Understanding Jackson's Just Released Comment

TVNewser breaks more in the matter of Hot Mic comments made by Jesse Jackson via Fox News. While the "N" word will get the attention, the actual gist of Jackson's comment reveals that, like many others, Jackson believes Obama to be an elitist.

Barack...he's talking down to black people...telling n—s how to behave.

Jackson is actually projecting the attitude that many black people are somehow less than onto Obama, in other words, that he is treating them like niggers in terms of how he is approaching certain factions of the black community.

If that spells any potential trouble for Obama, it is in the area of black voter turnout in the Fall. If many in the black community begin to perceive Obama as someone who thinks he is somehow better than them, they could conclude he's no better than the average white guy and stay home.

Whether or not that sense of Obama is widespread within the black community, or just a product of Jackson's jealousy remains to be seen. But it is interesting to note that Jackson echoes the "elitist" attack on Obama, usually reserved for Right-wing pundits. I guess they've pegged Obama right in this case. Don't look for that to become a cartoon on the cover of The New Yorker anytime soon.

Comments

[SacTownMan]

Dan you are talking like a racist again!

You know you can't talk about the whole black thing when Barry is involved. That's because Jesse is really black and Barry is more of a 50/50 bar. That is what is at the root of the issue for Jesse. Brother Jess' don't like the elitist preaching to his fellow black folk, it's that simple!

I just don't see Shaft when he speaks, he's more like a liberal version of Carlton on the "Fresh Prince of Bel Air". Who the hell eats argula? (or whatever that veggie crap he likes so much is called)

Hey Jesse you remember the theme song from Shaft, you know --

"Shut your mouth..... but I'm talking bout' Barry

.. and we can dig it!"

[xerock]

If JJ can't stop saying the dreaded "N" word, then what hope is there?

How does one say that terrible word in Spanish? Perhaps Obama knows.

This harkens back to that big question that was floating around a while ago, "is he BLACK enough?".

The answer is, who are you asking? Obama's black enough to sit in the audience of the trinity church for 20 years, and not notice what the Revrend who married him to his wife was really saying. (whatever that means)

But he's no where near black enough to tell (all?) kids to stay in school. And really, how dare he?

And now that I know that JJ can't stand Barack, I as a white male feel so much more likely to accept Barack. Now that I get how not black Barack really is. I mean, if JJ doesn't like him then he must be mostly honkey. And that makes me comfortable with his weather vain forighn policy. Phew. That was close. I thought for a minute there that he had no idea what he was talking about, but now that I know that he's only pretending to be black, all is good again.

I wonder if when Barry was at home as a child, when he was learning how to be black from watching TV (?!?) that in a million years he would have guessed that one day JJ would be telling him that he's just not black enough to speak his mind to other black people?

[BobInStamford]

Well, that settles it. Black America will obviously now vote for the stubby little old white man. McSame/Macaca '08!!

The SURGE is over patriots!! VICTORY is YOURS!!!

[seekeronos]

"--- How does one say that terrible word in Spanish? Perhaps Obama knows. ---"

If I am not mistaken, in Spanish it is pronounced >>nay-gro'>my-YAH'-teh<< ) may be the "fighting word" version of the same in Mexican Spanish.

[seekeronos]

Oops. I must have had a formatting error.

"--- How does one say that terrible word in Spanish? Perhaps Obama knows. ---"

If I am not mistaken, in Spanish it is pronounced *nay-gro'* (slight emphasis and trilled "r" on the second syllable) and is not freighted with the dread possibility of getting knifed or shot by the persons of whom this descriptor may be applied to.

Although I believe "mallate" (pronounced *my-YAH'-teh*) may be the "fighting word" version of the same in Mexican Spanish.

[seekeronos]

Which reminds me that JJ was the one who wanted to put the entire N-word on the shelf from usage by either whites or blacks.

I guess like all good hypocrites, he needn't heed his own dictates of conscience when criticizing his semi-co-ethnics.

[Spartan112]

Maybe you're missing the point...maybe it's JJ that blacks are "on to" as you put it.

[Concerned Citizen]

Slightly off topic but important.

"Obama Fights Dirty."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/17/not-illegal-but-is-it-moral/#more-3618

A must-see video linked above. CNN exclusive that actually vets Obama.

Obama likes to run unopposed because that's the only way he can win. He knocked Alice Palmer, his MENTOR, off the ballot.

Also, it is noted at noquarterusa.net that the challenges were done on the last day so that Obama's
opponents had no time to respond.

[templar knight]

Dan, this is off topic I know, but there is quite a bit of buzz of late about death threats being received by Hillary supporters and Democrats supporting McCain.

I think this story is worth a post. And quite a bit of discussion should ensue.

[Spartan112]

"Dan, this is off topic I know, but there is quite a bit of buzz of late about death threats being received by Hillary supporters and Democrats supporting McCain.

I think this story is worth a post. And quite a bit of discussion should ensue."

And I'm sure every last bit of it accurate...I heard McCain rapes baby seals...when are you going to report that Dan? Hmmmmm?

[seekeronos]

"--- death threats being received by Hillary supporters and Democrats supporting McCain. ---"

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/black_hillary_supporters_may_b.html

[scarshapedstar]

Yeah, whatever. How many black friends you got, Dan? I've asked a few of mine at my restaurant if they were considering not voting for Obama because he's "not black enough" and they looked at me like I was from another planet. And if you think they listen to Jesse Jackson... again, do you know any black people? At all?

[seekeronos]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Marcy_Tweed

AS far as strong-arm tactics go, one has to wonder how far Obie will go, especially if this race goes anything like the 2000 race in terms of a close vote.

Will the Obamites rebel and make a civil insurrection ala Watts 1969 if their boy doesn't win?

No wait, I should say "their man". Being a honkey, I guess I can't use the "b" word as that might be "racist"...

[seekeronos]

Obama plays the "McCain = Confused" card.

Meaning that he uses weasel words to poke at McCain's age. Good thing no one will do like Jim Geraghty over at NRO suggests that the McCain campaign could do in kind:

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjcxNjUyYzQ5YWU1YmVkNTU3NmM3OGRkYjAyMzZmYzQ=

[seekeronos]

Oops... looks like Fred beat me to th punch on that link in an earlier post.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- While the "N" word will get the attention, the actual gist of Jackson's comment reveals that, like many others, Jackson believes Obama to be an elitist. --"

And when Jesse Jackson believes something, you know it gets Dan's instant stamp of approval. Seriously, weirdest bedfellows ever. But so it goes.

Dan will choke down every off-the-cuff remark and take every flippant comment to the depths of his heart, be the comment from Jesse Jackson or Jesse Helms, Nancy Grace or Nancy Pelosi, Tom DeLay or Oprah, so long as it re-enforces what he wants to think.

If one wanted to indulge in a little intellectual honesty, one might point out how Dan was singing Barack's praises just eight months ago, when Hillary Clinton was the presumptive nominee.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2008/01/why-i-am-endors.html

That said, I admit that Dan is at least being tacitly honest. We see screed after screed against Obama, tearing him up and down for something a surrogate said or some news coverage that Dan considers unfair, or for having a policy position that Dan disagrees with. Yet Dan's animosity towards John McCain remains strong. Post after post decrying Barack Obama. Not a word for John McCain. Four years ago, Dan couldn't tell us enough about how he absolutely adored George Bush. Bush was doing such a wonderful job. He was strong and brave and dashing and so much smarter than those silly liberals.

But McCain receives no such treatment. He is barely mentioned and is never the centerpiece of a post. Dan won't be voting for J. Sidney the 3rd in the fall. He'll be voting against the Democratic Party in the form of its presumptive nominee. His vote will be informed by decades of built up resentment for an opposition party and have absolutely no roots in support of his own.

Dan is a political orphan. It's kinda sad, really.

[Anne]

seek, funny you should say that about Obamites and rebelling,

RUSS SMITH warns that a rejection of Obama at the polls this fall could bring lefty riots—or worse.

http://nypress.com/21/29/news&columns/mugger.cfm

[Fred Be;oit]

Obama now says:

"In fact, true success in Iraq — victory in Iraq — will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms. True success will take place when we leave Iraq to a government that is taking responsibility for its future — a government that prevents sectarian conflict, and ensures that the al-Qaeda threat which has been beaten back by our troops does not reemerge. That is an achievable goal if we pursue a comprehensive plan to press the Iraqis to stand up."
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-tries-rewriting-history/

[Fred Beloit]

Moe say: "Yes, bring them all home. First the troops in Iraq, then the rest. Bring them all home."
Posted by: IslamoLlama | Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 01:57 PM

Beloit say: "Kaching, WRONG. The war is over. We won. The savages lost. Now is the mopping up and ensuring that Iraq can protect itself from foreign invaders."

Now, is Obama's position at this time closer to Moe's or to Beloit's position?

[seekeronos]

Fred. I think that on the face of what Obama said regarding victory in Iraq, he is correct.

It is not a war to force the surrender of a foreign aggressor government ... that part was done when Bush did his "Mission Accomplished Victory Carrier Landing" back in 2003.

It will involve drawing down our forces once a satisfactory level is reached (which I think we have reached, or are right close to it) where Iraq can "fend for herself".

HOWEVER... this does not take away from what Obama has said previously, and has until recently been archived on his site, but now is safely scrubbed down the memory hole:

"--- We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a civil war. And until we acknowledge that reality, uh, we can send 15,000 more troops; 20,000 more troops; 30,000 more troops. Uh, I don't know any, uh, expert on the region or any military officer that I've spoken to, uh, privately that believes that that is gonna make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground. ---"

(Sen. B.H. Obama, D-IL, January 2007)

[Fred Beloit]

Obama the stealth candidate?

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30676_Obama_the_Cypher#rss

[Spartan112]

AS far as strong-arm tactics go, one has to wonder how far Obie will go, especially if this race goes anything like the 2000 race in terms of a close vote.

Will the Obamites rebel and make a civil insurrection ala Watts 1969 if their boy doesn't win?

No wait, I should say "their man". Being a honkey, I guess I can't use the "b" word as that might be "racist"...

Yeah...no racial overtones to what you're saying...get that sheet back from the cleaners yet?

[SpaceCat]

Yeah, Obama, who only paid off his student loans in the last 5 years is the elitist. Not McCain, who's been in Washington for 30 years and has a $150 million wife who thinks the only practical way to get around Arizona is by private plane.

[templar knight]

Uh..moron from Michigan State, the allegations are coming from Democrats, not Republicans. More violent threats by the unhinched on the Left, and no one is surprised by it. Of course, the cowardly little shits never threaten anyone able to respond to them.

They seem to be of the opinion that the election of Obama will give them carte blanche to go on a rampage. If I were white, and a conservative, I'd get the hell out of blue states and big cities. You are going to be a target. All you white liberals are going to get from these dipwads just what you deserve. Good luck with your

[seekeronos]

"---
Yeah...no racial overtones to what you're saying...get that sheet back from the cleaners yet?
---"

Nah, white sheets are so passé. 1,000 count Egyptian silk, or better, if you please.

Besides, as a NY'er, I am obligated to dress in shades of black. Or black with dark grey accents.

That aside, I'm just calling it as it is: I will not be surprised or spectacularly disappointed if there is a lot of rioting in the Black community and less so in Latino communities if McCain narrowly wins the election.

Of course, I am not stating that they WILL do such a thing... I simply will not be taken aback if they do; there is a certain expectation that the Obamessiah will have his coronation on 4th Nov. 2008, and if he doesn't get it, some folks may be of a mind that it, like all other things to ever befall the black race, is whitey's fault.

Now to be fair, we can also say that amongst my fellow honkies, I'm sure that the garden variety ELFs and leftist nutjobs wearing kaffiyehs and old ANSWER grannies will be on hand to burn their panties or whatever the devil it is you lefties do when you don't get your way.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- He’s never released any legal or billing records to verify that he only did a few hours of work for a nonprofit tied to Tony Rezko. --"

Really? You're demanding that he prove a negative? He never released any records proving that he hasn't donated money to any Islamic Charities. Nor has he released recordings proving that he hasn't committed a felony or cheated on his college coursework.

It's almost like Obama has neglected to keep records of all the things he hasn't done. Manchurian Candidate! Manchurian Candidate!

See, I like your article because it basically states, "I don't know enough about Barack Obama to make an informed decision, and he must therefore be the worst thing I could possibly imagine."

Perhaps Barry X is dealing drugs out of his campaign headquarters or accepting donations from Iranians or hiding WMDs. Who knows?

And where's Barack Obama's REAL birth certificate?

"-- His state legislative office records ***may*** have been thrown out, ***he told us*** --"

For fuck's sake, just verify it your god-damn self! What sort of shitstain rag is the Chicago Sun-Times that they can't go down to the State Capital and CHECK? Maybe his records have been thrown out. Maybe they're in a filing cabinet. We'd check, but we've got a deadline to meet.

Why would I buying a newspaper that seems to have put itself in the business of telling me what it doesn't know?

[seekeronos]

Wow, Llama. This must really have your hackles up, what with you using all that profanity to get your point across.

Now ya'll have to pardon me whilst I'll have to rinse my ears out.

[Spartan112]

Whereas the rethuglicans will just pay people to riot like they did at the florida courthouse.

[Worst President Ever]

Us "Leftists" haven't gotten our way for a long time. The real question is how will conservatives take it if Obama and a bunch of true populists are swept into power. Will conservatives riot in the streets? Will they start blowing stuff up ala Oklahoma City?

[templar knight]

Like I said, you assholes will get yours from your own kind. I'll watch the show from the sidelines, should be quite delightful watching you jerks squirm.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Wow, Llama. This must really have your hackles up, what with you using all that profanity to get your point across. --"

I'm hoping that's sarcasm.

"-- Now ya'll have to pardon me whilst I'll have to rinse my ears out. --"

Might I suggest the dulcet tones of the Bobby McFerrin in a stirring rendition of "Don't Worry, Be Happy"?

[IslamoLlama]

"-- The real question is how will conservatives take it if Obama and a bunch of true populists are swept into power. Will conservatives riot in the streets? Will they start blowing stuff up ala Oklahoma City? --"

Knowing the average wingnut, there will be a run on Cheetos and kool-aid, while the brave keyboard commandos tighten their tin-foil hats and theorize how Obama is using alien mind rays and the Illuminati to turn everyone into vegetarians.

These guys are all harmless once they can't get their way anymore.

[Worst President Ever]

You're right and the cheetos anaology fits conservatives to a T. All puffed up, full of air, red in the face and dangerous to anyone's health.

[SacTownMan]

President Carter says,

"Will conservatives riot in the streets? Will they start blowing stuff up ala Oklahoma City?"

Just like your incompetent namesake you continue to show you are a non-thinking troll with nothing meaningful to add to the dialogue.

How many riots can you name in the past 40 years that involved conservatives? You and your loser liberal friends are the experts at pitching a shit fit when things don't go your way. See Chicago 1968 or Seattle and the WTO for examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention
http://www.photomediagroup.com/pmm/issues/Winter2000/wto.htm

As far as comparing conservatives with a sick ass domestic terrorist like Timothy McVey you show just what an ass you are.

Perhaps Barry's terrorist buddies can help you on the blowing shit up part. They have a lot more experience.

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/02/23/obamas-terrorist-friends/

The only difference between them and McVey is he received justice and they got off to one day make friends and hang out with the worst presidential candidate since.... well you!

[Spartan112]

How many riots can you name in the past 40 years that involved conservatives?

The Cincinnati Courthouse Riot of 1884

The East Tenn. Campaign Riot of 1867

The Colfax Massacre 1873

The 1921 Tulsa Race Riot

Of course you asked for the last 40 years (conveniently a time when conservatives have generally gotten their way) so here's the most recent I could recall.

The Brooks Brothers riot of 2000.

There will be riots when Obama wins...the racists will come out of the woodwork.

Of course these days angry white conservatives don't riot, instead they practice intimidation as with the Jena 6.

[Worst President Ever]

Yeah, you've got a lot more in common with McVeigh than me.

As usual, your facts are off.
Chicago police had as much to do with the riot as the protesters. That's was it's been called a Police riot.

As for the WTO, there's lots of people from across the political spectrum involved there. But much / most of the property damage was done by anarchists.

Rich White Guys don't really need to riot - they've got pretty much everything going their way - they've even brain-washed people like you to be their mindless drones.

George W. Bush - Worst President Ever!!!

[Anne]

You mean the Jena 6 thugs.

What ever happened to that $500,000.00 the families got to defend them? Bell pleaded, another one got arrested in Texas on another assault charge. Two were rewarded by BET, must have been Beat Up a Cracker night.

[Spartan112]

You mean the Jena 6 thugs.

What ever happened to that $500,000.00 the families got to defend them? Bell pleaded, another one got arrested in Texas on another assault charge. Two were rewarded by BET, must have been Beat Up a Cracker night.

If you had a choice of getting out of a juvenile facility in 18 mos or doing 25yrs for attempted murder what would you do? Bell essentially admitted committing assault but the point was that he was greatly over charged all while crimes by white students were all but ignored. Any student involved with the hanging of the noose should have been expelled pronto.

What about the white man who aimed a shotgun at two blacks in Jena after the incident? Oh yeah, charges were brought in that case...against the blacks for disarming the man and taking his shotgun before reporting the incident to police.

[seekeronos]

"--- Us "Leftists" haven't gotten our way for a long time. The real question is how will conservatives take it if Obama and a bunch of true populists are swept into power. Will conservatives riot in the streets? Will they start blowing stuff up ala Oklahoma City? ---"

Nah, we conservatives are much more organized and malicious in our particular brand of mayhem.

We would most likely write letters to editors, maybe make some scathing blog entries, and if we REALLY want to be mean spirited, we unleash Rush and Hannity for four years of unceasingly critical commentary about how inept the Obamessiah truly is as he shipwrecks this nation in ways unthinkable even by Bush family standards.

The tin-foil hats and conspiracy-theory mongering is just a window dressing at best, and generally a distraction whilst we marshal our forces for victory in 2010 in both houses of Congress and the POTUS in 2012.

[Gov. Orval Faubus, D-Arkansas]

"Jena 6"

Ah, the joys of desegregation.

[Anne]

Jena 6 thugs report

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1024/p09s01-coop.html

[Anne]

Patterico's report on the Jena 6 thugs - and the MSM distortions

http://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:qcQwfRf1Hj0J:patterico.com/2007/09/22/la-times-distorts-facts-of-jena-6-case/+Jenna+six&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=67&gl=us

[Gov. Orval Faubus, D-Arkansas]

If the white kids who hung the nooses (supposedly as a prank toward the rodeo team, where the white kids had no specific knowledge of the link between nooses and lynching) were worthy of being prosecuted for hate crimes, how much more so those Negroes who brutalized young Mr. Barker.

[Spartan112]

No knowledge of the link between nooses and lynching? In the deep south??? Riiiight...

[Xerock]

"o knowledge of the link between nooses and lynching? In the deep south??? Riiiight..."

Fine. Have it your way spartan. But the fact remains, none of the Jena 6 EVER LAID EYES ON the nooses. They were down before those kids got to school. And, if a child makes a racist prank, even if it's truly out something ugly, isn't that still a first amendment case? Hate crime or not, it's still only words.

The Jena 6 beat someone (not one of the kids who hung the nooses by the way) to what they thought was DEATH. THEY GANGED UP ON HIM AND KICKED HIM TO DEATH. When they left him laying there, they might as well have thought him dead. DO YOU NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE 2 CRIMES? ARE YOU THAT THICK?

I mean, Jesse Jackson just said that he wants to castrate Obama, who he also called a "half breed nigger".

Now tell me, are a bunch of thugs going to kick him to DEATH for that? WOULD THEY BE RIGHT TO DO SO??

[Fred Beloit]

Oh dear. Charles Krauthammer kicks Obie's butt so hard in the WAPO today it even makes me cry. Oow oow oow oow.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071701839.html

[seekeronos]

Simple facts on the ground are that the vast majority of negroes, especially youth, are more prone to acting on their violent urges.

Ever see "The Boondocks", a cartoon drawn by a young negro about two young negroes living with their grandfather?

It may be a bit of a satire, but the typical levels of violence and the depiction of the "nigga moment"

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/128845/nigga_moment/

Even a satire has its roots in truth. The Jena 6 had their "nigga moment", and they deserve to suffer under the mailed fist of justice.

[Fred Beloit]

Gateway grumbles about Gore's gang of gas guzzlers. Carbon tickets, get your carbon tickets right here.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/perfect-gore-takes-fleet-of-gas.html

[Fred Beloit]

Nervousness in Donkeytown noted by Don Surber:

"Question: Will it be a Democratic year?

Answer: Susan Estrich is getting nervous: 'The polls make me nervous. Not desperate, not hopeless, not resigned, but nervous. Barack Obama should be ahead right now. Way ahead. Not even close is how it should look, even though I wouldn’t for a minute tell you that if it were that would seal the deal. But the fact that my old candidate Mike Dukakis was running better 20 years ago against George Bush than Obama is today against John McCain makes me nervous.'"

[seekeronos]

And before y'all hop on top of me for that last remark, I'd have it the same way for a gang of whites beating up on a black man.

Or a group of any other people beating up on one other person. Race shouldn't figure into this, but not surprisingly, it does aggravate the matter by getting the entire community up in a rage, to say nothing of fueling the professional race-baiters, Sharpton, Farrakhan, Wright, Duke, et al.