"O" So Wonderful?

Gee, if Barack Obama is such a wonder candidate, why is he trailing by double digits in polls out of both Kentucky and West Virginia?

Liberals can scream racism all they want. But while simply race may be a factor for some, Obama's liberal ideology and negative associations also figure into those numbers. And those numbers add up to a potential disaster for Dems in the Fall when it matters. They are on the verge of nominating a candidate destined to drive Reagan Democrats back to the GOP for yet one more election. And you realize that the local pols in those areas aren't going to want an Obama and Me meme going on in their own races, right?

Gawd, it's hilarious to watch, even if it is sad. Of course the GOP has its issues, too - what with Barr and Ron Paul making noise. The whole November election could turn out to be a mess with no one knowing which main candidate will squeak by.

But, all in all, it should definitely be advantage McCain.

That gem in the eyes of elitist Democrats, Obama, doesn't sparkle for many Americans the way he does for them.

No matter what, the hand wringing, second guessing and anguish of the Democrats over the next several months is going to be fun to watch. And if, as may well be, they wind up losing to what they are calling a third Bush term ... I predict more bridge collapses as Democrats around the country line up in droves to jump off of them.

That's politics entertainment!

Comments

[seekeronos]

I wouldn't worry about Dr. Ron Paul (non-competitive) or Bob Barr (Libertarian Party), or even Chuck Baldwin (Constitution Party).

Though any of these fine men would be outstanding presidents who love America and would serve her people faithfully under the Constitution, we Americans are locked and chained at ankle and wrist to the lethargic and unresponsive, behemoth parties of greed and stupidity, a.k.a. the Democrats and the Republicans.

This sad mockery of an election will certainly be no exception, although I think the odds favour McCain by a thin margin at this point.

Things will get interesting as the MSM tries to ramrod Hillary off the stage as they attempt to get the Supes to pull for the Big "O".

[seekeronos]

"--- That gem in the eyes of elitist Democrats, Obama, doesn't sparkle for many Americans the way he does for them. ---"

Which goes to show ye that polishing a turd doesn't guarantee it will shine for everyone.

[SpaceCat]

McCain is sitting pretty right now, what with the Democrats fighting to the death. But once Obama emerges victorious, and the media actually pay attention to McCain, his easy days will be over. You need to rememeber - now is the best it's going to get for McCain, and he's still barely tied or losing to both Democrats. That's not the spot I'd want to be in if I were a Republican. Add Obama's huge fundraising and organizational advantage, McCain's age, a 3rd Bush term, what will likely be $5/a gallon gas prices, a recession and the neverending nightmare in Iraq, and McCain is toast.

[seekeronos]

"--- McCain's age, a 3rd Bush term, what will likely be $5/a gallon gas prices, a recession and the neverending nightmare in Iraq, and McCain is toast. ---"

Here's the rub:

Even if he looses in November, McCain will still have more experience, gas will still likely hit over $5/gal during an Obama administration (probably hitting as high as $8/gal assuming the dollar continues its downward fall in light of stupid FedRes policy and disastrous Dem economic policies), Iraq is likely to remain a small slice of hell on earth, and in the end, Obama and the DemCong will as likely be far worse off for winning than they'd be with having the GOP take four more years of hammering.

Either way, the status quo will not change very much.

It is more of a matter of how bad it will get, and who will get the blame for how truly bad the nation is in 2012.

[IslamoLlama]

Haha. Wow, Dan. Macaca for President, much? At least the Virginia Senate race was close. But Obama is beating McCain in much the same way he's beating Clinton - by every conceivable metric. He polls better in more states, polls the winning share of the popular vote, polls the winning share of the electoral college, has higher fund raising, wins nearly every demographic handily, and has the biggest cross-over numbers since Reagen.

I wonder if, some time some where in 1984, some lefty political commentator was trying to explain to his base how Mondale totally had the race in the bag, just so I could have something to compare this with.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Either way, the status quo will not change very much.

It is more of a matter of how bad it will get, and who will get the blame for how truly bad the nation is in 2012."

Seek, Oil industry news is actually predicting prices to drop right now but what that eventually means at the pump is still an issue. Exxon is already backing down new holes, maybe in anticipation of moving operations overseas? Unless Obie finds out something OJT that we citizens are not privy to, I see us gone and ankle deep blood flowing the streets of Bagdhad a year after Obie moves into the White House. Imagine Saigon in April 1975........ Very little will change much until you wake up to learn that you're rich and the capital gains tax limit drops way on down to the tens o' thousands. But look at it this way.......You'll have "free" health care and your pre-teen daughter can get an abortion without telling you.

[Miklo]

Obama's campaign is the Clintons'worst nightmare...

and the Republicans'dream come true!

[seekeronos]

"--- very little will change much until you wake up to learn that you're rich and the capital gains tax limit drops way on down to the tens o' thousands. ---"

I do not look forward to that sort of thing at all, as a modest investor.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Even if he looses in November, McCain will still have more experience, gas will still likely hit over $5/gal during an Obama administration (probably hitting as high as $8/gal assuming the dollar continues its downward fall in light of stupid FedRes policy and disastrous Dem economic policies), Iraq is likely to remain a small slice of hell on earth, and in the end, Obama and the DemCong will as likely be far worse off for winning than they'd be with having the GOP take four more years of hammering. --"

We ran that argument back in '04, consoling ourselves over Kerry's loss. With another 4 years in power, Democrats could REALLY capitalize on GOP malfeasance. Over the last four years, we've certainly seen landslide support for Democratic candidates. But, eventually, you've got to call in your chips. For the time being, the Dem Party is running on promises. We don't have the numbers in the House or the Senate to actually end the war. Republican filibusters are backed up by Presidential vetoes, killing everything that isn't loaded down with party favors for the GOP leadership. Eventually, people will demand that Democrats deliver. Eventually comes on January 20th, 2009. People want to see the President move the heavens and the earth after the next election cycle. How close Obama comes to realizing all his lofty rhetoric in his first 100 days will set the tone for the next 8 years.

Simply waiting for McCain to come along and play scapegoat to collapsing economies and terrible wars won't win any more votes four years from now than it will bring in today. The GOP isn't going to run a worse candidate if it still thinks it can win. The Dems won't field anyone with more money or popular support in 2012 if the party is convinced it will always lose.

This is it.

"-- Either way, the status quo will not change very much. --"

I think that is where you are absolutely wrong. Currently, the Bush Admin has been actively thwarting Congressional legislation on the environment, the war, the economy, and the US infrastructure. Simply removing Bush as a block turns the Senate loss to pass legislation without 67 like-minded Senators and 290 like-minded House Reps. Stem Cell legislation is the first piece thing that leaps to mind as an auto-pass.

Bush's selection of court justices and Department level managers has also royally dicked over the federal government. Replacing Bush's man at the DoJ, FEMA, Homeland Security, D o Energy, D o Education, ... effectively cleaning up the bureaucracy will immediately patch a very broken system.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"How close Obama comes to realizing all his lofty rhetoric in his first 100 days will set the tone for the next 8 years."

Pookie dont even roll over from your nap for a hundred days. MSM is already starting with their "remember that the first two years of a presidency is the effect of the last two years of the other guy." The first hundred days is going to be trying to find all the bathrooms in the whitehouse and being tempted not to actually press that big red button (though I wish!) Let's hope his first appointment is at FEMA where he brings in someone 'at least' with training. Another USCG admiral maybe. Then he can send you your chicken....but in the meantime clean your garage for your Ford.

[SacTownMan]

Those moonbats that voted for Barry will not be swayed by any amount of negative press he receives between now and November. The rest of America will begin to realize that this guy is another flawed liberal that is out of touch with the majority.

With the dramatic improvements taking place in Iraq including the success of the surge, The government crackdown in Basra, and the apparent capitulation of the Sadarists in Bahgdad, Barry's plans to abandon the Iraqi people will be seen as the recipe for genocide it is. The New York Times actually reported in today's issue about the Basra improvements. And the rest of the MSM was trying soo hard to spin the story about how the Basra and Satr City offensives were actually failures.

George Soro's must be planning to write a lot of checks this week to blast the Times and any other MSM outlet that continue to defy his orders. He and his minions are already fuming because Barry and Hillary went on FOX despite his threats to punish anyone who did.

Barry's whole "hope", "change", "uniter" mantra will need to actually have some details outlined. It is funny to watch as he and his wife speak, you can really see the Reverend Wright influence at play. With Barry it's like going to a old time revival meeting, except with a teleprompter, while with Michelle it's more like a funeral.

Harpo, Chris, BDS man and others will try and say that Hillary's double digit lead in Kentucky and West Virgina comes from a bunch of white, racist, trailer park trash. The truth is that Hillary is a better candidate to defeat McCain. Her ability to attract Reagan Democrats should not be ignored. As I've said before that she could take Barry in a 15 round fight but Michelle would knock out Hillary in the first round.

The reality is that America has finally started to ask some hard questions about Obama and just who he is. Get ready for the $50,000,000 in hit money that George and his budies are building up for the assault on McCain this summer.

[seekeronos]

"a pile of genetically engineered Tofurkey in every pot, and an EV/Plug-in Hybrid in every governemnt-manufactured apartment's parking lot..."

Indeed, will Obama be the FDR of the 21st century (especially if that pesky term limit amendment goes away in the future) ?

"--- People want to see the President move the heavens and the earth after the next election cycle. How close Obama comes to realizing all his lofty rhetoric in his first 100 days will set the tone for the next 8 years. ---"

I doubt it. First of all, "moving heaven and earth", with much/most of what tyrannical powers, executive orders, and signing statements that would require, would be as much a brutal rape of the Constitutional limits on executive power as anything FDR, JFK, or even the beknighted TR ever did.

Second, as WW points out, Obie simply won't be able to do all of that in so short of a time (100 days). Mrs. Obie will need time to move in all her junk, and not even Obie nor the affairs of state will get in the way of that.

Realistically, man. Think about it.

"--- Stem Cell legislation is the first piece thing that leaps to mind as an auto-pass ---"

Now there is a complete non-sequitur... however frightening.

And whether or not such a thing passes may have a lot to do with who the cells comes from (stem cells from consenting adults... or purposely murdered babies, or from involuntary Chinese organ donors?) and what gets done with them (testing for new medicines... or weird genetic engineering ala Monsanto geneticists looking to whip up demonically powered übermenschen to take over the world).

Yes, I reached quite a bit on that last one, but genetic engineering and eugenics were much longer the liberal's playground in the 1920s.

[jharp]

"Gee, if Barack Obama is such a wonder candidate, why is he trailing by double digits in polls out of both Kentucky and West Virginia?"

Because the democrats have two excellent candidates who either one will beat McCain.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- testing for new medicines... or weird genetic engineering ala Monsanto geneticists looking to whip up demonically powered übermenschen to take over the world --"

*Stamps ticket*
*Checks baggage*
All Aboard for Crazy Town.

Yeah, stem cell research has bipartisan support in both houses of Congress. It was one of the only issues that former Majority Leader Bill Frist actually championed in opposition to the President (Frist being a doctor and all). Under a Democratic President who wasn't desperate to pander to a chronically under educated GOP fringe religious base, the Stem Cell bills shot down twice in the last four years would fly through without a hitch.

That is just one of many changes you would see from a Democrat in the White House.

With majorities in Congress, legislation will sweep through quickly and painlessly. The SCOTUS will be the last remaining bulwark against a complete reversal of the 2002 clusterfuck.

[tally]

"what will likely be $5/a gallon gas prices"

whatever, pelosi and the democrats have made it worse, much much worse.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"All Aboard for Crazy Town."

Actually the man said outright that he was playing a little whimsy. It was 2004 that funding for stem cells from fertilized eggs was banned, not 2002, NBD. More people in th eUS believe that life begins at conception than the number who "can't get health care" but I agree, "fuck anybody who doesn't agree with us" make them pay for what we want. It doesn't matter that there is no proof that we learn anything from eggs that we can't learn from umbilical cords. We want what we want!!!

[WAHOO WILLIE]

From the right wing propagandists at NPR:

"The filming of MAPPING STEM CELL RESEARCH ended in 2006. In November 2007, a major breakthrough in stem cell research was announced. Scientists in the U.S. and Japan, working independently, discovered a way to reprogram skin cells to behave like embryonic stem cells. The development is likely to transform research and possibly eliminate the need for embryonic stem cells, bringing an end to the ethical debate. Dr. Robert Lanza, chief science officer at the biotech company Advanced Cell Technology, said that medical uses of stem cells developed using the new technique were many years away. "I can't overemphasize the use of caution here," Lanza said. "These are not ready for prime time."

Who cares, we want eggs anyway, whether we need 'em or not!!!

[wjo]

Remember now, all these "Racist" voters are Democrats, the party of unity and kumbaya.

Obama won't win many blue collar and rural votes because these folks are too embittered to trust a man who only knows their problems because he studied them in sociology in college.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Remember now, all these "Racist" voters are Democrats, the party of unity and kumbaya."

wjo remember too that West BG Virginia's favorite senator & earmark hunter is a former grand poobah of the KKK. Then one only read the words to "My old Kentucky Home" to get a real feel for the level of racism there. Still I predict it will be very close. I AM surprised though that you dont sympathize more with Obie's struggles, gosh especially with how hard poor Michelle has had it in Amerika.

[Lala]

We have this to look forward to

in the UK, The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill, which will permit the creation of human-animal hybrid embryos, is going through Parliament.

[MarkJ]

jharp,

"Because the democrats have two excellent candidates who either one will beat McCain."

Excellent? Compared to who? Your guy and gal have been repeatedly shown to be serial prevaricators--or have you been been smoking dope in your mom's basement all these many months and missed out on all the fun? Guess you didn't hear Hillary tell her constantly-evolving Tuzla war story or listen to Obama try to explain away his long associations with racist nutballs, sleazy campaign contributors, and self-admitted terrorists. And, oh yeah, your boy Obama declared that McCain was "losing his bearings," then immediately turned around and declared there were 57 states in the Union. Excellent? Definitely clue me in on what kind of stuff you're smoking, but it must be some good s***.

Too bad for you the two best Donk candidates for President are a couple of white guys nicknamed FDR and JFK--and they've both been dead for decades.

[IslamoLlama]

Shorter Willie/Dan: People who don't vote for Barack Obama are racist!
Which, of course, begs the question - what does that make Republicans?

Seriously, is it so crazy that people are siding with Clinton in WV and Kentucky on the basis of policy? Ron Paul and Huckabee continue to get roughly 25% of the vote in Republican Primaries despite McCain's automatic victory. Does that make Paulites and Huckabeeians ageist?

As for the stem cell study, Willie, you might want to read up on it a bit more. The major breakthrough would never have been possible without utilizing research gained from the initial experimentation on embryonic stem cells.

Of course, all of this dodges the rather trivial detail that embryos destroyed by stem cell research were destined for the waste basket anyway. This is, in effect, the phoniest in a long line of phony anti-science platforms. Republicans are insisting we debate on how we take out the garbage, subtly implying that embryos we don't use for research will go on to live long, healthy, happy lives while frozen in liquid CO2, until someone finally dumps them in an incinerator.

[MarkJ]

SpaceCat,

"Add Obama's huge fundraising and organizational advantage, McCain's age, a 3rd Bush term, what will likely be $5/a gallon gas prices, a recession and the neverending nightmare in Iraq, and McCain is toast."

Let me get this straight: you've got a problem with McCain's age...but have no problem with an ossified Senate. Average age of senators in the 110th Congress: 62 years. Take a look at the Democratic Senate leadership: they make the Supreme Soviet look positively youthful (Robert Byrd anyone?). Yeah, that whippersnapper Teddy Kennedy is really spry for 76, ain't he?

Neverending nightmare in Iraq? Huh? Where've you been, boy? At the rate Al Qaeda is getting whacked (new offensive just kicked off in Mosul the other day), most of its remaining fighters will soon be cashing in their "Mutual of Jihad" insurance policies. Ditto for Sadr and his merry crew--crack open today's New York Times--even that fishwrap can no longer ignore our success in Sadr City.

Buddy, I'll tell you what a real "neverending nightmare" is: having to read your brand of idiotic, ill-informed, BDS-deranged posts. Just the thought of combing through your damn-fool posts is terrifying to me.

[jharp]

Markj,

"Excellent? Compared to who?"

Compared to McCain.

As I see it. Three reasons.

Ending the occupation of Iraq.

Health care reform.

Tax reform. I'll no longer pay a higher rate than Warren Buffett.

To be honest past those three I really don't give much of a dam though I like to see us stop torturing the folks we are holding without charges.

Oh, and one more, I'd like the government to stop listening to our phone calls and monitoring our e mail without warrants.

Which of these points do you disagree with? Anyone?

[jharp]

Markj,

"Excellent? Compared to who?"

Compared to McCain.

As I see it. Three reasons.

Ending the occupation of Iraq.

Health care reform.

Tax reform. I'll no longer pay a higher rate than Warren Buffett.

To be honest past those three I really don't give much of a dam though I like to see us stop torturing the folks we are holding without charges.

Oh, and one more, I'd like the government to stop listening to our phone calls and monitoring our e mail without warrants.

Which of these points do you disagree with? Anyone?

[jharp]

Markj,

"Excellent? Compared to who?"

Compared to McCain.

As I see it. Three reasons.

Ending the occupation of Iraq.

Health care reform.

Tax reform. I'll no longer pay a higher rate than Warren Buffett.

To be honest past those three I really don't give much of a dam though I like to see us stop torturing the folks we are holding without charges.

Oh, and one more, I'd like the government to stop listening to our phone calls and monitoring our e mail without warrants.

Which of these points do you disagree with? Anyone?

[IslamoLlama]

Ok, just as a quick example of the crazy stupid shit you will not see from an Obama Presidency:

"-- The Bush administration on Friday urged a federal appeals court to stop meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease, but a skeptical judge questioned whether the government has that authority. The government seeks to reverse a lower court ruling that allowed Kansas-based Creekstone Farms Premium Beef to conduct more comprehensive testing to satisfy demand from overseas customers in Japan and elsewhere.

But Creekstone attorney Russell Frye contended the Agriculture Department’s regulations covering the treatment of domestic animals contain no prohibition against an individual company testing for mad cow disease, since the test is conducted only after a cow is slaughtered. He said the agency has no authority to prevent companies from using the test to reassure customers.

Larger meatpackers have opposed Creekstone’s push to allow wider testing out of fear that consumer pressure would force them to begin testing all animals too. Increased testing would raise the price of meat by a few cents per pound…. --"

The Bush Administration is actively moving to thwart a company from testing its own meat for Mad Cow. Put that government regulation in your pipe and smoke it.

This is what the GOP has become. The President of the party of free market capitalism using US tax dollars to squelch a business from the very self-regulation the libertarian crowd has always promised would come from a truly open market.

Barry Goldwater is turning over in his grave. Calvin Coolidge probably just shit himself. Worst. President. Ever.

Can't even get his own party platform right anymore.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"As for the stem cell study, Willie, you might want to read up on it a bit more."

Ah it's you needs to read up more then you would not be saying there was ever a 'ban' on research. The question was rather or not oyu and I should pay for it. An argument that pales in the face of a: the experiimentation that you mention was well underway and pretty much only caused cancer in lab rats which brings us to b: that had it been valid there would be no need for govt funding. Again, I got that info from the right wing think tank you often cite: NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO which we all know is funded by Cheney's Ninja homeless burglary detacthment.

"People who don't vote for Barack Obama are racist!" OH COME ON LLama, you're smarter than this when you're high. For Pete's freekin' sake, is being contrary all the time that important to you????

"

[WAHOO WILLIE]

""-- The Bush administration on Friday..."

YAWNNNNN Link please

[WAHOO WILLIE]

Damn....Add to the last *Of course we wont see Obie trying to tell a privately owned business what it can and can't do.* (winkies,winkies) No, not the same guy who is touting "windfall profit taxes"

[IslamoLlama]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/mad_cow

Happy to provide

[WAHOO WILLIE]

Mad LLama disease:

Our dear friend from Texas of all places tells us how Da Guvment is preventing some poor lil company from testing it's cow pieces for spongiform. We da peeples's are best led down the primrose path by those who control our info. What Pookie the LLama neglected to pass on was that the government declines to give (G_I_V_E) these folks *FREE* test kits. They could buy their own. The reason Da Mannn does not feel the need to give one company *FREE* test kits is because there have been 3 *THUUUREEE* cases of mad cow in da American heard. Now most of you are not from Texas and some may think your steak comes from the grocery store but let me assure you that three cows are only a very small portion of the national herd. Oh, did I mention that mad cow "is not detected in young animals," the bulk of the 35 million head of U.S. cattle slaughtered for meat each year.
In most of the world they not only have cheaper health care......the government (USDA) tests the meat supply.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

I suspect you once enjoyed a different form of "I'll show you mine....."

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2006-03-23-mad-cow-suit_x.htm

[Lala]

This part was left out -

The government seeks to reverse a lower court ruling that allowed Arkansas City, Kan.-based Creekstone Farms Premium Beef to conduct more comprehensive testing to satisfy demand from overseas customers in Japan and elsewhere.

Less than 1 percent of slaughtered cows are currently tested for the disease under Agriculture Department guidelines. The agency argues that more widespread testing does not guarantee food safety and could result in a false positive that scares consumers.

"They want to create false assurances," Justice Department attorney Eric Flesig-Greene told a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.

[Lala]

From CNN -

Japan imposed a ban on U.S. beef imports in December 2003 after the first case of mad cow disease was found in the United States. The ban was lifted in 2005, but imposed again in January 2006 after an import violation.

U.S. beef imports resumed in July 2006, but sales are a fraction of what they used to be.

Japan's finicky consumers are sensitive to suggestions American meat is unsafe, and some officials urged U.S. producers to be more careful.

Under the agreement, Japan accepts only meat from cattle 20 months of age and younger, which are thought to pose less of a risk of the disease. U.S. exporters must also remove spinal columns, brain tissue and other materials from shipments bound for Japan.

[SacTownMan]

Human Embryo = Human Life

The controversy with stem cell research is centered around the use of human embryo's. Embryonic stem cells are taken from a developing embryo at the blastocyst stage, destroying the embryo, a developing human life. Adult stem cells, on the other hand, are found in all tissues of the growing human being and, according to latest reports, also have the potential to transform themselves into practically all other cell types, or revert to being stem cells with greater reproductive capacity. Embryonic stem cells have not yet been used for even one therapy, while adult stem cells have already been successfully used in numerous patients, including for cardiac infarction (death of some of the heart tissue).

The reference Willie mentions was an embroynic study with mice that had 20% of the cells be "undifferentiated". To have even one cell means likely tumor formation. Adult cells show much greater promise but you can't get rich off of something that is free!

The idea of creating human embryo's for the purpose of research is what is abhorant to those that value human life.

America has "thrown out the trash" 46 million times since 1973. Heck that's only 1.3 million in America last year. Plenty of fuel for the old incinerator eh Lame-O!

[Lala]

Here's Creekstone's complaint

http://tinyurl.com/4sj9ok

[jharp]

More good news for America.

ABC News.

"In general election matchups, Obama leads McCain by 51-44 percent, similar to the last two ABC News/Washington Post polls. Standings in a Clinton vs. McCain race are 49-46 percent, again roughly similar to previous ABC News/Washington Post results."

The GOP nightmare is soon to be over.

[LOL]

I cant remember the last time a Dem won WV and KY.

[seekeronos]

"--- in the UK, The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill, which will permit the creation of human-animal hybrid embryos, is going through Parliament. ---"

Yummy! Where do I sign up for my very own nephilim/chupacabra hybrid? Or a ten-legged chicken that can do multivariable calculus?

Really folks. Between murdering 46 million innocent babies and genetically engineering all sorts of golems from the remains of their salted carcasses so violently ripped from their wombs, liberals just offer SO much promise for our future.

"--- "In general election matchups, Obama leads McCain ... The GOP nightmare is soon to be over. ---"

Aye, Obie's just about got this in the bag, according to the liberal lackies.

Don't count your chickens before they come...

...home to roost!!

...

Erm,

... I mean, "don't count your chickens until they've hatched".

[jharp]

"Really folks. Between murdering 46 million innocent babies.."

When all else fails it's back to the abortion issue. And to be honest I don't balme you because you've got nothing else.

Please share with me what the GOP has done about it since holding the Congress, Senate, Executive branch, and Supreme Court for the past 8 years.

And saw one of your guys on Hannity the other night. Barr? I believe.

I think he is planning on running as a Libertarion. No?

[SacTownMan]

Even better news for America:

http://www.presidentelectionpolls.com/2008/presidential-matchups/barack-obama-vs-john-mccain.html

McCain leads in all of the most important swing states including, Texas, Ohio, Penn, N.Y., Florida, Mich, Virgina. But hey Barry's got the Guam vote locked up!

In the most important area of electoral college votes McCain leads Barry 326 - 203.

Sorry Barry but it takes 270 to be POTUS.

Again Harpo picks a poll that says just what he wants to hear and ignores everything else. You could cite every poll you want but when Barry can't carry Florida, Ohio and NY he's got real problems.

Glad to hear you're finaly watching a great American like Sean though. A closet FOX News fan eh? George Soros is really going to be pissed when he finds out.

[docweasel]

Maybe the libs will finally make good on their threat to move to Canadia?
Or more probably, they'll wait until the 2012 election of Jeb Bush as president, when McCain declines to run for a 2nd term to to age and health. That should do it.

[docweasel]

re:SacTownMan

holy cripes, that poll has McCain up in NY and Michigan by 6 points each. If the Dems lose NY, you're looking at a disaster in November for down-ticket races for Democrats. It would have to get pretty bad for them to lose NY.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

Harpie sez: "When all else fails it's back to the abortion issue."
"Please share with me what the GOP has done about it..."

Because he was not paying attention in class. You just know a man named after Oprah spent a lot of time with his nose in a circle on the black board in school. Well harpie let us catch you up. It was your friend and mentor Pookie Da LLama who brought abortion by bringing up stem cell research. Which is admittedly a gray area, since she was more concerned with eggs. Anyway, according to her the big bad meanies at the GOP wont let scientists create fertilized embryos in the lab for pointless experiments...thus the discussion. Now please lay your head on your desk and quit disturbing the students who dont want to be drones. Just nap a while your free lunch is coming.

[joeb]

In today's Washington Post newspaper.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/12/AR2008051203014.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR

[seekeronos]

"--- Please share with me what the GOP has done about it since holding the Congress, Senate, Executive branch, and Supreme Court for the past 8 years.

And saw one of your guys on Hannity the other night. Barr? I believe.

I think he is planning on running as a Libertarion (sic). No? ---"

Former Congressman Bob Barr is a hopeful for the Libertarian nomination. He'd be a pretty good bet, a relatively big name who might co-opt the lefty/libertarian wing (if not most) Ron Paul-ites.

He'd have a good chance of getting the Libertarians noticed for something other than being the "party of pot", as exemplified by their other candidates like Steve Kubby. (although NORML has more to say about that).

- - - - - - - - - -

As for the abortion thing, well... you can only do so much to overturn a SCOTUS ruling. Even if a centre-right SCOTUS cannot be reasonably expected to overturn a previous ruling, then there are two remedies, both of which are quite difficult in their own rights to achieve:

(1) Amend the Constitution (either by 34 state legislatures calling for a convention, or by introducing the amendment to be ratified by 2/3 of both houses of congress, with 3/4 of the states (38 states) ratifying it per Article V

(2) Congress exercising its ability under the Constitution, Article III Sect. 2 Para. 2 to remove (abortion) from Federal jurisdiction (i.e. invalidating the Roe v. Wade by removing it from the SCOTUS's review) as reads:

"---- In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make. ----"

The one thing I'll agree with jharp here is, that the GOP-lead congress has failed to stand up for the constitutional right to life of these poor, murdered innocent babies who have been mercilessly torn limb from limb and poisoned with brine, whilst our rulers (both Democrat and GOP) look on dispassionately as if those babies were so many "useless, parasitic blobs of flesh".

The GOP congress and the Democratic congress both have blood-soaked hands - hands soaked with the blood of willful ignorance and willful hatred of innocent life, for the sake of gain of mammon.

Even more monstrous and abominable in the sight of our Most Holy God will be any attempt to harvest living embryos and the creation of chimeras for the sake of "science".

In this regard, we are building up a store of sin and a cup filled with the blood of innocents that shall drown this nation, and cause her pride to be thrown down to the dust and be broken in pieces: for strong is the Lord who shall judge her, lest she repent of her heinous sins.

And it is a nation-wide failing on our part as well, failing to hold our congressmen accountable for this grave sin: for if we would cry aloud for the sake of the spilled blood, it would certainly be heeded in Washington, DC.

[seekeronos]

"--- the 2012 election of Jeb Bush as president... ---"

Uh, no. Dynastic presidencies of any sort are bad for the health of the Republic.

Especially given all the unpleasant rumours surrounding the Bush family's involvement in Skull-and-Bonery and all that rot.

No more Bushes, no more Clintons, no more Roosevelts, thank you!

[Fred Beloit]

j "Race-card, Double-post" harp writes:
"Oh, and one more, I'd like the government to stop listening to our phone calls and monitoring our e mail without warrants."

As to phone calls, you don't have your phone tapped, Harpo, unless bin-Laden or somebody like him phones you from outside the US or unless you yourself are outside the US and call or receive a call from bin-Laden or somebody like him also outside the US. There is no "domestic" wire tapping going on. Second, for someone like you, who favors our government's enemies over our government and who says the worst kind of things about the current administration, to openly operate over the the Internet without any fear of reprisal whatever shows either that you are absolutely fearless OR that you yourself don't believe your emails and comments are "bugged". In reality it is you who have the bugs, big ones running through tunnels in your fevered brain.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Bush family's involvement in Skull-and-Bonery"

Oh seek, you must try to keep up. Since we've learned that John F Kerry was a member of Skull n Bones BEFORE GW became a member it is no longer an issue Secret Societies and such. However, there is that nasty business where some guy who once shook hands with Jeb's former business partner's cousin's brother in law. Apparently they guy, not really caring about return business in the tens of thousands, purposely sold defective pumps to New Orleans......then insisted that they install and maintain them improperly. I'm not sure whether it was the real Darth Vader or James E. Jones who insisted upon the arrangement.