The Left is going bonkers over another comment by Don Imus. And I'm disappointed to see that even some conservative blogs are weighing in without any real perspective at all. One of Imus's fairly consistent themes is that police regularly stop and or arrest blacks more often than whites - particularly in the South and Southwest. The explanation offered by Imus, that that's what he meant, makes perfect sense.
If Libertarians and even conservatives fail to defend him by pointing out that context, they're just caving in to a hyper-politically correct mentality in media that could result in hardly anything being able to be said without fear of being attacked on similar grounds. Or are we there, already?
It's beginning to look as though there's no such thing as free speech left in American entertainment media unless you stick to the late Carlin's seven dirty words. Now ain't that a revoltin' development?
During the show, conversation turned to a story about how suspended Dallas Cowboys cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones now wants to drop his well-known nickname. In the course of the segment, Imus is told that Jones has “been arrested six times since being drafted by Tennessee in 2005.”
Imus asks: “What color is he?”
“He’s African-American,” the host is informed by one of his on-air sidekicks.
And so it appears that "actors" rather, people who pretend to be actors don't make quite enough money from the working stiffs who consume their "product". You likely know that some of these talentless slobs only make 15 million for 6-8 months work. But George Clooney is trying to avoid an 'actor walkout'. Who gives a crap about the folks behind the scenes look out for $10.00 tickets to the movies........And even more wonderfully entertaining television.........
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 06:18 PM
Fascinating logic. So, because McSame isn't as brain-dead as Bonzo's sidekick, he's qualified for the presidency? That doesn't cut it. Let's thank Granps for his service and the fact that he's aware of the internet and call it a day. He's looking downright foolish at this point. We've had 8 years of embarrassment from the idiot currently in the job - we don't need any more.
Posted by: BobInStamford | Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 07:51 PM
"--- ...Let's thank Granps (sic) for his service and the fact that he's aware of the internet and call it a day. He's looking downright foolish at this point. We've had 8 years of embarrassment from the idiot currently in the job - we don't need any more. ---"
Wow! Once in a blue moon, Bob proves himself capable of more than merely belching up random, generally offensive one-liners.
Nevertheless, he has fallen into Moonbat McDS/BDS talking points #1 (McSame = Bush 3) and #3 (too old) ever so predictably.
Posted by: seekeronos | Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 08:42 PM
what white people like . com
number 62
White people spend a lot of time of worrying about poor people. It takes up a pretty significant portion of their day.
They feel guilty and sad that poor people shop at Wal*Mart instead of Whole Foods, that they vote Republican instead of Democratic, that they go to Community College/get a job instead of studying art at a University.
It is a poorly guarded secret that, deep down, white people believe if given money and education that all poor people would be EXACTLY like them. In fact, the only reason that poor people make the choices they do is because they have not been given the means to make the right choices and care about the right things.
A great way to make white people feel good is to tell them about situations where poor people changed how they were doing things because they were given the ‘whiter’ option. “Back in my old town, people used to shop at Wal*Mart and then this non-profit organization came in and set up a special farmers co-op so that we could buy more local produce, and within two weeks the Wal*Mart shut down and we elected our first Democratic representative in 40 years.” White people will first ask which non-profit and are they hiring? After that, they will be filled with euphoria and will invite you to more parties to tell this story to their friends, so that they can feel great.
But it is ESSENTIAL that you reassert that poor people do not make decisions based on free will. That news could crush white people and their hope for the future.
Posted by: Anne | Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Anne, your post was very helpful though incomplete putting white guilt on the shoulders of "all" white people. See, truth is that is exactly how progressive white folks "feel".....that if we just throw enough money at them (mostly by taxing success), just dumb down the schools enough then standing on the corner drinking from a brown paper bag will pay the same as Bill Gates really SHOULD be allowed to make.
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 07:05 AM
Good thing for you patriots that gas is cheap and the economy is doing 'just fine'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1X3efvVTLA
4 more years, heroes!!!
Posted by: BobInStamford | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 07:08 AM
I gave the wrong site - it is www.stuffwhitepeoplelike.com
Posted by: Anne | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 08:13 AM
"Good thing for you patriots that gas is cheap and the economy is doing 'just fine'."
Yeah, gas is a tad high (thanks green weenies and their congressional puppets) I hear the economy is a bit depressed in a few places...maybe that's a little sad for those folks, but not everyone can live here...let's throw some money at them and maybe they'll stop whining.
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 09:04 AM
LOL Anne:Winner #4 should definately go to Pookie the LLama...in fact should have been titled "Savior Faire the imitation LLama"
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 09:10 AM
"-- I gave the wrong site - it is www.stuffwhitepeoplelike.com --"
Hehe. I love that site. Solidly complemented by http://www.asian-central.com/stuffasianpeoplelike/
Posted by: IslamoLlama | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 11:47 AM
"mostly by taxing success"
Obviously, we should be taxing failure - damn those progressive taxes. Problem is, failures don't usually have a lot of money. But fortunately, President Bush has seen the light about throwing money at Education. After all, we all know the only place more money does any good is in the hands of the Defense Department and the Rich.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Bush+education+cuts&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Posted by: Worst President Ever | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM
"-- I rather doubt that, unless Americans have completely given up any desire to think for themselves as well as desire liberty over government interventionism. --"
It is precisely because people think for themselves that they are abandoning lockstep conservative ideology. If, as you so claim, Americans gave up on the desire to think for themselves, then either the Republican Revolution of '94 or the Democratic Revolution of '06 never would have happened. People would have just continued to pound the "incumbent" feed bar and tuned out the world around them.
Opinions have changed and philosophies have evolved. The Dirty Fucking Hippies who opposed so many of the disastrous Bush policies back in 2000 aren't looking so crazy and naive anymore. The peaceniks who protested the war in '03 and '04 have built up a substantially larger audience as the society at large have gained wisdom over time. Rising gas prices and insurance premiums, combined with falling employment and fading domestic markets, expose Coolidge-style deregulation and head-in-the-sand economic policy as the bad idea that it is.
To paraphrase from "The Good Earth", this is what happens when the rich get too rich and the poor get too poor. Progressive, populist, liberal revolution.
"-- And yes, while we cannot link any exact policy initiatives of Obama's to those of Marx (he was a philosopher and an economist more than he was a politician) one need only look to those others whom Marx has influenced, such as his hero Che "Butcher" Guevara, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Eugene V. Debs among many others. --"
Then by all means, please link some of Obama's policy platforms with that of Castro, Guevara, Chavez, Debs, or others. How does Obama's anti-war, pro-green business agenda match Guevera's Trotsky-esque revolution-by-force-of-arms approach in Central America? Has Obama proposed nationalizing the oil companies like Hugo Chavez? Which indefinite detention and mass execution has Obama supported that would match his police-state ideology with Fidel Castro?
Seriously, help me out here. Because I'm not seeing any actual links in policy.
Posted by: IslamoLlama | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM
"--- But fortunately, President Bush has seen the light about throwing money at Education. ---"
Heh. A good start, but Bush doesn't go quite far enough. If he were truly looking to be fiscally conservative, he'd close down the entire Department of Education and refund the taxes back to people to use for home schooling, private schooling, and for states to use to fund their own initiatives.
Posted by: seekeronos | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Willie, my friend,
I expect better of you.
"Yeah, gas is a tad high (thanks green weenies and their congressional puppets) I hear the economy is a bit depressed in a few places"
Gas and oil are at record highs, not a tad high. And most of the cause is a weakening dollar.
And the economy is a bit depressed? Gotta like your optimism but that doesn't make it true. We've got big problems across the board. Foreclosures, houses losing value at record rates, commercial real estate crashing, huge bank problems, retail sucks, health care cost crises, a 12 billion month failed war, auto business on the verge of bankruptcy.
The economy is bit depressed? I don't think so.
Posted by: jharp | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 12:11 PM
"--- Has Obama proposed nationalizing the oil companies like Hugo Chavez? ---"
No, but watch for it. Maxine Waters certainly has, Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) and I believe Conyers hinted at it strongly in the recent past.
"--- Which indefinite detention and mass execution has Obama supported that would match his police-state ideology with Fidel Castro? --"
It would be one that involves rounding up two particularly dangerous classes of citizen: gun owners and Christians (Bible-believing fundamentalists, of course... "mainstream" and apostate churches like the one lead by Rt. Rev. Shelby Spong or most of the PCUSA for that matter, would pass muster with the New World Order lead by Obama).
Of course he hasn't said much about it publicly. That would be like advertising his plans to his own demise.
Posted by: seekeronos | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 12:14 PM
So Seek, I'd also like to read actual quotes from Obama where he linked his policy proposals with Castro, Guevara, Chavez, Debs, etc.
Posted by: Worst President Ever | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Must-see video on Youtube titled:
The Iraq war video Barack Obama does not want you to see!!
Watch Obama waiver and even agree with Bush!
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM
"--- So Seek, I'd also like to read actual quotes from Obama where he linked his policy proposals with Castro, Guevara, Chavez, Debs, etc. ---"
I have much to do today, so if I have time this evening, I will do so. Bear in mind of course, that no politician in his right mind (or left mind, for that matter) would actually come out and say "Hey, look! I'm going to do just like Castro did on a certain date some years ago!".
Rather, I will look at how Obama's proposed policies tend to have a distinct Marxist (or derived Marxism through other infamous Reds).
Posted by: seekeronos | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Anyone know what Glenn Reynolds means by this? I'm too busy right now to try to find anything.
quote
THE TENNESSEE REPUBLICAN PARTY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT, if it's getting attacked in the Huffington Post. But, as usual, the attacks on Republicans soften the fact that it was Tennessee Democrats talking about Obama having possible connections to terrorists.
posted at 01:10 PM by Glenn Reynolds
unquote
Posted by: Anne | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 01:22 PM
"-- No, but watch for it. Maxine Waters certainly has, Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) and I believe Conyers hinted at it strongly in the recent past. --"
Links plz! What legislation has Waters, Hinchey, and Conyers put forward? How have they successfully shaped policy to further a nationalist agenda? :-p I know you're a busy guy, but surely there must be some bill or platform or even a quote you are referencing. Otherwise I don't know what to "watch for".
"-- It would be one that involves rounding up two particularly dangerous classes of citizen: gun owners and Christians (Bible-believing fundamentalists, of course... "mainstream" and apostate churches like the one lead by Rt. Rev. Shelby Spong or most of the PCUSA for that matter, would pass muster with the New World Order lead by Obama).
Of course he hasn't said much about it publicly. That would be like advertising his plans to his own demise. --"
So, he's got a plan to round up all the gun owners and Christians. He hasn't said it yet - much less written about it or pushed legislation on the issue - but by god, he's going to make it happen. And he's going to do it with the might of the New World Order at his back - the NWO that definitely has strong invisible ties with the Obama Campaign, may have strong invisible ties to the McCain campaign, and definitely does not have strong invisible ties to the Chuck Baldwin campaign - so VOTE FOR MY GUY OR ELSE! (Why does Chuck Baldwin have zero affiliation with the NWO, again? Maybe he's a member of the Illuminati and they don't let you share memberships. Who knows?)
Got it. Come January '09, there will be a run on tin foil in Seek's area.
Posted by: IslamoLlama | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 02:01 PM
"--- Come January '09, there will be a run on tin foil in Seek's area. ---"
Not tin foil, my friend... but silver and gold and possibly aluminum and steel are good things to look into.
Posted by: seekeronos | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 03:12 PM
The fact that Obama hasn't actually spoken in favor of any of the things the tinfoil hat brigade have accused him of, only proves that he is secretly working to implement his secret and nefarious plans. Keep an eye out for an absence of legislation and action to outlaw Bibles and guns!
I propose that we introduce legislation outlawing the torture of logic.
But seriously, how do you guys maintain such a high and consistent level of victimized poutrage? Does it hurt?
Posted by: Totally Heterosexual Conservative | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 04:51 PM
"But seriously.....?"
WTF? That would be the first serious question you ever asked on this blog. As for your silly suggestion, it's just one more reason no one with a brain takes YOU seriously.
Posted by: templar knight | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 05:09 PM
"-- But seriously, how do you guys maintain such a high and consistent level of victimized poutrage? Does it hurt? --"
"-- WTF? That would be the first serious question you ever asked on this blog. As for your silly suggestion, it's just one more reason no one with a brain takes YOU seriously. --"
Shorter TK: Yes.
Posted by: IslamoLlama | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 05:32 PM
"The economy is bit depressed? I don't think so."
Actually Harpie I said "depressed in some places" Pretty much booming in my neck of the woods...though thankfully slowing a bit. You must understand that these things are for your own good man. The only way to get you out of that gas guzzler of yours is 4.00 gasolene. Who gives a shit how many jobs are being lost while we await the miracle of battery powered Semi-Trucks. Whew, I think we're going to beat off oil rigs 30 miles off our coast. Yeah, it's irrelevent that you can't see 'em from shore and being east of the gulf stream makes any unlikely spill a non-issue on anyone's beaches. Of course we're still filling in recharge areas and polluting estuaries with run-off, but who gives a shit? Bet fuel is cutting into your business big time. Say, you dont import lead painted toys from China do you? Just curious. Thank God for NAFTA and GATT huh....you might be importing from oh..Illinois or Ohio. I'm just glad it isn't NC tomatoes that are killing people and it for sure isn't the ones in the backyard. Really dude, we must all suffer for change, some must simply suffer more.....chin up and cheerie ho old boy. Think of England!
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 09:34 PM
"But seriously, how do you guys maintain such a high and consistent level of victimized poutrage? Does it hurt?"
Actually, we're all knew at it so we're coming to you geniuses for advice. So help us out please.
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Monday, June 30, 2008 at 09:36 PM
"You must understand that these things are for your own good man."
Pretty much agree except it's for all of our own good.
"The only way to get you out of that gas guzzler of yours is 4.00 gasolene."
If your referring to me I don't have a guzzler. Still in the family mini van. For the rest of folks you are right.
Who gives a shit how many jobs are being lost while we await the miracle of battery powered Semi-Trucks. Whew, I think we're going to beat off oil rigs 30 miles off our coast. Yeah, it's irrelevent that you can't see 'em from shore and being east of the gulf stream makes any unlikely spill a non-issue on anyone's beaches. Of course we're still filling in recharge areas and polluting estuaries with run-off, but who gives a shit?
I'm not yet convinced we can drill out way out od our problems. The only ones I hear promoting it are oil guys.
"Bet fuel is cutting into your business big time."
Yes it is. Worst in my 25 years but mainly due to a weak dollar and retail sucking.
"Say, you dont import lead painted toys from China do you?"
I don't import them but it has had a significant impact on business. Very significant.
"Really dude, we must all suffer for change"
Yes it is true.
And a side not to Dan R. and friends. Could use a tad more activity on the board. I've been going other places and don't really want to.
And golf day tomorrow. At least 36. Likely more.
Posted by: jharp | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 02:09 AM
Word is that Dan went to Aruba to look for Natalee but had a bit too much to drink and left with a bunch of republicans. After driving to a secluded spot, they got undressed, said the Pledge of Allegiance and proceeded to do what it is that sweaty, nude republican men do when together. He hasn't been heard from since.
Posted by: Terrance | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 06:39 AM
"I don't import them but it has had a significant impact on business. Very significant."
Ah dont sweat too much there Harpie these weak kneed, materialistic Americans will never pay $17.00 for an American made tee shirt when they can get one almost like it made by slaves in China for $7.00. Wally-World will "roll back" some more prices soon and you'll pick right up. Oh and tainted toys.....did you know that more children were injured by jammies that caught fire than have been lead poisoned? Strange what we concern ourselves with.
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 08:17 AM
"--- Ah dont sweat too much there Harpie these weak kneed, materialistic Americans will never pay $17.00 for an American made tee shirt when they can get one almost like it made by slaves in China for $7.00 ---"
Or it could be that the Chicoms want a bigger cut of the take for their up and coming labour class (read: management wants a pay hike) ... so, importers and manufacturers are looking at even cheaper sources of labour on the global market.
One has to wonder when the bright bulbs will start sourcing most of our imports from Mexico... actually not an altogether bad idea: the per unit price would certainly be more expensive than making it in the Sinosphere, but shipping costs could be cut in half or more. Especially once the NAFTA/NAU nightmare is become a fact of life.
Posted by: seekeronos | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 08:28 AM
"Word is that Dan went to Aruba to look for Natalee...."
Yes, please add me to the3 more updates column.....
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 08:29 AM
"One has to wonder when the bright bulbs will start sourcing most of our imports from Mexico."
In five years Mexico will be bringing in labor.....ironic huh?
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 08:30 AM
"-- One has to wonder when the bright bulbs will start sourcing most of our imports from Mexico... --"
They started doing that right after we signed NAFTA under Clinton. It was kinda a big thing. Then people realized that China was cheaper than Mexico, so Mexicans started losing jobs to even lower paid Chinese workers.
I imagine once China's economy bubbles up and employees demand more than 2 cents an hour for their labor, we'll see manufactoring shift to whatever new hotspot of virtual slave labor comes up next. Could be that jobs come back to Mexico. Could be that they float over to India or the Middle East. Could be that Africa becomes the new place to get cheap-ass shit.
"-- Oh and tainted toys.....did you know that more children were injured by jammies that caught fire than have been lead poisoned? --"
While a fascinating statistic it doesn't really console the children who got lead poisoning. I mean, more people die in auto accidents than from gunshot wounds, but I wouldn't take that as an invitation to play Russian Roulette. And while the flammability of pajamas isn't a regulated aspect of the product, the lead content in toys is. Kinda like the salmonella content in tomatoes and spinach. Clothing catches on fire - that's unavoidable. But lead doesn't just naturally end up in paint.
"-- Word is that Dan went to Aruba to look for Natalee but had a bit too much to drink and left with a bunch of republicans... --"
Hehe. Go figure.
Posted by: IslamoLlama | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Terrance, there are gay blogs you can go to for your sick fantasies. Goodbye.
Posted by: templar knight | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 10:31 AM
"They started doing that right after we signed NAFTA under Clinton..."
That would be wrong. Agreements signed between the US and Mexico as long as 20 years ago set up economic zones along the US-Mexican border. There agreements became known as maquiladoros. The Mexican government called the program the Border Industialization Program(BIP), but it has come to be known as the Maquila Zone. Arguably, this was the first real program that was set up for sending manufacturers to cheap labor markets at the expense of US workers.
Posted by: templar knight | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Sourcing labour _in_ Mexico (i.e. building factories in Mexico) might be a boon to them as well, and creating jobs there may serve to reduce the illegal migration factor, if not even reverse it somewhat.
Posted by: seekeronos | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 11:02 AM
"And while the flammability of pajamas isn't a regulated aspect of the product, the lead content in toys is." Well, actually...it is regulated but you couldn't "prove" your point if you admitted that.
"Clothing catches on fire." Wow you really are the smartest little girl in the world.....some materials, treatments and dyes are more flammable than others though.
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 11:11 AM
"....cheap labor markets at the expense of US workers."
It is true though that industry chases cheap labor. Workers are already bucking China's near slave wages and it makes sense that Africa could be next. And guess who will keep buying the stuff?
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 11:15 AM
The issue with regulation is not a lack of them, but rather, a certain deliberate attempt to skirt around those regulations.
American manufacturers can be more easily taken to task, sued, penalized, and even shut down if it violates certain regulations.
The Chinese companies won't get knuckle-rapped by the PRC government though for their violations... heck, the PRC subsidizes a small if not significant portion of the supply channel (be it through direct corporate subsidies or through gas/transport). The worst we can do is complain and boycott the retailer at the most, and maybe the US government may make some noise about the lead painted toys... which the Chinese manufacturers will obligingly have them scraped and repainted with something else, before putting them on the container ships to Wally World.
Posted by: seekeronos | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 11:25 AM
"The worst we can do is complain and boycott the retailer at the most....."
It's making my stomach churn a bit but Pookie is right about the need to better control what comes into the country. ICE and Ag need to smack the shit out of importers and retailers. DOnt pretend that Mattel doesn't have some culpibity when hteir O/S suppliers send them lead tainted toys and Iams has some QC over their pet food.
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 11:34 AM
A few observations I have witnessed first hand.
Lead in toys. Easily the same dam thing could happen in the US and I'm sure something similar. Every major retailer has samples sent in for testing. The dishonest maker submits a lead free sample then uses paint with lead for production. Been happening for a hundred years.
And the Chinese workers don't really have it that bad though working in any factory is no picnic. They make about US$140 per month and get fed, housed, work uniform, and medical care. At the end of the month they have pretty much saved all $140.
And the Chinese workers are a migrant work force. The rural poor travel to the cities and work maybe 1,2, or 3 years saving most it and then going home "rich".
And as far as other countries undercutting Chinas pricing. Ain't happening now as China is a big place. As it is now, much of the manufacturing has been moving north to avoid the high labor costs of the south.
And the clothing is a bad example as quotas keep the Chinese from being competitive.
As regarding using Mexico as a source I have been there and done that. With all due respect to our Hispanic neighbors they simply cannot compete. The Chinese are just too dam good.
And I might add the weak dollar is having a significant impact. That and US retailers squeezing the piss out of their margins has many Chinese factories closing down.
As a matter of fact we (myself and my Chinese partners) are filling orders that others have walked away from. We are well capitalized and mostly deal with long established profitbale Chinese factories.
And maybe the good that comes out of all this.
Americans are buying much less of the cheap Chinese junk that they didn't need in the first place.
Posted by: jharp | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 11:39 AM
"It's making my stomach churn a bit but Pookie is right about the need to better control what comes into the country."
Agree but it is tougher than you'd think. Just think what a tough time we have keeping the crooks in line in our own country.
Posted by: jharp | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Heading to the golf course. I'll catch up tonight and am interested in any responses you gentleman would offer.
Posted by: jharp | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 12:11 PM
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Posted by: Lynette | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 12:14 PM
"Agree but it is tougher than you'd think."
No, all we need to do is hire about 100,000 +/- more gs-05 ICE and USDA agents to open every single conex that comes into a US port.
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 12:51 PM
"the New World Order and the spraying of chemicals in our skies."
OMG they're real!!!!
Posted by: WAHOO WILLIE | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 12:52 PM
For our favourite shaggy-breasted Islamic mountain beast:
Maxine Waters (D-CA) calls for the "socializing" (nationalization) of Big Oil in her own charmingly rustic manner during the oil executive hearings in late May of this year, in response to John Hofmeister's statement that oil prices will go up if Congress fails to give oil companies the right to drill and search out new supplies (domestic off shore sources)...:
"--- And guess what this liberal (referring to herself) would be all about?
This liberal would be all about socializing... uh... uh...
(uncomfortable pause as she collects her thoughts, realizing she just made a big boo-boo...)
... will be about...
(another uncomfortable pause)
... basically ... taking over ... and the government running all of your companies. ---"
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb8LTXss1Os&feature=related (playhead at 1:16/2:19)
Maurice Hinchey (D-NY, 22CD) suggested something similar, here:
"--- So, if there is any seriousness about what some of our Republican colleagues are saying in the House and elsewhere, about improving the number of refineries, then maybe they would be willing to have these refineries owned publicly, owned by the people of the United States, so that the people of the United States can determine how much of the product is refined and put out on the market ... to me, that sounds like a very good idea. ---"
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vhft39_gkc (playhead at 0:07/3:34)
No matter how you paint it, that Hinchey and that Waters are calling for government control of what is private industry.
Not mere regulatory oversight, but outright state ownership. Just like they do in Communist Cuba, and in Socialist Venezuela, and North Korea.
Stalinism at its finest: from there it would be down the slippery slope to all sorts of government takeovers of private business. I just hope that the SCOTUS can knock down any sort of attempt like that as they did when Harry Truman tried to take over the steel industry.
Posted by: seekeronos | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 03:00 PM
I'm more worried about Big Oil taking over the government than I am government taking over Big Oil.
And Seek, you never got back with those quotes where Obama praised Che, Castro, etc.
Posted by: Worst President Ever | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 09:44 PM
"Agree but it is tougher than you'd think."
"No, all we need to do is hire about 100,000 +/- more gs-05 ICE and USDA agents to open every single conex that comes into a US port."
Cannot disagree but I"d be interested in the math.
I've been at it a long time and always figured the market had it taken care of it pretty well. First time anything of this magnitude for me.
Probably a good idea to think the whole thing over carefully before spending our hard earned tax dollars foolishly.
Posted by: jharp | Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 11:00 PM
"--- And Seek, you never got back with those quotes where Obama praised Che, Castro, etc. ---"
I don't believe I said that Obama _praised_ those old commies.
I believe that Obama - consciously or not - seeks to emulate them in some fashion.
Generally, this will involve wide and sweeping expansion of the federal government, restrictions of economic and personal freedoms, higher taxes all around under the rubric of "fairness", and suppression of the Christians and Constitutionalists who value liberty: suppression of the Christian as "dangerous radicals" who oppose the gays and the murder of unborn children, as well as the preaching of salvation alone by a righteous God, and the Constitutionalists for seeking to limit the power of government and hold them accountable for their actions.
Now, I admit I am reaching a bit when I talk about re-education camps (or worse) ... but I fear that the Socialists will gain much influence and power, and should Obama be victorious as he is almost certain to be (short of divine intervention) that the death of liberty will be at hand.
I'll have more on this idea tomorrow, if I have time.
Posted by: seekeronos | Wednesday, July 02, 2008 at 12:37 AM