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I know the difference might be slight but in "The Last Temptation of Christ" the relationship between Christ and Mary M. doesn't actually happen. The events of the film happen only in Christ's mind as he is on the cross, he's thinking of what his life might have been like had he chosen a different path.

What's the diff? They are works of fiction, both of them. I didn't protest Last Temptation. Obviously, as with all historical "novels," the research she did was setting, customs, etc - plenty of historical novels are "well researched" That this idiot Spellberg used that to hang the work is BS. You can tell from her actions she's just shilling for Allah with this crap of hers. As I believe she's at a public university - she should be dismissed for her lack of ethics and integrity. Not to mention being too G-ddamned stupid to breathe and walk at the same time.

I don't agree with her, but I'm not sure anything she did displays a lack of ethics. The publishers probably should have thought twice before sending her the galleys.

Dan, I can just imagine the outrage of the liberals had a conservative killed a book hostile in its interpretations to Jesus Christ, for instance. Oh, the censorship! And all the indignity the Spartan112 can gather is that he didn't agree with her. Just about par for the course.

Spare me the righteous indignation Temp. If it HAD been a book about Christ that was abandoned you wouldn't have made any comment other than to support the publishers decision.

Temp's right. "Censorship! What about civil rights!Blah blah blah."

The simple fact is the elites of the media/schmogressive world are scared s---less of the Muzzies. How sickening.

She knew exactly what she was doing. If not then liberals are as cluless as they seem. Either way - not good. How on Earth could anybody not know Muslims would threaten violence against the author of a book critical of Islam? Has she been in a cave the last 25 years?

Spartan you seem to whish to 'get' Dan with your idiotic statement more than addressing the facts at hand. Are you able to address the facts at hand? Publisher axes book due to muslim fanatics threats of violence. That is the important fact here. Can you address that? Also can you point to a book being spiked because of threats of Christian violence?

I know of no book spiked for that reason, but I've known of a number of plays/gallery showings, etc. spike for that very reason. Certainly Right Wing hero Rudolph Giuliani has a long history of trying to pull exhibits based on pressure from the catholic church. Here's the thing, that actually is censorship. Random House made a business decision. Not one I agree with, but no one in the government tried to pressure them into spiking this book.

What little I read on line of the intro to "Jewel of Medina" looked like what I'd expect to see in a Harlequin Romance were I ever to look inside one of those bodice-rippers. Even the title fits the genre. Trashy garbage, from over-written twaddle to pornographic farces, have often been made base on historical facts and characters.

I am a Muslim and like many of my religion, a civil libertarian. Of course people should have the right to write, publish, buy, and read this sort of absurd twaddle, but I would hope that it would die in the market place from critical pans and neglect. From what I read I was more offended by the bad writing than by the content. Uh, yeah. It's a novel. However well or badly researched it is it's still fiction and shouldn't be taken too seriously. Oh, heavens... this crap shouldn't be taken seriously at all. What a tempest in a teapot all this is!

Any debate only inflates its "importance" (sic).

Spart writes: "Certainly Right Wing hero Rudolph Giuliani has a long history of trying to pull exhibits based on pressure from the catholic church."

BBeeeeeyyyyyyaaaaatttttttt. Wrong on two counts.
First, Giuliani only has a short history of trying to pull disgusting anti-Christian exhibits that relied on tax-payer money and on using public places maintained by tax-payer money. Separation of "church" (including atheist church) and state mean anything to you, Spart? Second, how do you know it was Catholic Church "pressure" and not his own judgement that caused him to make the decisions he did? Is it atheist pressure that makes you write the comments you do?

Uh, Spartan, I was merely pointing out liberal hypocrisy. As usual, you wish to change the subject.

As much as I revere them Fred, an art museum is not a church. And as for the first count, what is a "long" history in the case of Guliani? He started censoring art in 1999, 9 years seems like plenty to me but it is open to interpretation. Oh, and I never suggested that the Catholic Church pressured Guliani.

Oh my Spart: " He started censoring art in 1999, 9 years seems like plenty to me but it is open to interpretation."

Spart, you peed your diapers when you were a baby, do you still do that? When was the last time you heard of Giuliani wanting to close an ant-Christian exhibit for which tax money was paying a part. How stupid.

How recent does it have to be? I mean he hasn't had a position of power that has allowed him to promote his form of censorship in a number of years. Given the chance I'm sure he's love to pull funding for some anti-catholic exhibits.

To Spartan112: They cancelled the book for fear of "danger to the building and staff" and "violence" and after consulting "security experts" (Nomani in WSJ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121797979078815073.html) and you would still call that a "business decision?"

I am a Liberal and people like Denise Spellberg make me ashamed. Thank you for calling her out.

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