Would The Leftiside Blogs Kindly Remember This

Perhaps the Left side of the blogosphere remembers headlines like the one below - or a number of other similar headlines I've seen over time.

Late Nite FDL: When Malkin Goes Stalkin’

Tonight a liberal commenter left this TPM link in my comments:

Hess Corporation "Office Manager" And Her Husband Both Gave $28,500 To Elect McCain

I just reached Ms Rocchio and she insisted adamantly that the contributions were theirs.

"It was my option to give," she told me. "This is my favorite candidate...I fully acknowledge that [the donation] was done by myself personally, my own doing." She added that the same went for her husband.

When I pointed out that the Rocchios' job titles seemed to jar a bit with the size of their donations, Ms. Rocchio said that no one could guess the real income levels of other people.

But Greg Sargent didn't stop there. Nah

Hess Employee Who Gave $28,500 To McCain Effort Is A Renter

Here's a bit more on Alice and Pasquale Rocchio, the couple who each gave $28,500 to the RNC-McCain fund on the same day that eight Hess Corporation execs and/or Hess family members gave the same.

As reported below, Alice is a Hess "office manager," and Pasquale is an Amtrak "track foreman." The two live in a middle class neighborhood in Flushing, Queens.

So, during the health care debate - the Frosts put themselves front and center in a very public manner. And Michelle checked them out.

She was a stalker!!!

But now two people who exercised their constitutional right to quietly support a candidate with legal donations ... claim those as their own - need to be insulted by a Left-wing hack who thinks they don't make enough money and then they have the details of their living situation kicked all over the Left-side of the blogosphere. And that's good journalism, right?

But Malkin .... she's a menace.

You people really suck.

Comments

[seekeronos]

All, but you see you forgot Dan... in this election year, scrutinizing a lefty's unusual and disproportionate wealth relative to the welfare/free healthcare bennies is an act of high fascism and possibly even racism, if not for the fact that the Frosts were as white as the driven snow.

But to do the same to a right-of-centre family donating their hard-earned money to the political organizations of their choice, pillorying them is not only righteous, but a requirement.

To turnabout a phrase the mook formerly known as "Zifnab" (a clown who may currently post here under the handle "Islamollama") IOKIADDI:

"It's OK if a Democrat Does it".

[Joana Blogosphere]

This is because blogs help you to brand your business. http://helpntips.com/blogosphere/

[PA]

Of course no outrage over Obama getting $20K from Hamas

[Spartan112]

You really think a couple with mid-level (at best) jobs that rent their home had the cash on hand to donate 60k? Really? Ok. Sure. BTW, I've got a lovely time share I'd love to sell you.

[Totally Heterosexual Conservative]

" legal donations"

Really? That's the question being raised isn't it?

"Of course no outrage over Obama getting $20K from Hamas."

That's because it's not true. See how that works, liar?

"pillorying"

Yes, because making a phone call based on publicly available campaign information is exactly the same thing as stalking a family with a severely injured child because they dared to praise a program that helped them out. Won't someone PLEASE think of the poor corporate doners!! Just can't have a government program that does what it's supposed to do - help someone who really needs it, right? You're *really* scared shitless that the serfs are about to realize that elites like you are full of shit and have absolutely nothing to offer the average American. I guess you better deflate your tires and leave your A/C blaring with the windows open.

[seekeronos]

"--- stalking a family with a severely injured child because they dared to praise a program that helped them out. ---"

*dusts off the old dirty 400+ post count thread*

Well then.

But however the Frosts qualified, it certainly wasn't on account of how poor or fiscally responsible that family was. It stands to reason that Papa Frost either couldn't keep a business floated, or get a decent job, much less provide enough to get a decent insurance coverage for his family *BEFORE* the catastrophic accident.

As for these other people, what's the big deal? They had a huge pile of money, and decided to give it to a some organization that funnelled it to McCain's coffers.

I'd have invested it elsewhere to be sure, perhaps in end-times survival equipment given the direction we are headed in for the next four years regardless of whichever candidate wins.

[SacTownMan]

Papa Frost was a lazy, do nothing, slug (i.e. a liberal democrat!). I recall the guy cruising around in a new F-250 truck, wasn't there a Volvo and a SUV also?. This loser chose to forgo providing his family with medical insurance but he had plenty of money for the car payments and any other creature comfort he thought was more important.

Michelle did the job that the MSM wouldn't do which was to question the poster families need for a program designed to help cover poor children. The Dems wanted to expand it as a first step towards free healthcare for all. They chose to parade these folks out as examples of the need for expanding the SCHIP program well beyond it's original purpose. All they did was to use a POS dad who exeplifies much of what is wrong with this country. Anyone that would put their woodworking hobby and new cars ahead of their own families need for medical insurance is a loser plain and simple.

There are millions in this country that skip the new car and take a real job to ensure that they provide health insurance for their kids. This loser just expected the rest of us to take care of that little nuisance for him instead.

[Scrapiron]

"The left sucks". That is a true statement but you will be in big trouble for telling the truth about them. Add the fact that the democrats don't know the difference in a 'right' and a 'crime'. It is still a 'right' to donate isn't it. I know the current leaders of congress would like to make it illegal unless the donation is from a terrorists to Baracki boy but it hasn't passed, yet.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- So, during the health care debate - the Frosts put themselves front and center in a very public manner. And Michelle checked them out.

She was a stalker!!! --"

She literally camped outside the Frost family house and peaked through their windows. She is, literally, a stalker. Yes.

"-- But now two people who exercised their constitutional right to quietly support a candidate with legal donations ... claim those as their own - need to be insulted by a Left-wing hack who thinks they don't make enough money and then they have the details of their living situation kicked all over the Left-side of the blogosphere. And that's good journalism, right?

But Malkin .... she's a menace. --"

Two people, who were required to file paperwork indicating additional information about their employment status, their business affiliations, and their incomes.

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/index.php

You can do this without leaving your desk, much less your residence. And you don't need to trespass on other people's property, to boot. To say that investigating McCain's donors via openly accessible documentation provided by the self-same donors is equivalent to traipsing through shrubbery trying to get line of sight to the family kitchen is so incredibly dishonest, disingenious, and outright stupid that it deserves to be posted front and center on the site.

Congratulations Dan, you're par for the course.

[Spartan112]

"As for these other people, what's the big deal? They had a huge pile of money, and decided to give it to a some organization that funnelled it to McCain's coffers."

You really think that's the truth? I thought you were smarter than that Seek...ok, I didn't really, but I held out hope.

[seekeronos]

Tell ya what, Spartan.

It really doesn't matter what other people do with their money. Admittedly, it seems fishy on the surface. But who are we to know if these folks haven't simply had some extra cash left over from some good investments, or perhaps a bonus from their employers?

Now if I had an extra 50k to blow, I'd probably try to get me one of these bad boys:

http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifle_95.aspx

...just looking at that sends a sort of tingle up my legs -- maybe that is what Chris Matthews feels when he dreams about Obama taking him for a limo ride.

Or perhaps one of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPrfK4xjvBY

That's a Mossberg/Maverick 500 bullpup 12ga. shotgun... not available in stores: they stopped making them some years ago.

[Spartan112]

"It really doesn't matter what other people do with their money"

If it's their money than you would be correct...oh the irony of a co-author of McCain-Feingold running afoul of the FEC.

[seekeronos]

"--- oh the irony of a co-author of McCain-Feingold running afoul of the FEC ---"

Well, technically, it would be the Hess Corporation and/or the Rocchio family who may have run afoul of the law... as far as I understand it, donors are limited to $2,300 per person per election cycle per candidate, and up to $5,000 to PACs. I am unsure if donating to parties themselves have any limits, as the Rocchios appear to have done...

But yeah, this certainly has potential to be more than just a thorn in McCain's side.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Well, technically, it would be the Hess Corporation and/or the Rocchio family who may have run afoul of the law... --"

Yes, because while the Hess Corp cronies donated the money, it's not like John McCain accepted or spent it. Makes sense to me.

[Spartan112]

So if I accept stolen property I haven't committed a crime? Cool.

[seekeronos]

It seems that the max you can donate per person per year to a political party is $26,700...

The following links are taken largely from liberal or Democratic supporting organizations, but I reckon the law applies the same to GOP leaning organizations and any third parties as well:

This ticker at the HuffPo shows this (current as of 15:15 EST, 7.Aug.2008)
http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=Kay&fname=James

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James A Jr Kay
Executive
Buddy Corp
Updated
Q1/2007

$26,700

Van Nuys CA
Donation to Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
James Allan Jr. Kay
Donation of $26,700 to Democratic Congressional
Campaign Committee

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James Allan Jr. Kay
Investor
Buddy Corp
Updated
Q1/2007

$26,700

Van Nuys CA
Donation to Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
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And on the Green Party web site at https://secure.democracyinaction.com/dia/organizations/Greens/shop/custom.jsp?donate_page_KEY=1969, they list a max contribution of $26,700 as follows:

"---

I have read the following statements and am abiding by the Federal elections laws (please review this list and check box):

-The Green Party of the United States does not accept contributions from corporations, labor organizations, or corporate Political Action Committees (PACs). The legal limit for contributions is $26,700 per calendar year, per contributor.

-I am making this donation from my own funds, not those of another, and through my personal credit or debit card for which I have a legal obligation to pay, and not through a corporate or business entity card or the card of another.

-This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization, or national bank.

-I am a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident of the U.S. residing in the U.S

-I am not a federal government contractor.

---"

And, this PDF file at the New Progressive Coalition ( www.newprogressivecoalition.com/assets/pdf/politicalgiving101.pdf. ), we see this same upper limit:

"---
What is a political party?

A political party is an organization that works to elect government officials and promote the party. The DNC can raise and spend hard dollars in support their various activities including supporting candidates. Individuals can contribute up to $26,700 per year to a federal political party committee and up to $10,000 per state party, subject to other limits described below. There are other opportunities to contribute to state party committees that will be discussed in future reports.
Contributions to political parties are not tax-deductible.
---"

In that same document, they list the following types of organizations and donation limits IAW McCain-Feingold, per person per election cycle:

PACs: $5,000

Political Parties: $26,700

Candidates Committees: $2,300

Total Aggregate limit to ALL Political parties, PACs and federal candidates: (in a two year election cycle) $101,400, and the cap for ALL candidates altogether in a two-year cycle is $40,000.

[seekeronos]

And from the Bright Bulbs at TPM, we have this:

"--- Late Update: It turns out that $28,500 is the maximum that can be given to the RNC, but because this particular victory fund collects money via various channels, an individual donor can actually give more than that to it. I've edited out "maximum" from the headline. Obviously this doesn't change the story in any way. ---"

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/oil_company_executives.php

[w3]

If I were a liberal I would want people like seekeronos to be put in prison for life, or their home firebombed, or their children stalked at their school for espousing the idea that a person in the US is presumed guilty until they've proven they have done nothing wrong.

But I'm a conservative which is why I support liberals putting their stupidity and hypocrisy on display in public as often as possible and to feel safe doing so.

[w3]

I also support my own ignorance being publicly on display... seekeronos was not the liberal to whom I was directing my comments.

My bad.

[seekeronos]

To w3:

Eh? What are you talking about? I'm pretty far removed from being a liberal. You might be misreading my paleo-conservatism (i.e. non-interventionism) as being "liberal", but I'd say I pass muster on most conservative issues:

- small government (i.e. no more regulation than what is necessary to prevent civil disorder)
- transparent government
- free markets
- freedom OF religion (not forced "freedom" from it)
- sound money and banking
- holding fast to the old, traditional Northern European and American social values that made us great
- and a strict interpretation of the US Constitution as the law of the land.

I'm not calling for the presumed guilt of anyone here, I'm just looking to see what is what: did the Rocchios or Hess Corporation violate the Law?

[seekeronos]

w3: Erm... Never mind then. :)

[Spartan112]

"- freedom OF religion (not forced "freedom" from it) "

Don't you mean "Freedom of A religion" specifically yours?

[IslamoLlama]

"-- If I were a liberal I would want people like seekeronos to be put in prison for life, or their home firebombed, or their children stalked at their school for espousing the idea that a person in the US is presumed guilty until they've proven they have done nothing wrong. --"

Or, you know, you could volunteer for a political campaign or organize your community or donate to your favorite charity. But yeah, I guess "wanting" at people works too.

[Jeff]

liberals ... can you spell HSU ?

Didn't think so ...

Do you really think the McCain of McCain-Feingold would be chasing illegal donations ? get a clue ...

[Jim C]

Islamollama,

Nice try... to bad Malkin DIDN'T "traipse through the shrubbery" to get a look into their kitchen.