The Profound Impact Of Bush/Cheney

One of Bush/Cheney's most profound and often ignored impacts is their ability to bring out the utter stupidity of today's media. For that alone Bush deserves to be considered a great President.

You can conclude one of two things from this New York Times editorial calling for Bush to resign and configure a way for Obama to effectively take office early.

Putting Barack Obama in charge immediately isn’t impossible. Dick Cheney, obviously, would have to quit as well as Bush. In fact, just to be on the safe side, the vice president ought to turn in his resignation first. (We’re desperate, but not crazy.) Then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would become president until Jan. 20. Obviously, she’d defer to her party’s incoming chief executive, and Barack Obama could begin governing.

Either Gail Collins and the Times editors that published it are no longer serious people, or they simply have no respect for the Constitution.

Okay ... perhaps you can conclude both.

Fact: If Iraq is successful in holding on to its fragile, fledgling democracy and it begins to spread more broadly through the Middle-east, History will judge George Bush as a pivotal American President instrumental in turning around a particularly backward and malignant part of the world at a time when said world needed it most.

Fact: History will not remember Gail Collins at all. And the way they are going, that may one day prove true for the New York Times as well.

Comments

[Journo]

Very sad.

[jharp]

"For that alone Bush deserves to be considered a great President."

Revolting.

Don't you see the damage he has done? Are you that detached from reality?

You think it's cute and somehow Bush deserves some sort of credit that someone wrote a stupid article?

[PA]

"Obviously, she’d defer to her party’s incoming chief executive"

Collins needs to go read a constitution. After Pelosi, Byrd would get it.

[SacTownMan]

More first rate journalism from the New York Slimes!

Lets just go ahead and rewrite the constitution to get Xerses to start his "rule" a lttle earlier than planned!

http://technorati.com/posts/UKZotF5z0ZoBbvFOI0UXIc6rj0dI30_tBXBOodQWwqs%3D

You know Ace I knew it was Pelosi #3 after POTUS/VP but forgot President Pro-Tem Byrd at #4? Ouch no there's change you can believe in!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPqwgjgjvRk&feature=related

The KKK has come alone way!

[mark l.]

If Bush were to resign, wouldn't that make Cheney the 44th president, if for only a matter of weeks?
Can we say, 'Full pardon for Libby?'

I'm imagining the distress of msm at having to refer the Cheney as 'mr. president'. Kieth Olberman would have to wear a diaper to keep from sharting his brains out.

[Roy Mustang]

Please don't link to any more of NYT/Gail Collins's mental masturbation pieces. Thank you.

[Fred Beloit]

Gail is way too modest: "(We’re desperate, but not crazy.)" Why you have easily attained both states, you humble little vixen.

[Crazy Politico]

Here's a better idea. Bush resign. Cheney names Condi Rice as VP, then resigns. The GOP then has the first black and Woman president in the US, and then every head on the left explodes at once, eliminating the IQ vacuum that has engulfed the US the last few years.

[Todd]

"Fact: If Iraq is successful in holding on to its fragile, fledgling democracy and it begins to spread more broadly through the Middle-east, History will judge George Bush as a pivotal American President instrumental in turning around a particularly backward and malignant part of the world at a time when said world needed it most."
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I really do hope you're right, Dan. After all this blood and all this treasure spent, if Iraq descends into madness after we inevitably withdraw from Iraq, what a tragedy and a waste that would be. The Middle East still remains a cauldron of hate and violence, and the potential for devastating consequences in the future are vast.

I don't hold high hopes for democracy spreading like a weed across the Middle East because I don't think that culture is mentally ready for democracy. Most of it is too rooted in medieval times and modernity is not considered to be a positive development. Change in the Muslim world moves at a glacial pace. The neocons either totally misunderstood that or ignored it - or worst, due to their own hubris they overestimated their power to change the culture. In the process, the world doesn't fear the U.S. military any more.

Even if democracy does take root and spread in the Middle East, history will not look kindly upon George W. Bush. His legacy will always include presiding over the collapse of the economy and the worst performing stock market since the 30s. The comparisons will be to Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter, and not to Washington, Lincoln or Reagan.

[Lala]

Bold New Plan to Imitate George W. Bush
Randall Hoven

The AP reports that Barack Obama's economic plan "aims for 2.5 million new jobs by 2011." In other words, he hopes to do almost as well as President George W. Bush did.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics http://www.bls.gov/ces/#tables, employees on non-farm payrolls numbered 131,785,000 in 2000 and 137,623,000 in 2007 (the last year of available data). That is an average of 834,000 new jobs per year, even through the 2001 recession, 9/11 and Katrina. If we use a base year of 2003 instead, at 129,999,000 jobs, the average number of new jobs per year was 1,906,000.

By my count, 2011 is three years from now. Given Bush's rate of job creation, there would be 2,502,000 to 5,708,000 new jobs created by 2011.

According to the AP, Obama said,

"We have acted boldly, bravely, and above all, together. That is the chance our new beginning now offers us, and that is the challenge we must rise to in the days to come. It is time to act. As the next president of the United States, I will."

Apparently, it is time to act boldly, bravely and together to match George W. Bush's performance through recession, the worst terrorist attacks in our history, and the worst natural disaster in our history.

For the record, George W. Bush did twice as well as that from 2003 to 2007, when both houses of Congress had Republican majorities. You didn't read that in the Times?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/bold_new_plan_to_imitate_georg.html

[Philip McDaniel]

"And the way they are going, that may one day prove true for the New York Times as well."

Who?

[Fred Beloit]

Todd opines: " In the process, the world doesn't fear the U.S. military any more."

I call BS on that. The world certainly does fear our military, as well it should. What our enemies count on is that our military will not be used when necessary because the party that led us in World War II is now composed of and has elected a majority group of wacky pacifists. These pacifists disdain those in arms and all their works.

[ThomasD]

It will be very interesting in 20 years or so to see how history compares how Obama handled the paper losses of the credit/stock market crashes vs. how Bush handled the real economic destruction caused by 9/11 and Katrina because there is just no comparison between the two.

If Obama unleashes the heavy hand of government and stifles recovery like FDR did history will not be kind.

[Todd]

Todd opines: " In the process, the world doesn't fear the U.S. military any more."

I call BS on that. The world certainly does fear our military, as well it should. What our enemies count on is that our military will not be used when necessary because the party that led us in World War II is now composed of and has elected a majority group of wacky pacifists. These pacifists disdain those in arms and all their works.

Posted by: Fred Beloit | Sunday, November 23, 2008 at 09:26 AM
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Case in point, Fred: Russia invades Georgia in August, 2008 because they know we could do absolutely nothing about it with our military stretched to the breaking point. No country does that if they fear our military response.

[Fred Beloit]

Todd: "Case in point, Fred: Russia invades Georgia in August, 2008 because they know we could do absolutely nothing about it with our military stretched to the breaking point. No country does that if they fear our military response."

No, Todd. They fear our military. It is the majority of our people and our government that they no longer fear.

[Fred Beloit]

Todd, I'm afraid you have a taste for Kool-aid. Our military took on the Iraq and Afghanistan battles at the same time. Iraq is won and the fight in the Afghan is still on. The Russians were defeated in Afghanistan alone. The Russians know that the majority of our people and their Democraticic Congress have little to no taste for war except when they are outrageously provoked. They would not let us go to war for anyplace as remote from their thoughts as Georgia.

[Worst President Ever]

"It will be very interesting in 20 years or so to see how history compares how Obama handled the paper losses of the credit/stock market crashes vs. how Bush handled the real economic destruction caused by 9/11 and Katrina because there is just no comparison between the two."

You mean like attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11? And Bush's "handling of Katrina" - good job, Brownie, was a joke.

People losing their jobs, homes, savings, retirement is a bit more than "paper losses".

[scarshapedstar]

"I'm imagining the distress of msm at having to refer the Cheney as 'mr. president'. Kieth [sic] Olberman [sic] would have to wear a diaper to keep from sharting his brains out."

Uh... yeah. Okay. Sure. We'd all be so infuriated, forced to feign deference towards the most laughably corrupt punchline of a lame-duck President in history, forced to treat his 30 days as legitimate.

[Todd]

"Todd, I'm afraid you have a taste for Kool-aid. Our military took on the Iraq and Afghanistan battles at the same time. Iraq is won and the fight in the Afghan is still on. The Russians were defeated in Afghanistan alone. The Russians know that the majority of our people and their Democraticic Congress have little to no taste for war except when they are outrageously provoked. They would not let us go to war for anyplace as remote from their thoughts as Georgia.

Posted by: Fred Beloit | Sunday, November 23, 2008 at 12:29 PM
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You just proved my point, Fred. With the American people being war-weary from Iraq, that makes our military less feared. No Congress, Democratic or Republican controlled , is going to go into a war without the strong support of the people. Putin was well aware of that in August.

[StevefromMKE]

"You mean like attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11? And Bush's "handling of Katrina" - good job, Brownie, was a joke."
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That reminds me...who attacked us on November 7th, 1941 and who did we fight first?

And what, Blanco and Nagin were first rate during Katrina? Take note of how Bobby Jindal handled a crisis there WPE.

[cindi]

People losing their jobs, homes, savings, retirement is a bit more than "paper losses".

Posted by: Worst President Ever | Sunday, November 23, 2008 at 02:47 PM

Shame on anyone who lost. Greed is a killer

[Lala]

uh Steve, do you mean December?

[Terry Gain]

Dan

Could you please inform the NYT (and the boob) that the war in Iraq has been won.

1. Iraq no longer pursuing nuclear weapons or training or harboring terrorists.
2. Iraq a constitutional democracy which opposes terrorism.
3. al Qaeda defeated by The United States and nascent Iraqi democracy fighting together.
4. Saddam brought to Justice.
5. Iraqi militias neutered.
6. Bush's critics proven wrong.

Terry

[WBestPresidentEver]

"IT" is totally eat up with the dumb ass. That is what huge gallons of Kool Aide will do to. Sounds like something an illegal alien might say, only they are smarter than that.
She is so brilliant that she deserves a pay raise and should be hired by Obama and gang. She could be his personal maid and make his bed for him and wipe his butt !

[Lala]

Will Eric Holder CHANGE his mind?

Saturday, November 22, 2008

Unlawful Combatants Are Not POWs [Cliff May]

That was the view of Eric Holder, Oama's choice for Attorney General, in a CNN inteview in 2002 (as recalled by the WSJ today):

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MmYxMWY2OTZhZmQwMGY1OGE3NGI0Zjc1MjRiMTNiZmM=

[Lala]

Every day it gets more and more interesting.

DUmmie FUnnies 11-23-08 (DUmmies angry that BO may not punish the rich!)

We're beginning to see a pattern emerge. Whenever the Young Prince shows any sign of "moving to the center"--hiring Clinton retreads, being nice to Traitor Joe Lieberman--the Looney Left gets HOPPIN' MAD! They go absolutely bonkers! Although . . . isn't that really their normal state? Yes, but in this case, the target is different. Now it's the previously unassailable Obamassiah. They're not quite to the point of yelling, "Crucify! Crucify!" but you can see how they could get there from here.

read more at -
http://dummiefunnies.blogspot.com/2008/11/dummies-angry-that-bo-may-not-punish.html

[Fred Beloit]

We may be getting to the same town, Todd, but on different roads. "You just proved my point, Fred. With the American people being war-weary from Iraq..." The folks who are busy working hard for a living, raising kids etc, who don't have much time to read lots of blogs, are easy prey for propaganda. And the big media specializes in propaganda.

The big media pushes all bad news from Iraq and Afghanistan. The good things going on there are simply ignored by papers like the NYT and networks like NBC. It is just what they do. Good news from their perspective is boring and doesn't sell products. Their reporters and editors are almost all good liberals, who by nature oppose war and feel far superior to those who fight in wars. It isn't that the folks became war-weary, they were made bad-news-about-the-war-weary.

And the Left certainly worked hard here and elsewhere to do the same propagandizing, so did a lot of powerful politicians, eg, Pelosi and Reid, both of whom proclaimed the war lost, and, yes, Hagel. (Let this sink in a bit. Some of our top elected officials not only kept saying the war in Iraq was wrong, they said we are losing or have lost the war. Imagine, if you can, that you are a dirty, tired rifleman facing an enemy who recognizes no rules of war, imagine how you would feel hearing about this.)

Let us see how Obama's plans to "get bin Laden" work out. If he implements them, let's also see how the big media reacts.

[Terry Gain]

Good comment Fred. Those unwilling to fight small wars are destined to fight bigger wars.

On 09/11 the biggest sponsors of anti-Western terrorism were Iraq and Iran. Bush has solved Iraq. He has not had enough public support to deal with Iran and as a result, Iran, now the major sponsor of Al Qaeda and on the verge of having nuclear weapons, has grown more dangerous.

In the next four years Iran will continue its sponsorship of al Qaeda and that entity, decimated as a result of their Iraqi adventure, will regroup under Iran's patronage.

So let's all hail the Messiah as we attempt to take another break from history.

[templar knight]

Apparently the New York Times has gone nutroot. What a shameful legacy!

[TrishMac]

Apparently some of your readers are also nutroot, and they forget that rather than a war we shouldn't have started, the entire world believed the WMDs were there, and to the best of our knowledge they've found components all over Iraq. I would hazard a guess the remainder are in the hands of some people we don't wish to have this stuff.

As for being the worst president, sit back and hang on to your hats because if the media was capable of making you stupidly think these last 8 years have been bad, you are going to be amazed at how bad it can get, when it's bad for real!