Would You Buy A Used Car From This Man?

Obama seems to have lost some of his glow in the eyes of many. Many might expect Michelle Malkin to be unimpressed with Obama's latest response to the Wright issue.

But looking at Memeorandum, the disenchantment seems to be spread around.

Honestly, this just doesn't add up for Obama. His connection with Wright was either very close, or he's the kind of individual who doesn't care about who baptizes his children, marries him, etc. And that would fly in the face of the image he's created -, of a man who cares about everything, all creatures great and small.

The O-gasm might have been nice while it lasted for some on the Left. But the parties over. The lights came up. They're now finding themselves in bed with just another coyote ugly politician. And there's another one with much more experience in the wings that's been around seemingly forever: Hillary Clinton.

Only people as deranged as Andrew Sullivan, or Glenn Greenwald are buying his nosense.

I'll hold off predicting which dog the Dems go home with for now. But I suspect either way, they end up screwed in November.

Also, assuming some libs will respond to this post with the poll of the day showing Obama and or Clinton as a likely winner in the General - give me a break. Those polls aren't worth the paper they are printed on, or the HTML it took to code the web page they're on.

The Democrat's chickens have come home to roost.

Comments

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Probably not a well thought out post by myself but, Willie, my friend.

Other than peaches, I believe the blue staters produce a very comparable amount of the good stuff you mentioned."

Harpie; Quite right and an excellant point. See, it's you who began making these comparisons. I expect it from certain others but you throw me. As does someone who on one hand would maintain to protect the environment, prevent "global whatever it is this week", etc. Then post comments about states that "prefer to stay rural and stupid." Pookie the LLama has very likely been out of Texas a some point and knows that all the states are mostly rural. Just seems sorta oxymoronic, stop global disaster by building mega-cities. But, the things some preach are not really their idea of heaven........are they?

[bobInStamford]

Happy Mission Accomplished Day, patriots!!! Your steely determination has resulted in a huge VICTORY against the brown evil-doers!!! If it wasn't for your service, we would all be speaking Iraqi. Now you can turn off the lights in your trailers at night and know that Saddam Hussein will NEVER attack us again!

A grateful nation thanks you!

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Is their duty to vote for the most electable candidate or is their duty to follow the will of the popular vote within their state? Or is it to follow the vote of their own constituents?"

Duty is an interesting concept. Judging from what I've seen here there are no specifics. A hanful of NC delegates have already made their pick weeks before the primary.The majority by their admission are waiting to back the winner. That leaves "constituents" and since not all delegates are elected officials but are chosen by their local party........and being good demonrats.......They must kiss the hand that feeds them. So the "constituents" is da whiner. I mean winner.

[bobInStamford]

Settle down, firehouse-visiting patriot. While a 'hanful' of delegates have made their picks, another 'hanful' hasn't . Perhaps you should wait until the 'hanfuls' are counted.

Happy Mission Accomplished Day!

[templar knight]

I see the horse's ass from Stamford has graced us with an early appearance. You haven't been around much the past few days, boob, have you been coordinating the election at Dartmouth, trying to keep the Red Staters from taking over? Those damn peasants from the Red States never learn, they're always trying to take shit over with their brainlessness. Dammit. But you are the ma...uh...I mean...horse's rear end that can stop them, and the anti-Democratic forces at Dartmouth owe you their thanks. Mission accomplished, HA, mission accomplished!

[templar knight]

"I like your mention of collards."

Collards in Indiana? Where in the hell are you going to get the fatback to flavor it with? No..no..no. Collards are an acquired taste, and I've never known a Yankee who liked them, and besides, there's that thing about being able to make a decent cake of cornbread, and I've never seen a Yankee who could do that, either.

What's your take on collards above the Mason-Dickson line, Willie?

[LOL]

super delegates have no duty perse, except to vote for a candidate, imo. It would be foolish to select the candidate other than the one picked by the majority, but they are free to do so.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Is their duty to vote for the most electable candidate or is their duty to follow the will of the popular vote within their state? Or is it to follow the vote of their own constituents?

In advance, I don't know the answer. --"

They were originally set up after McGovern got elected in opposition to Nixon, if I recall. Basically, they were designed to be a hedge against demagoguery and Republican dirty tricks. When Barry Goldwater got elected on the "lets get conservative" platform, the GOP party elites rushed to embrace his ideology. When McGovern got elected on the "lets get liberal" platform, the Dem party elites freaked out. Of course, McGovern's rise in prominence only happened after Nixon helped sabotage his competition.

But the real purpose of the Super Delegates isn't to side with the popular vote or the politically prudent vote. Their purpose is to side with the candidate most likely to help them out down ticket. A Super Delegate who thinks Hillary's name at the top of the ballot will benefit him or her in getting re-elected, should vote for Hillary. A Super who thinks Obama will help his or her district, should vote Obama. That's the ultimate calculus involved.

Hillary controlled a great deal of party funding and had her hands deep in the Democratic election machine. She immediately received a lion's share of the delegates because they wanted her support in the fall. But Obama was a stronger candidate down ticket in traditionally red states and had a wider popular appeal in purple states. The more exposure and popularity he picks up, the more Supers fall into his camp. Wyoming Democrats, for instance, would love to see Obama's name at the top of the ballot. The Clinton name is political poison in that state. Furthermore, Obama is closely tied in with Howard Dean, and Dean's Fifty State Strategy has been used aggressively by Obama to fund raise and campaign in traditionally red states. So red state Dems, receiving an influx of national support and funding, have been flocking to Obama's banner. Blue state Dems and the Dem Party political consultant class absolutely hate Obama for cutting into their slice of the funding pie.

If you want to know how a Super is going to vote in August, you really don't have to look past these basic principles. Funding and support increase a candidate's chances of getting elected. Obama and Clinton derive their support from Supers who believe they'll get more of that funding and support if they are elected.

[Lala]

As always, there are differing views on every subject and this is the one I've heard most often:

Published on Saturday, January 5, 2008 by The Nation
The Tyranny of Super-Delegates
by Katrina vanden Heuvel

Barack Obama’s stirring victory in Iowa was also a good night for our democracy. The turnout broke records and young people - who were mobilized and organized - participated in unprecedented numbers. And now that Iowans have spoken - the first citizens in the nation to do so - here’s the Democratic delegate count for the top three candidates (2,025 delegates are needed to secure the nomination):

Clinton - 169

Obama - 66

Edwards - 47

“Huh?” you say. “vanden Heuvel, you made a MAJOR typo.”

In fact, those numbers are correct: the third-place finishing Sen. Hillary Clinton now has over twice as many delegates as Sen. Obama, and more than three times as many delegates as the second-place candidate, Sen. John Edwards. Why? Because the Democratic Party uses an antiquated and anti-democratic nominating system that includes 842 “super-delegates” - un-pledged party leaders not chosen by the voters, free to support the candidate of their choice, and who comprise more than forty percent of the delegates needed to win the nomination. Many have already announced the candidate they will support.

In a clear attempt to protect the party establishment, this undemocratic infrastructure was created following George McGovern’s landslide defeat in 1972. It was designed to prevent a nominee who was “out of sync with the rest of the party,” Northeastern University political scientist William Mayer told MSNBC. Democratic National Committee member Elaine Kamarck called it a “sort of safety valve.”

In 1988, Reverend Jesse Jackson challenged the notion that these appointed delegates be permitted to vote for the candidate of their choosing rather than the winner of the state’s caucus or primary. He was right to do so. Twenty years later, when the word “change” is being bandied about, isn’t it time for the Democratic Party to give real meaning to the word? Strengthen our democracy by reforming the super-delegate system so that the people, not the party establishment, choose their candidate.

Katrina vanden Heuvel is editor of The Nation.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Twenty years later, when the word “change” is being bandied about, isn’t it time for the Democratic Party to give real meaning to the word? --"

The Super Delegate system is coming under serious scrutiny and - with talks of revamping the primary rotation for 2012 anyway - I wouldn't be surprised if we saw modifications in the future.

That said, I'd hardly call the Super Delegate system "undemocratic" given that we pick our President using the Electoral College. Super Delegates aren't just random party shmoes, they're the elected representatives of the fifty states and the territories. European Countries select their Prime Minister in a similar fashion. The House and Senate select their Speaker and Majority Leaders in a similar fashion. US Senators in many states were originally selected by a vote in their home states' legislatures.

The Super Delegate system isn't democracy in its purest form, but we live in a representative government. We passed on Greek-style one-man one-vote hard line democracy back when we founded the country.

Given that the last President of the United States was picked by a majority of Supreme Court Justices, I find it somewhat comic to hear bitching and moaning about the Super Delegate system now.

[Lala]

Well, I guess Van den Heuvel has a bone to pick with her party.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"They must kiss the hand that feeds them."

"If you want to know how a Super is going to vote in August, you really don't have to look past these basic principles. Funding and support increase a candidate's chances of getting elected. Obama and Clinton derive their support from Supers who believe they'll get more of that funding and support if they are elected."

My my Pookie, we said the exact same thing differently......

"I find it somewhat comic to hear bitching and moaning about the Super Delegate system now."

Yep it's hilarious especially when we consider who's doing the bitching. Yeah, there will be "adjustments" for 2012......Bet on it. Let's go with a super primary.

"

[Fred Beloit]

I think I smell. I DO smell...a stinky Big Lie. There it is. Moe pulled it from Moe's underwears:

"Given that the last President of the United States was picked by a majority of Supreme Court Justices, I find it somewhat comic to hear bitching and moaning about the Super Delegate system now."

This is a really BIG LIE. Because it was Al "Wanna-buy-a-pollution-ticket?" Gore who brought this case to the court, not Bush. The truth of this matter starts at about 10:30 into the video. Shame on you Moe and your ever-ready false charges. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/24/60minutes/main4040290.shtm

[jharp]

Templar,

"and I've never known a Yankee who liked them,"(collards)

Just back from golf. Been drinking and wanted to catch up with friends.

You now know a yankee (originally an ohioan) who thinks collards are the best.

Cheers. And out to get the garden ready for the collards.

[tally]

hillary is the only one that can win in the general. NOBAMA 2008

[jharp]

Ferd.

I'm in a good mood mood but you on 00% dead wrong.

"Gore who brought this case to the court, not Bush.

[jharp]

Sorry,

That;s Fred and 100%

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Ferd.

I'm in a good mood mood but you on 00% dead wrong."

I've always heard this happens when one smokes Indiana corn silk.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"I think I smell. I DO smell...a stinky Big Lie."

No Fred, that smell is da collards.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

I hate odd numbers

[templar knight]

Jharp,

But can you make a decent cake of corn bread? And I was just kidding about the collards. They stink the house up, and I prefer a mixture of mustard and turnip greens, myself. With a little sugar added, to knock the bitter out. Damn, I'm giving up my secrets.

[Fred Beloit]

Pharj may have been smoking what we kids used to call "Indian cigars" in Chicago. They are very common in the Midwest. They are the seed pods of the catalpa tree. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalpa

Since we were always in a hurry to do grownup things we would pick the green pods early in Spring as they got to good size. We would lovingly place them on nearby garage roofs where they would cure. When they dried out and browned, we would smoke them. No, they were not very good, but the price was right.

[Ferd Beloit]

Pharj writes: "

"Ferd. I'm in a good mood mood but you on 00% dead wrong."

Pharj, Which of these things should we do?
1) Call 911 and send them to your house
2) Call a Doc and arrange an appointment for you
3) Join you by pouring ourselves a Kir Royale and following it with a shot of Old Overholt.

[jharp]

Ferd,

A little too much fire water for me on the golf course yesterday.

"But can you make a decent cake of corn bread?"

No, I can't but planning to learn. Good, good stuff.

As are the turnip greens.

[Ferd Beolit]

Pharj, I hope you weren't drinking while playing. It is bad for the score. Here is a little ratio for you:

Drinking while golfing is to scoring as drinking while skiing is to health.

[Pete]

I'm not "married" to any political party. I've voted for candidates from both. I am a conservative, and sometimes the Democratic candidate is more conservative than the Republican one. Like many of you, I am disappointed in Bush, but I digress. From my perspective, McCain is a Democrat and someone I am not particularly fond of. I never imagined that I would ever vote for him for President, but that is exactly what I'll be doing in the oncoming election because I consider him the lesser of the evils. NEITHER of the two Democrats will pull troops out of Iraq if elected. Don't kid yourself about that. That is a campaign "promise" that will not be kept. Iran is right next door, kids. Speaking of kids, I have a 21 y/o son in Iraq right now.

I voted for Obama in my state's primary. Why? Because McCain was obviously going to be the Republican candidate for president, and my vote would have been a wasted one even though I would have preferred someone else. I did have a chance to affect the outcome in the Democratic race, and I used my vote (as did the two other voters in my household) to help Obama be his party's candidate. For the record, I know many in my circle of friends and aquaintances that voted similarly. Obama won in my state.

I viewed Obama as unelectable to the highest office in the land then and even more so now, since the Rev. Wright debacle. IMHO, he's too left and too inexperienced. He could be white, red, purple, or green, and I would still feel the same way. Hillary has a much better chance of beating McCain IMHO. Hillary IS electable. I certainly hope Obama wins his party's endorsement. However, one thing is for sure, the Democratic convention is going to be very ugly. I certainly hope the Democrats don't catch on to the reason why many of us voted the way we did in our state primaries. It's doubtful they will. I see in today's news that Obama has picked up more super delegate support. Glad to hear it.

[jharp]

"Pharj, I hope you weren't drinking while playing. It is bad for the score."

Yes, I was. A lot.

And believe it or not it helps the score to a point. I'd say about the first 2 through 10 drinks loosen you up. After that it can become a little too much. I had about 16 and shot 86 and 85. And broke even on the gambling.

Not my best but not bad. And great fun. A triple press against me on the final and a spectacular par made me even for the day.

[templar knight]

Jharp, be sure to use buttermilk in your cornbread, and never use a mix...never. You will need an iron skillet, also. You have to make a crust on the cornbread on the stovetop, and then put it in the oven for baking. Now that's the last cooking secrets I'm going to give up. My grandma is going to kill me.

However, hot water cornbread is the best with any kind of greens, but you need to learn how to make a good cake of cornbread prior to taking on anything new. Now, go to it.

[jharp]

Thank you kindly, templar.

I'll definitely give it a shot.

[templar knight]

jharp, the boob thinks all I can do is BBQ, a Texas tradition I might add, but I've competed in steak-cooking competitions and cowboy cookoffs, where the cornbread made on a campfire in a Dutch oven is the best. You can make the best Mexican stew using cornbread as the base and adding any Mexican food you like, along with a little hot sauce made by Jardine's in Buda, Texas. We call that hot sauce Texas champagne. You can order it over the internet, and if you're into hot sauces, it's one of the best.

However, I might trade it all for two rounds of golf in the 80's, and I'd kill for a par or lower. I guess I need to take up drinking. In my next life maybe.

[Mr Spock]

Jharp says I'd say about the first 2 through 10 drinks loosen you up. After that it can become a little too much. I had about 16 and shot 86 and 85.

Since Jharp lies about so much so often, it is illogical to assume he is telling the truth here, unless the drinks were non-alcoholic. Averaging almost one drink per hole, a golfer would no-longer be able to hit the ball after hole 7, and after hole 13 would no longer be able to see it.

It is more logical to assume he is an Islamic who has absolutely no experience with drinking alcohol (Do not drink a drop of wine) and little experience with golf.

[Mr Spock]

Jharp may now say But I played 36 holes. I shot an 86 and 85 I said.

Logically, if this is true, I need to revise my figures. He averaged almost one drink per two holes. He would have missed the ball starting about the hole 14 and been unable to locate it about hole 26. In addition it would be illogical to assume he would shoot a better score on the second 18 holes than on the first 18 because he would have been pretty drunk by at least the second 9 of his second 18 holes.

By the way, today is a Vulcan holiday. Happy @rug&*)$@ to you all.

[jharp]

Mr Spock,

Bring. It. On.

Disclaimer. First 18 was from blue tees. Second from the whites.

And what the eff do you know about golf?

[Fred Beloit]

I'm afraid I can't list what I know about golf in this space. Just a sample question for you though: Do you use, if you are right-handed, a short or long thumb grip for the left hand? Your turn. What do you know about drinking, Foulmouth?

[jharp]

Do you use, if you are right-handed, a short or long thumb grip for the left hand?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

"Your turn. What do you know about drinking,"

I know as a 190 lb. man playing golf for 8 hours that 10 drinks makes my blood alcohol content less than .08. Legal to drive.

Disclaimer. I don't drive home after that many. My point is you can play perfectly fine after that many. Now add 6 more and it gets a little tougher.

[ranox]

"Do you use, if you are right-handed, a short or long thumb grip for the left..."

That's a good one, Fred.

I use a short thumb, myself. And I don't believe people who brag about golf scores.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"And I don't believe people who brag about golf scores."

Or fishermen or hunters.........or guys in the locker room

[jharp]

"And I don't believe people who brag about golf scores."

An 85 and 86 isn't bragging, you hacker.

I'll let you guys know when I shoot something worthwhile. And believe me, if I'm going to tell a lie, which it extraordinarily rare,, it ain't going to be on some obscure message board.

Seriously, what could I possibly stand to gain from it.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Seriously, what could I possibly stand to gain from it."

Lighten up man! Dude you seriously need to "git ja lost in da reggae mon as you walk along da beach"