them as Sambo, Slide?

http://michellemalkin.com/2005/11/02/the-vile-bile-we-have-to-put-up-with/

You'll notice it wasn't Republicans attacking Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas, Slide. It was you and your fellow racist Obama Party members. Why is that? Why do you hate black people who aren't Obama Party members, Slide?

Interesting how a wingnut's mind works ain't it?

More precisely, interesting how a corrupt leftist's mind works.

Slide cannot comprehend that a police officer would turn in or criticize another police officer for doing something wrong. That says volumes about the kind of corruption that Slide and his leftist Obama Party members support and endorse, given that they put friendship and personal associations ahead of enforcing the law and doing their jobs.

Out here in the real world, we trust the police and we trust people like King to do their jobs and enforce the law fairly, regardless of personal associations. The fact that Slide and Obama are both incapable of doing that demonstrates their unfitness to be in government service.


"Who knows, but I think someone should ask him why he lied in an official police report don't you?"

Ah, the hilarity.

Slide seems to think that repeating his "Crowley lied" meme over and over again, each time with a different "example" works, even though these "examples" have been systematically unraveled.

What you're demonstrating, Slide, is that you're a bigot who doesn't look at facts or consider evidence -- which is no doubt why you support Obama and Gates. You want Crowley destroyed because he made Obama look bad, and you don't care what you have to fabricate, what lies you have to tell, and what public smears you have to make.

We've seen this before, mind you.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/11/20/joe.html?sid=101

Just for the record, I will no longer respond to ND30's comments as they are inane beyond words. I'm trying to remain civil as per Dan's request but if I get into a back in forth with ND30 I would not be able to constain myself. But.. before I put him on permanent ignore let me just say this.

North Dallas 30, you are probably the biggest fucking asshole I have ever encountered in the blogosphere. Congratulations on your achievement, you certainly were in some tough competition. Adieu my friend.

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