Um, What Waves Guys?

I'm not 100 percent sure I'm buying this one. At JWF via Instapundit.

They have some photos of the airdrop here, but what went down afterward sounds like comedy gold. God, I wish this was on film.

However things went badly wrong for the pirates soon after the drop - they squabbled over how to split the money and then a wave washed off their getaway boat and drowned five of them.

It could be true. But I've spent a fair amount of time in boats on waters both large and small. Looking at the scant few white caps in those photos, just about anything short of a canoe and with a V hull should have been fine. I'm wondering if a force other than nature sent a little message to pirates off the Somali coast.

The U.S. Navy, which has had a warship close to the Sirius monitoring the saga, could not immediately confirm its release. The U.S. Navy said on Thursday it was planning to launch a force to combat piracy in the Gulf of Aden, an offshoot of an earlier mission. Chinese warships also began anti-piracy patrols off Somalia this week.

Comments

[Lala]

I like Bill Dupray's picture

http://patriotroom.com/article/5-somali-pirates-drown--in-a--storm--escaping-with-ransom

[Fred Beloit]

At the very least this early report seems to have some large holes in it. So does this interesting list, via Breitbart and Jack Tapper of ABC News, of jobs that will be created or revived by government action by some time in 2010:
Or more specifically, per industry:

* Mining 26,000
* Construction 678,000
* Manufacturing 408,000
* Wholesale Trade 158,000
* Retail Trade 604,000
* Information 50,000
* Financial Activities 214,000
* Professional and Business Services 345,000
* Education and Health Services 240,000
* Leisure and Hospitality 499,000
* Other Services 99,000
* Utilities 11,000
* Transportation and Warehousing 98,000
* Government 244,000
The Office Manager of the Office of the President-Elect's nums grow larger about every day, there are some interesting ones here. Just for example, Mining = 26,000! Mining?
Does Obama mean to have Al Gore expand his zinc mining activities now that his current business of selling carbon credits looks to be a complete loser?
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/pebo-provides-s.html

[Lala]

Re mining - I've been buying coal/energy stocks and news after the bell yesterday is that they are pulling back as demand is down.

Bambi said he was going to bankrupt the coal industry anyway so it must be zinc.

[jharp]

"Mining = 26,000! Mining?"

What gives, Fred? You got something against mining? I don't get it.

[jharp]

“I don’t know if we’ve ever had an opponent who is so disliked by Republicans as Al Franken,” said Minnesota Republican Party Chair Ron Carey

Looks like the love is already starting to show. Franken will make an excellent Senator. And that the wingnuts hate him is just an added bonus.

[Lala]

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[Lala]

Obama Hopes to Calm Americans With Series of Boring Speeches

Economic Address Contains Opposite of Stimulus

Hoping to calm a nation whose nerves have been rattled by economic woes, President-elect Barack Obama today delivered the first in a series of numbingly boring speeches designed to put the nation to sleep.

http://www.borowitzreport.com/article.aspx?ID=6977

[ET]

--Franken will make an excellent Senator.

I dare you, and your hero stuart smalley, to read this, jharp. I'll bet you can't get 1/4 through it without puking...

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bwhittle/2009/01/08/the-workshops-of-identity

No wonder your children are embarrassed by you.

[wolfwalker]

Mining as an industry has been consistently losing jobs for decades as mines steadily become more automated.

Dan, I think you're being misled by the lack of any obvious scale for the ship and the waves in those pictures. MV Sirius Star is a supertanker -- about a thousand feet long. Knowing that, I'd guess those waves to be something in the 6-10 foot neighborhood. If the pirates left in the same small craft they used to take the ship, and tried to travel cross-sea instead of into the seas, they could easily have broached, capsized and sunk.

Which is not to suggest that I didn't ask the same question you did: did the boat get a nudge from below?

[jharp]

I dare you, and your hero stuart smalley, to read this, jharp. I'll bet you can't get 1/4 through it without puking...

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bwhittle/2009/01/08/the-workshops-of-identity

Posted by: ET | Saturday, January 10, 2009 at 07:49 PM

You underestimated the puking factor. When I saw bighoolywood.breitbart.com that was enough. Ugh!

[jharp]

ET,

I forgot. Senator Al Franken. For 6 years. Get used to it.

He will do an excellent job and the Palin fans will love him. He's an outsider and not tainted by the Washington elites. Just as the wingnuts like.

[Lala]

It seems that they were away from the ship when they got hit by the storm, eh?

Having received the money, the pirates began leaving the tanker in smaller boats but Somali pirate Daud Nure, who was not part of the hijack but knew those involved, said one boat with eight people on board overturned in stormy conditions. He said five people died and three reached the shore after swimming for several hours.

"Jamal Abdulle, a resident of the Somali coastal town of Haradheere close to where the ship was anchored, also confirmed the boat sank and that the eight's portion of the ransom money that had been shared between dozens of pirates was lost.

Abukar Haji, the uncle of one of the dead men, said the deaths were an accident. He added: "The boat the pirates were travelling in capsized because it was running at high speed because the pirates were afraid of an attack from the patrolling warships. There has been human and monetary loss but what makes us feel sad is that we still don't have the dead bodies of our relatives. Four are still missing and one has washed up on the shore."

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/world/Somali-pirates-drown-with-share.4863830.jp

[ET]

--When I saw bighoolywood.breitbart.com that was enough. Ugh!

So you didn't read the article at the link. Too cerebral for you, I suppose.

Stay stupid, harpo. You have expectations to set for your kids.

[jharp]

"So you didn't read the article at the link. Too cerebral for you, I suppose."

No I didn't. I also don't do Coulter, Savage, Hannity, Limbaugh, and the like.

They are not real journalists. Nor is it real journalism. They are right wing hacks.

And the sooner you and your ilk figure that out the better off our country will be.

[Lala]

Et,
That's an excellent piece. I'll be emailing it to everyone on my list.

[Lala]

Meanwhile, the religion of pieces is acting up in London.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1111203/Protesters-clash-police-100-000-strong-London-Gaza-demo-descends-violence.html

[jharp]

Et,
That's an excellent piece. I'll be emailing it to everyone on my list.

Posted by: Lala | Saturday, January 10, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Hey Lala,

You should also send a copy of Ann Coulter's new book "Guilty".

It deals with exactly the same mentality. And why not include Michael Savgage's "Psychological Nudity" as well. It would fill their empty heads in between Limbaugh and Hannity broadcasts.

[Lala]

stop blogging - you're a criminal - a HARVARD Prof says so

Saturday, January 10, 2009
Harvard Prof Labels Google, Bloggers as Carbon Criminals

http://www.evilconservativeonline.com/2009/01/harvard-prof-labels-google-bloggers-as.html

[Philip McDaniel]

Another moronic set of comments from a narcissistic moron. Rant on, jharp.

[ET]

--No I didn't. I also don't do Coulter, Savage, Hannity, Limbaugh, and the like.

--It deals with exactly the same mentality.

Thank you jharp, for revealing the classic liberal mindset. "I won't read or hear any opposing viewpoints. I will not tolerate any opinions but those of my kind. I will attack anyone with opposing views with slogans and bromides. I will stay uniformed, unenlightened and angry."

If it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker it doesn't fit in your brain.

Progressive, my ass.

[ET]

LaLa,

I guess it is a blog for hollywood conservatives. I got a real kick out of this one, too:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/ggraham/2009/01/06/one-pissed-off-dude-5

[Fred Beloit]

Harpo asks the jokey question: ""Mining = 26,000! Mining?"
What gives, Fred? You got something against mining? I don't get it.?

I have nothing against mining. I don't like Al Gore. He's a phony and a con artist. Got it?

[jharp]

ET,

"I won't read or hear any opposing viewpoints. I will not tolerate any opinions but those of my kind."

You really don't get it, do you? It has nothing to do with opposing viewpoints. They are right wing hacks. Not real journalists. And breitbart is one of them.

I do read and will gladly read any serious opposition views.

[Lala]

ET,
Thank you, another good article. BTW, ET, what is your definition of a journalist?
Do you consider Ezra Klein to be one?

[ET]

--BTW, ET, what is your definition of a journalist?

Right to the point, LaLa. Apparently only jharp has the proper definition.

If harpo or any other liberal here challenged me to read a liberal journalist like Ezra Klien and comment, I would gladly do so. Like most conservatives, I am not afraid of opposing ideas, no matter how wacky I find them. I prefer fact to fantasy.

Libs, on the other hand, don't have the attention span for real inquiry. Their anger at the world clouds their minds. All they can grasp are sound bites. That's why they are so ripe for the picking by the hypocritical democratic leaders, who feed these lemmings the lie of the day ("culture of corruption", "Bush lied, people died", "Global Warming!" "Hope and Change!") to gather votes. Of course, once in power, the dems go back on their promises and revert to their corrupt, duplicitious ways.

Libs prefer fantasty to fact. That's why they are mad all the time -- reality constantly bursts their bubble.

[jharp]

"I prefer fact to fantasy."

Me too. And if you be kind enough to point to a serious right wing journalism piece I'd be more than happy to read it.

Again, serious journalists only. No Limbo, Hannity, Coulter, O'Reilly, Savage, Malkin, and the like.

"Libs prefer fantasty to fact."

That is a funny one. Kind of like the wingnuts claiming Bush's Presidency was a big success. Only that it'll be years before we notice. That, my friend, is fantasy.

[Lala]

So, Obama says we all have to sacrifice. He and the millionaires in Congress can show us the way.

[templar knight]

"So, Obama says we all have to sacrifice."

Haha, I just bought my wife a new Tahoe Tuesday. Just doing my part to stimulate the economy, if you will. As a matter of fact, Lala, I have done more serious shopping in the past two weeks than in the previous two years. Things are really cheap, with 50-75% off everything from electronics to clothes. I'm sure everything will change pretty soon after the 20th, so if you want a decently-sized vehicle or a semi-auto pistol or rifle, get it now. Prices and availability are soon to change. You know, change a liberal can believe in.

[ET]

--And if you be kind enough to point to a serious right wing journalism piece I'd be more than happy to read it.

Is Fred Barnes serious enough for you, jharp?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/986rockt.asp

Or is he another right-wing hack?

[Lala]

Hey Templar, I hear the gun business is booming, no recession there. I did a lot of shopping myself due to the great savings, now I'm looking at vacation places since the airfares are all on sale. Argentina or Latvia? Both looking good.

[ET]

Meanwhile, stuart smalley prepares to join a democrat controlled government that can't get out of its own way.

Libs claimed to be embarrassed by Bush...now the whole world is laughing at this cast of clowns...

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/rocky-seas-for-team-obama/

Stand by, conservatives. it won't take long for this 'band of bozos' to implode. We'll be back in the white house in 4 years.

[Lala]

ET

Re Eric Holder, it's not only the disgraceful FALN pardons, it's his ties to Blago (that he initially failed to disclose)

"Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley and two other leading Republican Judiciary Committee members submitted a public-records request to Illinois officials, seeking information on a thwarted $300,000 legal-services contract that Holder won from now-disgraced Gov. Rod Blagojevich."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008614381_nationweek11.html

[jharp]

"will change pretty soon after the 20th, so if you want a decently-sized vehicle..., get it now. Prices and availability are soon to change."

Don't know how things are in Texas but here in Indiana there is an unprecendented glut of vehicles and prices are still falling. A new Ford F150 for $13,000 un negotiated. And few takers. Very few.

[jharp]

ET,

Pajamas media? Give me a break.

I heard they hired a plumber as an Israel/Palestine war correspondent. That is some serious professional journalism for you.

[jharp]

"We'll be back in the white house in 4 years."

You are quite the jokester today, ET.

Who's it gonna be? Palin/Joe the Plumber? Newt?

I will have to say I have been thoroughly enjoying the GOP implosion. Especially lately watching Palin tie herself into knots blaming her handlers for not allowing her access to the press then blaming her handlers for allowing her access to the press.

Obama 2012. A shoe in. Whether he deserves credit or not there is only one way to go from the GOP/Bush nightmare. And that is up.

[ET]

I guess you skipped the Barnes article, jharp. Too many big words? Or is Barnes just another right-wing hack?

Stay Stupid, Bro. Trim that mullet and rock on.

[ET]

Wait, jharp...here's one on your favorite subject:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/01/an_emergency_review.html

I double dog dare you to read the book, "The Top Ten Myths About American Medical Care."

Are you man enough to face to other side of an important issue? Or will you hide behind your sound bites and defend your preconceived notions to the bitter end?

Will anyone give me odds?

[Lala]

Maybe we'll wave goodbye to Chris Dodd next year

http://www.dumpchrisdodd.com/

[jharp]

"I double dog dare you to read the book, "The Top Ten Myths About American Medical Care.""

There is no way I am going to spend money on a book promoted by the right wing hack Thomas Sowell.

Hmmm. I wonder why he didn't even mention one the "myths".

"Among the things she discovered is that new life-saving medications that go immediately into the market in the United States take a much longer time to become available to Canadian patients-"

Merck & Co.’s arthritis drug Vioxx may have led to more than 27,000 heart attacks and sudden cardiac deaths before it was pulled from the market last week, the Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday, citing an unreleased study by government regulators.

And I especially liked this. With no evidence to back it up. None.

"In various states, these mandated coverages include alcoholism, acupuncture, breast reduction and treatment for baldness, among other things. You may just want insurance to cover you in case you get hit with some big-time medical problem, but many state laws will not allow an insurance company to sell you that "major medical" coverage, without all the add-ons that politicians and special interests have come up with.

The net result is more expensive insurance, which in turn can mean more people being uninsured."

That's right. American's go uninsured because "in various states" baldness must be covered.

Good grief. These are the people you read and take seriously? You need help, my friend.

[jharp]

Seriously, post one of the "myths". I'd be happy to look into it.

Thomas Sowell is a joke. And you linking his book review promoting some other losers book is ridiculous.

If you'd like to debate health care issues I be happy to engage you. I will not buy a book promoted by Thomas Sowell.

[Lala]

ET - Here's the pdf on state mandates

hair prosthesis is one of the mandates for some states - I guess that's baldness, isn't it?

http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:heae_4_3eJgJ:www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/resources/pdf/HealthInsuranceMandates2008.pdf+ny+health+insurance+mandates+baldness+coverage&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

[jharp]

"hair prosthesis is one of the mandates for some states - I guess that's baldness, isn't it?"

No. It's not. You fucking asshole.

Hair prosthesis is for cancer patients who lose their hair during cancer treatments.

You, Thomas Sowell, and whoever wrote that book are frauds. And vile human beings.

[Lala]

What a maroon

[jharp]

Hey ET and Lala,

How's that make you feel? Realclearpolitics, Thomas Sowell, and Sally C. Pipes all lying about health care.

And you bozos buy it. I cannot tell you how much that disgusts me. All of you are disgraces to our country.

And all of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Good God, has it come to this? What a bunch of lying slime.

[jharp]

What a maroon

Posted by: Lala | Sunday, January 11, 2009 at 09:14 PM

Good one Lala. Thomas Sowell, Sally Pipes, and realclearpolitics all post a lie. And a lie that undermines our country and health care system. And I call you on it. And your reply is "what a maroon". Words cannot describe the vulgarity and vile filth you and your favorite right wings hacks publish to mislead and damage our country.

How about it? You feel even a little ashamed? If you don't you have no conscience.

[Lala]

Heh

[jharp]

Heh

Posted by: Lala | Sunday, January 11, 2009 at 09:29 PM

Another zinger. Brilliant.

How about it? Do you feel any shame?

[Lala]

I like this idea - don't purchase insurance until you're sick -

"Further, Obama and Daschle want to prohibit insurers from charging different premiums to different applicants. These "community rating" regulations would ensure that a 55-year-old man with emphysema would pay the same amount for his health insurance as a 22-year-old non-smoker.

That may sound fair, but it ignores several facts about health care.

Younger people tend to be healthier and therefore do not use the healthcare system as much as older people, who generally have more medical problems. Insurers take this reality into account when calculating premiums, which is why young people pay lower insurance rates than the elderly.

But if insurers must charge both young and old the same rates, premiums for everyone will be in the stratosphere. Many of the young and healthy would not purchase insurance -- until they got sick, when they'd take advantage of the plan’s “guaranteed issue” provision to get a policy. This cycle would continue until the only people left in the pool were the desperately ill."

http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Sunday_Reflections/Obama-Daschle_reform_will_cripple_American_health_care_011109.html

[jharp]

Are you man enough to face to other side of an important issue? Or will you hide behind your sound bites and defend your preconceived notions to the bitter end?

Will anyone give me odds?

Posted by: ET | Sunday, January 11, 2009 at 07:09 PM

Are you man enough to face the fact that your link was an outright lie by your conservative hero Thomas Sowell. Or will you hide behind your sound bites and defend your preconceived utter BS to the bitter end?

Will anyone give me odds?

[jharp]

"But if insurers must charge both young and old the same rates, premiums for everyone will be in the stratosphere."

You are an uninformed moron. Have you ever heard of the concept of averaging? How about mandatory coverage? Ever hear of that?

Are you going to address Thomas Sowell lying about baldness when it's about cancer patients getting prosthetic hair or not?

You are a coward.