Bill Clinton went from being thought of as the first black President to actually being accused of racism. Among others, McCain has now faced that charge, as well.
Stanley Kurtz and David Fredossa went from being serious journalists and solid researchers to being portrayed as perpetrators of hate and loathsome smear merchants.
Sarah Palin, no matter what you may think of her, went from being the nation's most popular governor to being thought of as a mindless boob now parenting a fifth child they won't even accept as her own.
Now, via Michelle, the NY Times felt compelled to weigh in on a would be plumber. It's truly sickening to see that just about every on line MSM news site is reveling in taking that man down. Just scroll.
Meanwhile, Obama's treasurer - with his own tax liens, it seems - Bill Ayres, Franklin Raines, Jeremiah Wright, James Johnson - Obama himself and others ... are all just fine ethical, upstanding Americans undeserving of any real scrutiny, I guess.
The people above were taken down by Obama supporters in and out of the MSM, his actual campaign, or some combination thereof.
The O-body count is growing and the Left and Obama haven't really even achieved any power of the executive kind so far. Everyone who has gotten in the way of Obama's path to power has been horribly run down. It's also obvious that they would happily destroy them if they could.
If you needed one single reason to vigorously oppose Obama and energetically support McCain, this might be it.
According to this I'm not alone in thinking that.
And yet, for that Joe is being pilloried, every aspect of his private and professional life being sorted through and exposed. To prove ... what? What does that have to do with Obama's answer? What does Joe's situation have to do with Obama's philosophical answer — that he wants to "spread the wealth"? Obama's answer goes down the memory hole while the nation concentrates its fire on obliterating Joe the Plumber.
It's sickening, it's maddening and it's downright chilling.
Sorry for the length. But I am just SEETHING.
And if all that isn't enough - how about simply giving the Netroots and Keith Olbermann a truly, truly horrible day.


Fred,
"Now we are gonna say a thank you to the President of the United States. Do you know why?
Because you troopers have blamed him for the rise in oil and gas prices. If he is to blame for that then he should get the credit for the price fall. Let's hear it.
THANK YOU MR PRESIDENT."
Yeah, and all it took was a complete financial meltdown. A trillion dollar taxpayer bailout. And a 40% drop in the Dow.
Heckuva job!
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 11:56 AM
LINK PLEASE: "Bush got 10% of the black vote in 2000 and 12% in 2004."
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM
His Eminence did not appreciate the comment Lala. But then again, haven't you noticed that the guy is smooth amidst the crowd but very unpolished in social situations. After that remark, which my uber Catholic friend calls "a real slap at Catholic theology, which when you are a guest, was plainly unacceptable." she writes "this is why you have to worry if he will say the wrong thing to Russia and China and before you know it, there is trouble"
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Since you said PLEASE
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/results/index.president.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
Posted by: chris | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Nice way of mangling my statement, Fred. Since any idiot can read what I actually said on this comment thread and know that I wasn't relating Ayers to racism, you should feel pretty embarrassed. But I know you don't, because only people with a couple brain cells to rub together are capable of feeling humility.
Posted by: tas | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Two comments on the dinner. 1. I thought it was very disingenuous of BO to bring up Russert. That was transparent to everyone as he really didn't know Russert like those people in the media and other politicians. Essentially, he was saying. "look at me, I'm part of the group".
2. It was not the venue to follow O'Reilly's advice and tell the common man you are angry and understand. He did. He violated the spirit of the evening showing that what is important to him is the election and einning and not anything else.
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:13 PM
http://206.190.36.224/ya/securedownload?mid=1_22_2_1839529_0_ANMkvs4AAIabSPiaAAQpG32IL%2Bc&fid=%40S%40Search&pid=2&clean=0&inline=1&cred=CHoM6BkUDpk4AR1QWR9_a.3Rb3OWZLG9XX77Gyqmdbiq6giyurKkQjPbVVmJL5o13pIJ.NkDYH6dsUu1nAF9tT2tsPsfYMzXx4gg2B4uRGo-&ts=1224259874&partner=ymail&sig=krrbRiLCorXzClKWBShkAQ--
I took the above photo last summer in Nice France. It says a Basque Beret cost 30 euro. And here is the other pic of the same smiling face.
http://206.190.36.224/ya/securedownload?mid=1_22_2_1839529_0_ANMkvs4AAIabSPiaAAQpG32IL%2Bc&fid=%40S%40Search&pid=3&clean=0&inline=1&cred=P4oKNeXZDpng0ra15c81VbxNWeCQY0aIybDRttaRbX8_X96p8EZzeCrs5E4VEO8uN_BNPgoXibaCrs8ejQO46YL.pGvDk9wjxGIWg0K81lY-&ts=1224260079&partner=ymail&sig=Kl2DXBPMVnnLKuJX5oy8yg--
Posted by: joeb | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM
mary, you've had about 40 comments on the dinner. Check that - 42.
Posted by: chris | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Sorry the links to the above photos don't seem to work. I will try and figure it out.
Posted by: joeb | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:17 PM
chris: "Bush got 10% of the black vote in 2000 and 12% in 2004."
Link please.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Price of gas in 2001 when Bush enters office: around $1.50 a gallon
Average price of gas today: around $3.00 a gallon. And that's after a huge price drop largely due to reduced consumption - folks quit driving because they couldn't afford the gas, and the economic collapse.
If you think destroying the economy is a great way to lower gas prices, maybe George W(orst) Bush does deserve some credit.
Posted by: Worst President Ever | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Fred, you are living proof that mental acuity declines with age. Yet another reason not to vote for McSame btw.
Look up for the link, Fred. Sheesh.
Posted by: chris | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:25 PM
"speaking of being 'unlicensed'...
obama has repeatedly said he practiced law.
did he ever pass the bar exam?
Posted by: mark l. | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 11:30 AM"
Great question mark. Hmmm worked at a summer at 1 place, 1 summer only then as a summer at a different place. Then usually they hire their 3rd years. Did he go on to big law?
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I'm really getting annoyed by the BO campaign against those who are older. I thought it was just here on this board but then BO made that comment last night so I guess it is one of the main talking points. I'm telling you, to that BO, old people are "useless eaters" and "annoying", what does BO have in store for you when you get OLD?
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Harpo babbles: "Yeah, and all it took was a complete financial meltdown. A trillion dollar taxpayer bailout. And a 40% drop in the Dow."
A few thoughts for you, Harpo, free of charge. (1)Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and muchos Democraticos agreed with the bailout and tried to stuff it with puerco, verdad?. I didn't agree with it. (2)"A complete financial meltdown"???? No, Harpo, a correction to the loan market caused by the Congress's pressures on banks to grant housing loans to financially unworthy applicants (a practice that will continue and grow if a Dem Congress gets a Dem President). (3) Buy, Harpo, buy. Sell high. Buy low. (4) Oil and gas price levels depend on supply, demand, and taxes, you poor benighted sod.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM
"Altough Robin Hood didn't steal from the rich; he stole from the Church and the government."
In his day they were one and the same. Heck, they still are.
Posted by: Spartan112 | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:39 PM
GOP voter suppression effort fails in Ohio
High court rejects GOP bid in Ohio voting dispute
The Supreme Court sided Friday with Ohio's top elections official(a democrat) in a dispute with the state Republican Party over voter registrations.
How sweet it that!
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Speaking of buying, since the US government is experiencing a lovely sale on oil, I hope they are buying.
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Wasn't that the circuit court? Doesn't it go to the supremes now?
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Have to say this:
I'm really upset that Linens N things is throwing in the towel.
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:45 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9815785@N06/2948992239/
Interesting picture. I took this picture in Nice,France in the marketplace last summer. It said the Basque beret cost 30 euro. Look on page 2 of my flickr photostream to see the other image of this picture.
Posted by: joeb | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:47 PM
(1)Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and muchos Democraticos agreed with the bailout and tried to stuff it with puerco, verdad?. I didn't agree with it.
So why didn't your hero, W, veto it?
(2)"A complete financial meltdown"???? No, Harpo, a correction to the loan market caused by the Congress's pressures on banks to grant housing loans to financially unworthy applicants
You are an imbecile if you believe this.
(3) Buy, Harpo, buy. Sell high. Buy low.
I just stay out period.
(4) Oil and gas price levels depend on supply, demand, and taxes, you poor benighted sod.
You actually have a point here. You are right that demand is down dramatically as people have no money to buy gas.
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:48 PM
chris, no wonder I couldn't find your source. You wrote: "...Bush got 10% of the black vote in 2000 and 12% in 2004. So this additional 7% from 11% of the voters (at least in 2004) is why BO is ahead?"
Your second link gives only poll numbers, not actual results as implied by your words. I couldn't get any info on race at all from your first link.
I do appreciate your efforts, however, you wascally wabbit.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Okay everybody get ready to breathe less -
Obama to Declare Carbon Dioxide Dangerous Pollutant (Update1)
By Jim Efstathiou Jr.
Enlarge Image/Details
Oct. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Barack Obama will classify carbon dioxide as a dangerous pollutant that can be regulated should he win the presidential election on Nov. 4, opening the way for new rules on greenhouse gas emissions.
Posted by: Lala | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Have to say this:
I'm really upset that Linens N things is throwing in the towel.
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Why would that be? The invisible hand of the free market has spoken.
That's know as progress.
They were miserable failures.
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:51 PM
harpo-
any chance you could use your well placed sources that confirmed joe had no license, to confirm obama passed the bar/had a law license?
Posted by: mark l. | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Ugh, you are sooo tiresome, Fred. Click on the exit poll info.
Posted by: chris | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Wasn't that the circuit court? Doesn't it go to the supremes now?
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:44 PM
No. It was the Supreme Court that made the ruling.
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:54 PM
any chance you could use your well placed sources that confirmed joe had no license, to confirm obama passed the bar/had a law license?
Posted by: mark l. | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:52 PM
No. No chance at all. If you'd like to know try the google.
And I have no well placed sources.
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 12:56 PM
so basically, what you are saying is that Obama is as big a 'fraud' as Joe.
thanks for the confirmation.
Posted by: mark l. | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:00 PM
Wow, when it goes that fast, my dad would say "the fix is in"
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:01 PM
I think your dad also would say "what is wrong with that girl??"
Posted by: chris | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:03 PM
so basically, what you are saying is that Obama is as big a 'fraud' as Joe.
thanks for the confirmation.
Posted by: mark l. | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:00 PM
No, mark, you buffoon. What I am saying is if you'd like to know look it up yourself.
Jackass.
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:08 PM
"So why didn't your hero, W, veto it?"
If by my hero you mean the President, I guess he didn't veto it because he agreed with Paulson and the Dems. It would be more accurate to describe Bush as my preferred choice for two terms. Heroes are buried in military cemeteries around the world along with the unskilled and the unlucky.
"You are an imbecile if you believe this." This is a logical fallacy, Harpo, commonly called arguing in a circle, as well as an argumentum ad hominem. It carries no weight. It is as light as a feather, as much a lightweight as...well, as you.
"I just stay out period." A wise policy, a wise policy. Not a profitable one; however, it quite suits you.
"You are right that demand is down dramatically as people have no money to buy gas." This is quite odd, Harpo. No relative, no friend, no acquaintance of mine is in this fix. I feel bad for the Indianaians. Give us your address. I'm sure several here would help you in your plight. Honk, honk.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:09 PM
"So why didn't your hero, W, veto it?"
If by my hero you mean the President, I guess he didn't veto it because he agreed with Paulson and the Dems.
And McCain voted for it too. What say you about that?
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:21 PM
I wonder if any of our leftist friends could tell us what Soejams license or lack thereof or any other elements in the personal attacks upon Soejam have to do with the fact that Obama wants to redistribute income in a quest for fairness based for some reason on the $250,000 per annum level. By the way does he plan to annex this amount to inflation?
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:23 PM
"You are right that demand is down dramatically as people have no money to buy gas." This is quite odd, Harpo. No relative, no friend, no acquaintance of mine is in this fix.
Nor are any of mine.
However, Fred, there are 300 million people in the U.S. and you and are friends, relatives, or acquaintences of several hundred.
I see that in addition to failing civics class you are completely clueless about statistical sampling methodology.
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:25 PM
"What I am saying is if you'd like to know look it up yourself."
why would I look up something that doesn't exist?
Posted by: mark l. | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:25 PM
"And McCain voted for it too. What say you about that?"
I have said I opposed it. I lost. There are many other things I disagree with McCain on. That's all I have to say about it. Are you really flat broke? Let us help you.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:26 PM
Harpo say: "I see that in addition to failing civics class you are completely clueless about statistical sampling methodology."
Oh? So your statement "...people have no money to buy gas." is based on "statistical sampling methodology". Hahahahaha. Well why didn't you say so?
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:31 PM
So your statement "...people have no money to buy gas." is based on "statistical sampling methodology".
No my statement "people have no money to buy gas is based on the economic crises we are in. Why do suppose demand is down so dramatically?
Your repudiation of my statement with "No relative, no friend, no acquaintance of mine is in this fix." was idiotic.
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:42 PM
"Are you really flat broke? Let us help you."
No, not at all. I'm doing just fine, thank you.
Posted by: jharp | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:43 PM
Consumption of all petroleum products has fallen in 2008, driven down by the increase in prices and the weakening economy. Motor gasoline and distillate fuel lead the way with projected average declines of about 200,000 bbl/d for each fuel compared with last year. The declines in consumption are expected to continue in 2009 but at a much lower rate. Total domestic petroleum consumption is projected to average 19.8 million bbl/d in 2008, down 830,000 bbl/d from the 2007 average (U.S. Petroleum Products Consumption Growth), followed by a further 100,000-bbl/d decline in 2009.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/steo
Posted by: Worst President Ever | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:46 PM
"why would I look up something that doesn't exist?"
Here you go, genius. Try not to move your lips when reading it.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/02/20/obama_got_start_in_civil_rights_practice/
Joe the 'plumber' is starting to look smart.
Posted by: chris | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 01:48 PM
So, did he pass the Massachusetts bar? the Illinois bar?
If he did, his name would be listed under the state bar results for the year he took the bar.
Just skimmed your article but the time frame seems off to me.
How long was he at the firm? You can be part of a "team of lawyers" and "go to trial" and not have passed the bar.
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 02:26 PM
BTW, if you didn't pass the bar in the state, there would be no complaints against "lawyer Obama". I find it curious that they word it that way. Makes you wonder what complaints there are against the guy and where they are?
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Essentially, what people would like to see is absolute proof that the guy passed the bar somewhere.
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 02:28 PM
You may recall JFK, jr. failed the bar 5 times so he started a magazine. In order to teach constitutional law you don't need to have passed the bar.
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 02:29 PM
I can see why you people like that brain dead Sarah Palin
"Obama agreed to work for the firm in summer when the legislature was out of session. His law license became inactive in 2002 as politics took over."
Posted by: chris | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 02:30 PM
A Juris Doctor degree is different than passing the bar. Some with the degree never even take the bar exam as they do not plan to practice law.
Posted by: mary | Friday, October 17, 2008 at 02:31 PM