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And yet you fail to mention is that the vast majority of the current polls show Obama above 50% making undecideds irrelevant even if they break 100% for McCain...

And now, the end is near;
And so I face the final curtain.
My friend, Ill say it clear,
Ill state my case, of which Im certain.

Ive lived a life thats full.
Ive traveled each and evry highway;
And more, much more than this,
I did it my way.

Accept he did it their way...oops.

Wow, that's a lot of "facts".

The fact is, it's the bottom of 9th and the patriots are only down by 9 runs. They've scored 1 in this inning and have a man on first with 1 out. Clearly, this game is moving in the direction of the patriots!

Wingers are like the local meatball sports talk guy who assures his listeners that the local 1-7 NFL team really does have chance at the playoffs.

Remember, patriots, suicide is painless.

My vote has been cast for McCain/Palin despite the pollsters. Based on media comments, pollsters prognostications, Obama apologists, perhaps we should, in the future, let Hollywood and the Pollsters determine our President. Oh Yes, along with ACORN of course.

Yea, Dan, keep on dreaming. Unlike the Republican lies of the last 8 years, you can't just keep on repeating it and expect the public to believe it

What is indisputable is Barack Obama's chances of winning on Intrade are now 91%, up from about 84% yesterday.

Tick....tick...tick...tick.....

I know for a fact that my parents are getting bombarded with phone calls up in New Hampshire and they refuse to say who they are voting for but I know they are voting for McCain! This is reality.

Pennsylvania

RCP Average 10/27 - 11/02 -- -- 51.3 43.7 Obama +7.6
Rasmussen 11/01 - 11/01 700 LV 4.0 52 46 Obama +6
Reuters/Zogby 10/30 - 11/02 602 LV 4.1 54 40 Obama +14
Morning Call 10/29 - 11/02 617 LV 4.0 52 46 Obama +6
SurveyUSA 10/29 - 10/31 700 LV 3.8 51 44 Obama +7
ARG 10/29 - 10/31 600 LV 4.0 51 45 Obama +6
Quinnipiac 10/27 - 11/02 1493 LV 2.5 52 42 Obama +10
NBC/Mason-Dixon 10/27 - 10/28 625 LV 4.0 47 43 Obama +4

A must win for McCain, do the electoral math.

And it is a certain loss.

It's over and you know it.

This is great, religion will be revived in America


He thanked God for having "given us a Moses and a Martin called Barack Obama" and asked the Almighty to "grant that we together this nation under God may have the will to bring about the change we need" and ensure that "those who cast their sacred vote will not be deprived this right".

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2008/11/03/barack_obama_described_as_prophet_moses_by_bishop

LOL...you would think a super-genius like Obama would know not to use the same tactics twice.

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/three-things-the-obamedia-will-do-to-depress-republican-turnout-and-help-obama/

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/confession-of-an-obama-blogger-by-sarah-p-as-posted-to-this-site/

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/hey-eeyores-how-good-are-you-at-spotting-trolls/

Hillary was supposed to lose most states big, too. Turns out she came roaring back from polls that showed her losing just as badly in states like Pennsylvania.

It's all about Obama trying to disqualify his opponent and drive down turnout. Seems that the Messiah can't win on the merits, so he sends out trolls like jharp to throw public screaming fits and funky polls all over the place to keep people from voting.

OMG! Karen's parents are the key to this election! Almost a billion dollars spent and it all comes down to the wily maneuvering of Karen's parents. Such shrewd conservative manipulators! Well, that's it. Everyone can go home now. That's right - Karen's parents have sealed the victory for that little old man. Well played!

Betfair doesn't seem to agree - Obama's spiked up to a 13 to 1 favorite. He's up on Intrade as well.

Oh yeah, Betfair users picked ALL 50 states right in 2004. So did Intrade.

http://politicszone.betfair.com/zone?action=large_chart&exch_id=1&mkt_id=20739353&pcts=1

http://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/closingPricesForm.jsp?tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com&contractId=409933

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More BS from NDT.

Hillary was favored to win in Pennsylvania.

"The final Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the Democratic Presidential Primary in Pennsylvania shows Hillary Clinton with 49% of the vote and Barack Obama with 44%."

And Obama's driving up turnout - the percentage is going to be the highest since the 60's.


Thank God McCain's surge won the Iraq war before dumbo and bozo take over.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081031/D945OKQO0.html

Nice try, WPE, but:

a) you're quoting a futures market that can be manipulated by the addition of extra money and where the people who purchased Obama contracts have a vested interest in seeing the price be manipulated as high as possible so they can sell out prior to the election

b) you've turned to quoting only one poll, sans link, whereas before you were quoting multiple polls.

c) As the Hillbuzz links point out, this is standard operating procedure for Obama; game polls, then send out trolls to websites to decrease turnout.

Trolls vanish with a little sunlight. The Hillbuzz links have called you Messiah Muppets out, and now you're spinning. Furthermore, people have realized that the media is simply lying for Obama at every opportunity.

"Hillary was supposed to lose most states big, too. Turns out she came roaring back from polls that showed her losing just as badly in states like Pennsylvania."

From Wikipedia:
Public opinion polling from early January 2007 through mid-February 2008 consistently gave Hillary Clinton a double digit lead over Barack Obama.….In the end, Hillary Clinton won the primary by 9.28 percentage points

Facts, Shmacts


And the latest one being pointed out today; the masturbating Obama lied when he said taxes would only go up "a few percentage points" on those who make over $120k.

Currently those who make that much do not pay Social Security taxes on any amount over $102k, nor are their employers required to match in tax that much. The cap is in place because of the benefits limit on Social Security; since these individuals already contribute far and above what they will ever be able to get back from the system, it is unfair to continue to tax them for benefits they cannot receive.

But under the Obama plan, the cap on Social Security income tax will vanish -- so in addition to raising the income tax directly, this will also impose an additional 6.2% tax on the employee directly and another 6.2% tax on the employer.

Thus, Barack Obama's income tax plan will drastically raise taxes on those who make over $120k and their employers.

"Public opinion polling from early January 2007 through mid-February 2008 consistently gave Hillary Clinton a double digit lead over Barack Obama"

And the Pennsylvania primary is held in late April.


It looks like the Obama campaign has started early.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/17859950/detail.html?rss=nn5&psp=news

Notice this part:

"The exact number of dead voters is difficult to say this time because Ohio's Secretary of State issued a directive to Boards of Elections across the state to withhold dates of births in public records requests. That information is important in positively identifying dead voters."

What a surprise -- the Obama supporting Secretary of State doesn't want dead voters to be disqualified.

" you're quoting a futures market that can be manipulated by the addition of extra money and where the people who purchased Obama contracts have a vested interest in seeing the price be manipulated as high as possible so they can sell out prior to the election"\

You're either totally naive to believe a futures market can be manipulated a day before the election, or you just can't accept reality. If you believe those futures are manipulated, then it's easy money and you should man up and put major money on McCain.

$10,000 on McCain would make you a $90,000 return, dude.

But, you won't do it because as much as you love to lie on a website like this, you're probably not stupid.

"Masturbating Obama" - sounds like NWD's turned desperate. You might want to skip the Hillary comparisons - she lost.

Obama manipulating Betfair and Intrade - that's funny. I understand how ugly it is for your boss, but making sh** up like that just makes you look stupid.

Obama's tax plan is better for the Middle Class, McCain's is better for the Rich.

The real question is whether or not Obama's going to win in a landslide. I'm betting on 350+ electoral votes. He may even win Arizona.

"You're either totally naive to believe a futures market can be manipulated a day before the election, or you just can't accept reality. "

Isn't it amazing how Democrats are suddenly screaming that futures markets can't be manipulated?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/05/09/MNG8BIO3DS1.DTL

"If you believe those futures are manipulated, then it's easy money and you should man up and put major money on McCain."

LOL....if I have reason to believe the market is being manipulated by someone else, why on earth would I risk my own money in it? That's like playing roulette when you know someone else is rigging the wheel; the fact that you know they're doing it doesn't mean they won't rig it so that you lose.

We already know how this will turn out. Wingers all tell us how everyone they know, i.e. proper white Americans, is voting for McCain. Thus, McCain clearly has more support. Therefore the only way he can lose is if the election is "stolen" by "fraud" perpetrated by ACORN (even though such fraud is de minimus if not impossible in fact), the LIEbrul media, and black people. Therefore they will spend the next 4 years attempting to undermine their country with the justification of the election being illigitimate.

Wingers who love violence as a first solution will then proceed to conduct the same against targets they see supporting such illigitimacy. Much like the fanatics fighting in Iraq. I predict a dramatic uptick in abortion clinic bombings, maybe pipe bombs at the World Series, poisoning of judges (as Ann Coulter commands), and probably shootings at gay bars and the like.

In other words, wingerism will even more closely resemble terrorism than it already does. Hopefully the traitors will be dealt with fairly and given proper trials.

STAND UP, STAND UP, STAND UP AND FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT ! FIGHT FOR AMERICA !
MAC IS BACK !

GO TO THE POLLS AND VOTE McCain/Palin NOV 4TH. BE STRONG FOR AMERICA ! STAND IN LINE AS LONG AS IT TAKES. It is worth it !
Not God -amn America. God help America.

Please pay no attention to the polls. They are there to discourage you from voting. VOTE ! Just do it.

The pollsters are in the tank with Obama just like the Main Stream Media. Do not believe them ! No way, no how !

This is the only poll that really counts. They were the most accurate in 2004.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=310496941909729
An analysis of Final Certified Results for the 2004 election showed TIPP was the most accurate pollster of the campaign season, coming within three-tenths of a percentage point of Bush’s actual margin of victory.

Lawrence Eagleburger GETS IT RIGHT,
Says "Obama is a Con Man and a Charlaton.

Charlatan
Individual who makes fraudulent claims to knowledge or skills. Charlatans are also known as frauds, humbugs, mountebanks, and quacks

Con Man
Informal a person who swindles someone by means of a confidence trick

-->Barack read this book before he decided to become a nominee.<---

How to be a Con Man

"I could sell shit at an anti-scat party," he says, "you have to figure out someone's wants and needs and convince them what you have will fill their emotional void." A con man is essentially a salesman -- a remarkably good one -- who excels at making people feel special and understood. A con man validates the victim's desire to believe he has an edge on other people.

It requires avid study of psychology and body language. It's an amazing paradox--a con man has incredible emotional insight, but without the burden of compassion. He must take an intense interest in other people, complete strangers, and work to understand them, yet remain detached and uninvested. That the plan is to cheat these people and ultimately confirm many of their fears cannot be of concern.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1560259736/ref=nosim/0sil8

--We already know how this will turn out. Wingers all tell us how everyone they know, i.e. proper white Americans, is voting for McCain. Thus, McCain clearly has more support. Therefore the only way he can lose is if the election is "stolen" by "fraud" perpetrated by ACORN (even though such fraud is de minimus if not impossible in fact), the LIEbrul media, and black people. Therefore they will spend the next 4 years attempting to undermine their country with the justification of the election being illigitimate.

wait...what about the liberal crybabies who tied up the florida results in the courts after gore lost? you predict conservative terrorism? what a fucking tool. you are the idiot supporting a fascist. Iron your brownshirt, patriot!

"(even though such fraud is de minimus if not impossible in fact)"

Nice try.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/17859950/detail.html?rss=nn5&psp=news

http://www.morningjournalnews.com/page/content.detail/id/506245.html?nav=5006

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15189.html


Furthermore, it's funny to watch Democrats who support Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground whining about violence.

"-- STAND UP, STAND UP, STAND UP AND FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT ! FIGHT FOR AMERICA !
MAC IS BACK !

GO TO THE POLLS AND VOTE McCain/Palin NOV 4TH. BE STRONG FOR AMERICA ! STAND IN LINE AS LONG AS IT TAKES. It is worth it !
Not God -amn America. God help America.

Please pay no attention to the polls. They are there to discourage you from voting. VOTE ! Just do it.

The pollsters are in the tank with Obama just like the Main Stream Media. Do not believe them ! No way, no how ! --"


Sing it sister! Go to the polls, brave Republicans. Get in line and cast your ballot. Fight the power! Stick it to the Man! RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!!!11!!1!eleventyoneandoneninth!

You can do it. You can do it. You can make it if you try. You can feel it. You can taste it. Do or die.

Because this ball game isn't outside your reach. Stay tuned to your TVs. Make sure every ballot is counted. Don't give up. Don't fear. Cling to every last shred of a slim-as-hell possibility that McCain can pull this out. Please don't walk away from the table just yet. You've got so much to win, so much to live for! John Sidney McCain III as President of the United States! Could it get any better?!

Please please please keep trucking away. Keep praying. Keep fighting. Keep blogging. Keep believing!

You're making it all the sweeter.

The election's not fixed, not gamed, and won't be stolen.

Obama's going to win fair and square in a landslide - minimum of 360 electoral votes.

Bush has essentially destroyed the Republican brand. For their part in Bush's disastrous reigh, the Republicans deserve to lose. McCain happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. His time was eight years ago and he missed it - losing when Bush and the guys now running McCain's campaign unleashed their sleaze attacks in South Carolina.

"-- what a fucking tool. you are the idiot supporting a fascist. Iron your brownshirt, patriot! --"

Oh oh! They caught us. Well, now that we've been found out I suppose that means I can slap on my little mustache, dust off my military regalia, and goose-step over to the polling booth.

Heil Obama!

lols.

Ah, but you see, WPE, Obama can't win fair and square; that's why, as I pointed out above, he's supporting voter registration fraud, his campaign workers are casting fraudulent votes, and his website is enabling fraudulent campaign contributions.

Meanwhile, his hatemongering liberal supporters are, aside from hanging effigies, calling for the death of Republicans.

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama-supporter-kgo-libtalker-calls-for.html

Oh, and here's what other Obama supporters were doing this weekend in San Francisco.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/01/BA5513RV7C.DTL&hw=BART&sn=002&sc=390

Glad that several of the liberals here got a look at what the Obama administration would be like -- those of you who work and play fair being inconvenienced by those who don't want to do either and go screaming for your wealth to be redistributed to them and scream that you're "selfish" if you get upset.

Last election, Pew Research nailed the results:

2 Nov 08
The Pew Research Center's final pre-election poll of 2,587 likely voters finds 49% supporting or leaning to Obama, 42% for McCain; 2% for minor party candidates and 7% undecided. When the undecided vote is allocated, Obama holds a 52% to 46% lead over McCain. The survey was conducted from October 29 to November 1.

LOL......and again notice the semantic game, "supporting OR LEANING TO Obama".

Again, Hillbuzz hit the tactics already.

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/three-things-the-obamedia-will-do-to-depress-republican-turnout-and-help-obama/

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/confession-of-an-obama-blogger-by-sarah-p-as-posted-to-this-site/

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/hey-eeyores-how-good-are-you-at-spotting-trolls/

These ladies are tough. They know how the Obama goons play, and they've been calling them out at every opportunity.

NWD - Bullshit. Obama's going to get millions more votes, and at least a hundred more electoral votes. He's going to win in a landslide, fair and square.

This from John McCain - smells like redistributing wealth:

"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief. I really believe, that when you reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more"

Strange, you keep posting links that have nothing to do with the campaign or even mention Obama's name.

Desperate?

How come Obama's supporters can't seem to wait until the votes are cast to count them?

"Oh, and here's what other Obama supporters were doing this weekend in San Francisco.'

That's a lot better than what I'd imagine you'd be doing in SF. However, I do support your right to do it.

"Strange, you keep posting links that have nothing to do with the campaign or even mention Obama's name."

Like this one?

http://www.morningjournalnews.com/page/content.detail/id/506245.html?nav=5006


Headline: "Obama workers retract ballots"

First line: "Two Obama campaign workers suspected of voting here illegally have withdrawn their ballots"

The Barack Obama campaign, and clearly Barack Obama, support fraudulent registration and fraudulent voting; in fact, they encourage their campaign supporters to do exactly that.

*yawn*

"--- The election's not fixed, not gamed, and won't be stolen. ---"

The election is practically a non-event at this point. The Rothschilds of Europe and the Rockefellers and other high-powered families who own this nation have decided, and have chosen Barack Hussein Obama to be our new dark "overlord" (i.e. puppet leader).

America is being set up for a tragic fall, and fall we shall - accursed of God for our arrogance and rebellion against Him.

Judgment has come to the land, and great is the cup of Vengeance, filled with the undiluted Wrath of the Lamb who sitteth upon high... for in that cup is the blood of nearly 40,000,000 souls who continually cry out for justice to the MOst High God.

This nation, unless it repents.... shall be made to drink that cup of Vengeance down to the dregs.

Hey North Dallas Thirty,

The intrade numbers are now.

Obama $92 wins you $8

McCain $9 wins you $91

And kindly explain to me how these numbers are manipulated without putting cash on the line. And when you realize your stupidity kindly acknowledge that the numbers are what they say they are.

McCain is an incredibly large long shot. And getting longer.

You are a dolt and have no understanding of wagering.

It really is all over; we just don't know who won yet. Perhaps some of the more militant posters need to come to terms with what will be, will be and decide to accept whomever is elected and work within whatever political group they identify with to accomplish whatever they can. Bitching and moaning just won't do it after the election is decided. This entire country must appear to outsiders like a huge circus of buffoons.

Seek - God really, really doesn't care who we elect president.

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Republican Voter Registration Chief Arrested for Fraud in California


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/republican-voter-registration-chief-arrested-fraud-california/

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Good. Voter fraud and voter registration fraud are wrong; that guy should be arrested and in jail.

But of course, when Barack Obama's campaign and his campaign workers do so, the Dems here support it. Typical.

But of course, when Barack Obama's campaign and his campaign workers do so, the Dems here support it. Typical.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty | Monday, November 03, 2008 at 02:18 PM

Just make shit up, huh?

Most folks call this lying and the ones doing it liars.

"--- Seek - God really, really doesn't care who we elect president. ---"

Actually, He is well aware of who we will elect.

And because our nation derives its ruler by popular sovereignty - indirectly electing a president, and directly electing its legislators, it is a much more accurate reflection of the hearts of the people than the hereditary kingships of times past.

God is the ultimate fount from which all sovereignty derives; there is no king, president, congressman, or other potentate who has ever held power save only for the express will and license by Almighty God.

Even the electoral sovereignty we (may choose to) exercise each election year... is subject to the will of God.

"----- The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will. -----" (Proverbs 21:1, KJV)

And where the will of the people - that's us - is turned against the Creator of Heaven and Earth - that's God - then it is no small wonder that He then gives us exactly what our hearts desire: wicked, self-absorbed rulers who shall discipline us the the stings of scorpions and stock our larders with the bread of afflictions, and other vexations.

"The intrade numbers are now.

Obama $92 wins you $8

McCain $9 wins you $91"

Which means two things:

1) The Obama supporters last night who bought in at $87 can now cash out at $91 and make 4 points profit per trade.

2) Had I invested in McCain shares last night like you told me to, I would currently be in a down position, since I would have purchased at $12 and now only been able to sell at $9.

Not a very smart position in which to be for a futures contract.


Next up:

"And kindly explain to me how these numbers are manipulated without putting cash on the line."

If you'll recall, I pointed out to you yesterday how futures markets are manipulated -- by people buying and selling multiple contracts in conjunction with others. You buy the bulk of your contracts low, bid a few higher to drive the price up, and then sell when people start biting at the higher price.

Here's how you do it in more detail:

"I'd like to give one specific example of how in a single day – January 31, 2002 – Enron used an unregulated, non-transparent internet trading system to manipulate the natural gas market in California. In August 2002, the FERC staff issued an investigatory report finding that out of a total of 227 trades on that day, 174 - or more than two-thirds of the trades that day - involved Enron and a single unnamed party. Most of these trades took place during the last hour of trading, with two parties buying huge amounts of natural gas from each other in numerous transactions. FERC determined that the trades took place at "higher prices" than other trades that day and resulted in a steep price increase over the last hour of trading."

http://www.senate.gov/~levin/newsroom/release.cfm?id=216595

Now, would you like to go back to denying that these sort of markets can easily be manipulated? In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if hatemongering Obamabots like yourself are trying to supplement your meager campaign salaries by doing exactly that sort of gaming on Intrade.

Just make shit up, huh?

Most folks call this lying and the ones doing it liars.

Again, jharp, your attempt to deny this is getting rather silly at this point.

http://www.morningjournalnews.com/page/content.detail/id/506245.html?nav=5006


Headline: "Obama workers retract ballots"

First line: "Two Obama campaign workers suspected of voting here illegally have withdrawn their ballots"


But of course, you support their actions and believe they didn't do anything wrong.

Dude, you're so friggin cluless about futures markets. The election is tomorrow. Everything settles out at the close of the election. There is no manipulation. If McCain wins, you'd win. Period. That's all.

Enron could manipulate contracts because they were spot contracts or futures contracts with maturities months out, and not settling tomorrow. The election settles tomorrow.

So, either man up and bet on McCain because you're so freakin' sure he's going to win or shut up already. Or, forchrissakes...just stop lying your ass off. It's pathetic !

"then sell when people start biting at the higher price."

And how do you get people to start biting, moron.

If they didn't buy Obama at 85 what makes you think they'd buy at 92.

But of course, you support their actions and believe they didn't do anything wrong.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty | Monday, November 03, 2008 at 02:34 PM

So just make some more shit up, huh, jackass.

I do not support their actions.

You are a liar. And a big loser, too.

Fox News. Fair and balanced.

"With just one day to go before Election Day, Barack Obama has a 7 percentage point lead over John McCain -- 50-43 percent, according to the final FOX News pre-election poll of likely voters."

Don't believe it wingnuts. Vote. Obama's staff has gotten into heads of the folks at the Fox Newsroom and has brainwashed them into releasing false news stories.

Gallup sez.....

"Gallup's final pre-election allocated estimate of the national 2008 vote for Congress -- from Gallup Poll Daily tracking conducted Oct. 31-Nov. 2 -- gives the Democrats a 12 percentage-point lead over the Republicans among likely voters, 53% to 41%. . . . In 2006, Gallup found the Democrats with an 11-point lead among registered voters, and a 7-point lead among likely voters, right before the election. The Democrats won 54.1% of all votes cast nationally for Congress, and a 31-seat advantage. On that basis alone, their current 12-point generic ballot lead could result in a higher share of the two-party vote than they had in 2006."

And I'm sure this is good news for McCain.

"Enron could manipulate contracts because they were spot contracts or futures contracts with maturities months out, and not settling tomorrow. The election settles tomorrow."

Do you even know what a spot contract is?

"Specifically, the CFTC's complaint alleges that Shively, while with Enron, engaged in a scheme with other Enron traders to manipulate the price of natural gas in the Henry Hub next-day gas spot market (“HH Spot Market”) traded on EnronOnline, Enron’s electronic trading platform. According to the complaint, the scheme involved a plan to purchase an extraordinarily large amount of HH Spot Market natural gas within a short period of time on July 19, 2001, causing prices to rise artificially. The complaint further alleges that immediately following the pre-arranged buying spree, Enron began unwinding its HH Spot Market position and prices declined in that market while Enron unwound its position.

According to the complaint, Shively took various actions, including agreeing to cover trading losses of, and directing a payment from an account he controlled to, other traders involved in the scheme. As alleged in the complaint, the manipulation of the HH Spot Market had a direct and adverse effect on the New York Mercantile Exchange August 2001 natural gas futures contract (“NYMEX Henry Hub Futures”), including causing prices in NYMEX Henry Hub Futures to become artificial.

Shively sought to dismiss the manipulation charge because, he argued, it failed to state a claim upon which relief could be granted. The court refused to dismiss the claim, holding that, for the purposes of Shively's motion, the CFTC had sufficiently alleged facts showing that: (i) Enron had the ability to influence prices in the HH Spot Market and in the NYMEX Henry Hub Futures Market; (ii) artificial prices existed in those markets on July 19, 2001; (iii) Shively was the proximate cause of the price artificiality; and (iv) Shively intended to manipulate prices on July 19, 2001. The court further upheld the CFTC's ability to go forward with its alternate claim against Shively for attempted manipulation."

http://www.cftc.gov/opa/enf04/opa4899-04.htm

That is exactly how you manipulate markets and get people to bite at the higher price. You then use that to unwind your own position and walk away with a profit.

You first denied that futures markets could be manipulated, and you were proven wrong -- with quotes from your own Democrat Party.

You then denied that short-term futures markets could be manipulated, and you were again proven wrong -- with quotes and easily-referenced links that show exactly how it is done and how people profit from it.


And it's amusing how a so-called mature "businessman" would so easily lapse into teenage-level slang, including "dude", "friggen", "cluless" (sic), and "retard" -- while trying so hard to get people to invest in something.

I wonder if this isn't how Obama's campaign workers are spending their last days -- desperately trying to manipulate Intrade. Wonder what they're telling other people who aren't as educated and cognizant of the futures market?


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