Hillary: The Speech Of Her Career?

Aside from getting miffed at one point when she basically stated Republicans "give" the oil companies wind fall profits ... as if any profit is government's to give - I have to admit to being extremely impressed with Hillary's speech - on form, if not substance. The only down side being her pace - a tad quick. Had she given speeches like that regularly throughout the Spring, we might be looking at a different story today.

And that tells me this woman isn't done, even if this isn't her year. My best guess - she cut a deal with Obama giving her a Supreme Court slot if he wins while in reality she believes he is going to lose.

She easily did what she had to do as regards Obama to remain viable in Democrat politics. And, as regards Obama, she didn't do much more. I didn't hear her protesting any roll call vote tomorrow - did you?

Candidly, for Democrats she would have been the better and more formidable general election candidate. And I have said that all along. And one other thing she did tonight was raise the bar just a little bit higher for Obama, whether it was her intention to do that, or not.

Comments

[tim maguire]

I couldn't agree more that Hillary was the better choice. And who knows, that Ayers ad might have gotten released just in time. The Democrats have 24 hours to fix their mistake. (Yeah, I know, Hillary in 2012, but still...)

[Spartan112]

"She easily did what she had to do as regards Obama to remain viable in Democrat politics. And, as regards Obama, she didn't do much more."

Were you paying attention? And as for the roll call, it's already been floated that they're going to do a symbolic version with only NY taking part prior to her releasing her delegates.

She made it clear in this speech that she was supporting Obama and for any democrat to do otherwise would be the gravest of errors. Not only that but she had some great one-liners in regards to McCain and the Tubman quote at the end was incredible.

Top that Mitt Romney.

[jharp]

"Candidly, for Democrats she would have been the better and more formidable general election candidate."

So that's why the drug addicted, limp dicked, draft dodger Limbo was encouraging republicans to vote Hillary?

It's all so confusing.

[paul]

If some news channel really wanted to stick the knife into the obama campaign...
run a poll of Clinton v. McCain, Obama v. McCain.

IF obama loses in Nov, how long will it be before the libs blame hillary? god knows we are going to see her quote about obama on foreign policy-he's given a speech in 2002-about a zillion times.

The messiah needs his judas. Actually the religion of obama needs a judas, to explain the pending crucifixion.

Hillary in 2012? Where does obama go, other than the veep spot?

[Richard Peter Wiener III]

Hehehehehehe, Hillary says that Michelle would be a great first lady but never says that Baracko would be a great POTUS.

The DFL blew it bigtime, not only in their Pres choice but in veep as well. All that's left now is to drag things out through the election so the libs can hang their heads and tearfully ask, "What happened"??? (again).

[Richard Peter Wiener III]

---So that's why the drug addicted, limp dicked, draft dodger Limbo was encouraging republicans to vote Hillary?---

Bill Clinton now goes by "Limbo"?

It's all so confusing.

[Terry Gain]

The prolific Limbaugh has 20 million listeners. How depressing to leftists. No wonder harpo would prefer to concentrate on the hardness of Limbaugh's dick.

[dualdiagnosis]

It's confusing if you didn't see that the goal and the timing of "Operation Chaos" was to wound Obama during the nominating process.

"Mission Accomplished".

[jharp]

"The prolific Limbaugh has 20 million listeners."

Yes he does. And most take him seriously.

Very depressing that 20 million American's are that friggin stupid.

You a dittohead, Terry?

[Dan Riehl]

"Were you paying attention?"

Yes, Sparto my lad, were you? Riddle me this numbnuts, apart from common cause - upon which everyone already knew the entire hall was in agreement - list ONE reason - ONE reason she gave for voting for Obama? Did she priase him for being able to get things done? Did she say she admired his work ethic, his great dedication to his work? Um, no - she, in fact, did not.

Oh, but here's a clue for you, boyo. She did say this: John McCain is a good friend and HE has served his country well.

Go ahead and parse Hillary's speech looking for what she said of the two candidates aside from what everyone already knew was true regarding the different party agendas.

The fact is this smug nuts, she gave more of a personal endorsement to John McCain than she came close to giving to Barry O. Oh .. oh .... get it now?

Nah, of course not. You're already down on your knees waiting for Obawon-rezko's-cannoli to slip a wafer in your mouth that's never going to come.

Too bad! : )

[Richard Peter Wiener III]

Uh oh, hot on the heels of the latest Ayers/Obama ad comes a 2004 interview with Ayers where he says he was acting on the "side of justice" when his group committed their attacks.

I wonder if the Obama campaign will try to silence that too, considering how hard they are trying to kill the current Ayers ad. "Free speech for me but not for thee"-so sayeth Lord Obama, so let it be done.

[European Expat]

Actually Limbaugh can count over 25 million daily listeners.

Now Air America....how's that going for ya?

[Jake]

She also said loudly and clearly that she had spent 35 years in the trenches as a direct contrast to Obama's little speech, and she said loudly and clearly "FIFTY states plus Guam and other holdings.." spank. She was brilliant in making her brilliance tan Obama's hide.

[seekeronos]

"--- So that's why the ... blah blah blah ... Limbaugh was encouraging republicans to vote Hillary? ---"

Even more scary than those conservatives who "take Rush seriously", i.e. hanging on his every word as if it were gospel, are the liberals who are take Rush all the more seriously.

[SukieTawdry]

I'll admit she was really on fire there at the end. The first half, though, was peppered with all that sob-sister mush Democrats love to spoon feed to the faithful. I just tune out when they start with that stuff. That speech was the official kick-off to the 2012 campaign. God help us.

[George]

Republicans gave oil companies the same windfall profits that Clinton gave them during the 1990s, I guess. Which begs the question, when is a profit a windfall profit? When the Democrats need it to be for rhetorical purposes? Another buzz phrase to rile up the base?

Remind me again why I switched from Democrat to Independent...

[Spartan112]

"She did say this: John McCain is a good friend and HE has served his country well." quickly followed by..."He's wrong" did you miss that part?

"Obama is my candidate and he must be our president"

"No Way. No How. Now McCain"

A pretty stark contrast Danny boy.

[Spartan112]

"list ONE reason - ONE reason she gave for voting for Obama?"

Is it ok with you if I give you several??

"When Barack Obama is in the White House he'll revitalize the economy, defend the working people of America, and meet the global challenge of our time"

There's 3.

"Nothing less than the fate of our nation and the future of our children hangs in the balance"

I know that probably seem like tepid support to the ears of someone bent on the destruction of our future but for most of us it's pretty clear she's serious as a heart attack...has McCain had one of those yet?

[C Smith]

Hillary on the SCOTUS? You could give lessons to Stephen King, sir.

[Dan Riehl]

Sure Sparto - Obi will do this, he'll do that - meanwhile hubby Bill is over talking about contrasting pols - one who cant get things done, one who can't.

Seriously, Sparto - take the time to sit down and figure it out. If you think she has Obawon's back - get ready to be stabbed in the heart. Because this lady is not done.

[Bandit]

Maybe I'm the only one but she souunds to me like she's whacked out on prescription meds.

[Harry]

For Hillary to be on the Supreme Court, she would have to give up her presidential ambitions. Not going to happen.

More likely scenario- Obama loses, Hillary gets the 2012 nomination based on the meme, "If you had nominated me in 2008, we would have won."

[templar knight]

"Nothing less than the fate of the nation and the future of our children hangs in the balance."

That's for damn sure. If that terror-supporting clown Obama is elected, he will flood the US with terrorists from Africa and the ME. And even though I don't particularly like McCain, I have now volunteered to work in his local campaign. The fate of the nation hangs in the balance. We can't afford to turn this country over to Obama and his supporters.

You need to come on board, seek. We can't afford to waste a single vote.

[seekeronos]

There ain't a backstabbin' knife made yet that Hillary didn't take a liking to.

[Bel Air]

I like that the speech was a 'grand slam' but the DNC won't actually test that by making the roll call vote public. If it was so good then Hillary's supporters would be onboard with Obama. So put it to the test if you're so confident.

[SacTownMan]

Hillary would have been the better of the two candidates.

Sparky is grasping for straws if he thought this was a ringing endorsement of Barry.

Shillary did what she had to. This was primarily done to show party unity for the folks.

There is no way anyone could walk away from this speech and think that she was doing any more than the minimum.

No stories about Barry being the community organizer guru, no mention of him being ready to lead only the generic "no McCain" type lines. If you didn't know better you would have thought that she was the nominee.

And did anyone else check out Michelle, that was one pissed off momma.

Just wait till Bill gets a chance to rub a little more salt in the wound tonight. All of this drama followed by the Rock star treatment Thursday.

Barry's handlers have been spinning like a top trying to deal with the unhappy Clinton's, keeping Barry away from real people, hiding the Chicago past and seeing "the One" continue to slide in the polls.

[seekeronos]

"--- You need to come on board, seek. We can't afford to waste a single vote. ---"

I'm in NY, a state that will likely see more than 70% of voters turning out for Obama, with ultra-liberal NYC turning out disproportionately for the Dems. So I can rest a bit easier knowing that my individual vote will be washed out regardless of my support for a third party candidate.

Although McCain is buying some air time here. In the past few weeks, I think I've seen about three McCain adverts for every one from Obama.

Maybe Mac is hedging his bets on the PUMAs and the older, whiter Upstate, mid-to-upper Hudson Valley, Finger Lakes, and the Buffalo-Schenectady farming corridor against the typically liberal Capital District and NYC liberal bastions.

Factoring in the average self-identified Republican I know around my parts is of the slightly left-centre "Rockefeller" Republican mould, mixed in with Blue Dogs in the NY state hinterlands, McCain just might fly with more than a few folks.

As for me, I just can't see myself pulling for McCain. I could have compromised with Mitt or Fred, and would have been quite happy with Dr. Ron Paul.

But McCain is just too much of a compromiser with the left, if not a bit tied to the NeoCons for my conscience to support him.

It's a bit of a punch in the gut to learn that my guy (Chuck Baldwin) won't make the NY ballot due to our very strict signature requirements. I also heard he didn't make the Texas ballot either.

Since write-ins generally don't amount to much in presidential elections, I may likely go for Bob Barr as my distant second since he is on the ballot... I'll have to keep it in prayer.

[The Fop]

The reason that Republicans like me were praying that Jesus Lincoln King Jr. didn't pick Hillary as his VP, is because Hillary defined herself once she became the underdog in the primary race. She became a tough, scrappy street fighter. When she threw back those shots of Crown Royal whiskey in Pennsy dive bars, she was believable to the extent that she was so unabashed in her desire to win that she didn't care if people thought she was obscenely pandering. She came across as so determined, that you could actually picture her drinking Crown Royal in the privacy of her own hotel room or living room.

Because of this, there were plenty of Republicans who were thinking "you know what, if we have to have a Democrat in the White House, I'll take her over 90% of the rest of them, at least when it comes to dealing with the likes of Putin and Ahmadinejad, she's got balls".

This image of toughness would have carried over to the general election. Obama's an idiot for not picking her. Thank God for his gargantuan ego and stupidity. Instead, he picks that clown Biden, who reminds me of Charles Grodin playing the role of a politician who's slightly "off".

[Peggy McGilligan]

I just can't help but think about H. Ross Perot. In 1992, H. Ross, a Texas billionaire ran a successful third-party candidacy for president. As it turns out, H. Ross's agenda was to peel enough votes from George H. W. Bush, another Texas billionaire, who also happened to be the incumbent president and hand the election to the Democratic challenger, who happened to be Bill Clinton. H. Ross siphoned off an estimated 20-million votes. Mission accomplished, H. Ross vanished into the ether from whence he sprung, leaving 20-million voters in the lurch. Bill Clinton went on to fulfill many of H. Ross's more popular proposals, like a balanced budget. But while H. Ross's motive had been a vendetta, the Clinton's motives are political. And, on them the lesson of Perot’s displaced minions has not been lost. As Dwight D. Eisenhower said: The only thing new under the sun, is the history you don’t know: http://theseedsof9-11.com

[seekeronos]

Peggy,

I fully well realize that the campaigns of third parties are little better than spoilers, and that H. Ross Perot particularly spoiled George H.W. Bush, and that Ralph Nader did Al Gore a rather nasty turn in 2000.

Such is the nature of our seemingly permanently ensconced, elitist classes of our two-party travesty. But this is the thing: as both parties get complacent and say to themselves "that it doesn't matter what the electorate wants" often enough - that same electorate, increasingly disenfranchised before the conventions are even started, will turn to the Constitutionalists, the Libertarians, and even the socialistic Greens in greater numbers.

Registrations for the Libertarian Party and the Constitution party ar both on a significant rise this year, as well as folks de-registering from the two major parties (or registering as independent voters).

Though I identify ideologically with the Constitution Party, they will likely only get 7% of the voters (even including the likely lack of qualified write-ins from NY and more importantly, TX, which tends to run quite a bit more indy-conservative than NY). Which is actually sort of impressive, considering that the average person has never even heard of Dr. Chuck Baldwin or his VP running mate, Darryl Castle.

The Libertarians are on the ballot in 41 states, particularly the high population/high electoral vote count states. And they've got a reasonably well-known whose been making the rounds on RW-talk radio and TV in their corner: former GA congressman Bob Barr.

They just might pull 15-20% of the popular vote, which won't win the election, of course, but will give them all the more household name recognition and weaken one or both major parties.

For that matter, the LP has the capability to pull votes from BOTH major parties, since their planks cover different aspects of issues neither major party wants to touch.

McCain's a no-sale for me, until and unless he wakes up with some sort of epiphany where he shows credible evidence that he will govern from the footsteps of Robert Taft and Cal Coolidge or even Dr. Ron Paul.

Johnny Mac would need to show that he would move to suspend or pull the USA out of the UN, bring our troops home from around the world so as to properly defend our borders, our trade routes, and our local sphere of influence, give us sound money and a regulatory system that does not squash business, but does not let it get away with murder... and to generally get the government shrunk back to its proper size and sphere and out of snooping over everyone's private lives, then I might vote for him.

But for this generation, the GOP is owned by NeoCon interventionists who are not in the least bit bothered about spending the inheritance of our grandchildren, and that is nearly just as bad as the blind socialism of the leftocrats.