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The former turd-'n-chief speaks! From the depths of obscurity he rises again, lost but not forgotten. I wonder what he has to say?

"-- Former President George W. Bush on Thursday repeated Dick Cheney’s assertion that the administration’s enhanced interrogation program, which included controversial techniques such as waterboarding, was legal and garnered valuable information that prevented terrorist attacks. --"

Ah! Just like old times.
Now tell us again the one about those WMDs Al-Qaida was making for Saddam Hussien. Also, tell Cheney to work on his act, I could still totally see his lips moving.

"Now tell us again the one about those WMDs Al-Qaida was making for Saddam Hussien."

two quotes...one is bush, the other is john edwards(one of the 27 dems to support the invasion of iraq, like the sec of state and the current veep)

"We must be prepared to stop rogue states and their terrorist clients before they are able to threaten or use weapons of mass destruction against the United States and our allies and friends..."
sept 2002.

"... we have three different countries (Iraq, Iran, and North Korea) that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries. I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."
feb 2002.

"-- The fact is that that Bush kept us safe for seven years after 9/11. No other previous administration in recent history can claim that, and for that we owe him gratitude and thanks and he should be pround of the accomplishment. --"

LOLS!
Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play? The biggest attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor and you just kinda write it off of Bush's record like it was something to be "pround" of? Hahahahaha.
Also, what's a series of domestic anthrax attacks? Also, what's a Hurricane Katrina?

aside from the two senate investigations that found there was no exagerration of intelligence, you have a good distraction with the "wmd" fantasy that you have created.

a more CURRENT and pressing issue, where the president is either lying or just plain stupid?

debate three:“But there is no doubt that we’ve been living beyond our means and we’re going to have to make some adjustments. Now, what I’ve done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut.”
or,
“We are going to ban all earmarks — the process by which individual members insert pet projects without review.”

apparently there is a willful blindness to the messiah. was he a liar, or just stupid?

can you make the argument about how Iraq has a greater consequence for this country, than finaicial mismanagment?


"The biggest attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor and you just kinda write it off of Bush's record..."

2004: Bush 50.7%, Kerry 48.3%.

apprently, half the country missed the 'blame bush for 9/11' theory. keep pushing it, you might get a special spot of "Loose Change" anniversary issues.

Those making under 250,000.00 will not have their taxes increased (until I say so)

while on the subject of where polls and voting distort your reality...

"Also, what's a Hurricane Katrina?"

basically a dem talking point. brushing aside the fact that dem/blanco didn't even bother to run for reelection, here is a abc poll...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1094262

blame bush?
55% no, 44% yes.

if you believe that muttering things to yourself will make them true, you must have a very sad existence.

to be honest, lama and obama were made for each other.

if they show they can recycle old arguments, despite having failed in the past, then clearly the arguments still must be( or can be made) true.

funny how "wiki" records history...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine

"
President Bush makes remarks in 2006 during a press conference in the Rose Garden about Iran's nuclear ambitions and discusses North Korea's nuclear test.The Bush Doctrine is a phrase used to describe various related foreign policy principles of former United States president George W. Bush. The phrase initially described the policy that the United States had the right to secure itself from countries that harbor or give aid to terrorist groups, which was used to justify the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan.[1]

Later it came to include additional elements, including the controversial policy of preventive war, which held that the United States should depose foreign regimes that represented a potential or perceived threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate..."

"preventitive war"? "United States should depose foreign regimes that represented a potential or perceived threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate"?

don't bother responding to me lama, you should spend your days writing/editting wiki entries, otherwise your whole wmd story falls on its face. I understand your justification-

you believe bush distorted the truth, therefore you are entitled to the same right, on the same subject.

kinda makes you 'bush-lite'.

"-- two quotes...one is bush, the other is john edwards(one of the 27 dems to support the invasion of iraq, like the sec of state and the current veep) --"

Hey, Bush lied and people died. You could find similar quotes from Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, or Harry Reid without too much trouble. In 2002. And yet, in 2002 we had Colin Powell on the floor of the UN demanding a coalition to rid Iraq of roving chemical weapons labs and secret biological laboratories that - following the actual invasion - were never produced.

Other fun Bush / Cheney quotes:

http://zfacts.com/p/581.html

"-- Cheney: No Doubt Saddam Has WMD
Aug. 26, 2002
Dick Cheney, Vice President
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." --"

"-- Bush: 500 Tons of Sarin, 30,000 Munitions
Jan. 28, 2003
George W. Bush
"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent" and "upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents... " --"

I remember something about Republicans shouting, "They were moved to Syria! Quick, invade Syria!" Whatever happened with that?

"-- 2004: Bush 50.7%, Kerry 48.3%.

apprently, half the country missed the 'blame bush for 9/11' theory. keep pushing it, you might get a special spot of "Loose Change" anniversary issues. --"

And in 2004, Bush had a positive approval rating. Four years and several dozen scandals latter, not so much. You'll notice the "Bush's Third Term" label wasn't being used by the Republicans to sell a McCain Presidency. I wonder why?

If you've got to dig up a 4 year old poll to prove a point about current opinions, you might not have a point to make. Although, I understand if you want to pretend like the last four years never happened.


"-- blame bush?
55% no, 44% yes. --"

I like how when 44% of the US Population notices the President fucks up they don't matter. Keep trying, Marky.


"-- "preventitive war"? "United States should depose foreign regimes that represented a potential or perceived threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate"?

don't bother responding to me lama, you should spend your days writing/editting wiki entries, otherwise your whole wmd story falls on its face. I understand your justification- --"

Not sure what your point here is. You found a wiki entry defining the Bush Doctrine as Pre-emptive war. Ok? How does this defend the Iraq War in any regard? Or justify unlawful imprisonment and torture of prisoners in US custody? Or reflect positively on any of the host of other Bush war crimes?

I mean, we could rehash all the old arguments made by the wingers over the last eight years. They have been many and varied, some contradicting others, many based on "hypotheticals" - ticking time bombs, weapons that don't exist, "Curveball" intelligence briefs and Nigerian yellow cake - that didn't occur, and they've all been refuted repeatedly by liberals, moderates, apolitical professionals, and even mainstream conservatives.

Rather than admitting the gargantuan errors made over, you insist on defending the indefensible and incorporating failed policy into political dogma, as though screaming "Torture is ok!" over and over again will one day make the deplorable practice less ineffective. You'll trout out the same failed policy makers - Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Gonzo - to make the same tired arguments that failed to sway voters in '06 and '08. And you'll continue to see the American people reject your political leadership, as they did in '06 and '08.

:-p

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