Dude, Where's My Pliers?

Looks like Obama had to appease his base and release the torture memos - despite serious claims that doing so will leave America less safe.

I must say, after reading the allegedly infamous Bybee memo, I was unimpressed.

Is this all we got? We'd be better off signing them up for fraternities.

Ewwww, a bug.

Maybe Obama plans on simply inviting them to the WH in the future and punishing them by making them listen to speech after speech sans teleprompter until they give it up?

Now, that would be inhumane!

Comments

[mark l.]

does showing a detainee a pic of Napolitano wearing a strap-on violate their rights?

i'd be scared.

[JustOneMan]

.........Breaking News..........

Fullfilling the new administrations promise of full transparency Obama ordered Kentucky Fried Chicken and Coke to immediately release their secret formulas. Oh and yes....King Barry still refuses to release where all the Tarp and bail out monies are being spent, results if the bank stress tests or a copy of his birth certificate...

Now back to our regular program.

[JustOneMan]

rumor has it that Napolitano doesnt need a strap on

[Steve]

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[Bosslowrider]

Napolitano says we should fear the sand box vets. Hell, I fear Napolitano!

[mark l.]

I keep hearing about 'alternative' interogations techniques that are reportedly as effective as waterboarding.

What's the state secret on this alternative? how does one oppose a known interogation techinque, but the softer alternatives that are being floated have never been examined? how can anyone judge their effectiveness, when the 'new' methods are never discussed?

there are four ways of breaking someone:
disorientation(drugs/sleep deprivation), pain, fear of death, and conversion.

everything else is a joke. I've seen a ton of people get waterboarded, to demonstrate its effectiveness. I would be more than willing to be the test subject of the 'kinder, gentler' approach that is reportedly out there, but has never been defined.

[Jimbo]

So to those who get a hard on when a brown person gets tortured, do you really believe we should toss our 235+ year heritage just to keep you on the right happy? Is that all it is? We are not less safe, we are not less anything. Obama righted a wrong - which you seem to think gives our enemies (who are they, BTW?) vital information about us - it doesn't. Torture has been in all the history books since time began. If our enemies (who are they again?) use torture against our brave soldiers, their blood will be on your hands. The right side USED to be the law and order party - not anymore. The right side USED to be about Wayne, Heston, Reagan - not anymore. The smallish cult you refer to as a political party is filled with scared and frightened small minded losers. Rather than show your backbone and patriotism, you simply want innocent brown people hurt. Such a cult...

[anon]

oh good grief, the average homicide detective knows how to use psychology to get a confession!! it is absurd to think the military is too stupid to get information w/out having to abuse the prisoner.

[mark l.]

so, jimbo,
what is the new interogation tactic that you would use if you were obama?

the only outcome of the US refusing to torture, is that we will now torture in another country. Probably unfair to say 'we'...

here is the new dem method, same as the 'old' dem method.
we give a list of people we want picked up, particulariy in egypt. The host govt tortures the suspect, while the cia sends an 'observer' who gets to ask questions.

the pdb that the left was all atwitter over, suggesting an terrorist attack involving planes?

the clinton admin was the first to learn of it, in 98. The means of obtaining it? terrorist being tortured in egypt with cia presense. That info became the source of some of the info in the pdb from aug 2001.

[Anon]

Torture is unreliable, if you torture the wrong guy or ask the wrong questions you're going to get bad information, it's brutish, counter productive and shows the interrogator is too stupid to use any other method to get information.

Everyone knows this. If you use torture 99% of people are going to confess to whatever you want them to, whether it is true or not. Yes, you can beat a confession out of the guilty man easier than you can get it from a regular interrogation, but you will also beat a confession out of the innocent man as well.

[mark l.]

"oh good grief, the average homicide detective knows how to use psychology to get a confession!!"

you are joking...aren't you?

[JustOneMan]

No Mark hes not....I see it every week in CSI...The cops ask a few tricky questions and the bad guys spill their guts!

How come they arent using these very effective techniques in Gitmo?

[Chris]

We're not interrogating them for confessions, Anon. What the IC needs is actionable intel.

[mark l.]

"We're not interrogating them for confessions, Anon. What the IC needs is actionable intel."

bingo...

as for police being more reliable and having superior tactics..."central park jogger".