And The Race Goes On

Current results have Hillary winning PA by between 8 and 10 points. Based upon the way specific counties traditionally report, her margin could go up. Eight points is enough to argue for Hillary to go on. Anything above and those super delegates will find themselves in a real serious bind.

Do they bow to political correctness and say it's Obama - no matter what? Or do they have the guts to admit he's unelectable and go for Hillary, instead?

Well, they're Democrats ... what do you think they'll do?

The good news is, the Dem primary race is going to go on, causing even more consternation for the Dems. The bad news for Hillary is that - she should have won this going away in the first place, and didn't; and the Dems are not anxious to have their convention turn into a giant food fight with the potential to destroy the Party.

Hillary's only real hope is to combine Michigan, Fla. and the remaining states, ultimately coming away with the total popular vote lead. If she does that, the case for her getting the nod can justifiably be made, though it'll still hurt the party on the margins with uber-liberals and blacks over time.

Bottom line - who won tonight? Hillary and also McCain and the GOP.

Comments

[jharp]

"Do they bow to political correctness and say it's Obama - no matter what?"

It has nothing to do with political correctness. It has everything to do putting the best candidate forward.

"Well, they're Democrats ... what do you think they'll do?"

I think they'll nominate the candidate most likely to win.

"The good news is, the Dem primary race is going to go on, causing even more consternation for the Dems."

I don't understand this thinking. The dems have two good cadidates. The GOP has one that even they don't even like much.

"The bad news for Hillary is that - she should have won this going away in the first place, and didn't;"

And how is having two good candidates bad news? You've been listening to too much Limbo.

"and the Dems are not anxious to have their convention turn into a giant food fight with the potential to destroy the Party."

You are mistaken. Having two good candidates will not destroy the party. You want to see what destroys a party? See George Bush.

[LOL]

it really isn't that consternating for me. The Dems are engaged in a history making primary campaign. And I don't mean that because of the superficial qualities of the candidates. I can't think of an election that went this late into the primary gauntlet in the last 35 years.

Whoever wins will wipe the floor with mccain. A few pointed exchanges about iraq, the economy, and health care will remind americans who actually wants to solve problems and who only wants to use government for some elaborate parlor game of cronyism and nepotism.

[Steven Den Beste]

Speaking as an outsider, this is getting more hilarious by the minute. The Dems are well and truly hoist by their own petard.

[Dan Riehl]

Based upon exit polls, neither Iraq, nor Health Care were major concerns. I realize it's the Dem conventional wisdom, but perhaps America doesn't want the kind of change a Dem admin would bring?

Admittedly, McCain is a weak candidate ... but why he loses, if he even does, might be for other reasons.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"The dems have two good cadidates. The GOP has one that even they don't even like much."

The dems have two they are quite excited about (I still see a ticket in the two) and as far as real conservatives are concerned, the GOP also has a dem candidate. Sorry kids, the dems could run Mao AND ALgore this time around and win. You're getting a dem president and you deserve it.......

[DBrooks]

I agree with Steven--the whole thing is quite amusing to me. As for the inevitability of a Democrat winning, I'm less and less persuaded by that argument. It is a long way to November, and it will take more than the proclamations of Wahoo Willie to convince me that any outcome is inevitable at this point. It still looks as if Obama will be the Democratic nominee. Personally, I think he faces real challenges persuading white blue-collar Democrats, moderates, and Hispanics to vote for him rather than McCain. There are several critical states in which this reality could cost him dearly, and that could decide the whole election in November. But, as I said, we shall see.

[joeb]

People under estimate the importance of the spouse of the candidate. John Kerry lost in big part because of his wife. She was not what Americans wanted as a first lady.
Now do they want Bill Clinton as first hubby? I don't think so.
Do they want Michelle Obama as first lady? I don't think so.
Cindy McCain fits the role of first lady. Very much like Nancy Reagan did.
I look for John McCain to win and Cindy will be one of the big reasons why John will win.
Also I dont think Obama or Hillary are "two good candidates". Not at all.
I think they are both weak candidates in a national election. Too many obvious negatives. This year reminds me very much of 1968. And you know who won that year.

[Fred Beloit]

I do believe Harpo has hired a comedy writer or two. Harpo put his mane to this:
"I don't understand this thinking. The dems have two good cadidates[sic]. The GOP has one that even they don't even like much."

Half the country, including the NYT, WAPO, the broadcast networks, and the top leaders of the Dem party, can't stand Hillary.

Obama is the most liberal Senator we have. Americans have shown over and over again since LBJ that they will not make an extreme liberal like Obama the President.

[ET]

jharp--

You are the one drinking the kool aid. the dems have two lousy candidates, and the more time they spend pointing out one another's weaknesses, the more the American electorate with gravitate to the familiarity of McCain.

It must be tough to be a democrat, what with the failed congress and the exposure of the ignorance and deceit of your presidential candidates, your party has once again proven its ineptitude. Get ready for McCain 08.

[seekeronos]

I am seriously beginning to think that the United States - or rather, the dreams of Americans who wish for prosperity under a free and constitutionally sound republic - are doomed no matter who wins in November.

The Tweedledee/Tweedledum factor of all of three remaining candidates far surpasses anything in living memory.

McCain is a liberal Republican with a few conservative bumps. He has the widest appeal *at the moment* to the masses of independent voters who are critical to such a hairsplittingly small difference between himself and Hillary. He is somewhat controlled by the George Soros gaggle of financiers and oil interest, not as much as Bush was, but enough to make our lives miserable. He is at heart an authoritarian and quite power-hungry; he is the anti-node of what Fred Thompson seems to have been, and certainly of the Hon. Dr. Ron Paul.

Hillary is a hawkish liberal and extremely evil, caring not a whit for the carcasses she leaves behind or under her "comfortable shoes". She really isn't terribly different from McCain - perhaps just somewhat more zealous for gun-grabbing and socialized medicine, and eager for what she sees as her rightful position on the throne.

Obama is a fringe liberal and may actually believe some of that Marxist spew that he regularly belches up. Unfortunately, his stellar oratorical skills cannot cover up his gaffes and his shady associations, nor can they compensate for increasingly negative media attention, even if the media is being much more "civil" in their criticism (if it were a McCain gaffe, he'd be skewered) - the uber-wealthy Soros elites have decided that he is not to be their horse this time around, and are likely trying to send him a hint that it might be a good idea to head back to the stable.

In the end, the same group of puppetmasters are pulling the same old strings, and for all practical purposes, it may very well be that our votes are simply a beuaty pageant vote much like "American Idol". The GOP Machine™ and the DNC Machine™ will both put their favoured horses to race, but I am nearly convinced that the outcome of November has been long decided quite some time ago -- and that the hedge fund kings and the folks minding the store at the Federal Reserve (among other wicked and diabolic firms) are well in control, ignorantly (or perhaps knowingly) serving their dark master, Lucifer.

And while it nearly moves me to tears to contemplate it - perhaps Rev. Wright is correct -- not on account of his race-driven agenda, but rather because he gleaned one thing that may become our reality, that God has truly judged our nation, and found it to be in rebellion against Him; and the curses of disobedience and sin are coming upon us.

It is time for Americans to repent, to turn from their sins and slothful acceptance of "relativism", and to truly seek the face of their God, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Let us fall upon our knees, and cry out aloud to our God, that He may restore us to faith in Him, and so turn away from executing His fierce wrath upon us.

[chris]

Just when you think that the resident Friend-of-Jesus can't get any nuttier...

Let us all rejoice and give thanks that his wife is spared this creepy rambling due to a language barrier.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Eight points is enough to argue for Hillary to go on. Anything above and those super delegates will find themselves in a real serious bind.

Do they bow to political correctness and say it's Obama - no matter what? Or do they have the guts to admit he's unelectable and go for Hillary, instead? --"

Worst. Pundit. Ever.

No, seriously. Stop before you hurt yourself. I'm on the floor laughing over here. Please tell me someone replaced Dan Riehl with Taylor Marsh for this post, because there is no way that even he is this delusional. Enough to argue for Hillary? Supers in a bind? Admitting Obama is unelectable? Do you even follow politics? My god, its like the man hasn't look at a poll since January.

Seriously, even Kristol has the balls to work a little reality into his laughably incorrect articles. This is just sad.

[chris]

"Bottom line - who won tonight? Hillary and also McCain and the GOP."

Yeah, the party of Bush, WMDs and Larry Craig is a real winner. Check out your dipshit leader in action.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/28/bush-on-4-gas-i-hadnt_n_88907.html

That tired 90 old man is starting to look good!

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Yeah, the party of Bush, WMDs and Larry Craig is a real winner. --"

I think the fact that McCain - as the automatic pre-determined winner of the nomination - still only managed to score 3/4ths of the 800k GOP voters proves how strong he will be going into the General Election. This, when compared to the 2.5 million Dem voters who split between Hillary and Barack within single digits, but who 80/20 insisted that they'd stick with the Dem candidate no matter who won, seems to indicate that McCain has Pennsylvania virtually locked up. I'd start campaigning in New York and California if I was St BBQ. GOP landslide, here we come.

And he's 71, Chris. If he was 90, he'd be rivaling Senator Byrd for Oldest Living Senator.

[chris]

71? In dog years maybe. Ever look at him???

[seekeronos]

"--- Let us all rejoice and give thanks that his wife is spared this creepy rambling due to a language barrier. ---"

chrisのばか、俺の奥さん心配しないで下さい。あんたが阿呆ですか？

[IslamoLlama]

"-- 71? In dog years maybe. Ever look at him??? --"

Hey, shit. I don't make the rules. I'm just telling you how it is.

[seekeronos]

On $4/gallon gas, I'm sure that Bush hasn't had to think about pump prices in quite some time. Of course, he is probably increasing his already substantial fortune through his energy hedge funds, and is along with most other insiders on the commodities bubble, laughing all the way to his Swiss bank accounts.

I'm paying about $3.65 (or about $3.45 if I can get it in north Jersey) per gallon now. As I heard, we are pennies away from breaking through the $120/BBL mark, and it looks set to climb to $150/BBL by the end of May if not sooner. After that, who knows... if the hedge fund operators decide to start dumping their weightings in oil, or do some short-selling in the run-up to $150, we might see a *tiny* bit of relief as the economy starts to shut down from the stress. I expect to see the price climb a full dollar, perhaps peaking at $4.35 or $4.45 for regular and $5.20+ for diesel before it "settles back down" to a substantially and crowd-rejoicingly low price of $3.85 - $3.95 for regular and $4.75 for diesel.

And you know that between the ethanol crunch and the transportation prices (food-mileage counting for as much as 15% of the price of food) are not going to be helped at all.

It might be high time to make like a Mormon and stock up on ammo and dried food, because this summer is may very well prove to be a sockdologer of a food shortage of the likes unseen since the Dust Bowl Years of the 1930s.

Methinks if Soros can engineer an economic wrecking ball to get his man in office, AND make a few billion at the same time, he'll do it with satanic glee as he forces tens of millions of Americans into starvation and into the poorhouse.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

seek: the terrorists,,,ooops...tourists are arriving in the area already (about 6 weeks early) but I imagine the season will suffer big. I may even have to start paying for boat fuel! With fewer people willing to pay to go fishing.Since I volunteer as a river keeper I think I'm entitled to a subsidy, don't you? Hmmm I guess we shoulda let the oil companies build some refineries

[seekeronos]

"--- Hmmm I guess we shoulda let the oil companies build some refineries ---"

That would surely be welcomed.

[templar knight]

seek, I've been hearing about food shortages in Japan. Has your wife heard anything about it from her family?

[chris]

'chrisのばか、俺の奥さん心配しないで下さい。あんたが阿呆ですか'

Either that is some solicitation for used Japanese schoolgirl underwear or, alas, your lovely bride actually does have to listen to your kooky crap. For her sake, I'm hoping for the former.

[seekeronos]

TK - there has been some talk about rice prices going up some 10%-15%, which will encourage them to want to import more from California.

Japan grows most of its own rice, but does source some from Australia which is getting whacked with a nasty drought. Rice doesn't do so well in deserts. Another wrinkle is that Japan could easily import rice from China and Thailand, but a combination of rice snobbery along with a well-deserved reservation of importing any food products from China these days is not helping the price spike either.

In tandem with the rice is also the cost of gas, as the Mrs. tells me, the Japanese government is mulling the idea of revoking the gas sales tax. I think development of a joint discovery with China of some undersea fields between Okinawa and Taiwan might be in the works, I hadn't bothered to look up how big it was.

For chris -

"--- Either that is some solicitation for used Japanese schoolgirl underwear or, alas, your lovely bride actually does have to listen to your kooky crap. For her sake, I'm hoping for the former. ---"

Please, let's not even go there. You about made me vomit into my nose. I am definitely NOT interested in any underwear you might be trying to sell. That's just plain gross.

Save it for your BBW admirers.

[jharp]

joeb,

"Now do they want Bill Clinton as first hubby? I don't think so.
Do they want Michelle Obama as first lady? I don't think so.
Cindy McCain fits the role of first lady. Very much like Nancy Reagan did.
I look for John McCain to win and Cindy will be one of the big reasons why John will win."

Just when I'd thought I'd heard it all you set a new standard for idiotic posts.

Yeah right, the women voters are really going to love Cindy after it becomes common knowledge she was having an affair and banging the hell out McCain while his wife was recovering from a tragic auto accident.

Then marrying him. Gotta give McCain credit though, he is holding up those republican values.

[IslamoLlama]

"-- Just when I'd thought I'd heard it all you set a new standard for idiotic posts. --"

I just like how policy goes out the window in favor of who would make the cutest little debutante at the ball. Sounds kinda... elitist if you ask me.

"-- Methinks if Soros can engineer an economic wrecking ball to get his man in office, AND make a few billion at the same time, he'll do it with satanic glee as he forces tens of millions of Americans into starvation and into the poorhouse. --"

Wow, really? Thousands of hedge fund managers and oil execs in America and its back to evil old Soros? Really? Seriously?

You're like a college kid, sometimes, seek. Trying to rage against the machine when you don't even know who to lash out at. I'll give you about five years until you settle into your wrist-cutting emo phase. Then maybe you'll get a job and move out of your parents' basement.

[seekeronos]

"--- Wow, really? Thousands of hedge fund managers and oil execs in America and its back to evil old Soros? Really? Seriously?

You're like a college kid, sometimes, seek. Trying to rage against the machine when you don't even know who to lash out at. I'll give you about five years until you settle into your wrist-cutting emo phase. Then maybe you'll get a job and move out of your parents' basement. ---"

Trying to butter me up, are you?

I've probably been out of school, gainfully employed or running my own business for as long as you've been alive, if not running around in short pants wetting yourself.

But as for Soros and his cronies, it's like this: how can you even think that a guy who as a young Jewish boy cooperated with the Gestapo to expropriate the property of his fellow Jews in Hungary would not blink an eye at destroying the economy of the United States, if so struck his fancy?

And that's not accounting even for other folks who value keeping themselves and their clients in the black far over the sovereignty or the existence of this Republic? Soros (and many like him) believe themselves to be "world citizens" (and perhaps with even greater hubris, the "masters" of this world), buying and selling the stock and trade of entire nations without even a thought for the millions of livelihoods they shatter in the process.

And lastly, how can you trust a man who changes his last name into a palindrome?

Food for thought!

[Son of a Pig and a Monkey]

Dave,

How do you attract so many dork-wads to your Comments section? Do you put subliminal "Come here, stupid" messages in your text?

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Dave,"

"Dave? Dave's not here man"

yeah, y'all can age yourselves...............