Is Obama's Campaign Spinning Out Of Control?

Either this is a trial blimp destined to crash and burn in the infield, or Obama needs to apply the brakes to some folks in his campaign. The media-anointed one is going all NASCAR on us? My God!

I wonder, will Obie wear a fire-suit to the presser? Given his constant wrong turns when not being steered by a teleprompter, I can't imagine him wanting to cruise into this potential third turn wreck. Wait until some speed journalist asks him what he thinks about the legacy of King Richard.

"Unfortunately I haven't had enough time to truly reflect upon the wonders of Shakespeare recently given the demands of the campaign," responded the candidate.

SI.com has learned that for the first time in history, a major presidential candidate may sponsor a race car in NASCAR's premier series. According to sources, Barack Obama's campaign is in talks to become the primary sponsor of BAM Racing's No. 49 Sprint Cup car for the Pocono race on August 3. Details of the agreement are expected to be worked out over the coming days.

A BAM spokesperson has revealed the team will hold a press conference July 23 in Miami to reveal the partnership, currently a proposed one-race deal with an option to continue. Obama will be at the briefing, which will be tied to the "Get Out The Vote" campaign message he spread throughout the 2008 primary season.

Comments

[BobInStamford]

It's sad that in order to become president you have to lower yourselves to the level of nascar fans. That's as low as it gets.

[Mr DeBakey]

"will Obie wear a fire-suit to the presser?"

Maybe he can just borrow Bush's Jet-Fighter-Pilot suit.
Not exactly the same, but still pretty cool.
Only used once!

"Tont Stewart? Bring 'im on!"

[Susan]

No, Boobie in Stamford. He could get down to your level....and that is really low. Oh, that's right....the Obamessiah is on your level.

[Fred Beloit]

Boob and Debake, did you two mutts see these? Shocking.

"Seriously, though. If churches don't want their magic bread crumbs getting desecrated, perhaps they should stop handing them out."

Moe's suggested policy for the Gitmo inmates is, if Moslims don't want their Korans desecrated, they should stop leaving them lying around.

Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, July 11, 2008 at 04:44 PM

Wow, wow, wowie, wow. Extra, extra read all about it: ISLAMOMOE IS OK WITH DESECRATING RELIGIOUS OBJECTS. This is great. Ok, Gitmo guards, let's start smearing those Korans with bacon slices and jamming them down toilets. Moe calls open season on religious disrespect.

Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, July 11, 2008 at 04:39 PM"

[Susan]

I have a better idea for a suit, Mr. DeBakey. Maybe he'll wear John Kerry's blue bunny suit he wore at NASA. Only worn once, but once was enough. lol

[BobInStamford]

This is the worst news for rednecks since Dale Earnhardt hit the wall at Daytona!!

The Intimidator will live forever, patriots!!!!

[Susan]

Boobie in Stamford, I was right. You are on the lowest level. You have to look up at a flea. To make fun of a person's death, is beyond the pale. You are totally pathetic. I'd rather be a redneck than a black heart.

[IslamoLlama]

IM IN UR BASE, STEAL'N UR VOTRS!
Obamacons for Obama!

Haha, you guys are so boned.

[seekeronos]

"--- Obamacons for Obama!

Haha, you guys are so boned. ---"

Perhaps so, but it isn't for a lack of completely lacklustre major party candidates.

It is so bad, our enslavement to the two party system, that even stalwart (paleo) conservatives would consider a Marxist like Obama a beter choice than anything the (R)s have to offer.

They should be supporting a solid Constitutionalist after the fashion of Dr. Ron Paul, such as Dr. Chuck Baldwin, or maybe Bob Barr.

[bobInStamford]

Dr. Chuck Baldwin??? Mickey Mouse 'divinity' degrees from Bible Colleges don't really count. Chuck should tell people he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, he'd sound more credible.

[shockwave]

Looks like the Obama is getting desperate as his lead continues to shrink. Or maybe he has decided to leave the nutroots and connect with some people who have some sense. He has been moving more and more to the right in recent weeks. He's repudiated the racist Wright, and is distancing himself from the wingnuts on the Left. He has decided to leave troops in Iraq as long as neccessary to prevent al-Queda from regrouping. The man is beginning to think just like me. You nutroots had better start looking for ways to be satisfied with a moderate in the White House. You better call the waaaammm...bu...lance, hahaha!

[edward cropper]

check out Obama in his NASCAR duds on my website

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Perhaps so, but it isn't for a lack of completely lacklustre major party candidates. --"

Hey, I'm with you there. Huckabee was at least engaging. Ron Paul had all the solid policy positions. Even Gulliani brought passion to the table. They all got kicked to the curb, though. Bush, at the very least, knew how to galvanize his audience.

"-- Looks like the Obama is getting desperate as his lead continues to shrink. --"

I can't wait till November.

"Obama only won by 20 points? You suck, Democrats! Better luck next cycle! Ha!"

http://www.pollster.com/08-US-Pres-GE-MvO.php <--- ZOMG! What an incredible shrinking lead!

[Worst President Ever]

McCain's week was terrible. You really can't describe how stupid the stuff they did this week was.

He called Social Security a disgrace, then backpedaled. And adviser Phil Gramm literally insulted 10's of millions of Americans by calling them whiners and saying the economic downturn is a case of "mental recession". Truly brilliant. McCain then backpedaled on that too. And he had a major shakeup in his campaign staff.

Hint: Disparaging one of the most popular programs in the country, then insulting anyone that's not rich and sailing through the downturn ain't good politics.

[bobInStamford]

The Gay Old Party really cracks me up!

http://wonkette.com/401018/anti-gay-alabama-attorney-general-caught-being-gay

Semper Homo, patriots!!!

[shockwave]

Here's something for you to ponder, worst whatever, despite all the gaffes made by McCain's people, McCain still gained ground on the Obama. The race is approaching the even mark now, according to some of the latest polls. Obama leads by 2.0 in the Rasmussan Poll and 3.0 in the Newsweek poll, both numbers within the range of error.

That tells me a lot about the strength of your candidate. Or more accurately, his lack thereof. LOL!

You liberals are likely going to have a real whinefest this November. I can't wait..a whinefestival like no other!

[joeb]

I have been reading stories for the last week or so about baby boomers being whiners and complainers. I guess old Phil knew what he was talking about. Did it start with Phil Donahue? Did it continue with Oprah and go on with Dr. Phil. So many victims so much time to whine and complain. No wonder "The Greatest Generation" thinks the baby boomers are soft.

[Concerned Citizen]

Obama: more hype than real hope

[seekeronos]

"--- Dr. Chuck Baldwin??? Mickey Mouse 'divinity' degrees from Bible Colleges don't really count. ---"

Well, perhaps not to you they don't. But Dr. Baldwin's qualifications as a preacher and as a man of God are unimpeachable. God calls us as sinners, then saves us and sanctifies us, and then qualifies us for every good work He has prepared for us.

And while Dr. Baldwin's chances of even picking up 0.001% of the vote are slim due to the choke-hold the two-party system has on this country's politics... I'll still support him on principle, and because the other candidates (McCain, Obama, and anything the Greens have to offer) aren't fit to be janitors in the White House, much less President of all of these United States.

[seekeronos]

Ah, the generation gaps.

There's a nifty book called the "Fourth Turning", a sequel to "Generations", by William Strauss and Neil Howe, that discusses the roles each generation plays... but I have my own take on it.

There are five generations in the 20th- and early 21st- centuries worth discussing:

1880s - 1900s "The Lost Generation". Members include FDR, Hitler, Tojo, Stalin, people who children during the close of the Victorian and Edwardian eras, fought WW1 as young adults and then recaptured some of their lost youth in the Roaring 20's, and parented the Greatest Generation and Silent Generation. They were shaped by their parents who were of the "missionary generation", which I won't discuss at length, but were responsible for much of the strong moral character and faith of the Lost Generation. However, the harsh realities of WW1 and a certain dumbing down of faith that began in the 1920s (and was nearly destroyed in Europe) would sew seeds of materialism - which would reap an awful harvest a few generations later.

1905ish - 1920s "The Greatest Generation." Famous members: Dr. Spock, Ronald Reagan, JFK... Children of the Great Depression, Fighters of WW2. They learned the lessons of self-sacrifice and doing without, and returned home with a heartfelt desire to provide their children with a better childhood - and perhaps a future - than they had. Though remembered and lionized (and perhaps rightly so) for their can-do-give-it-all attitude that asked what they could do for their country foremost, they were also sinners and prone to err. For even as they were raised somewhat less strictly than their parents had been, when they bore children, they were yet even more permissive, thanks in no small measure to Dr. Spock's teachings. Faith still had strong roots, but faith without discipline becomes a practice which some would later look at as vain and devoid of power. Moreover, it is on their watch as elders that America slipped away from her moorings in God's Word, and the Old Right finally and completely marginalized (a process that had started when FDR forced the nation into war) these events would set the stage for a selfishness and godlessness that would spell the ruination of the futures for the children that the Greatest Generation had fought so hard for.

1925 - 1944 "The Silent Generation". Famous Members: Fred Thompson, Ron Paul, John McCain, Jesse Jackson. Hard to shoehorn these folks who were too young for WW2 and largely too old for Vietnam. Parented by the Lost Generation, and have mixed some of the values of the elder Greatest Generation, but tending toward the liberalness of the Baby Boomers who followed them. With the passing of most of the Greatest Generation, the Silents who remain are entering eldership, and with it, the senior offices and leadership of the nation.

1945 - 1965 "The Baby Boomers". The most famous and largest demographic, and the generation around which all others have been made to revolve around. Many fought in Vietnam, and the leading edge of this generation is also in positions of senior leadership. Characteristics include an unprecedented level of acquisitiveness and greed, an odd sort of reaction to the radicalism many of them espoused as youth, a small degree of which some overly-puffed and self-styled "elites" keep. They now enjoy the fruit of having been the "centre of the universe" for over forty years, and rule with impunity in the senior management of the media, academia, and politics. What is troubling for this generation is the possibility that the financial bed that they have made might be one that even they may one day lay in, although the greater bearers of the burden of their irresponsibility may best be summed up by the snarky yet accurate T-shirt wit of "I'm spending my kids' inheritance".

1960s - 1980s "Generation X" Children of the Boomers and Silents, they are the "latchkey kids" and slackers who are mostly utterly godless, and have no sense of morality, due to the general lack of both moral instruction and discipline. It is of this generation that atheism, homosexuality, and complete moral relativism - the circle of worship of self is completed. They will also inherit the bankruptcy of most if not all of the various social safety nets put into place by their parents and grandparents. Yet all is not lost for the X'ers: they will learn to save more money and be more frugal and conscious of their environment, and be more willing to act for change instead of kvetching about it than their parents.

1980s-2000s "Millennials/Generation Y" Children of late Boomers and X'ers. Kind of early to say what will become of these kids; they may grow up knowing dire economic circumstances that may shape them as much as the Great Depression once helped to shape the Greatest Generation. They may or may not find a moral compass once lost to their parents and grandparents. Strauss & Howe indicate that this may be a "heroic" generation.

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Shorter version: We are really messing things up for this world. We need Jesus to help set us right, no matter what generation we belong to.

[Spartan112]

Could be worse I suppose...he could be having little old librarians forcibly removed from public events...what kind of a-hole would do something like that? Oh that's right, a republican a-hole.

[Anne]

It's over

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/07/11/2008-07-11_barack_obama_nixes_deal_to_sponsor_car_i.html

[Scrapiron]

Looks like Hussein's NASCAR deal is in as much trouble as his campaign. Falling through the cracks, or is that into the black hole of space (now a racist term)?

I see we have another 'dead inside' democrat commenting. Hey Bob, get a life and you won't be so bitter. Really, how does it feel to be totally dead inside and still breathing, anything like people describe a near death experience? Oh that's right, you have to come back to life to find out and you haven't made the transition yet. Another of America's liberal whiners had identified himself. There is no place that you can spend a 4 day weekend and enjoy yourself other than a 'NASCAR' track. No snootie Gray Poupon, Argula lettuce eating liberals need apply. NASCAR is doing fine with the real 'Patroitic Americans' who follow the races week to week.

[joeb]

Seek: Didn't you know that Obama is the new Jesus? Didn't the real Jesus look like Obama?
By the way what you call the Silent Generation I call War Babies. I was born in 1940 and we were called War Babies. The Baby Boomers started in 1946.
Watch out for the kids born around and after 2000. They are really going to be something around 2020.

[Scrapiron]

Concerned Citizen, Hussein has high 'hope' that no one notices the 'change' in positions he takes every day. He could put on a flip flop circus all by himself. I notice loud mouth racist Michelle is kind of quiet lately. Did she hear the whine of the bus tires and figure she was next to hit the pavement under them.
Found another whiner on here, he identified himself in his comment as an AHole. Just look for that word and you've found him.

[Scrapiron]

Worst President Ever, show me a liberal, including youself, that isn't a whiner. Graham was 100% correct in his remark. All a 'dead inside' democrat has left is the whine.

[Fred Beloit]

Mr Ever wrote: "McCain's week was terrible. You really can't describe how stupid the stuff they did this week was."

Ever starts with one person, McCain, and then slides to "they". This is a peek at the iceberg of a careless mind. At any rate McCain will be elected not because he is a good candidate but because Obama is such an unqualified one. A president of the United States who doesn't know how many states are united? I don't think so.

[Fred Beloit]

Oh no. Anne brings us the bad news. Now we won't get to hear Obama's profound message to the NASCAR community: "Change you can believe in. Change the awl, change the tahrs."

[BobInStamford]

It appears that Scrapiron is an offended nascar fan. Real shocker there!

"No snootie Gray Poupon, Argula lettuce eating liberals need apply. NASCAR is doing fine with the real 'Patroitic Americans' who follow the races week to week."

'Gray Poupon'? 'Argula'. Did you ever get out of 3rd grade?????

[Worst President Ever]

Scrapiorn: It's Gramm, not Graham. I'm all Senator Gramm continuing to call Americans whiners and victims of not a recession but a "mental recession". I think it's a wonderful campaign tactic for McSame to follow.

Imagine if it had been Obama that said that. Scrapiron would be yellig ELITIST, ELITIST. But it's okay when it's a millionair former republican Senator who, along with wife Wendy, has made millions of dollar sucking at the coporate teat.

[Anne]

Libruls are very fixated on teats I notice. I guess they miss their mommies.

[Fred Beloit]

Sen Schumer, it appears, needs a new nickname:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2008/07/feds-cite-schum.html

"Here's from the press release issued by IndyMac's regulator, the Office of Thrift Supervision: "The OTS has determined that the current institution, IndyMac Bank, is unlikely to be able to meet continued depositors’ demands in the normal course of business and is therefore in an unsafe and unsound condition. The immediate cause of the closing was a deposit run that began and continued after the public release of a June 26 letter to the OTS and the FDIC from Senator Charles Schumer of New York. The letter expressed concerns about IndyMac’s viability. In the following 11 business days, depositors withdrew more than $1.3 billion from their accounts."

I suggest The Closer.

[Fred Beloit]

It is only $100K. What's that next to charisma. While an Illinois state Senator, Obama gave this Illinois state money to a man to build a garden on Chicago's South Side.

"Instead, what was supposed to be a six-block stretch of trees and paths is now a field of unfulfilled dreams, strewn with weeds, garbage and broken pavement."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1050869,CST-NWS-garden11.article

[Worst President Ever]

The powers of Senator Schumer must truly be super-human. Able to close banks with a single word!

But Fred, you sound a bit like a whiner. And how can a bank fail when we're not really in a recession - it's just a "mental recession"?

You should turn you powers to Iraq - #100,000 is chickenfeed over there. We don't even hear about wasted Iraq dollars until they hit the billions. And there's a boatload of broken promises over there.

[Concerned Citizen]

Obama is ducking debates again!

excerpt from the comments section at noquarterusa.net:

A coalition of military groups is planning a nationally televised town-hall-style meeting with the presidential candidates near Fort Hood, Tex., the largest active-duty military installation in the country. But so far, only Senator John McCain of Arizona, the presumptive Republican nominee, has agreed to attend.

CBS has agreed to broadcast the meeting live from 9 to 11 p.m. Eastern time on Monday, Aug. 11. The candidates would face questions directly from an audience of 6,000 people, made up of veterans, service members and military families from the base.

Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has not agreed to participate.

[Fred Beloit]

Mr Ever: "You should turn you powers to Iraq - #100,000 is chickenfeed over there. We don't even hear about wasted Iraq dollars until they hit the billions. And there's a boatload of broken promises over there."

Mr Ever is highly criitcal of the present Dem-majority Congress, which for two years has approved spending on Iraq. Mr Ever is not alone. According to one benchmark poll, 91% of Americans agree Congress is doing a poor job.

[Fred Beloit]

Mr Ever: "The powers of Senator Schumer must truly be super-human. Able to close banks with a single word!"

Well, the story I cited says "a letter", not "a single word". It seems Mr Ever is not the most careful of readers.

[Worst President Ever]

Well Fred, if you want to be a stickler for facts, the Dems haven't controlled the House for two years. More like 18 months, but for you, that's pretty damm accurate. Close counts in hand grenades, horse shoes and Fred posts.

No Fred, most of that money was lost before the Dems took over congress. And even then, it's Bush running the war, not the Dems.

As for the unpopularity of Congress, I'll bet you the Dems pick up seats in both houses in November. Because in the unpopularity contest, Republians win hands down.

Lets go to the tape. Remember Reagan asking: Are you better off now than you were four (eight in this case) years ago?

Obviously today any American that answers "no" is a whining, mental case.

[shockwave]

Worst, no comment on the latest polls, huh? Didn't think so. A bad week for McCain turned into a nightmare for the Obama, who would have guessed it? And now, Obama is too much of a chicken shit to speak to the troops. I wonder who he thinks is going to protect his pompous ass if he becomes President, GENERAL WESLEY CLARK? What a laugher! Irony...irony...irony...it's everywhere these days.

[Fred Beloit]

Mr Ever: "...the Dems haven't controlled the House for two years. More like 18 months..."

Again: "No Fred, most of that money was lost before the Dems took over congress. And even then, it's Bush running the war, not the Dems."

Mr Ever is trying to pull a fast one. He implies no Dems in Congress supported the war before they became the majority. This is a patent falsehood. Mr Ever is a sly fox. Like cheap Mid Atlantic wine, he leaves a foxy taste in the mouth and a foxy smell in the nostrils.

"Friday, October 11, 2002 Posted: 12:35 PM EDT (1635 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.

Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133.

The president praised the congressional action, declaring "America speaks with one voice."

AND

"The Senate vote sharply divided Democrats, with 29 voting for the measure and 21 against. All Republicans except Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island voted for passage.

Ahead of the vote, Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle announced Thursday morning he would support Bush on Iraq, saying it is important for the country "to speak with one voice."

[Islamollama]

"-- Mr Ever is trying to pull a fast one. He implies no Dems in Congress supported the war before they became the majority. This is a patent falsehood. Mr Ever is a sly fox. Like cheap Mid Atlantic wine, he leaves a foxy taste in the mouth and a foxy smell in the nostrils. --"

Ah yes. Classic wingnut logic. If one Democrat supports the war, they all do. If Bill Nelson votes in support of the war, then Ted Kennedy has been for it from the very start. Ergo, Democrats are hypocrites, and the war should continue indefinitely (read: until we "win").

If I remember correctly 28 Senators voted against the war in 2003. All of them were Democrats. The House and the Senate have repeatedly passed legislation designed to end the war. This legislation has been filibustered, obstructed, and vetoed by Republican Minorities in both Houses of Congress and the Senate. Given that Senate legislation the GOP doesn't want passed needs 11 non-Democrat defectors, any legislation to end the war needs a good 9-11 GOoPers to sign on to it. Then, when the President vetoes it, the Senate will need 6 more GOoPers to support anti-war legislation. And that's before legislation reaches the House, where we will need dozens more GOP defectors.

But you know all this. I know all this. We are both aware of the anti-war legislation that struggled and died in Congress in 2007. And we are both aware of how incredibly unpopular this war has become regardless of how many times the President or the wingnut media announces we're "winning".

So this is largely a conversation built on dishonesty. The only anti-war Senators (and for a very large part, the only anti-war House Reps) are Democrats. Again, you know that. I know that. And yet we continue to play this game where you doggedly insist The Iraq War, which you whole-heartedly continue to support, is also supported by the majority of Democratic Legislators, whom you whole-heartedly oppose.

I'm not even sure what you're point is, at the end of the day, except to staunchly defend your vote for Republican wankers at the ballot box. This whole conversation seems to be nothing more than your fit of apologetics for your continued GOP votes. But we know why you vote GOP, Fred. For starters, you're a giant racist who regularly disrespects and fears individuals based entirely on their skin color. The GOP is composed of people primarily of your skin color, so you vote for them. What's more, you're pro-aristocracy, and whole-heartedly support rich people paying lower tax rates than poor people, as can be seen with your staunch defense of the 15% Capital Gains tax. Even a generic flat tax would be saner, but that doesn't stop you from defending the most aggressive class-warfare maneuver of this generation. Whether you defend ridiculous tax systems because you are rich yourself or because you're just an idiot, is anybody's guess. But more importantly than all of that, you're a staunch GOoPer because you are a pussy. Too afraid of change, you cling to the myth of a 1950s America that never existed and never will. Trapped in a Leave It To Beaver fantasy land, you vote GOP because they don't address problems that scare you. And if they don't address problems that scare you, than maybe those problems will go away.

So really, please don't attempt to dissect politics any further until you've changed into a fresh set of pants. Then perhaps we can have a reasonable, fact-based discussion.

[Worst President Ever]

Come on Fred - answer Saint Reagan's qestion:

Are you better off now than you were four (eight in this case) years ago?

[shockwave]

Typical bullshit from the Lame One. You're a racist, Fred...wah..wah..wah! Cause you don't vote Democratic..whine..whine..whine. You don't know how Congress works, cause 28 Democratic Senators voted against the war...and wait...there were more than 28 Democratic Senators, like way more...oh, shit, I gotta lie some more...and blah, and whine..and whine.

And Lame shit head, let me give you a lesson in politics. The Democrats control both houses of Congress. They can stop any legislation that supports the war. It takes the support of Democrats to keep the war in Iraq going. If only 41 Senators filibustered any bill, they could stop it. You're just another lying little nutroot bastard. Liar and whiner, that's what you are, LameO.

[seekeronos]

Too much partisanship from both parties, and unwillingness to do what is correct.

This is why in two or three more election cycles, we may see the Constitution Party and Libertarian Party seat more and more people in many statehouses and in Congress, or why we may see the GOP begin its painful return back to the policies that are time-tested and sound, the policies of Ron Paul, Barry Goldwater, Cal Coolidge, and Robert Taft.

It is long since time Americans woke up and began to break the chain of incompetence binding up this great Republic to the the stupidity of the Democratic Jackass and the lameness of a diseased Elephant.

[Fred Beloit]

Mr Ever: " Come on Fred - answer Saint Reagan's qestion:
Are you better off now than you were four (eight in this case) years ago?
Posted by: Worst President Ever | Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 07:38 PM"

Answer: God yes. I put more than 1000 miles between the Boob and me in 2004. Moved from high-tax Connecticut, where the electorate keeps returning Chris (gimme a cheap mortgage and I'll take care of you) Dodd to the Senate, to Florida. You bet I'm better off.

Let me ask you something Mr Ever. What has the government got to do with whether I'm better off or not, Reagan or no Reagan?

[Fred Beloit]

Simple answer to Moe's diatribe, which attempts to divert attention from the issue of whose war Iraq is by calling me a racist and using other Moeian insults:

""Friday, October 11, 2002 Posted: 12:35 PM EDT (1635 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.

Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133.

The president praised the congressional action, declaring "America speaks with one voice."

AND

"The Senate vote sharply divided Democrats, with 29 voting for the measure and 21 against. All Republicans except Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island voted for passage.

Ahead of the vote, Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle announced Thursday morning he would support Bush on Iraq, saying it is important for the country "to speak with one voice."

Tom Daschle said it best. Iraq isn't "Bush's War", it is one of America's wars. America spoke with one voice, except for the lunatic fringe exemplified by Moe.

[Fred Beloit]

I hereby propose Edward Markey, Dem/Mass, for the prestigious Pinhead of the Week Award for this intellectually powerful interpretation of recent history:

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=32291

[Anne]

Harvard professor thinks we're endangering ourselves by having guns. I nominate him as pinhead #2.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/is_buying_a_gun_a_suicidal_act.html

[seekeronos]

"--- Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133. ---"

Fred mentioned that the only (R) in the Senate to vote against the AUMF-Iraq-2002 was the ultra-liberal Lincoln Chaffee, now an Independent.

But perhaps even more noteworthy are the six (R) Representatives who voted against the House version of the AUMF-2002:

Reps. Duncan (R-TN) - a noteworthy paleoconservative

Hostettler (R-IN)
Houghton (R-NY)
Leach (R-IA)
Morella (R-MD)
Paul (R-TX) - a noteworthy paleoconservative

[Fred Beloit]

Well, Anne, you certainly identified a worthy candidate. Whenever I notice my little Warthog, it says to me, "Hey, you, when you gonna use me to shoot yourself. Huh? When?" Ah the siren call of well-tooled metal.