Ohio Official Who Searched Plumber's Records Hearts Obama

Update: You'll see at the link Ace offers their defense. A defense about searching records of lottery winners being proof of a normal protocol. Thats BS. They do that as there is money involved and the state can step in and grab an overdue child support payment. I suspect that's a formal policy, not done just because someone is in the news.

Ace asks the question:

PS, the tip here (which I'm still looking for evidence on) is that Helen Jones-Kelly just happens to be a supporter of Barack Obama.

Well, this just might be a clue:

DAYTON — Some say Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is an exception to a stereotype about black male success.

 But Parity Inc. co-chairwoman Helen Jones-Kelly said the senator from Illinois is just one example of a strong African American male leader.

"We have outstanding African American men – men of color – throughout this country," she said.

Parity Inc., an organization dedicated to fostering racial equality, hosted the 17th annual program at Sinclair Community College's David H. Ponitz Center.

 

Comments

[moldy]

Dan, I think it's likely she did the search because she is an Obama supporter. This says something about her. Are you infering it says something about the Democratic party? About Obama?

Moldy

[mark l.]

funny how the polls in pa and oh don't budge,
even when you look at murtha's rants, and ohio-acorn/sec of state/joe/ joe's record search...

even if it didn't budge the polls, it should play into turnout, which pollsters don't seem to address.

maybe they should start asking how pissed off are you as a voter?

trust me, if the dividends aren't evident now, they will be by nov 4.

50-45...at present
even with the modest lead, 88% turnout among mccain supporters, versus 79% turnout for obama, assuming the polls are correct, and mccain wins the popular. Who am I to argue with the logic or weighting a sample towards minorities and youth voters...they strike me as such fine and responsible people.

I'm really curious about the mcain democrats...
not really worried about any obama republicans.
.

[mary]

" But Parity Inc. co-chairwoman Helen Jones-Kelly said the senator from Illinois is just one example of a strong African American male leader."

I am so sick of this. The guy is not 100% African American. He is 50% Ordinary White Male.

To me, if you want to say someone is "a strong African American male leader"
you are talking about Martin Luther King.

Not BO

[WBestPresidentEver]

It want be too long before we want be able to blog and say what we think.
Everything we say or do will be monitored and you will see cars parked outside your home watching your every move. You will be a treat to the New Messiah.

America will not be a free country anymore if "that one" is elected.

People will turn to other means and I don't think it will be pretty if their free speech is taken away. SAD BUT TRUE !

[Bilby]

moldy, it says something about the whole state apparatus (Dems) and their relationship to the Obama campaign.
http://tinyurl.com/66zzdg

BTW, Ms Jones-Kelly contributed $2500 to Obama at the end of July.

[Bilby]

This is precious:

"Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland is satisfied that there are no political overtures to the check on Wurzelbacher, a spokesman said.

"Based on what we know to this point, we don't have any reason to believe the information was improperly accessed or disclosed by a state employee," said Keith Dailey, Strickland's press secretary."

[Lala]

In New York it is a crime for police officers to run a plate as a favor for a friend or for any reason other than checking for possible criminality.

[mary]

Just read a very funny comment on another blog.

The person, who appeared to possibly be an attorney, said that Joe the Plumber should sue the state for violating the privacy laws and then use his monetary award to buy the plumbing business.

[Gilbert Formoso]

I saw a funny joke on another blog too!

http://www.rantsnraves.org/showthread.php?p=444542

[befair]

Are you saying that if an individual has collected on a state program or that if monies were paid out for their benefit or that of their family that the state should not be able to get those monies back? It was common practice to run names against lottery winners, etc. to check to see if anyone who was/is on the roles paid back the money they owed. What do you think happens to the home of the spouse who is able to stay in it when the person on medicade dies and that spouse passes on? Should it be in his/her estate or paid back to the entity who had been supporing it, the spouse, and the individual for perhaps many, many years.

[Befair]

I am so sick of this. The guy is not 100% African American. He is 50% Ordinary White Male.

To me, if you want to say someone is "a strong African American male leader"
you are talking about Martin Luther King.

Not BO

Posted by: mary | Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 12:31 AM

I so agree Mary. However, an individual can consider themselves to be anything they want to be according to the law.

[Philip McDaniel]

befair:
???
Actually, the only right a state lottery has is to verify the ticket and then pay out the money. If an individual owes money to the state, another individual or entity then that is his obligation to pay. In a democratic and free society, the state's only recourse is through legal means if funds are owed it and the same is true of individuals or entities. I do not know what the laws in Ohio say about this but I seriously question the actions of Ms Jones-Kelly. Is the State of Ohio saying that it has the right to investigate any person, any time, at their discretion? Can they tap phones as well? I thought Democrats were tremendously concerned with any violations of civil rights. I guess only with those of fellow travelers.

[mary]

I am starting to see that the democrats do what is best for the democrats. When it comes to advancing their agenda then it is okay to break any and all rules. when it comes to the republicns, it is never okay. A little hypocritical if you ask me and concerning.

Look at this alleged million dollar special:

"The Obama campaign purchased a half hour of airtime on NBC, Fox and CBS, spending about $1 million per network."

"One source said ABC offered the airtime, but the Obama campaign, for whatever reason, declined to buy an ad."

http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/10/abc-will-air-da.html

It is totally obscene to spend this money on BO. Totally obscene. They are a bunch of hypocrites. With three million dollars, they could buy how many homes saving them from foreclosure? With three million dollars they could feed how many hungry people?

Also, maybe the first network to be on the campaign's "sheet list" is ABC. What did they do? Did we miss something?

[befair]

Philip - I did not mean that the lottery checks, but there used to be anyhow in my state an agency whose purpose was to get money back for the state from people who owed it. In my example of a spouse being allowed to retain the family home during his/her lifetime, a lien is put on the property as soon as the state starts paying on benefits. I don't know by what right Ms Jones-Kelly in Ohio did her research, but it surely does seem suspicious. Being neither Democrat or Republican I can only speak as an unaffiliated voter - and I personally am very concerned with violations of civil rights of EVERYONE.

[Philip McDaniel]

befair:
Your comments are clearer now. I agree by the way -- I think the same holds true here in Florida regarding a state agency but I am honestly not sure.
Thanks for the clarification.

[Spartan112]

Mary if they used campaign money to house or feed the poor you'd be on here screaming about how they were trying to buy votes.

[JustOneMan]

Not just a minor supporter, either. Helen Jones-Kelly is the director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services and has maxed out ($2,300) to Barack Obama’s campaign.

[mary]

"Mary if they used campaign money to house or feed the poor you'd be on here screaming about how they were trying to buy votes.

Posted by: Spartan112 | Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM"

Spartan, spending that kind of money on oneself is very concerning, almost a red flag. If someone thought the guy would be fiscally responsible, they now know that he clearly plans to spend and spend and spend and tax and tax and tax.

[whiteandblackmixed]

"I am so sick of this. The guy is not 100% African American. He is 50% Ordinary White Male."

There are no pure 100% African Americans, not even Dr Martin Luther King, Jr. If that were the case, everyone would be as black as tar paper with very prominent negroid features. "Pure" Africans were brought to these shores as slaves but the slave masters infiltrated the race by raping and having their way with the slave women. Slave ownership had its priviledges. That fact is so well documented in history. Back then, if you had an ounce of Negro blood, you were deemed "Negro" and thus could never term yourself bi-racial or anything else. The terms bi-racial and such only came into existence after white women were free to mate with the black man without the black man paying a steep price, usually his life. Since she (the white woman) wanted a better designation for her offspring, the term bi-racial became common. Therefore, no matter Obama's racial make up, his skin tone says black, negro, African-American That is what people see first. That is how Senator Obama is known, and that is simply how the world works for now.

[mary]

Earthquake Details
Magnitude 5.2
Date-Time

* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 14:30:09 UTC
* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 06:30:09 AM at epicenter

Location 66.661°N, 158.279°W
Depth 0.2 km (~0.1 mile) (poorly constrained)
Region NORTHERN ALASKA
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* 56 km (35 miles) WSW (244°) from Shungnak, AK
* 67 km (41 miles) WSW (245°) from Kobuk, AK
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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/ak00074739.php

[Spartan112]

Spartan, spending that kind of money on oneself is very concerning, almost a red flag. If someone thought the guy would be fiscally responsible, they now know that he clearly plans to spend and spend and spend and tax and tax and tax.

Posted by: mary | Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Shut up Mary...it's a presidential campaign, they spend what they receive in donations. McCain is doing the same thing he just hasn't brought in as much money. If you were so concerned about how much money they spend on themselves would you be more worried about Palin's 20k for makeup? or McCain's 7-9 homes?

[mary]

I know the earthquake post is way off topic but look at the location, oh this will make the day of the conspiracy people and the psychics. lol

[Spartan112]

* This is a computer-generated message -- this event has not yet been reviewed by a seismologist.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/ak00074739.php

Posted by: mary | Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 10:51 AM

This is God's answer to Palin and Stevens.

[jharp]

There is only one race.

The human race. Look it up.

[Lala]

Mary,
Spartan says "shut up". Shades of things to come if you-know-who gets elected.

[mary]

spartan, McCain took the federal money. BO reneged on his signed agreement to take the money and raised it on his own and I'm reading all over the internet that his contributions are suspect. Seriously, gotta have a brass set to do what he is doing. If he can't keep his word and signed agreements why should the american people think that he will keep any of his promises to them? If a person shows ahead of time their lack of judgment and integrity then people are forewarned and forearmed.

[Spartan112]

You're right Lala, people at McCain Palin rallies are so measured.

[Spartan112]

Obama never made the promise you are referring to. In fact this is a direct quote from him written on the "piece of paper" you are referring to.

“If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”

Their lawyers had meetings which were not fruitful according to the Obama campaign and Obama when with private financing while McCain took public money and further put a drain on our economy. So much for personal responsibility.

[anon]

Obama isn't going to keep most of his campaign promises, that is a given. His crazy supporters don't care and most of them won't care....they already feel guilty for not being on welfare.

He is going to be the mirror image of George Bush: radical, imperial and oblivious to oblivious flaws and failures of his policy. The only difference between Obama and Bush is that one is a conservative radical idealogue nut job and the other is a liberal radical idealogue nut job. They will both show the same disdain for the rule of law and precedent.

[LOL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9T0FI2axbU

[mary]

"Obama ranked as one of the biggest financial winners, with his net worth increasing from $800,000 in 2006 to $4.7 million last year"
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/54838.html

Seems like SO managed to do pretty well for himself during the GWB administration.

[jharp]

Hey mark l,

Please run these through your statistics analyzer.

"Barack Obama leads John McCain by a 52% to 36% margin in Pew’s latest nationwide survey of 1,325 registered voters.

When the sample is narrowed to those most likely to vote, Obama leads by 53% to 38%."

[mary]

"Asked about his Election Day plans, Lee let this drop . . .

LEE: Even though I live in Manhattan, I still vote out of Brooklyn, so I'm going, November 4th I'll be the first in line in Brooklyn then I'm going to LaGuardia to take the United flight to Chicago. I'll be in Chicago all day."
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/10/28/spike-lee-obama-pre-deortained#comments

I don't trust the voting process this year at all. I mean, the way things have been going it is conceivable for this guy to be voting in Manhattan, then hopping on a train and voting in Brooklyn and then hopping on a plane and voting in Chicago. I'm not saying he is doing this, I'm just saying the thought occurred to me that this may be possible for anyone to do. Is there a way to cross check and make sure that anyone isn't voting more than once in more than one place?

[mary]

"Sarkozy Views Obama's Stance on Iran 'Utterly Immature,' Media Mum
By Noel Sheppard | October 28, 2008 - 11:26"
http://newsbusters.org/

"France's Nicolas Sarkozy views Barack Obama's political stance toward Iran "utterly immature" and made up of "formulations empty of all content."

The guy said you can't find it with a google search. Are you surprised? Google is in the tank for BO as is yahoo. the hillary supporters report that in the primaries many bloggers disappeared from the internet during that very important time. They attribute it to something being done deliberately to silence them and they are warning on their sites that this will happen again.

[valerie]

this is against everything American...she should be fired...she researched him several times and then made public the information....heck what is going to happen when the leftist righteous hatefilled left get in white house and get everyones information...we should all be afraid...seriously afraid.

[Spartan112]

You're not saying he's doing it...but you're implying it.

[Spartan112]

Can't find it with a google search? Type in Sarkozy Obama and this is the first on the list.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031943.html

You spend too much time believing what rightwingers tell you to believe Mary.

I heard Hannity said Obama is secretly the head of a Neo-Nazi group and planned this whole assassination thing to boost his election chances.

[LogicalUS]

What she did was illegal?

All this nonsense about routinely checking lottery winnings is typical Democrats lies. A formal request is processed thru government channels to the various agencies which would allow such an invasion of a citizen's privacy.

Someone was fired at the Department of State for checking the passport files of McCain, Clinton and Obama's, but an average citizen ask a simple question of Obama the Unquestionable, which makes him look like the imbecile he is, and his supporters with government power within hours start combing thru this man's private information to destroy him. She should be fired.

jharp, spartan and the other obama brownshirts are happy as a lark. The man questioned Obama and should have known better, he got what he deserved. I bet in the near future morons jharp and his fellow Obama Youths will be turning their neighbors in to the local office of Obama's "civilian national security force" for voicing disagreement with the "O-Fuerher".

Come back to us, jharp when those Acorn registered voters vanish before your eyes and McCain\Palin are sworn in as the next leaders of this country. Only a moron would use registered voters polls to prove a point. No wonder you loooove Obama.

[mary]

"this is against everything American...she should be fired...she researched him several times and then made public the information....heck what is going to happen when the leftist righteous hatefilled left get in white house and get everyones information...we should all be afraid...seriously afraid.

Posted by: valerie | Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 11:36 AM"

Well they are showing you. Heck, in order to redistribute the income etc. they have to know what you have silly, so they have to look you up. Then they will know to make sure they have all your property so they can then give it to someone else as a reward for being a sympathizer with the state.

A friend said today that he is glad he registered as an independent as they will probably destroy the registered republicans and the conservatives first. He said it with a straight face. It wasn't funny.

[mary]

spartan, I'm reading on a lot of hillary sites. They are hillary democrats not right wingers at all.

[Spartan112]

"A friend said today that he is glad he registered as an independent as they will probably destroy the registered republicans and the conservatives first. He said it with a straight face. It wasn't funny."

Mary how did you and your friends get so stupid? Do you live near a chemical factory? Here's a tip: don't drink the tap water.

[Anon]

It is typical liberal hypocrisy to decry the loss of privacy and civil liberties under Bush and then go on to pooh pooh something like an Obama supporter using their office to dig up dirt on a private citizen and then make it public...this is no big deal.

Where are the screaming headlines about abuse of office? Oh I forgot,that only goes for Sarah Palin trying to get her dirt bag ex brother in law fired because he's a psycho.

[Spartan112]

spartan, I'm reading on a lot of hillary sites. They are hillary democrats not right wingers at all.

Posted by: mary | Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Oh, well I guess that's ok. They have no ax to grind.

[Lala]

Anon,
Did you see this?

Alaskan Legislator Tells Maddow: 'What Good Does It Do' to Fire a 'Dangerous' Cop?

By Jack Coleman
October 27, 2008 - 16:01 E

An unintentionally hilarious assertion was made by Alaska State Senator Hollis French on Rachel Maddow's MSNBC cable show Friday night.

Maddow and French were discussing the so-called Troopergate scandal and Gov. Sarah Palin's alleged grudge in firing former Alaska public safety commissioner Walt Monegan for not reopening an investigation of a state trooper who went through a nasty divorce with Palin's sister.

Hollis, a Democrat who led the state legislature's investigation into Palin's actions in firing Monegan last July, cited "severe logical fallacies" in claims made by Palin and her husband Todd, including the Palins' request for reduced security despite their assertions that Wooten was a rogue cop.

Then came the coup de grace from French:

Stop and think about, what good does it do to fire a trooper if you really think he's dangerous?

Yes -- the man actually uttered those words ... loud enough to hear ... on national television. The mind reels when confronted with such a worldview. Could be worse, however. If French were wearing a badge, for example.
read more at the link

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2008/10/27/alaskan-legislator-tells-maddow-what-good-does-it-do-fire-dangerous-co

[mary]

"I heard Hannity said Obama is secretly the head of a Neo-Nazi group and planned this whole assassination thing to boost his election chances.

Posted by: Spartan112 | Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 11:48 AM"

I seriously cannot stand Sean Hannity but, in this case, he is probably right. A lot of people are saying that so it isn't really an original idea. Just like a lot of people are saying the girl with the "B" on her face was also not from the republican side.

Well, the way the campaign has been run, lots of smoke and mirrors, of course now there will be dirty tricks. It is the dirty tricks after he is elected that concern me though.

I am undecided still but BO isn't making me want to vote for him at all. Don't care for McCain much. I seriously might not vote at all. I've voted in every election since I was eligible to vote even the little ones so this would be major for me.

[Lala]

Taxes, taxes, taxes

October 27, 2008
Senator Obama's Four Tax Increases for People Earning Under $250k
By Ned Barnett
I confess. Senator Obama's two tax promises: to limit tax increases to only those making over $250,000 a year, and to not raise taxes on 95% of "working Americans," intrigued me. As a hard-working small business owner, over the past ten years I've earned from $50,000 to $100,000 per year. If Senator Obama is shooting straight with us, under his presidency I could look forward to paying no additional Federal taxes -- I might even get a break -- and as I struggle to support a family and pay for two boys in college, a reliable tax freeze is nearly as welcome as further tax cuts.

However, Senator Obama's dual claims seemed implausible, especially when it came to my Federal income taxes. Those implausible promises made me look at what I'd been paying before President Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, as well as what I paid after those tax cuts became law. I chose the 2000 tax tables as my baseline -- they reflect the tax rates that Senator Obama will restore by letting the "Bush Tax Cuts" lapse. I wanted to see what that meant from my tax bill.

long article - read more at
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/senator_obamas_four_tax_increa.html

[anon]

Mary,

Why not vote for Bob Barr? That way you exercise your right to vote and express displeasure at the two lame choices: a closet radical socialist vs. a very old guy with some serious impulse control issues.

[Lala]

10,000 votes? Who manufactures Sequoia?

Problems with Sequoia voting equipment not limited to Palm Beach County

October 28, 2008

Sequoia's struggles
Sequoia Voting Systems' problems haven't been limited to Palm Beach County.

In Indian River County's primary, election officials didn't realize for two days that more than 10,000 extra votes had been cast, possibly because of an incomplete test of that county's vote transmitting system.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-flpsequoiabox1028pnoct28,0,4636193.story?track=rss

[valerie]

"this is against everything American...she should be fired...she researched him several times and then made public the information....heck what is going to happen when the leftist righteous hatefilled left get in white house and get everyones information...we should all be afraid...seriously afraid.

Posted by: valerie | Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 11:36 AM"

Well they are showing you. Heck, in order to redistribute the income etc. they have to know what you have silly, so they have to look you up. Then they will know to make sure they have all your property so they can then give it to someone else as a reward for being a sympathizer with the state.

A friend said today that he is glad he registered as an independent as they will probably destroy the registered republicans and the conservatives first. He said it with a straight face. It wasn't funny.

I do like Barr but to vote for Barr is a vote for Obama at this point.....how can America be so blind...but then William Ayers tells his crew to go after the children...and this he has done.

[jharp]

Only a moron would use registered voters polls to prove a point. No wonder you loooove Obama.

Posted by: LogicalUS | Tuesday, October 28, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Is this better, jackass.

PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Friday through Sunday finds Barack Obama with a five percentage point lead over John McCain, 50% to 45%, in the presidential preferences of likely voters using Gallup's traditional model. He enjoys a more ample 10-point lead, 53% to 43%, using Gallup's expanded model.