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He cares more about health care for everyone else than John McCain and the republicans.

What is it that mothers tell their daughters "how he treats his mother is how he will treat you".

Maybe this explains why MO has essentially disappeared from the campaign and, if he could, so would Joe the Senator.

Such a sad, bitter attack. Let's see. BO was teaching Con Law at U of C in 1994 as well as holding down a full time job as an attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Chicago-Honolulu is 8 hours. Things happen, patriot.

Oh and mary - you need to get out. Really. Your mother should have told you that.

Michelle the angry black woman will suddenly be front and center should Obama win. And it will be very scary.

yeah right guys - a long weekend is certainly too much to spare where your dying Mother is concerned. I guess liberal hearts really are black.

Mary,
That's the truth. The best men are the men who treat their mothers well. I've seen it over and over again.

Well done Dan. Obama uses every person in his life and edits every event to support the bogus ideas he is selling -- namely, govt and govt handouts are the solutions to all problems. He took Granny Dunham's biography of hard work/achievement/advancement and gutted it; instead highlighting the food stamps and scholarships as his ticket to success. And he created a useful "narrative" about Mom, designed to terrify people into backing nationalized health care. Sadly, the truth is, Barack didn't care much (and shouldn't have) about his itinerant/radical mother. She all but abandoned the child and he barely saw her during the last two decades of her life. The fact that he "missed" her final suffering and death was I believe, by design.

The man is 100% polyester. Every aspect of his life has been shaped and scripted or hijacked from others with far more interesting lives and superior intellect -- though also highly dangerous sociopaths... Davis, Ayers, Klonsky, et al.

I have heard the Senator recount this story more than once and as recently as this Monday here in Orlando. Apparently, Obama likes to watch. I am baffled at how all of his wranglers listen to this story over and over again without pulling him aside and telling him that, in some neighborhoods, treating your dying mother like that is considered poor form.

Is this all you have left? Attacking a man about his mother's death. You have no idea about the relationship that Obama had with his mother or the reasons why he didn't go see her. It's something that he obviously regrets and made sure he didn't make the same mistake with his grandmother.

Sallyvee, if you really think that Obama didn't go see his mother on purpose to further his political career, then you need to get some help. Take off the tinfoil hat and realize that not everything is a conspiracy or planned.

MJ:
Why do you think Obama didnt go see his mom when she died?
Its inexcusable. Unless he didnt consider her to be his mother; then it would make some sense; however in that case its despicable that he is using her dying to further his own political agenda. He's caught on this one.

Hussein the lawyer let his dying mother deal with the insurance companies. The American health care is the worst except all others in the world. It might even be fun watching the crazy liberals when medical care is denied for their family and assisted suicide is offered to middle aged people. Try the socialist medical system in Oregon. Treatment cost more than assisted suicide, guess what the liberals offer you. Take it or leave the state which is a match for Canada and the U.K. Can't wait for months for treatment or get treatment at all, fly to another country and pay out of pocket.
Marxist/Socialist Hussein will bring it to your family.

By the way I have worked in the emergency medical field for years and have never saw on person refused treatment, nor even forced to remain in the ambulance for hours until you can be admitted to the ER and not screw up the 'government treatment requirement' of a set time after admission. The U.K EMS folks are really upset about that supid procedure forced on them by socialized medicine.

"The American health care is the worst except all others in the world."

churchill, ...nice.

It's pretty common for people to take unexpected turns for the worse and die unexpectedly. It's happened to people I've known. Attacking Obama over the death of his mother says more Dan than it does Obama.


WileECoyote, I don't know the reason why he didn't go see his mother. And frankly I don't really care why. I'm not going to sit here and try to guess why and then attack him about it. It's a personal tragedy that he dealt with and he obviously learned from it.

If this is all that is left in the tank, then November 4th is going to be one long day for you people.

shorter mj: " i don't know why b. hussein acted like a sociopath! and i don't care why! i'm still voting for him! nothing can change that!! it's not about issues; or deeds; or past behaviors! it's about what he **says**!!"

wow. an honest liberal. just when you think you've seen everything.

It's pretty common for people to take unexpected turns for the worse and die unexpectedly. It's happened to people I've known. Attacking Obama over the death of his mother says more Dan than it does Obama.


Posted by: Worst President Ever | Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 12:28 AM

WileECoyote, I don't know the reason why he didn't go see his mother. And frankly I don't really care why. I'm not going to sit here and try to guess why and then attack him about it. It's a personal tragedy that he dealt with and he obviously learned from it.

If this is all that is left in the tank, then November 4th is going to be one long day for you people.

Posted by: mj | Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 12:38 AM

Thank you for two excellent posts my liberal comrades.

I expect the right wing blogs to be all but out of business in about 3 weeks.

And I'm taking my 15 year old son, along with a friend and his two teenagers to see Obama tomorrow in downtown Indianapolis. And believe it or not my friend is an undecided.

Cheers and good health to both of you and your families.

You know Dan this is one of those times I just don't agree with the tone of this argument.

I have spent the past 20 years treating cancer patients. I have watched too many families be torn apart by the pain and suffering of fighting for their lives. I also watched my mother waste away from cervical cancer in my early twenties. She was only 45 mins away but I found it extremely hard to get over to visit her regularly and she went very fast. At the time I had two jobs and school but when she did pass I would look back and think "I should have seen her more".

Everyone here knows that I can't stand "Barry", "Xerxes" or "the One" but when we start down the path of those haters at Daily Koz, Huffington and other troll sites we legitimize their attacks or blatent hateful comments.

Is it possible that Xerxes is using this as a tactic, you bet, but regardless of his intentions but I'm gonna have to give him a pass on this one.

--...my liberal comrades.

COMRADES. Doesn't that just say it all?

Another day off work, harpo? Going to get that tingly feeling running up your leg? Teach your son to put his hand out, just like daddy?

MJ: re-read my comments. I believe the reason Obama didn't visit his mother is because he didn't much like her, a reaction I completely understand. Mom abandoned him and turned him over to a pervert Gramps and an absentee Grandma who was busy earning the freight for the family. Gramps in turn introduced young Barry/Barack to the man who likely had the most influence on your beloved One's entire being -- Frank Marshall Davis -- a commie, pervert, child molesting monster. You ought to check into the bio of your candidate sometime. It'll make you cry when the pieces fall together. And it sure ought to make you wonder why he hides so much about himself and why.

"yeah right guys - a long weekend is certainly too much to spare where your dying Mother is concerned. I guess liberal hearts really are black."

how's your brother doing, Dan?

"--- It's pretty common for people to take unexpected turns for the worse and die unexpectedly. ---"

Indeed, and the wretched woman lay dying for nearly an entire year, before her cancers finally took her life and her soul to eternal judgment.

And that miserable lawyer son of hers couldn't make even take several days off to visit her in the space of that ONE YEAR before she passed?

Cancer (much less TWO of them) is one of those things that typically kills over time...

A "good" son would have had the decency to have made the flight to see his mother upon finding out the diagnosis, much less waiting a year.

But like most liberals, he is nothing but a selfish, self-centred wretch who cares not a whit for anyone but his own self, his goals, and his power.

And he has the unmitigated GALL to use his sick and dying and dead relatives to pimp his book sales AND his plans to force socialism and socialised medicine down our throats.

The Lord shall judge this low-down, crypto-muslim snake-in-the-grass according to his deeds, unless he repents, believes in Christ, and is truly born again of the Holy Spirit.

Disagreeing with someone's policies is fine. Attacking someone over the death of his mother when you have no clue about the circumstances of her death is, to steal a word from SallyVee, perverted.

Show a little bit of class and go back to attacking Obama for something besides a death in the family.

"And believe it or not my friend is an undecided."

eh. I'm sure after you are done plowing his brain with all the Obama propaganda, he'll be a spittle-drooling Obaminion like you and yours.

"...my liberal comrades."

Heh! Good call on our local collection of commies, ET.

Another day off work, harpo? Going to get that tingly feeling running up your leg? Teach your son to put his hand out, just like daddy?

Posted by: ET | Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 01:11 AM

Had to work today. And some tonight too. Our big evil government is making it tough for a capitalist like me with those pesky product safety inspections. There's money to be made. A little lead isn't going to poison but a few poor kids. Why won't they just leave me alone?

And I'm taking my son to see our next President tomorrow in downtown Indianapolis.

"Attacking someone over the death of his mother when you have no clue about the circumstances of her death is, to steal a word from SallyVee, perverted."

Not hardly.

A big difference between conservative and liberals is FAMILY.

You self-centered latte-sipping, volvo-driving effete, NY Times-reading (ha!) arrogant libs simply don't give a rat's bottom about FAMILY.

A REAL MAN would have went to see his dying mama.

But not that cold-hearted snake, Barack Hussein Obama.

Hey Seek,

My sister had cancer, was under treatment and died completely unexpectedly. Maybe in your world death only happens on schedule. So I can say from personal experience, you don't have a clue what you;'re talking about.

Seekeronos, I'm hoping that your comment is a joke... Because if it's not, then I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you have this much anger and hatred. I would suggest talking to a therapist.

Again, people who attacking Obama on this are trying to turn a non-issue into something. Do you honestly think that you could persuade an undecided voter with this argument?

If you want to flip this argument around, there are some positives that have come out. Obama learned from his mistakes and has vowed no to repeat them again. Obama has learned from the past, something that our current President hasn't been able to do.

Well now if he spent more than a year , say 18 months, running for the Senate seat then the quote would be correct.

94 found disease returned to Hawaii
Early 95 Ayers has launch party
Nov 95 she passes
Nov 96 Obama elected to State Senate.

Possible sequence of events

"You self-centered latte-sipping, volvo-driving effete, NY Times-reading (ha!) arrogant libs simply don't give a rat's bottom about FAMILY."

Right on! We could never care about FAMILY as much as John McCain with him divorcing his wife and splitting up his own family after she was disfigured in an auto accident.

"--- Seekeronos, I'm hoping that your comment is a joke... Because if it's not, then I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you have this much anger and hatred. I would suggest talking to a therapist. ---"

I'm quite serious.

And I have no anger, but rather a deep sorrow for Obama. The man had over a year where he could have visited his dying mother, and settled whatever accounts he had with her.

"--- Hey Seek,

My sister had cancer, was under treatment and died completely unexpectedly. Maybe in your world death only happens on schedule. ---"

And I had a close family member who although having had cancer in and out of remission, and numerous surgeries... I made a point to keep in closer contact than I had in so many years before.

And when that relative finally went home to be with the Lord (the terminal phase of the cancer lasted about five weeks), we made a point to visit as often as we could. It drew our far-flung family as close as it has ever been in decades.

This is why I say it is a cultural thing - conservative, traditional European-American culture puts a very high stake on family.

And this is why I find it difficult to have sympathy for Obama, much less any excuse he can offer for not visiting his mama at any point during her illness... and then having the cast-iron gall to trot her out as TALKING POINT for his political programme (socialised medicine).

"And this is why I find it difficult to have sympathy for Obama"

Straight from the teachings of Jesus Christ. Right?

"for his political programme (socialised medicine)."

That is a lie and breaks one of the top ten. Thou shalt not bear false witness...

You are a fake Christian. And a phony.

No one, not Obama or anyone else is proposing socialized medicine.

I talked to Jesus this afternoon and he told me that seek was going to hell.

Sorry Seek. seems Jesus thinks you're a douchebag.


On a random note, is anyone else have trouble accessing patterico.com or is it just me? It sends me to some sedoparking.com website.

On a random note, is anyone else have trouble accessing patterico.com or is it just me? It sends me to some sedoparking.com website.

I talked to Jesus this afternoon and he told me that seek was going to hell.

Posted by: jaime | Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 02:22 AM

I'm not a religious man but if I'm wrong I believe God has a special place in hell for the fake Christians.

How much lower can you go than to use Jesus and God to mislead, obfuscate, lie, cheat, and steal?

"--- No one, not Obama or anyone else is proposing socialized medicine. ---"

Then it is you who are fooled and beguiled.

With a very, very likely hyper-liberal supermajority in both houses of Congress, Obama will be a rubber stamp to the most socialist policies every vomited up from that pack of wolves that will run DC for the next several years.

And with Obama changing his tune and his story whenever it suits his fancy, it is all but certain that he'll cater to the Kos wing of the party, since there won't be any significant opposition.

So, call it a "lie" all you want. You and I both know that Obama is a socialist, and that Reid and Pelosi won't stop him from imposing socialist plans for "wealth redistribution" and "reparations" and all sorts of other liberal mayhem upon this nation.

God has judged this wretched nation that has repeatedly rejected Him, defied Him, and spat in His face by removing prayer in school, murdering 40 million babies, and destroying the family at every turn through pornography, hetero- and homo-sexual immorality...

... then yes, God will judge this wicked nation in the full fury of His Holy Wrath, and shall bring about its end.

An Obama victory (which is all but certain) shall mark the end of the American Empire, which shall be very likely be rent asunder in the flames of civil war.

It happened to better nations than us - the Chosen Kingdoms of Israel and Judah; it has happened in our lifetimes to Great Britain (once the major source of Christian missionaries, now practically part of the Islamic Caliphate).

"-----
23 Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked.

24 The fierce anger of the LORD shall not return, until he hath done it, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it.
-----"
(Jeremiah 30:23-24, KJV)

Hear then the Word of the LORD against the Prince of Tyrus, who is a type of Obama:

"-----
2b Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:

4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:

5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:

6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;

7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.

8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.

10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.
-----"
(Ezekiel 28:2b-10, KJV)

And for this nation that hath rejected the Lord GOD from being king over their hearts, He saith:

"-----
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
-----"
(Ezekiel 28:17-19, KJV)

Interestingly enough, this is part of the same passage that is used to point out God's judgment against Lucifer's pride.

Read it and know it, and tremble ye, unbelievers, at the words of the Living God, the Judge of the Quick and the Dead, that ye may be saved from fiery Hell.

"--- I'm not a religious man but if I'm wrong I believe God has a special place in hell for the fake Christians. ---"

Specifically, that'd be called "using the Lord's name in vain".

And by virtue of being "fake", i.e. false, or unsaved people claiming to be "christians", they'd go to the same lake of fire as everyone else who has rejected the TRUE Messiah.

However, though I may not always have my facts straight 100% of the time (I am but a sinner saved by grace) I stand firm on what I do know, and as far as I can tell, Obama's a rock-ribbed socialist playing his own best game of obfuscation and muddle-water.

If anyone is the "fake christian", I'd venture to say that it is Obama. His testimony and his witness certainly do not agree, and his words have revealed a very certain socialist tendency about him.

And socialists are enemies of this republic, and indeed, mankind.

Countless millions of lives have been destroyed through socialism.

Socialists are unfit to possess or hold political office in this republic.

"--- No one, not Obama or anyone else is proposing socialized medicine. ---"

Then it is you who are fooled and beguiled.

Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 02:52 AM

No. You know damn well what the truth is. You are a liar and a fake Christian.

The rise of the internet has revealed the truly alarming degree to which we are surrounded in our day-to-day lives by angry mentally-unbalanced sociopaths calling themselves christians. Let's hope these increasingly extenuated messages are keeping "seekeronos" too busy to attend to his real interest, becoming the Canadian or British John Wayne Gacy. (I'm just glad he's not here, where even people who can't spell don't spell it "programme.")

The rise of the internet has revealed the truly alarming degree to which we are surrounded in our day-to-day lives by angry mentally-unbalanced sociopaths calling themselves christians. Let's hope these increasingly extenuated messages are keeping "seekeronos" too busy to attend to his real interest, becoming the Canadian or British John Wayne Gacy. (I'm just glad he's not here, where even people who can't spell don't spell it "programme.")

"--- No. You know damn well what the truth is. You are a liar and a fake Christian. ---"

Sez you. And since our discourse has been suitably lowered to the point where we shall call one another liars... or rather, I shall think of you as a befuddled and fooled man who is so blinded by his partisan love of the slimy Chicago Charlatan, I shall leave you with this last gem of wisdom before retiring for the night:

"neener-neener-neener!"


"--- programme ---"

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/programme

* cough cough *

As to why I seem to fall back to using British English, let's just say I'm a bit of an Anglophile. :)

(Actually, I lived over there for a good bit, and picked up the local spelling. It sort of stuck to me rather well, too... You'd not believe the flak one picks up for spelling colour without the "u", or referring to car tyres as "tires". And may the literary police and the school headmasters be frighted so easily, should I go to the city centre and order a litre of beer instead of a pint - although if I will have a pint, may it be the heftier Imperial Pint rather than the lesser US Pint!)

Funny thing is, not too many folks here raise a big stink about my brandishing the extra "u" or other such seemingly supernumerary letters - it must be that linguistic laissez-faire that speaks to them, "...if Seeker, that poor sod, can be bothered to type those extra letters, then so be it: 'tis but his own carpal tunnels he'll have to deal with."

As for Mr. Gacy, he was a right nasty git, and I fail to see how you can justly compare folks to him when you barely know the difference between them and a can of paint.

" Robert Leroy Riehl Born: 05 Jan 1948 Died: 21 Jun 2004

That was an older brother of mine, John. He’s dead and, yes, he was Gay. You want to know how he died? He died alone, probably of aids for all I know and probably in a San Francisco flop house living on the government’s dime. I say probably because it was the last address I ever had for him from letters exchanged, not having seen the boy/man since I was about 15."

-Dan Riehl, showing love for his brother

Well, you know, Seek, I'm a bit of an anglophile myself. For some reason, I insist on using the letter "e" to spell the word grey, but that's my only comparable idiosyncrasy. (And of course I always expect people will assume I am British. Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

And, look, I've written out a lot of angry, frustrated comments over the last few months over the course of this campaign, but in many cases I finally choose to delete them without sending them, because overall it is the high pitch of rancor and bitterness that is driving me, and why contribute to it? Nobody every wins anybody over, and the level of vitriol and rage only escalates into name-calling and worse. I know better, Seekernoros, than to add to the enmity, and I apologize for my comments about you, flip as they were. TG

" Robert Leroy Riehl Born: 05 Jan 1948 Died: 21 Jun 2004

That was an older brother of mine, John. He’s dead and, yes, he was Gay. You want to know how he died? He died alone, probably of aids for all I know and probably in a San Francisco flop house living on the government’s dime. I say probably because it was the last address I ever had for him from letters exchanged, not having seen the boy/man since I was about 15."

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/10/ballon_juice_ex.html

Say what you will about Barack Obama, at least he knows what his loved ones died of. I'm afraid that's one up on Mr.Riehl over here.

Point of fact is that B. Hussein Obama brought up the tale of his mother first for political fodder. He put it out there so it is a fair matter for discussion. As we've seen in the past, democrats don't hesitate to embellish their personal stories for political gain. It may very well be that b. hussein obama learned his cavalier attitude toward family from his mother and definitely his father.

"A REAL MAN would have went to see his dying mama."


A real man would have served his wife with divorce papers...oops sorry Newt.

TG, no problem.

All things aside, I'll be glad once Nov. 5th is here, "Obama or Nobama". The window of lame duck time between then and 20 January 2005 will give all of us who need it, some reflective time to wind down from hyper-partisan/hyper-rhetoric mode.

And reading the writing on the wall, so to speak, it will give those of us so interested plenty of time to finish hoarding up on bibles, guns, ammo, comic books, and food (not necessarily, but usually, in that order) for the next four long years. :)

Are you patriots still at it? Speaking of corpses, I just saw old man McSame with that idiot bimbo on NBC and he looked like they just pulled him out of the East River! The sad old coot isn't holding up too well. Looks angrier too. He could use some of his nutty wife's happy pills.

Chin up though patriots! Your decrepit old candidate is SURGING in the polls. He, and you, are WINNERS!!!!

Bring em on!! Let's roll!!


Sparto:

"--- A real man would have served his wife with divorce papers...oops sorry Newt. ---"

Right you are.

But unlike the dead, Newt and John can always make their peace with their respective former wives.

Obama cannot dig up the very late Mrs. Durham and apologize to her bones with a very great effect now, or can he, if his messianic powers are what everyone makes him out to be?

If he does manage to pull off that sort of thing, do let us know so we can update "Antichrist Watch".

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