American People: Better Than Our Media?

Remember that television show with Geena Davis as President? Everyone suggested that it was something of a plus for an anticipated Hillary Clinton presidency - getting Americans accustomed to it and all that FWIW.

Now imagine how "cutting edge" and "risky" it would have been for one of the major networks to put on a series with a black President. I'd bet you good money if you asked the network heads they'd have said, it'll never play. America isn't ready for that.

I believe one is still hard pressed to find many entertainment shows with leads that are black.

Meanwhile the American people went right ahead and elected a black President. So who really represents a racist point of view in all that?

Sounds to me as if the American people aren't racist, but the elites in media always thought they were. Why is that? Hmm.

Comments

[jharp]

Let me get this straight.

The major networks are racist because they cast a female President instead of a black President.

Good grief! More utter ridiculousness.

[rightwingprof]

24. First season.

[Lala]

The Unit.

[WBestPreidentEver]

I was going to say 24 also.
As far as the media, they are indeed racist, I agree, and not to mention they are racist against women as well in a big way.
If you want to get into the voting public, well, I don't know what the final numbers were to date in what part of the population broken down voted what way, they were discussing that last week, but in reality 95% of blacks voted for "that one".
Now if that isn't racist I don't know what is !
Intelligent voters look at the Candidate and what they stand for, and it just goes to show you that there aren't many intelligent voters left anymore.
This voting public in this country have turned into a crowd of people who vote on 'What my country can do for me' kinda folks, not 'What can I do for my country'. They will be in for a big suprise when they get nothing. Those houses they got into without an income to pay for it, well they will all be out on the streets. Tax cuts for 95% of the people. What a joke. Watch what happens. Suckers.
Hope they are all putting air in their tires and buying 'Clothes Pins' for that new clothes line they need to put up. How bout those thermostats, have you turned them down yet ? HA !
You want be seeing your friend Obama hanging their clothes out to dry on the White House lawn or turning down their thermostats down at the white house or checking the air in their tires. You asked for it and you got it now.
The most corrupt government I have ever seen. It will only get worse as time goes on. GASP !

[mary]

President Palmer, "24", now he does the Allstate commercials and you always think of him as President Palmer.

[mary]

"There is not too little government in the market, there is too much government in the market" President Bush speaking now live on CNBC

[sas]

24.

[Totally Heterosexual Conservative]

You seriously wrote this out and then clicked "Post" afterwards, knowing that its contents would be attributed to you?

"but in reality 95% of blacks voted for "that one". Now if that isn't racist I don't know what is !"

Black folks voting for a black fella - racist!

A white bread party that has never fielded a serious candidate of color for national office - not racist!

Morons.

[Fred Beloit]

On another thread The Amazing Harpo defined what a "democrat" was. I don't know why he goes through the trouble of presenting his case to the "irrelevant and powerless", as he calls conservatives. But anyway here is what "democrat" has come to mean today:

(1) A tax code so complicated that even tax experts disagree on significant portions of it.
(2) Using the tax code as a disguised welfare program and a means to control the behavior of U.S. citizens.
(3) The complete renunciation of the use of military force unless a Pearl Harbor type attack is made upon our soil by a large and uniformed force. Attacks by non-uniformed forces call for the attackers to have access to our legal system and a "dream team" of leftist lawyers. This allows the Geneva Convention protections and a lot more to cover those who were never intended to be covered by the Geneva Convention.
(4) The instituting of universal socialized medicine, nothing less.
(5) The abolition of any type of religious observance whatsoever and even mention on all federal, state, and local government land, except of course the "oppressed" religions, such as, Islam.
(6) Allowing, supporting, and advertising every imaginable type of abortion, including after birth abortions, using taxes paid by every American regardless of their religious convictions.
(7) Denying workers the secret ballot for union elections.
(8) Eliminating risk, and therefore innovation, in every kind of business transaction, in effect, expanding exponentially "full faith and credit of the U.S. government" to every exchange of funds.
(9) The prevention of any kind of intelligence gathering that does not meet with the approval of the ACLU and KosHuff.
(10) Elimination through court fiat of freedom of speech and of the press (even though we already have libel and slander legislation).
(11) The vast expansion of utterly failed and expensive government programs that were originally instituted to bring us world understanding (Peace Corps) and to eliminate poverty (War on Poverty). The world still doesn't understand us and there still is poverty (though the poor are now in possession of many things the poor of old never had).

I'm sure I have missed many more of these kinds of wonderful goals and policies of the democratics.

[Fred Beloit]

I love it so when they lie and follow up the lie with an insult. Now that is cajones:
"A white bread party that has never fielded a serious candidate of color for national office - not racist!
Morons."

The facts are rather different. Colin Powell could have been a candidate for VP or Pres. He chose not to go for it. Condi Rice could have been and still could be a Repub candidate for national office. Michael Steele could be a candidate for national office. But it's true there is a limiting factor on African American Candidates in the Repub party. Most African Americans are Dems and most are liberal...not all, no not all by any means, but a big majority. That limits the field of possible candidates. Then there is the fact that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is a liberal organization. They have opposed African American conservatives for all national offices, rather than helping them "advance". A certain Supreme Court candidate comes to mind.

[jharp]

Fred,

What a republican means.

1) Bankrupt the U.S. treasury while giving tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans.
2) Lose two wars simultaneously
3) Get 4,200 soldiers killed and 75,000 wounded for nothing
4) Appoint a horse judge to FEMA and lose a city
5) Get the rest of the world to hate our guts
6) $4.00 a gallon gas
7) Devastating stock market losses
8) Torture our prisoners
9) Imprison Americans indefinitely with no charges and no trial
10) Add $5 trillion in debt in 7 years

Did I leave any out Fred?

[ET]

Amen, Fred. That's change you can choke on!

--Lose two wars simultaneously

jharp, you are truly delusional. We won in Iraq despite the dems best efforts to sabotage the sitting president and the troops in the field. Gas is now around $2.00, so you are an outright liar. the dems in Louisiana f**ked up the katrina situation so badly they elected a republican governor. Our challenge now with guantanomo is that no country will take the remaining prisoners...how 'bout we release them to your town?

You are a laughingstock.

[jharp]

"We won in Iraq despite the dems best efforts to sabotage the sitting president and the troops in the field."

So what did we win and does this we can pull out?

"Gas is now around $2.00, so you are an outright liar."

Gas was $4.5. I picked an average though it probably is too high.

"the dems in Louisiana f**ked up the katrina situation so badly they elected a republican governor."

Right Bush's appointee did such a nice job with FEMA that he was ousted from the job. After the damage was done.

"Our challenge now with guantanomo is that no country will take the remaining prisoners...how 'bout we release them to your town?"

I suggest a novel approach. Charge them and try them. If they are guilty lock em up. If they are innocent let them go.

Now just take it easy, loser. You are part of an irrelevant minority and your input is meaningless.

[jharp]

Average gas prices.

It seems $3 is a better number.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_home_page.html

[templar knight]

You're wrong, the national average was $2.20 a gallon yesterday, and I bought gas for $1.88 today.

[jharp]

I meant over the past 2-3 years.

[templar knight]

And I'll tell you this, too, jharp. The prices are going to go even lower. That's why I sold my holdings when I did. With an economic crisis looming, and uncle Barry poised to win the Presidency, and the Democrats solidifying their hold on Congress, it was obvious to me that the time to get out was upon us. And I think my judgment has proven to be spot on.

I will say this, however. There will be another oil play coming up in the next few years, and that is exactly why I only sold off my working interest and reserved my mineral interest. Uncle Barry's programs will create an energy shortfall in the US, and when the rolling blackouts start, the politicians will beg for the oil industry to help them out. That's when I jump back in. In the meantime, I'm lurking on the sidelines.

[jharp]

Good luck to you.

Some interesting times ahead.

A few observations of mine.

I think consumption is going down for a lot of things. Gasoline, consumer goods, restaurants. And might stay down for some time.

In my business trade with China is way off. Way way off. China factories going out of business. Lost jobs.

You ought to take a look at the China bailout model. Very interesting and I believe I like it a lot better than ours.

And you'd be interested in the whole business environment over there. Low taxes, little crime, excellent public transportation, universal health care, lot's of days off for the workers, workers are hustlers, great food, great service.

However, no guns. And very expensive gasoline (maybe $7-8 a gallon) but few have cars.

I really like it over there and have many very dear friends.

[jharp]

And I'd like to add.

Our big mean evil government has really tightened the screws for safety testing. A lot. And it is really mucking up trade. It is more troublesome than you can imagine and extremely costly.

As a result American's can be further reassured that they are buying safe products. And it's working. And I can't complain about it.

An excellent example of our government doing it's duty. I know it's hard to believe with Bush still in office. On second thought it was the democrats that passed these new rules.

[IslamoLlama]

The very fact that you can make this post while rather willfully neglecting "Deep Impact", "The Man", and - as I'm sure you must have read a dozen by now - every conservative's favorite TV show "24" - TWICE! - just proves that you live in a cave in the woods, Dan.

"-- And I'll tell you this, too, jharp. The prices are going to go even lower. That's why I sold my holdings when I did. With an economic crisis looming, and uncle Barry poised to win the Presidency, and the Democrats solidifying their hold on Congress, it was obvious to me that the time to get out was upon us. And I think my judgment has proven to be spot on. --"

Market is up 7 points. Yup, we're all screwed. Screwed!
Retard.

[ET]

Typical non sequitor response harpo. The results in Iraq are obvious to all but the most ardent surge deniers, like yourself and your new president. The only democratic country in the region, strategically positioned between Iran and Afghanistan. If you think obama is going to pull out of there you are really naive...of course you believed him with tear filled eyes when he lied to the country about his intentions there.

--I really like it over there and have many very dear friends.

As opposed to here, where you hate your country and have bitter enemies. Maybe you should consider a move...

[Dan Riehl]

Uh, if I'm not mistaken - the black guy in 24 was killed? I said "lead," morons. That would be Sutherland in 24.

[WBestPresidentEver]

"I really like it over there and have many very dear friends."
Perhaps we shall all chip in and get you a one way ticket. Delta is ready when you are. Got your bags packed yet ?

On another note:
Did anyone happen to notice today that the market took off after President Bush gave his speech today ? Prior to his speech it was down almost 300 points. Hmmmm.

[WBestPresidentEver]

Hey.....Totally Heterosexual Conservative

Black Racism
A belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, "usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others."

Now tell me why 95 % of blacks voted for Obama ? Could it be that he was simply black ? To hell to what he stood for.

I would have voted for him myself, if he stood for things I beleived in. He did not meet that criteria. Sorry

As far as the others that voted for Obama, well lets just say that Obama was a smooth operator and served up a lot of that good old Kool Aide.

"Intelligent" voters look at the Candidate and what they stand for, and it just goes to show you that there aren't many intelligent voters left anymore.
This voting public in this country have turned into a crowd of people who vote on 'What my country can do for me' kinda folks, not 'What can I do for my country'.

Gas in my area was 1.77 today. If it continues to come down even more, I am
considering putting a tank in my backyard with a couple thousand gallons in it.

I am not a "Conspiracy Theorist", (the idea that many important political events or economic and social trends are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public)

but.. I sometimes wonder why things happen from time to time.

[templar knight]

Llama, you dumb ass, I was speaking of my working interest in several oil wells I partnered in. If you're going to comment, at least try to keep up.

[Worst President Ever]

Hilarious to read Dan's post accusing the media of racism after all the crap he posted. For some reason, the word hypocrite comes to mind.

[Philip McDaniel]

The reason it is so ridiculous to even attempt a discussion with a leftist is that they either don’t read carefully or willfully distort what they are reading for their own shabby purposes. This entire post is proof of that. What Dan said is this:

“Sounds to me as if the American people aren't racist, but the elites in media always thought they were.”

His comment is that the ‘elites’ in the media are out of touch with main stream American thinking.

OK Here it is again, in simple English: He is NOT saying that they are racist.

He IS saying that the ‘elites’ in the media (and here I am interpreting ‘elites’ to mean the power brokers/controllers in the media) do NOT understand American thinking and that is reflected in their programming decisions. If you are going to have a debate and discussion, have it about what Dan is saying; not what is currently on your political plate.

[Worst President Ever]

Dan asks:

"So who really represents a racist point of view in all that?"

In the context of Dan's post, there's only one possible answer - the media elites.

So yeah, he is accusing the media of racism.

Again, considering the crap Dan's posted, it's just a tiny bit hypocritical to get all self-righteous and accuse the media of racism.

[seekeronos]

"---
1) Bankrupt the U.S. treasury while giving tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans.
2) Lose two wars simultaneously
3) Get 4,200 soldiers killed and 75,000 wounded for nothing
4) Appoint a horse judge to FEMA and lose a city
5) Get the rest of the world to hate our guts
6) $4.00 a gallon gas
7) Devastating stock market losses
8) Torture our prisoners
9) Imprison Americans indefinitely with no charges and no trial
10) Add $5 trillion in debt in 7 years
---"

FIXED:

1) Bankrupt the U.S. treasury while engaging in unconscionable levels of deficit spending while failing to contain and lower costs.
2) Winning one war, (Iraq) stalemating the other (A'stan) and struggling to stand up a "democratic" government in the first, when we should have minded our own business first.
3) Get 4,200 soldiers killed and 75,000 wounded for ostensibly securing our homeland from foreign terrorism.
4) Allowing that lost a city to squander its funding, failing to implement a suitable replacement for its broken levy system.
5) Get the rest of the world to hate our guts (no change)
6) $2.00 a gallon gas
7) Devastating stock market losses due to unsound thinking and planning by BOTH parties
8) Waterboarding our prisoners (a borderline tactic at best)
9) Imprison Jose Padilla, the only American among a pile of foreign terrorists, indefinitely with no charges and no trial
10) Add $5 trillion in debt in 7 years (see also #1)

[Philip McDaniel]

“"So who really represents a racist point of view in all that?"

In the context of Dan's post, there's only one possible answer - the media elites.

So yeah, he is accusing the media of racism.”

Like I said, you either don’t read carefully or willfully distort what you are reading for your own shabby purposes.
Read the message in its CONTEXT:

“Meanwhile the American people went right ahead and elected a black President. So who really represents a racist point of view in all that?”

In other words, who is racist if they voted for a black President? Come on, it’s not that hard to understand. To phrase it another way, if the American public has voted for a black President but the media seems to offer up entertainment that consistently avoids showing a black person as a President then logically one would understand that the media is not in tune with the American people. And that is precisely what I think Dan is suggesting. And I agree with his assessment.

[rightwingprof]

"you always think of him as President Palmer."

Because he was the black Clinton. I wanted to see him assassinated.

[scarshapedstar]

"if the American public has voted for a black President but the media seems to offer up entertainment that consistently avoids showing a black person as a President then logically one would understand that the media is not in tune with the American people. And that is precisely what I think Dan is suggesting. And I agree with his assessment."

Ummmmm...

A) Not the first to say this, but, 24. Hello?
B) Your reasoning seems to violate causality. Prior to this election, there was no real indication that the American people wanted a black President, as evidenced by the fact that they had never elected one. Thus, a black President would either indicate that a show was set in an alternate universe or in the future. And indeed, these settings lend themselves well to the sci-fi genre, and I'm quite certain that I've seen black Presidents in several sci-fi shows and movies, although only Deep Impact comes to mind. Well, there's also Idiocracy, but that's neither here nor there.

[Philip McDaniel]

Well, I have to plead ignorance here, scarshapedstar, since I’ve never watched 24. I’ll have to rectify that omission… ;-)

And, looking back on my comments after reading yours I have to agree that my logic is shaky. First, I think you’re right that a black president has been presented in SiFi, although I can’t remember just where – maybe Star Trek? I guess what I meant to say is that the American people in general would not be opposed to the idea of a black President. Anyways, thanks. Good observation on your part.