Told Ya So

I hate to say it, but there either has to be more - very much more, or this dog won't hunt. On this one I think the Right is out of step with how too many Americans think today, especially Swing voters. I hope there is more, or its hurting him enough with certain groups.

Via ABC:

Likely voters overwhelmingly reject his effort to make an issue of Barack Obama's association with 1960s radical William Ayers. Fallout continues from McCain's pick of Sarah Palin for vice president, with 52 percent saying it weakens their confidence in his judgment. And on optimism, it's Obama by 2-1.

Me on October 5:

McCain needs to come to grips with the battle field he's on today. His current strategy is a losing course. The Ayers and Rezko attacks are silly without some smoking gun. Too many voters today had a liberal college prof that might remind them of Ayers and they don't know or care about Weathermen that aren't part of their evening news team. The people who care about those issues, and I am one, are either already voting for McCain, or sitting this one out. Also, is the fact that Chicago is corrupt really news? Hardly.

Comments

[Lala]

Is it Ayres or Ayers?

[Dan Riehl]

Ayers - lol I always do that, damn.

[seekeronos]

McCain needs to completely let go of Ayers and Rezko and maybe even Wright...

... and keep pounding on the "S" word.

SOCIALISM.

Obama will destroy this nation with a socialist agenda, along with the other 350+ socialists in Congress.

He needs to hammer on this with the same intensity, no, greater intensity than he did any other thing for the next two weeks.

Then, and only then, shall he have even the remotest chance of success.

[aww]

An ABC poll with no internals displayed? Waste of time - and interesting it lines up with DNC talking points. McCain needs to hit the economy but also stuff that causes people to question O's judgement such as Ayers/Rezko. People are looking for a reason to vote against O and McCain needs to give it to them.

[AdrianS]

About Barack Hussein Obama:

Poll finds Americans reject redistribution of wealth as suggested by Barack Hussein Obama

PRINCETON, NJ -- When given a choice about how government should address the numerous
economic difficulties facing today's consumer, Americans overwhelmingly -- by 84% to
13% -- prefer that the government focus on improving overall economic conditions and
the jobs situation in the United States as opposed to taking steps to distribute wealth
more evenly among Americans.

================================================================================

Barack Hussein Obama is a national security risk: a clear and present danger.

Quote from the Barack Obama book, Audacity of Hope, “I will stand with the Muslims
should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” And this man wants to be
President? I and several tens of millions of people think NOT.

http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=32

================================================================================

On February 27, 2007, Barack Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the
prettiest sounds on Earth." In an interview with The New York Times, Senator Obama
recited, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent," the opening lines of this Muslim prayer:

"Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "

http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of.html

================================================================================

Dubai Ports rejection helped US economic growth

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0307/0307dubaiportsrejec.htm

Reject Barack Hussein Obama, the Dubai candidate and help US economic growth!

Obama is a national threat:

Quote from the Barack Obama book, Audacity of Hope by Barack Obama: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

And this man wants to be President? I and several tens of millions of people think NOT.

http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68

[tim maguire]

It can't be McCain's only talking point (and it never was, certain quarters are merely trying to portray it that way), but it does matter. The problem as I see it is that McCain/Palin keep hitting the connection as though the significance were obvious. They need to tie it in to the inexperience meme--we know so little about who or what Obama is, he has no record we can look at, that we have to take a close look at his friends and who played important roles in his development as a public figure.

For most politicians, Ayers would be unimportant. Even I wouldn't care if there were an Ayers in Biden's background. But with Obama, what else do we have to go on?

[mary]

The one aspect of this election that is causing many people to stop and think is something you already addressed and is also addressed here: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/713lugxf.asp. This issue of a fully loaded democratic congress and a chief executive of the same party. The unforeseen circumstances that this may bring to the fore become a serious issue. Not to mention, that the question needs to be asked "Senator Obama, you are planning all of these programs, how are you going to pay for them?" Already saw two economists on CNBC today who said that what the next administration does will affect whether or not the bailout bill works or doesn't work.

[mary]

"Quote from the Barack Obama book, Audacity of Hope by Barack Obama: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

And this man wants to be President? I and several tens of millions of people think NOT.

http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=68

Posted by: AdrianS | Monday, October 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM"

Had never seen this quote before. So does that mean he is against Israel?

[Dan Riehl]

If a conservative were running for the GOP they'd see and paint Obama for the radical liberal he is. Given McCain's politics and his fairly atrocious campaign, he can't even figure it out - let alone make the case with his own mixed record.

What's amazing at this point is that it's as close as it is. Obama can and should be beaten, whether McCain is the guy to do it or not remains to be seen. Just like McCain over the years, his campaign is all over the map. If I hear maverick one more time, I'm going to puke.

[expat]

The connection with Ayers was never properly made. He should have pointed to Obama's tendency to throw other people's money after wacky and radical ideas and achieve nothing.

[mary]

"What's amazing at this point is that it's as close as it is. Obama can and should be beaten, whether McCain is the guy to do it or not remains to be seen. Just like McCain over the years, his campaign is all over the map. If I hear maverick one more time, I'm going to puke.

Posted by: Dan Riehl | Monday, October 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM"

Yep, summed up beautifully.

[jharp]

"If a conservative were running for the GOP"

Obama would have a 20 point lead. Wonder why a conservative wasn't nominated? Let's face it the GOP put up their only chance.

"What's amazing at this point is that it's as close as it is."

Truly is amazing and a disgrace to our country. The whole world is aghast at the stupidity of Americans. Just remember 4 short years ago we re elected the most incompetent and dumbest President in U.S. history.

Remember the headline. "How could 58 million be so stupid".

The whole sees the right wing wing for what it is. A catastrophic failure. Unfortunately a lot of Americans are too damn dumb to see it for themselves.

[jharp]

"What's amazing at this point is that it's as close as it is."

Maybe not and maybe Americans aren't as dumb as I thought.

Just checked intrade.com and.

Obama bet 85 to win 15. About 1 to 6 odds.
McCain bet 15 to win 85. About 6.5 to 1 odds.

[Lala]

There is much more to read here than just the part about Israel

America the Weak

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10202008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/america_the_weak_134398.htm

* Israel. In the Middle East, Obama's election would be read as the end of staunch US support for Israel. Backed by Syria and Iran, Hezbollah would provoke another, far-bloodier war with Israel. Lebanon would disintegrate.

[PMCC]

It's really been a matter of character and judgment. Tolerance for lawless behavior in any leader justifies the same in his followers. Barack Obama has been unclear on this, especially as we discover his 'friends.'

Why else would his supporters think this would be okay:

Last night and today, I'm hearing of people discovering charges on their credit cards - some over $2000 - to the Obama Campaign. One Republican woman called their headquarters and they tried to talk her into making the donation rather than removing it!

Today I read that a McCain/Palin bus was hit by a .22 caliber weapon - window - no injuries and neither candidate on board. Paintballs also hit the bus. In New Mexico.

Obama has neither the character nor the judgment to lead anyone. It's the basics, folks.

[seekeronos]

"---

Obama recited, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent," the opening lines of this Muslim prayer:

"Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "

---"

This would make, ipso facto, Obama to be a Muslim.

One of the very few things that Christians and Muslims do have in common is the principle of Confession, that is to say, a scriptural proof of faith that a believer publicly confess their faith. For the Christian, this is the confession of the mouth that Jesus is Lord and Saviour:

"-----
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
-----"
(Romans 10:9-10, KJV)

Only a true Muslim can say such a prayer, and the recitation of that prayer, also called the Shahadah, is sufficient for a person to be recognized by the Ummah (community of Muslims) as one of their own.

Ref. Wiki (standard disclaimers apply) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Arabic text:

أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله

Romanization:
ʾašhadu ʾan lā ilāha illā-llāh, wa ʾašhadu ʾanna muḥammadan rasūlu-llāh

...This version constitutes an interpretation rather than a direct translation, as the words "worthy of worship" are not present in the Arabic.

A single honest recitation of the Shahadah in Arabic is all that is required for a person to become a Muslim according to most traditional schools.

In usage the two occurrences of 'ašhadu 'an (or similar) = "I testify that" are very often omitted.

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahadah )

More authoritative source:

http://abdurrahman.org/faith/faithmuttaqun.html

[jharp]

Democrats and Republicans have settled the suit seeking to prevent Michigan Republicans from using foreclosure lists to challenge voters. The MDP statement on the settlement says:

"An agreement today protects the voting rights of foreclosure victims. The settlement acknowledges the existence of an illegal scheme by the Republicans to use mortgage foreclosure lists to deny foreclosure victims their right to vote."

Here's Michigan Democratic Party Chair Mark Brewer on the settlement:

Today's settlement protects the voting rights of all Michigan citizens and guarantees that Republicans cannot use foreclosure lists to deny or challenge anyone's right to vote. It is no surprise the Republicans back pedaled when their illegal scheme was revealed, and their surrender today ensures that Republicans cannot take advantage of the economic crisis to deny anyone's voting rights.

I'm thinking that one of days right wingers will see the truth and feel ashamed of what they have been supporting.

And it is lovely to see the GOP surrender monkeys tuck tail and run and hide.

[Lala]

Jewish World Review has links to Conservative writers on their pages - such as Sowell

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell101708.php3

Record versus rhetoric

By Thomas Sowell

We don't know what Barack Obama will actually do because he has actually done very little for which he was personally accountable. Even as a state legislator, he voted "present" innumerable times instead of taking a stand one way or the other on tough issues.

[seekeronos]

No jharp... the GOP could have wiped the floor with Obama and his socialist stupidity had they selected the Hon. Dr. Ron Paul.

Of course, that would also have required a fundamentally different understanding and involvement with politics on the apart of the typical apathetic American... but had we nominated Dr. Paul... I could have GUARANTEED that Dr. Paul would enjoy a 20% or greater lead over either Obama or Hillary.

Perhaps in the next four years, a majority - however slim - will be carved out of the carcass of America that will usher in a Paleo-conservative renewal of what once made America great.

[Rambo]

People are always expecting the next "Hitler" to arise from the RIGHT.

THIS TIME: THEY OUGHT TO BE LOOKING LEFT!!

[Lala]

I posted this on another thread but just in case you missed it -

Democrat voter fraud

Naming names -

GOTHAM-TO-OHIO VOTE SCAM EYED
NYERS' HOME AWAY FROM HOME PROBED AS A FRAUD OUTPOST

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10202008/news/politics/gotham_to_ohio_vote_scam_eyed_134392.htm?page=0

[ET]

--"What's amazing at this point is that it's as close as it is."

Maybe not and maybe Americans aren't as dumb as I thought.

Just checked intrade.com and.

Obama bet 85 to win 15. About 1 to 6 odds.
McCain bet 15 to win 85. About 6.5 to 1 odds.

There you go again, jharp. Trolling blogs and gaming sites while your children go hungry. Maybe if you focused more on your business you would be able to provide for your family and you wouldn't be such an hysterical socialist.

Hold your head up high as you put you hand out, loser.

[mary]

Ugh. Just reading the article makes me think that we no longer have respect and civility in our society:

http://dealbreaker.com/2008/10/the-question-is-which-one-this.php#comments

[Lala]

Good Grief is an understatement - http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/276075.php

October 20, 2008
Good News! Biden Promises an International Incident to Test Obama if He's Elected, and Also Promised Obama Will Screw It Up

Joe Biden's greatest gift/curse is an apparent inability to censor himself, and he admitted yesterday that Obama's utter inexperience and lack of leadership will cause anti-American regimes to target us as a result:

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

How ill Obama respond to this crisis? Biden is convinced that Obama is going to screw it up, and he's asking supporters to bear with him anyway before getting immediate buyer's remorse.

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Good grief.

Has any Vice President in U.S. electoral history ever made it more clear that his running mate is completely unfit for the office that he seeks?

And if Biden dosn't have faith in Obama, why should the rest of us?
Posted by Confederate Yankee at October 20, 2008 11:39 AM

[jharp]

ET,

When you work for yourself you can do whatever the hell you'd like whenever you like.

You ought to give it a try. It's a very nice life. Tues and Weds this week are golf for me.

It's the way winners live.

[mary]

"http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/20/what-happened-when-they-spread-the-wealth-in-zimbabwe/"

This is so sad to read.

[WilliamYork]

Mark my words. An Obama win will result in racial and class warfare within the United States, the likes of which we have not seen in 140 some years. We are moving closer to a socialist state without a liberal black president. Imagine what it will look like in two years if he wins.
Its not going to be pretty.

[seekeronos]

"--- I'm thinking that one of days right wingers will see the truth and feel ashamed of what they have been supporting.

And it is lovely to see the GOP surrender monkeys tuck tail and run and hide. ---"

This is coming from someone who undoubtedly wants to expand the base of Democratic Party clients/peons:

The Democratic Party is essentially not at all different from the near-socialist Partido Revolucionario Institucional (PRI) which has more or less ruled Mexico for 70 out of 80 years it has existed: it is a party of plutocrats who rule with a system not substantially different than the old Dons (lords) who ruled over their peons - granting favour from on high in exchange for their continued and largely unquestioned loyalty in the way of "votes".

"Votes", which at various points were little more than a formality.

In like manner, the DP in the USA is also a party of peonage and plutocrats:

The DP wants to grant the vote to every felon, immigrant (whether illegal or legal, or naturalised or not), and even to dead people and ghouls who have long since shuffled off their mortal coil.

Why, I'd not be surprised if they tried to co-opt the vote of some dead babies savagely snuffed out, that is, murdered in cold blood by the abortionist's butcher knife 18 years ago inside their mother's wombs, if they could find a way to do so and not be caught at it.

Suffrage is a certainly a privilege and a right, within clearly defined parameters.

If anything, great pains should be taken to protect that suffrage, and to exclude those persons whose influence would certainly be injurious: namely, the destitute, the incarcerated criminal, dead people, traitors, foreigners, minor children, and perhaps and criminally immoral (sexual predators regardless of incarceration status) and mentally incapacitated persons whose disability clearly inhibits them from making an informed decision.

But to all of these and more will our Democratic-Plutocratic party extend the vote, that they would have eternal majority until the end of the Republic (which shall not slumber long, if God wills that we suffer the abject tyranny of an Obama presidency and a Congressional Democratic supermajority).

[jharp]

From the surrender monkeys at National Review Online.

Chess, Not Checkers [Jim Manzi]

"I’ve hesitated to do this post, partly because I think excessive conservative attention gets paid to short-term political horse race issues. But here’s something practical and urgent that I think everybody on the Right — from rabid Sarah Palin fans to Andrew Sullivan — should agree on: all available resources should be diverted from the McCain campaign to a handful of close Senate races."

Ain't looking to good, I'd say.

And mary, your link about Zimbabwe is laughably, utterly, off the charts, absurd.

[hdtv]

Almost everything McCain touches comes across as erratic. You can even paint him as a flip-flopper. Certainly the maverick slogan backfired. Mavericks, by definition are unstable an unpredictable. It also comes across as Hollywood-ish, stupid, and gimmicky.

Looks like McCain has pulled up some in national polls, but it doesn't looks like Obama has slipped since he seems to still be holding around 50. The electoral map appears unchanged for McCain, perhaps even leaning more Obama. I think leaners are committed and a few undecides are deciding. The race should close up to some extent. Some undecides will lean toward McCain, some will not.

It's a catch-22 for McCain. The race is more about GOP/Bush wrong track than anything else. McCain can't distance from Obama because in order to win, he has to be more like Obama. But, he can't do that with an 'R' next to his name. Move over to the left and lose base (recall the reaction to his mortgage scheme). If he moves to the right, he aligns more with Bush and loses the election.

[jaime]

Just TWO posts down YOU are actively pushing Ayers and now it's "I always knew it wouldn't work"

You did the exact same thing with Webb. Every other post was devoted to calling him a child molester because of that account in his novels, and when it was proven not to work, we got a post about "I always knew calling him a child molester wouldn't work"

You're a complete and utter fraud Riehl. When did you "tell us so?" You effing liar.

[jaime]

ACORN VOTE FRAUD PROOF HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/republican-voter-registration-chief-arrested-fraud-california/

THE GREATEST THREAT TO DEMOCRACY IN THE HISTORY OF EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mary]

jharp. Michelle Malkin is a respected journalist and she appears on television and on O'Reilly, the link is to an article on her site.

[mary]

"And mary, your link about Zimbabwe is laughably, utterly, off the charts, absurd.

Posted by: jharp | Monday, October 20, 2008 at 01:53 PM"

The link comes from Michelle Malkin's site. She is a respected journalist who has appeared on television and sometimes subs for O'Reilly.

[seekeronos]

I hate to dig on people personally, mainly because it isn't very civil.

But Jharp says something here that doesn't quite line up:

"--- When you work for yourself you can do whatever the hell you'd like whenever you like.

You ought to give it a try. It's a very nice life. Tues and Weds this week are golf for me.

It's the way winners live. ---"

We know from jharp's previous commentary here that he is in the import/export business, with a particular focus on Asian markets.

I know a few people who are involved with that line of work (granted, most are Taiwanese or PRC's who immigrated here sometime ago but keep connections with families and concerns in the Mainland... and it is a fairly capital-intensive line of work.

Now if we accept what jharp says on its face, he is likely a *very* wealthy individual, to be the CEO or board director (as well as outright owner), by my estimates, in the several millions to several dozen millions of dollars in gross income. On the lower side of that, if he is doing bulk distro of Chinese container ships full of furniture, he could be doing a distributed warehouse (i.e. he is a middleman with no real inventory), he's probably in the $500,000 to $1,5M range.

And as he and other trolls are fond of stating... it would seem as if he is "voting against his own interests" by supporting Obama and his message of socialism and wealth redistribution.

I have no idea what his balance sheet looks like, but given a decided slow-down in trade between Asia and the US in general, but if I might imagine myself in his place... I'd probably be a bit concerned about my business rather than trolling rightwing blogs for much of the day. In fact, I'd probably be deeply worried about the economy tanking, and about Obama's plans to savagely drain my income with higher taxes.

And unless he is independently wealthy like the Frosts (and is only doing import/export as a hobby, and isn't entirely reliant upon his business income)... then I can't really see how he has time for all of this plus golf and fishing or getting viciously hammered on cheap beer and "messing with the wingnuts" at RWV.

No, scratch that... the Frosts were well off, especially Grandpa Frost... but they weren't *stinking* rich. You'd have to be Warren Buffet rich, or Bill Gates rich, or George Soros rich, for the economic cycle and the oncoming depression not to have you wetting your pants with fear for how the retail market is going to completely be withered this season and worse beyond that.

And unless I am sorely mistaken... the demand end of the import/export business is rather dependent on people with disposable income... particularly young families and gay couples with quirky dogs looking to furnish their flats with lovely Chinese furniture: they just might grab something cheaper at IKEA instead of going for that "handcrafted" duvet from Fujian.

But, hey, I could be wrong. It has happened before, and I'm quite certain it may happen two or three more times in my life.

Anything's possible, ya know?

[ET]

--Tues and Weds this week are golf for me.

Well, since you are so self-satisfied despite being unable to make $250k per year after 25 years of trying, please say publically on this site that you will not take Barry's handout check that you qualify for.

You see, those of us who are running successful small businesses and actually contributing to the economy by employing people shouldn't have to underwrite your laziness.

so, harpomarxist, will you do the right thing and promise that you won't take the welfare? Or will you use it to tip your caddy?

[jharp]

"jharp. Michelle Malkin is a respected journalist and she appears on television and on O'Reilly, the link is to an article on her site."

Michelle Malkin is a right wing hack. As is O'Reilly. Anyone with half a brain can see the both ot them for the phonies they are.

A respected journalist. Not only is she not respected she's not a journalist.

And the Zimbabwe article is a perfect example.

[jharp]

seeker,

Since you asked. I am not particularly wealthy. I make a nice living and have plenty of free time.

And you are correct that deal mostly in trade with Asia.

And you are correct that business is getting tougher. However, there is always room at the top. I work with reliable suppliers, have reliable customers, am trusted, and do my homework. And we make very few mistakes (a huge problem for the newbies). It's just a matter of getting the right items at the right price at the right time. And 25 years experience gives me a pretty big edge.

[mary]

Lala, didn't I read something about the candidates being briefed about national security last week? Maybe this is Bidens reaction to that briefing?

[mary]

well j harp, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

It occurs to me that I have been reading this site so long that I remember when dan was on television. They should put him on again as regards the election, he is very well informed.

[Lala]

Mary,
People are saying that Biden is letting the cat out of the bag.

[mary]

"MCCAIN: Even in the most unexpected places, even in this room full of proud Manhattan Democrats.

I can't -- I can't shake that feeling that some people here are pulling for me."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/john_mccain_at_the_al_smith_di.html

[WilliamYork]

Biden will end up president if Obama is elected.

[Lala]

Suppose Biden's aneurysms explode. Then it will be Bela Pelosi.

[mary]

Lala, after her performances of late, that thought is revolting.

[seekeronos]

A year ago, I'd never thought I'd find myself thinking or saying (writing) this:

But I'm praying that God has mercy upon us and, and that His will is for McCain to win.

Coming 360 degrees on McCain leaves me both somewhat feeling dirty, but also relieved at the same time: we will have to walk this nation back from the edge of the Cliff of Socialist Doom one baby step at a time it seems.

[jaime]

"Suppose Biden's aneurysms explode. Then it will be Bela Pelosi."

If Biden dies, Obama appoints another vice president. You aren't even pro-American enough to know how your own country works.

Besides if 72 year old Cancer McGee dies, then the dolt becomes President, also. And either purposefully or through sheer stupidity, the nitwit from Alaska will bring on Armageddon, also. Of course seek will welcome that, also.

[chris]

The GOP base speaks out

http://tinyurl.com/3l22yc

They really need to put a fence around those red states - not because we're 'afeared' of them - so they can charge admission. Priceless

lol

[jaime]

"His will is for McCain to win."

And when God's will elects Obama, you will surely know that Jesus Christ hates you and that you're going to hell.

That, or maybe the White Man in the Sky doesn't give a shit about American politics.

[Lala]

I was assuming Obama gets impeached.