Obama Doesn't Get A Pass On Wounded Troops

I have no idea why some aligned with the Right are wanting to blur the focus on Obama's decision to not visit with wounded troops during his recent travels:

Update: Here’s the way the ad should have played it:

“If I had been told by the Pentagon that I couldn’t visit those troops, and I was there and wanted to be there, I guarantee you, there would have been a seismic event,” McCain told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos in an interview to air Sunday on “This Week”…

McCain questioned his rival’s justification: “I know of no Pentagon regulation that would have prevented him from going there — without the media and the press and all of the associated people. Nothing that I know of would have kept him from visiting those wounded troops.”

“All of the associated people” meaning Ret. Gen. Gration, specifically. Obama still has yet to explain why he didn’t just leave him behind.

Hey, it's hardball season in the world of politics and the political championship of, effectively, the free world is at stake. Obama left himself open for this attack. What kind of judgment is that? McCain's point to ABC is dead on. Obama wants so badly to become C-I-C it's all he can do to keep himself from acting the part prematurely - witness that pathetic faux-presidential seal that disappeared the day it was unveiled.

We want to be full of righteous indignation now? Wait until the crap starts flying at McCain as we move into Fall. Are we forgetting they almost got Bush because of forged documents at the last minute? Who knows what's coming this time. If McCain can paint Obama as a showboating empty suit early, he might never really recover. Elections aren't always won and lost in the Fall and you know the media will be all Obama all the time then, as well as making his convention speech something akin to the Sermon on the Mount. McCain needs to hit this guy with everything and anything he can. And he needs to do it now and, most likely, until the final innings.

AND - at the end of the day, the facts are quite simple ... a man who desires to be C-I-C has neglected his political responsibilities on Afghanistan, tried, with his entire Party, to lose the Iraq War ... and given an opportunity, he worked out in a gym without breaking a sweat with some blond and couldn't be bothered to move heaven and earth to make sure he visited with that group of wounded troops he presumes himself qualified to command.

BS.

He deserves everything he gets for that stupid and thoughtless decision, regardless of what his rationale was. Nothing serves to excuse him for it and assigning the worst of motivations for the decision is just good political sport ... which always has been more of a contact sport than baseball, anyway.

Comments

[Spartan112]

"--- The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan. ---"

Funny thing how the liberals can change their tune about the war being right or wrong depending upon the chances their man has of getting into the White House.

The problem is you are conflating one war with the other. Obama has always supported the war in Afghanistan, no tune change just you having an inability to understand that Iraq and Afghanistan are different nations (and Iraq doesn't share a border with Pakistan Mr. McSame).

[Spartan112]

I have a question Temp...Did we enter Iraq based on Military need or as a result of political desire?

[IslamoLlama]

"-- More examples of the "One" --"

Can someone roll back the clock and tell me when Obama became the Highlander?

Seriously, are you so god damn racist that you can't even pick a black movie character to represent a black Presidential Candidate? Just wondering.

[seekeronos]

"--- The problem is you are conflating one war with the other. ---"

Not at all.

You either have a war which is legal and within the bounds of the Constitution, or you don't.

You either have a war based upon intervention and "regime change", or a war that is confined to defending the lives, property and interests of the United States WITHIN its territorial waters, airspaces, and land.

You either throw away trillions of dollars and pour out the blood of our finest youth in wars of questionable importance, or you can bring them home out of Germany, Korea, Japan and all other forward deployed locations to put some on the borders, and rebalance our priorities toward reviving our crumbling markets and and industry, if not remitting some of those trillions of dollars back to taxpayers.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Now back to the subject at hand which is the "One" shitting on the wounded troops. He is slime ball and a weasle and the troops know that, no suprise there. Don't expect his groupies in the MSM to spend any time on this.. just more of the "Nothing to see here, move along" crap we've witnessed all along. --"

Lols. Sure thing, Captain Cheetos. Btw, mind letting us in on which branch of the military you served in? Or are you just pulling all this out of soldiers' heads through the psychic powers you picked up. Blah blah Obama hates the troops blah blah the troops hate Obama blah blah all evidence to the contrary is a lie perpetuated by the lie-brul media.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/snubbing_wounded_troops.html

"-- When Obama was in Kuwait and Iraq, he was traveling without reporters or campaign staff and visited military installations as part of a congressional delegation that included Sen. Reed and Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska. Hagel said afterward, on CBS' "Face the Nation" July 27: "We saw troops everywhere we went on the congressional delegation. We went out of our way to see those troops." --"

"-- You people are being used to perpetuate one of the biggest socialist led hoaxes this country has ever seen and you're just too stupid or blinded by the flame to see through all of the hype! --"

Pro-tip: People who support Osama bin Hussien X are all socialists themselves. All of them. You're sitting in a country turned into a hotbed of socialism that makes Soviet Russia look like a Wall Street board room. Seriously. The communists are fucking everywhere. Next door neighbors, teachers, doctors, policemen... we've been planning this shit for the last 4 years and on January 9th, we're going to start rounding you're white asses up and throwing you in Gulags when we don't throw you up against a wall Che Guevera style. Better sleep with your guns snuggled up close. We know who you are and where you live. The internet has been one giant CIA-run collection source for guys like you. And when the revolution comes... well you know.

Just wanted to give you the heads up. Don't tell anybody.

[seekeronos]

"--- Seriously, are you so (blaspheming removed) racist that you can't even pick a black movie character ---"

Ah, the old Liberal/Obama talking Point #5:

"If you don't vote for Barry you're a racist!"

Lessee... who'd be a good fit?

Blacula?

Blade?

Shaft?

Anyone from "I'm Gonna Git You, Sucka!"...?

Ain't doing Mace Windu, since he got sliced by that honky cracka Jedi, Annakin Skywalker who was "the Chosen One" with the supercharged midi-chlorians (though his "later" incarnation as Darth Vader was voiced by James Earl Jones, so he might qualify -- even if the guy under the mask was also a cracka)

Besides, what was wrong with "Highlander"? That was a pretty cool movie franchise for its time.

Anyway, I think the former poster may have been referring to Keanu Reeves' character "NEO" as "The One" in the Matrix.

[seekeronos]

"--- and on January 9th, we're going to start rounding you're white asses up and throwing you in Gulags when we don't throw you up against a wall Che Guevera style. Better sleep with your guns snuggled up close. ---"

Hyperbolically speaking (since this is all, like, hyperbole and such) ...

I betcha I just might inconveniently ventilate more than a few of you commie murderers before you get to me and mine. I have enough "New York Reloads" available and I qualified marksman with more than weapon.

And since I know Who my eternal security is, and where I am going when I die, I am not particularly afraid of what y'all do to my carcass when y'all do get to me.

I highly recommend you consider that there are a good many of us Americans still left who are as well armed or better than I...just so that you commies don't get any really crazy ideas.

Of course, the above is all like, hypothetical, because we all know that there are no commies and gun-grabbing authoritarians just drooling at the prospect of 8 years of Herr Barry as the Dear Leader.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Ah, the old Liberal/Obama talking Point #5:

"If you don't vote for Barry you're a racist!" --"

I never suggested that at all. Vote for whomever you want. But if you're going to start tossing around names like "the One", it would be nice if you actually referenced a black movie character rather than a white one. It demonstrates the limit of your scope and the rather tainted lens through which you view life. Had you compared him to The Black Panther or Shaft or Shaqile O'Neil or some other fictitious TV character, you would have scored fewer racism points.

[Totally Heterosexual Conservative]

Obama Derrangement Syndrome is now officially wingnut chic. I bet Obama caused Novacula's brain tumor! Boo! On the bright side, meatballs like SacTown will be pleasently out of the way for the next 8 years, shacked up in a tree house in Montana, saving his own urine (just in case), waiting out the horrors of the Neo-Nazi regime of Barry Hussein X and his scantily-clad, affro-ed supporters.

Or he'll be shooting up abortion clinic and unitarian churches.

[Mr DeBakey]

"NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports that there was never a plan for Obama to take the press to Landstuhl, despite the claim by McCain folks and others. The plan was to go with his military aide, retired General Scott Gration.

The Pentagon said Gration was off-limits because he had joined the campaign -- violating rules that it not be a political stop.
Obama had gone to see wounded troops in Iraq earlier in the week, without even confirming he'd been there. No press, no pictures. He has done the same when he goes to Walter Reed -- never any press."

Andrea Mitchell is not an Obama-pologist, nothing about her is Left.
Candidate McCain's assertions are incorrect.

[templar knight]

"..or shooting up unitarian churches."

From what I've read the guy you're referring to hated Christians. I wonder what particular group has made a living hating on Christians the past eight years. Oh, it's liberal shitheads like Totally Ignorant Homosexual(He goes by the nick of Totally Heterosexual Conservative in a stupid attempt to ....well, nobody knows why he's psychotic, but everyone will say he was such a nice man, he fixed my flat, he carried my groceries, etc.)

[templar knight]

I see Mr. Debakey has now had the time to get his Democratic talking points adjusted. What a tool! Besides, what soldier would even want to see Obama, anyway? I know my son and most of his unit can't stand the bastard.

[supernintendo chalmers]

I thought "the One" was a Neo of "The Matrix" fame reference?

[Totally Heterosexual Conservative]

Yes, tk. I know if all you read is Michelle Malkin and Sean Hannity, you will hear that the big bad LIEbrul hated Christians. Such has to be the case in order to maintain the wingnut-as-perpetual-victims theme.

OR

You could read what the Knoxville Police Chief has come up with via his, you know, police investigation:

http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/2008/07/28/america/OUKWD-UK-TENNESSEE-SHOOTING.php

Dude hates and wanted to kill liberals. Just like you do. But I'm sure the Knoxville PD are all apart of the LIEbrul conspiracy to take your guns and Bibles away.

[templar knight]

OK, totally, I'll give you this one, but liberals have been hating on Christians, especially evangelical Christians, for eight years, and several church shootings, including one in the story you link, have been attributed to people hating Christians. You can't deny the truth, and this is the only church shooting I know about that specifically targeted liberals.

[templar knight]

"..just like you do."

Dude, I guess I hit a nerve with that post. LOL!

[Spartan112]

"You either have a war which is legal and within the bounds of the Constitution, or you don't."

Both are within the bounds of the Constitution, but that doesn't mean they are both the right thing to do...one clearly was the right thing to do, one was not. Can't you admit that invading Iraq was a mistake? Or will they come take your membership card?

[Spartan112]

"OK, totally, I'll give you this one, but liberals have been hating on Christians, especially evangelical Christians, for eight years, and several church shootings, including one in the story you link, have been attributed to people hating Christians. You can't deny the truth, and this is the only church shooting I know about that specifically targeted liberals."

Ahem...I seem to recall a few dozen church burnings that targeted liberal churches.

[seekeronos]

Colour it however you like, but the TN church shooting was a tragedy.

Even if the sect in question (Unitarian-Universalist) is a heretical sect steeped in both doctrinal error and far-from-centre Liberal politics.

But the anti-Christian hate is out there. I give this country about another 10 years before we are all at each other hammer and tongs like the Iraqis have been, or like the former Yugoslavs were at the rate we are going... or less, if the Feds decide to crack down Soviet style with interning large segments of the population in FEMA labour camps or "re-education" camps.

I'm sure the restive Negro and Mexica populations as well as most everyone else in "Flyover Country" will really handle *that* well.

Oh, and speaking of the much benighted Negroes, who owe nothing to this nation, and to whom everything is owed... why on earth should we be thought racists for not coming up with a viable role comparison of "the One" as a black actor or performer?

When you say "the One", especially in the context of referring to a messianic type character, a few ideas come to mind: Jesus, "Neo", Anakin Skywalker... how the heck are Shaq or Shaft messianic characters??

Role models, perhaps. But not messiahs. I'm afraid that Obama has filled the vacuum for a Negro messiah.

And if my use of the term Negro gives you fits, which I am certain it will... well, it seems that "black" and "coloured" are out of vogue as is the ever used "N-bomb" (except when reclaimed by their own like the Left Reverend Jesse Jackson) ... and repeatedly typing "African-American" will wear thin quickly.

I guess some Negroes need to get over their sense of eternal victimhood and their sense of undeserved favour, and Whites need to stop kowtowing at the altars of political correctness and guilt for deeds done some six generations ago.

Maybe the pundits are right about one thing: President Obama will wipe away a lot of that old "white guilt" that seems to give the Negroes fuel for their victim-playing fires.

[BobInStamford]

Oh my!! That redneck church shooter was a real winner. Unemployed, angry, gun-toting, disheveled, conservative, welfare recipient. The list goes on. President Obama will need to deal with his kind. Taking their guns away for starters.

[SacTownMan]

"Seriously, are you so god damn racist that you can't even pick a black movie character to represent a black Presidential Candidate? Just wondering."

Obi-Wan Kenobi the hate is strong in this one!

While I did use the term "The One" to describe "Barry" I can't claim credit for the name. It has actually been coined by a much better known racist then me though;

http://gothamist.com/2007/12/09/oprah_calls_oba.php

It is also used often by the McCain campaign staff though so you might want to take it up with Oprah or them first.

If you need a metaphor for the almost black candidate who better than Kenue Reeves a lebanese born mixed race actor that was the true "one" to save us from the machines (aka "the moonbats").

"His father Samuel Nowlin Reeves, Jr. (b. 1942) is Chinese and Hawaiian. His mother Patricia Taylor is English, making him Eurasian"

So the metaphor of him and Barry as a "non-white" guy that will lead the bitter, clingy white people out of the wilderness is actually quite apropos!

The more you post here the more you show yourself for the partisan hack you are. Daily Koz and Move-On are a much better venue for your superior wit and lack of humor. I combination that I am sure has served you well in your fast food management career!

[SacTownMan]

Come on Sock Puppet can't you figure out yet if you are Chris or Bob. Get a grip loser!

"Oh my!! That redneck church shooter was a real winner. Unemployed, angry, gun-toting, disheveled, conservative, welfare recipient. The list goes on. President Obama will need to deal with his kind. Taking their guns away for starters."

Mommy, mommy, make the voices in my head stop!!!

[seekeronos]

"--- Both are within the bounds of the Constitution, but that doesn't mean they are both the right thing to do...one clearly was the right thing to do, one was not. ---"

Both wars are very much on the fringe of being legal: CONGRESS has the power to declare war (or grant letters of Marque and Reprisal). They voted to cede that right to the POTUS. From a strict constructionist point of view, that action (specifically, the AUMF for both military actions) was unconstitutional: only CONGRESS has the power to start wars, and to end them by controlling the funding.

Now the dichotomy exists in that the Democrats have their pet wars (WW1, WW2, Korea, Bay of Pigs, Operation Power Pack, Early Vietnam, Operation Eagle Claw, Yugoslavia, Haiti (Operation Uphold Democracy), Kosovo, Somalia, Numerous Other African Ops lead by Clinton, the Iraqi No-Fly Enforcement) as much as the GOP has its pet wars (Late Vietnam, Grenada, Lebanon, Panama, Gulf War 1, Gulf War 2).

Really, the bulk of these operations, police actions, conflicts and "wars" really had little to do with the continental defense of the USA, or its airspace, or its waterways. And nearly all of them were terribly burdensome on the taxpayers.

Both major parties are guilty of spending the taxpayers' money and abusing the public trust, and sadly, I doubt that there is much chance of that really changing in the near future.

"--- Can't you admit that invading Iraq was a mistake? Or will they come take your membership card? ---"

I tell you that Iraq AND Afghanistan are mistakes. As was just about every "conflict" or "police action" from Korea until now.

And since my "Membership Card" is with the Constitution Party, I really don't think that is in any danger of getting yanked.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- I thought "the One" was a Neo of "The Matrix" fame reference? --"

Ah, could be.

[Spartan112]

"Even if the sect in question (Unitarian-Universalist) is a heretical sect steeped in both doctrinal error and far-from-centre Liberal politics."

Does that include their historical involvement in founding this nation or in leading the abolitionist movement?

[Spartan112]

"And since my "Membership Card" is with the Constitution Party, I really don't think that is in any danger of getting yanked."

Do they meet in your basement?

[Totally Heterosexual Conservative]

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/snubbing_wounded_troops.html

Any response, liars?

[templar knight]

"Any response, liars?"

You know chris/Boob, Spartan, Moe, DeBakey, as well as yourself, won't respond to these kinds of stories.

My question to you, dufus, is why the Obama just didn't leave the general and go see the wounded troops. Simple, but too complicated for the village idiot known as Obama.

[Spartan112]

"Any response, liars?"

You know chris/Boob, Spartan, Moe, DeBakey, as well as yourself, won't respond to these kinds of stories.

My question to you, dufus, is why the Obama just didn't leave the general and go see the wounded troops. Simple, but too complicated for the village idiot known as Obama.

Ummm...why would we respond to a story that supports our point of view? Obama had been to see wounded troops at both Walter Reed and in Iraq, but was worried about this instance being used politically (surprise, it was anyway).

McSame is on the record as saying he was against using troops politically, here he is doing it...is that a flip flop or a lie?

[Worst President Ever]

Anybody know the last time President Bush visited Landstuhl? I think Laura may have been there.

[SacTownMan]

President Carter asks;

"Anybody know the last time President Bush visited Landstuhl? I think Laura may have been there."

Begs the question, does anybody know when the last time Barry was at the Salem witch trials? I think Michelle may have been there.

[seekeronos]

"---

"And since my "Membership Card" is with the Constitution Party, I really don't think that is in any danger of getting yanked."

Do they meet in your basement?

---"

We meet at rather nice (if not somewhat ironically) Mexican restaurant in a town central to where many of us live. Great conversations over beer and quesadillas and other yummies, discussing our "plots" to restore America back to her conservative, Constitutionalist roots.

As for the Unitarian-Universalists (hereinafter: UU and UUs), what they are now is not necessarily what they were in the 1850s or in the late 18th century.

In fact, the UU Church was born of a fusion between the Unitarians and the Universalists in 1961. They have evolved into a theologically liberal religion that in essence, is a hodge-podge of all sorts of other religions.

A sort of a "cafeteria religion" that is hardly Christian anymore. According to the Wiki:

"--- Although Unitarian Universalist congregations and fellowships tend to retain some Christian traditions, such as Sunday worship with a sermon and the singing of hymns, they do not necessarily identify themselves as Christians nor do they necessarily subscribe to Christian beliefs. The extent to which the elements of any particular faith tradition are incorporated into one's personal spiritual practices is a matter of personal choice in keeping with Unitarian Universalism's creedless, non-dogmatic approach to spirituality and faith development. ---"

This is different from Biblical, fundamental Christianity which stays doctrinally obedient to the Word of God.

The constituent religions of the UU faith can be summed us thus:

Universalism: "All are One in God" - that God will not condemn any to Hell, even people ordinarily considered by most other denominations to be "reprobate" (incorrigibly evil, perhaps like Charles Manson)

Unitarianism: "There is one/no/many God(s)" i.e. no Trinity, embraces the Nestorian/Arian heresies of Jesus being "a mere moral mortal" and later when combined into UU, allows for open definitions of who God is

And the Founding Fathers came from many Christian traditions. Many were Deists who had broken away by various degrees from the Church of England (what later became the Episcopalian Church), some were Calvinists and Baptists, others were many other denominations.

And I won't discount that there have been some good works resulting from the UUs, but good works are not what saves a person from hellfire.

It is the Jesus who they discount from His rightful place as the Co-Eternal Son of God who is one in the same being as the Father and the Holy Spirit.

[seekeronos]

"--- "Any response, liars?" ---"

Um, all part of the perpetual rain of "Bravo Sierra" that attends any presidential election year?

Though if you ask me, both McCain AND Obama are unfit for the job.

[Spartan112]

"We meet at rather nice (if not somewhat ironically) Mexican restaurant in a town central to where many of us live. Great conversations over beer and quesadillas and other yummies, discussing our "plots" to restore America back to her conservative, Constitutionalist roots."

Trying to spot illegals?

[Spartan112]

Oh, and I know plenty about the UU church. I was married in one by a lesbian minister and when I did attend church it was a UU church. My parents met at First Parish Cambridge and to say that todays church bears little resemblance to the church that led the abolitionist movement is either foolhardy or a lie, your choice. Ever since the Unitarians took over First Parish in the early 1800's it has been viewed a a very liberal church.

[bobInStamford]

I'm guessing those 'Constitutionalists' are crappy tippers and, consequently get extra sauce in their nachos.

[Spartan112]

"I'm guessing those 'Constitutionalists' are crappy tippers and, consequently get extra sauce in their nachos."

Someone tell Sen. Craig to stop hogging the queso!

[Spartan112]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/07/27/2008-07-27_injured_vets_tell_pull_dick_cheney_invit.html

Ooops...why does Dick Cheney hate our wounded troops?

[seekeronos]

"--- Trying to spot illegals? ---"

Nah, if I wanted to do that, I'd head down to the local WalMart, or perhaps head over to a housing construction site (those sites still exist, and are surprisingly still worked on, albeit at a much slower pace)

In the Denver housing boom of the early 90's, I was a part owner in a construction company. One of our subcontractors pulled a bit of a joke and had a half dozen of their framers wearing dark suits from another site show up with black SUV with one of them shouting things in Spanish over a megaphone to the effect that they were going to deport the swarms of Mexican labourers that were with the various other contractors.

Though I'm sure that the illegals didn't like it, as you could hear them panicking and shouting "La Migra! La Migra!" before dispersing off the site. They came back the next day, but not having to hear that blamed mariachi music blaring all over the place for one afternoon was a blessing.

[seekeronos]

"--- I'm guessing those 'Constitutionalists' are crappy tippers... ---"

I can only speak for myself, as I don't make a habit of spying out other peoples' tipping habits: though I am probably considered to be a penny pincher in a great many things, I try to leave a fair tip.

I'm sure waiting tables is not very fun when measured against the non-tip wages they get.

[seekeronos]

"--- Sen. Craig ---"

I can safely say that he is not very highly thought of in the CP, especially after his "wide stance" issues. that, and he is of the GOP and with them, has been an abettor of most of the 109th Congress's series of travesties that gave Bush too much leeway to wreck the nation.

But I hear he is running for something with Obama - quite a nifty gag, that Obama/Craig button.

http://www.buttonblogger.com/barack-obama-larry-craig/51/

[seekeronos]

"--- Cheney has visited hospitalized wounded warriors and invited Walter Reed Army Medical Center patients for fly-fishing lessons around his swimming pool. ---"

That's right nice of him.

I just hope that he doesn't offer to give them hunting lessons.

[seekeronos]

Last reply for now... heh heh...

"--- Oh, and I know plenty about the UU church. I was married in one by a lesbian minister and when I did attend church it was a UU church. ---"

No disrespect, but I'd say that any church that sports a lesbian minister is a very large, neon-glowingly bad sign that it is very far from the Bible or any sound Christ-centred doctrine. But it is a match made for liberals and left-wingers indeed. I can see why you felt at home there.

"--- My parents met at First Parish Cambridge and to say that todays church bears little resemblance to the church that led the abolitionist movement is either foolhardy or a lie, your choice. Ever since the Unitarians took over First Parish in the early 1800's it has been viewed a a very liberal church. ---"

I'll take "foolhardy" for 500 points, Alex.

By the standards of the 1850s, we could reasonably argue that the Unitarians were well on their way to being the heretical sect they are today. Certainly they were politically liberal (as were many of the ideas that would later form the backbone of the then soon-to-be Republicans)

But they were still arguably closer to the Bible than they are today (i.e. they probably did not openly ordain LGBT ministers or marry off LGBT couples in the 1850s) and were somewhat less "open" to the sort of cafeteria religiosity they know today as UUs.

[Spartan112]

"No disrespect, but I'd say that any church that sports a lesbian minister is a very large, neon-glowingly bad sign that it is very far from the Bible or any sound Christ-centred doctrine."

I would argue just the opposite. Aren't we all sinners in the eyes of god?

[seekeronos]

"--- I would argue just the opposite. Aren't we all sinners in the eyes of god? ---"

Yes, all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23, paraphrased)

However, grace is not a license to continue in sin.

Your lesbian minister is in sin if she continues to practice her lesbianism. That in and of itself seems to be sufficient to bar her from any ministry, as homosexuality is a grievous sin.

Now, you might try to be sneaky here and say that "minister" means just to serve as a servant of Christ without any respect to formal ordination, but you did say that she married you and your significant other.

That she presided over your exchange of vows also implies that she is/was ordained into minister's office akin to a pastor or priest. Presiding over a marriage is not typically within the duties of a deacon(ess).

The Bible forbids women from pastoring or leading a church, or being an elder or being in authority over the men of the church (but not necessarily from serving as deaconesses).

Therefore, her office is in contradiction to the word of God.

[Spartan112]

The bible was written by men...small wonder they didn't want to give women any power.

[Worst President Ever]

Looks like the whole "Obama snubbed the troops" was BS made up by McCain. Looks like the "Straight Talk Express" is really the BS Express.

For four days, Sen. John McCain and his allies have accused Sen. Barack Obama of snubbing wounded soldiers by canceling a visit to a military hospital because he could not take reporters with him, despite no evidence that the charge is true.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/29/AR2008072902286.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/snubbing_wounded_troops.html