"O" So Wonderful?

Gee, if Barack Obama is such a wonder candidate, why is he trailing by double digits in polls out of both Kentucky and West Virginia?

Liberals can scream racism all they want. But while simply race may be a factor for some, Obama's liberal ideology and negative associations also figure into those numbers. And those numbers add up to a potential disaster for Dems in the Fall when it matters. They are on the verge of nominating a candidate destined to drive Reagan Democrats back to the GOP for yet one more election. And you realize that the local pols in those areas aren't going to want an Obama and Me meme going on in their own races, right?

Gawd, it's hilarious to watch, even if it is sad. Of course the GOP has its issues, too - what with Barr and Ron Paul making noise. The whole November election could turn out to be a mess with no one knowing which main candidate will squeak by.

But, all in all, it should definitely be advantage McCain.

That gem in the eyes of elitist Democrats, Obama, doesn't sparkle for many Americans the way he does for them.

No matter what, the hand wringing, second guessing and anguish of the Democrats over the next several months is going to be fun to watch. And if, as may well be, they wind up losing to what they are calling a third Bush term ... I predict more bridge collapses as Democrats around the country line up in droves to jump off of them.

That's politics entertainment!

Comments

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"you don't have your phone tapped, Harpo"

Dammit Fred, if Bill Maher said it, it must be the truth!!! I happen to know for a fact that Mrs. Cheney has been feeding the Ninja's magic brownies from Harpo's mom's recipe.

[Lala]

How come no one cared about Echelon when Bill was Pres.?

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"How come no one cared about Echelon when Bill was Pres.?"

Because he isn't a repugnican, ESPECIALLY George of the Bushes.

[LOL]

"The one thing I'll agree with jharp here is, that the GOP-lead congress has failed to stand up for the constitutional right to life of these poor, murdered innocent babies"

You need to re-read the constitution. The constitution does not guarantee the rights of anyone unborn. The 14th amendment was cited in Blackmun's majority opinion.

I wouldn't expect a wingnut to actually know anything about the constitution or the rule of law in general, as they don't actually care about it. Wingnuts only cite such documents as a ruse to pretend they give a crap about it.

[Fred Beloit]

Now LOL, do your thing. Common, I know you know how. Don't be shy. Let's go. Common show us again how you can red the item below and completely miss the word "unreasonable".

" The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

[Fred Beloit]

Ok OK. Read.

[seekeronos]

"--- Since we've learned that John F Kerry was a member of Skull n Bones BEFORE GW became a member it is no longer an issue Secret Societies and such. ---"

Perhaps not. The Bush clan's involvement with the S&B goes back at least as far as Prescott Bush (grandfather of G.W.B.) and to Herbert Walker (Prescott Bush's father in law).

'Tis only a minor trifle, to be sure, but one which sets the mind to thinking on whether these are just mere fraternities, or indeed, something more sinister.

[LOL]

Fred, the 4th amendment has nothing to do with the abortion issue. Only a wingnut could be this dense.

[seekeronos]

Alas, Fred.

LOL does know how to read, but conveniently ignores those bits that clash with his worldview of defining unborn babies as "useless, parasitic blobs of protoplasm which have infested a woman's body" rather than individual human persons.

Funny how the "liberals" have such horrendous double standards.

To them, it is perfectly okay for a man to marry and copulate with another man, or a sheep, if he is so inclined... but then so easily sent into fits of fainting over preventing the murder of unborn persons - babies.

I suppose LOL might just be that sort of crass person who asks a noticeably pregnant woman "how is your parasite doing?" or "when is that useless bag of flesh due to come tumbling out of your uterus?".

Such people who so glibly look at the murder of innocent, unborn babies might not like it so much when they attain sixty-five years of age, and suddenly, they find that younger society views him or her as a "elderly parasite feasting on the hard labours of society", or a "useless, resource-sucking, doddering old waste of flesh".

[seekeronos]

"--- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated... ---"

Spelling it out for the dense moonbat:

Unborn Baby = person

Womb = Unborn Baby's house (home, domicile, etc.)

Abortion = unreasonable seizure

shall not be violated = Don't do it!

[Fred Beloit]

seek, they don't admit of people having a different view from theirs. I know how you folks feel about this issue. Those feelings need to be respected.

Speaking of feelings, have you perhaps wondered how DailyKos celebrated the 60th anniversary of the founding of Israel? Well Johnson at LittleGreenFootballs has:

"Every obsessive antisemitic canard known to man is represented in this piece; the USS Liberty, “Zionist cancer,” “Zionist tentacles,” “the Mossad killed JFK,” blood libels, you name it. They’re all here.

It’s disgusting beyond belief that they would allow something like this at their web site during Israel’s 60th anniversary, but that’s how far the left wing has degenerated."

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

[seekeronos]

Declaration of Independence:

(Preamble)

"---- We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ----"

That includes unborn babies too. They have a right to life as well.

[jharp]

Lala,

"How come no one cared about Echelon when Bill was Pres.?"

The Clinton administration program, code-named Echelon, complied with FISA. Before any conversations of U.S. persons were targeted, a FISA warrant was obtained. CIA director George Tenet testified to this before Congress on 4/12/00:

[seekeronos]

The anti-Israel bias is not at all surprising, Fred.

What is a a bit of a head-scratcher for me is how they can get away with it, especially with the general support of much of American Jewry for the agendas of the liberal left.

That is not in my hands though; for the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel has declared that He will bless those who bless Israel, and curse those who curse Israel.

Dark times await us, should these Israel-hating (and by extension, Jew-hating) liberals attain mastery over this Republic.

[Fred Beloit]

Thus I refute you with your own recent comment, LOL. Gosh you're easy.

"I wouldn't expect a wingnut to actually know anything about the constitution or the rule of law in general, as they don't actually care about it."

I care about it.

[Lala]

Seek,
Maybe the Jews are waking up -

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/jonathan/mark_obama_friends.php3

[Worst President Ever]

Q Mr. President, you haven’t been golfing in recent years. Is that related to Iraq?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, it really is. I don’t want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the Commander-in-Chief playing golf. I feel I owe it to the families to be as — to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal.

[Worst President Ever]

Say it now, say it loud: President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

Democrats picked up a northern Mississippi House seat in one of the most conservative-minded districts in the country Tuesday night -- an upset that will reverberate darkly through a House Republican caucus already reeling from losses in special elections in Illinois and Louisiana.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0508/Childers_wins_Miss_special_election.html

[seekeronos]

"--- an upset that will reverberate darkly through a House Republican caucus already reeling from losses in special elections in Illinois and Louisiana. ---"

Plagiarize much, WPE?

[Pete]

President Barack Hussein Obama? I just don't see it happening. A possibly? Sure. Likely? Doubtful.

Getting Bubba
http://www.kentucky.com/754/story/404277.html

[Worst President Ever]

Plagerize? Uh, that's what the link's for.

You may not think Barack Husseain Obama is going to be president, but polls say he will. And Republicans have underperformed and lost in three straight elections in heavily republican districts. There's a better chance of a Dem landslide this year than Obama losing to McSame / McBush.

And no, I'm not making it up. This from Quinnipiac:

Either one of the two Democratic contenders, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama or New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, leads the likely Republican presidential nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Sen. Obama leads Sen. McCain 47 - 40 percent while Sen. Clinton is up 46 - 41 percent.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1177

[Fred Beloit]

Well, Mr Ever, do you agree or disagree with this statement you quoted? "And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal." We are breathlessly awaiting you approval or condemnation, as always.

[seekeronos]

Add this to the mix as well:

The possibility that Power Hungry Hillary will run as an independent if Obie gets the nom.

It may only be an empty threat meant to cajole the remaining supes into voting for her in order to avoid an absolute implosion of the party (and think of the effect it could have on the downticket races as well)...

Objectively, a three-way race between Billary, Johnny Mac, and Obie-wan-Hussein might allow Mac to narrowly squeak by in November (to whatever degree that relative non-factors like Chuck Baldwin (CP) or Bob Barr (LP) might have on Mac's race).

O Darth Rove! How murky and tricky are thy ways!

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"a three-way race between Billary, Johnny Mac, and Obie-wan-Hussein might allow Mac to narrowly squeak by in November....."

seeker: I don't see it. The ticket is going to be Obie/Clinton and Johnny Mac has no chance. Man you gotsta face facts, Da Peeps is fed up with the betrayal of the GOP by the current leadership. Dumbasses had eight years (8 YEARS) to groom the next candidate and the best they can come up with is a demolite like Johnny? Between the "Last election I couldn't even spell demonrat" vote and the "I just cant hold my nose tight enough to pull for Johnny or Obie" vote The "too disgusted" third party voters. This election is going to make it appear that the majority want a monarchy in Obie numbers. Sorry man, hate to burst your bubble but hide your money and be ready to sit back for a minimum of four years and more likely 8-12.

[Worst President Ever]

Hillary's not about to mount an independent campaign for president. There's no positives in it. She'd lose, she'd piss off a large portion of the Democratic base, and it would end any hopes she might have of running again in 4 / 8 years. Additionally, there's not a huge difference between the positions of the two.

There's a bigger chance, though still unlikely, that Ron Paul would bolt the Republican party and run as an independent. He has real differences with McSame / McBush and thinks the Republican Party has abandoned it's core principles.

So what do you think Fred? You think giving up golf symbolizes the type of leadership we expect from our presidents?

[seekeronos]

"--- Sorry man, hate to burst your bubble but hide your money and be ready to sit back for a minimum of four years and more likely 8-12. ---"

That's a powerful long time. I've considered shifting a good portion of my portfolio to gold and silver, grain futures, maybe some oil futures, and the rest to either European or Japanese indexes... although the Japanese market has been sputtering lately. The Aussie and NZ markets appear to be humming right along though, although not phenomenally so. I guess I better do whatever fiddling I need to do before Hillbama takes over and jacks up my capital gains rate to 65%.

12 years.... yeeeks.

Maybe that's long enough for the Constitutionalists to pick up a few state house seats and maybe even some seats in Congress... but 3rd parties have as many chances as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs of getting candidates to national offices, much less local ones.

The irritating thing is this wretched two-party (seemingly one-party) system that we are enslaved to. Washington was very right in that one thing -- they are a weed that is choking out the Liberty Tree.

[Lokki]

I was in Japan for the last few weeks and have just returned. One of the big news stories there was that a major Japanese Restaurant Chain is giving up use of American beef because the supplier wasn't being careful enough about supplying meat certified to be free of Mad Cow ...

The way the story was carried made it pretty obvious to the Japanese (at least the people I was with) that American beef may not be safe and that there's good reason not to buy it.
There are economic consequences for things folks.
As with Obama, perception is more important than reality.

[Worst President Ever]

You mean like this "reality":

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration on Friday urged a federal appeals court to stop meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease, but a skeptical judge questioned whether the government has that authority.

The government seeks to reverse a lower court ruling that allowed Kansas-based Creekstone Farms Premium Beef to conduct more comprehensive testing to satisfy demand from overseas customers in Japan and elsewhere

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"The way the story was carried made it pretty obvious to the Japanese (at least the people I was with) that American beef may not be safe and that there's good reason not to buy it."

Yeah, we went over this one ad nauseum yesterday. USDA doesn't want to sell test kits to this one exporter because since 2006 there have been three cases of spongiform in the US. Yeah, THREE.... It cannot be discovered in younger beef which is what is normally used in the market. We aren't shipping milk, we're shipping steaks and hamburger. So it's pretty much another red herring.

[Worst President Ever]

It's more likely that big beef packers - Iowa Beef - doesn't want any additional testing and are pressuring the government to stop it before it gets out of hand.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"It's more likely that big beef packers - Iowa Beef - doesn't want any additional testing and are pressuring the government to stop it before it gets out of hand."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa Probably right, the Ninja's again. Snuck into the USDA and forced them to lie about the beef herd, only three cases of spongiform in old cows and all. Yeah, I hear that Cheney's third cousin', ex-wife's new father in law was in the army with the biggest rancher/packer in Iowa.

Strangely, searching Japanese papers I could find no reference to this story.......There are several in US papers though.

[Worst President Ever]

The guy just back from Japan's the one that brought up beef quality.

You really think the USDA actually cares if some little boutique company reinspects their beef? Probably not. But big packers do, because it could get real expensive for them if consumers get sold on the idea of more inspections. And there's a lot of other bad stuff that can be found in beef than Mad Cow.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"You really think the USDA actually cares if some little boutique company reinspects their beef?"

Right. The suit was about rather USDA would sell the testing kits to the packer. They said "no, no need in it. Out of over 600,000 head tested, only three, older cows had it". It is younger beef that is used for food and the tests dont work on them. You must kill the cow to do the test and like most other things, the packer can buy the kits on the open market where they cost more and do their own testing. The question involved spongiform testing. Had nothing to do with e-coli or anything else. Those are different tests and frankly I've learned far more about Mad Cow than I ever wanted to know, so please, feel free to look it up yourself.

[seekeronos]

I'll have to ask Mrs. Seeker on this one... can't say that I've followed the beef ban news much, but last I heard, the ban was lifted in October of 2006.

I know the Koreans had some heartache over it within the past year or so, but not a peep from the Japanese (and they are by far the fussiest over beef quality).

I seem to recall that the original beef item in 2001 was a Japanese election year item as well, with Koizumi then running for Prime Minister.

I sure wish we had someone with his head screwed on straight like "Jun-chan" running for POTUS this year with half a serious chance of winning.

[Worst President Ever]

Jeez Wahoo. I can't believe you actually buy that BS line from the USDA. I'm sure you're familiar with the 'follow the money' line. Well, in this case, it leads straight to be agribusiness. They've been pressuring the USDA to cut back on it's testing.

This pretty much speaks for me: http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-03-our-view_x.htm

[WAHOO WILLIE]

WPE: Of course I believe the government and you'd better learn to as well...if you know what's good for you.