More Fraud?

Michelle has the story - troubling, indeed.

Read her piece then see here  here and here. Why is a UVA class president, Sabato protege and, um, Jefferson Scholar at the top of a masthead of people who at least appear to be involved in voter fraud?

Politics major, Jefferson Scholar and president of the Class of 2007, Ross Baird came to U.Va. intending to study classics. Those plans changed when he took Professor Stephen Innes’ course on the American Revolution. Innes roused Baird’s interest in politics, pointing out that civic engagement was the key to the American Revolution’s success. “It was one of the best courses of my life,” says Baird.

A chance meeting with Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics, led Baird to the center’s Youth Leadership Initiative, which in turn inspired him to found the Georgia Project for Civic Engagement — a program that involves high school students in politics in Baird's home state. Sabato also helped Baird pursue scholarships and grants to support his travel research to examine voter turnout in the United States and Europe. Baird says enthusiastically, “My mentors here have really developed and nurtured my interest in politics.”

Comments

[Mickey Mouse]

I take umbrage at these accusations of Voter Fraud. I've tried, believe me. Yet somehow, no matter how many Mickey Mouse registration forms I send in, when I show up at the voting booth, they demand some form of "identification" and I'm SOL. You guys make it sound too easy. Let's see YOU try it.

[mary]

Arab Americans on the Move in Old Dominion State By Karim Al-Awar Smither

[mary]

Middle East studies in the News
Middle East Experts Endorse Obama
[At Oxford University]
Daily Kos Blog
April 17, 2008
Karim Al-Awar Smither (PHD Candidate: IR – Focus: Middle East)
http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/5004

[mary]

Heather Halstead

Halstead properties?

[mary]

All the students in the organization seem to be "well connected". They also seem to have one thing in common which is just plain fascinating.

[mary]

Sorry that this is OT but Davide Ferber on CNBC just said that all the guys who came up with the derivatives and CDO's went guess where? MIT

No wonder they need Neel Kashkari to unwind this stuff, because it was designed by engineers, you need the unwind to be done by engineers.

[chris]

mary, are you talking to yourself again? It's all well and good until you start answering. Then there's a problem.

[North Dallas Thirty]

No answer on the voter fraud, huh Chris?

Didn't expect so; it's hard for Obama supporters like yourself to admit that false registrations and multiple voting are, in fact, a crime -- because Barack Obama says they aren't.

[Soulblighter]

I'm still waiting to hear an explanation of how Mickey Mouse manages to get to the voting booth. Republicans had plenty of fake registrations thrown out in California in 2006 and nobody called them terrorists. It's trivially easy to turn in a fake voter registration, and even if they report that the registration is dubious (as ACORN has done) it's also a crime for them to withhold it. They either get tossed out by the registrar at that point, or they're moot when nobody can produce one or two Mickey Mouse photo IDs on election day. Wasn't that the whole point of the stiffer ID requirements? Isn't the system working as intended?

[Soulblighter]

For that matter, if I want to undermine a Republican registration drive, shouldn't I fill out a bunch of Mickey Mouse forms and then alert the news media? There's no chance in hell that it would translate to multiple votes, yet apparently it would prove that the Republicans were engaging in "voter fraud".

[mary]

Besides being a CRIME voter fraud diminishes every vote, everyone of us. Just like the market, if people can't have confidence in their vote, this would not be "a good thing".

[mary]

The are pre voting in Ohio. You can't be sure that no one pre voted a hundred times there as there were apparently no poll watchers? Republicans weren't allowed in? Come on.

Lately, I heard on the MSM that they are concerned about the absentee ballots of students because of this voter fraud business, as they so aptly put it. Whenever I hear them dropping little tidbits like this I always wonder what is the broader agenda? Will all the students have to return to their state of official residence in order to be able to vote?

When you bring this up with a group, you have no idea how many stories I hear about people knowing about their parents, voting via the absentee ballot in college and then voting again in their little college town. And everyone says it like "oh of course this happened". Now this is the group who graduated in the 70's but still they are way too eager to pass along these stories. A friend's dad actually said, "I don't know why Clinton didn't win by a higher percentage, I voted for him twice" and he laughed.

[seekeronos]

"--- Besides being a CRIME voter fraud diminishes every vote, everyone of us. Just like the market, if people can't have confidence in their vote, this would not be "a good thing". ---"

Well said.

In fact, it is almost as if the Media's goal is to discourage people from even bothering to vote this November - as if to say that it is completely tainted, and it really won't mater what you think after all: because the elites have decided from long ago which way this election shall go.

More realistically, I think that the Obama campaign either has some fantastic dirt on Mac that is now kept under wraps, or he has been offered a soft time for his declining years in the Senate - or perhaps some combination of both.

There is no other way to explain McCain's milquetoast, wishy-washy, weak campaign.

[mary]

There is no way to explain it especially when you go back and see him arguing eloquently in the senate.

I agree they are trying to make people think it is such a landslide so why bother to vote? this is directed at independent who they think will not vote for BO and republicans who have a tendency to get lazy about voting.

In states that are considered democratic states people are saying "why bother to go vote for McCain, my state always goes democratic anyway".

This is something the McCain campaign must address and now.

[seekeronos]

"--- In states that are considered democratic states people are saying "why bother to go vote for McCain, my state always goes democratic anyway". ---"

This was part of my motive for wanting to vote for Dr. Baldwin.

However, being as he isn't eligible to be a write-in according to NYS election law... that leaves me with either B.O. or the Mac.

And frankly, B.O. just stinks.

I'd almost give good money to have seen what a Fred Thompson/Obama debate would have looked like... if there was one thing that Fred does well, it is the off-the-cuff zinger.

[seekeronos]

And I certainly would give money to see a debate between Obama, McCain, Dr. Baldwin (Constitution Party), Cynthia McKinney (Greens), Bob Barr (Libertarians) and Ralph Nader (I).

To hear the diversity of opinion there would be a real hoot.