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Fred I was confused why lyrics to "Aint we crazy" would be a HHS website.....then I looked. Of course it's because the song mentions cigarettes. It needed a disclaimer about smoking being hazardous to ones health. Typical of anything government does though, the disclaimer was incomplete for it said nothing of the fire danger of millions of bumble bees flying hither and yon carelessly disposing of their butts in people's flower beds, barns and other places. This is exactly what was to be expected after that damned talking bear died. Things just went to sh** and now bumble bees are running rampant killing other fauna with their second hand smoke and setting fire to entire villages.

LOL:

HaHa. You live up to your name.

What terrible conceit for one so enlightened. We live in a world where demand for commoditites is sky high. Oil being the key one. Any plan to reduce consumption will have negligible effects because the BRIC countries are more than able to pick up any excess supply in the world market. As well, I'm sure that any Obama plan will be government limiting choices in some way that will not work but be symbolic of our commitment to save mother Gaia. Gas will remain sky high for our own good. Of course, it will be staffed by geniuses like yourself who are our moral betters. Great, more bureaucrats telling me how to live my life.

Second, we have already won the Iraq war. Caveman that I am, I do get to view this brightly lit computer thingy from time-to-time. I also read those bound paper things known as books which reveal that--gasp--war is hard. However, the knowledge I gain from the latter enable me to interpret the former. My interpretation is that there are no "inevitable" results in history. I am supposing that you are of a different view. What we have done in Iraq has been remarkable. The problem is that it is imperfect and we live in a world where you are supposed to be able to plan out everything wonderfully. We don't. But, we have given folks in that country an opportunity to live freely. What they do with that opportunity is up to them. We have done it as tremendous costs to ourselves. We have done it with no expectation of reward but better national security.[Truly, no blood for oil.]

I am unable to grasp how burning up the sacrifices in lives, blood and hardship of our military folks will cause greater morale. By withdrawing, the mesasage to them is you suck. Who in their right mind will want to fight in Obama's commando units? When the first inclination of the CinC is to bug out, who will want to stay in the military? [Nice interposition of the chickenhawk argument which proves nothing other than you are a pompous ass.] If you want to know how our folks in uniform really feel, a better gauge is reenlistment rates, not political contributions.


"a better gauge is reenlistment rates, not political contributions."
wjo: You wont turn LOLs head from the campaign donation diatribe. He's like a pit bull....sinks his teeth in something and wont let go know matter how hard you smack his nose. Several of us tried the "DoD is made up of far more thaan soldiers" argument which did absolutely no good. I applaud the "look at reenlistment instead" point though. Does make more sense.

"......the reenlistment rate of Iraqi veterans is underscored by the mass re-enlistment of 3rd Squad/2nd Platoon of Bravo Company, 5th Engineers.

“In my 33-year military career, this is the first time I’ve known an entire squad to [reenlist]” said Brig. Gen. Robin Timmons, commander, 16th Eng. Bde., who conducted the reenlistment ceremony."

While you're singing about the Big Rock Candy Mountain, things ain't looking particularly sweet for Republicans:

In a stunning upset Saturday that could be a sign of trouble for Republicans this fall, a little-known Democratic physicist won the special election for a far west suburban congressional seat long held by former GOP House Speaker Dennis Hastert.

Denny Hastert was a troop-supporter and uniter who also likes to mentor young boys in unitards. He will be missed. Special thanks to General Timmons as well. Both are patriots and liberators. Because of them, Iraq will never attack America again.


"While you're singing about the Big Rock Candy Mountain, things ain't looking particularly sweet for Republicans:"

Wow, I'm sure neither Fred nor I had heard this news until you posted it. Seems to have you and DaBoob a bit upset. While I can't speak for Fred my response is BFD and WGAF? BECAUUUSE!!

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains the jails are made of tin
And you can walk right out again as soon as you are in
There ain't no short handled shovels, no axes saws or picks
I'm a goin to stay where you sleep all day
Where they hung the jerk that invented work
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

"Because of them, Iraq will never attack America again." By another genius, BoobfromBridgeport.

Boob prefers the WWII and Korea model. Let our enemies attack first so we suffer much damage and start the war at a severe disadvantage. You who are unwise in the ways of strategic thinking are probably surprised by the stupidity of this strategy. Hah. How little you know.

The Boob will straighten you out by claiming we can't attack every country in the world. He's right about that; of course no one is suggesting we should. No, we should only attack countries that are getting ready to attack us or our allies. At the present time Iran seems to be drawing attention to itself along these lines.

As an executive I once worked for used to say: "You can look at a horse and tell it's gonna kick you."

You're right, as one who is the owner of a horse can rightly tell you, Fred. I doubt whether the Boob would know the difference between a horse and a mule. The mule is much less likely to kick you, Boob, although you act as if one kicked you squarely in the head.

Yeah, and George Bush looked into Putin's eyes and knew his soul.

Then there's that great George Bush Adventure: Iraq. Next time we start a pre-emptive war, we might want to get our facts straight. Cause the facts are: No WMDs, no nuclear program, no Al Qaeda connection, no 9/11 connection, no mobile weapons lab, no nothing. Guess that horse wasn't ready to kick.

"Then there's that great George Bush Adventure:"

Sweet tea and fresh mint WORSTPOSTEREVER, I'm so glad that you're here to CONSTANTLY remind us of what evrybody already knows. We may forget your opinion (well, whose ever opinion it is) if you moved on. Yes, yes, yes we know that had they found a can of hairspray and a butane lighter you would've been happy to waste lives and money. Let's move on shall we? How about your wonderful opinion on how Gore will win in November?

When Fred and TK quit posting how they just love pre-emptive war - ie Irag - I'll quit reminding them what a FUBAR it is.

But thanks for your concern.

"I'll quit reminding them what a FUBAR it is."

What is-is?

SO could you at least find something in the present tense? Who taught you what FUBAR means, the movies? I mean if you're going to counter what they say, at least attempt an original "feeling" would you?

A big fix to the oil item would be to give the oil companies incentive to start drilling in the ANWR and the Gulf Coast (Gulf of Mexico) as well as employ new technologies for oil extraction in existing American fields that have been capped for some time (allowing for the oil to regenerate itself somewhat, if there is any credence to the abiogenic theory of oil genesis).

Parallel to that would be developing clean coal (which we have an ample supply of) and researching a way to make the Fischer-Tropps (sp) process more efficient to cook the oil out of any oil shale deposits we have.

Encourage sensible firewood use and re-forestation policies to help reduce the bite of northern winters. Run the thermostats at 62.5'F and put on a thick sweater in the winter, and hang up some shades and create cooling drafts in the direction of prevailing winds where possible during the summer instead of running the A/C. Funny thing how people somehow survived the Alabama summer (such as this commenter) without A/C, I'm certain many of us except for the most infirm persons could manage.

Erm, lessee... wind power on the coasts (not necessarily dependable, but every little bit helps) and hectares chock-a-block full of solar concentrator farms and solar thermal towers in the great deserts of the Southwest... tap any geothermal outlets in the volcanically active Northwest, and water wheels with which enterprising property owners with creek-side property could sell back electricity to the grid.

Hydrogen cell technology seems to be a bit prohibitive, and in truth, it is not an energy source so much as it is a store of energy. The more effective way of gearing our transportation needs would be to create a short-distance economy of electric cars that can do 100-150km on a full charge, which can plug into outlets at the job, supermarket, or at home. For longer distance needs, we can employ the droves of Army veterans who will be coming home as we successfully stand up an Iraqi Defense Force by building a network of Mag-Lev trains along the TGV model that get speeds up to 350kph throughout existing train corridors for both people and freight traffic.

Encourage a new housing and a green neighborhood model that stimulates higher density without the attendant crime to replace the woefully wasteful and transportation-deficient suburban subdivision model. Houses with private rooftop gardens and park commons gardens lots to reduce food-miles by providing more locally-sourced food as well as the creation of interlocal food markets: mothers can stay at home more to take care of children and operate side business ventures by creating neighborhood "garderners' markets".

America needs to return to a more localized, semi-agrarian, technologically savvy model of living.

Military: Balance the budget, end involvement in foreign matters that do not directly concern us, and eventually reduce the military to a 1-2-3 model where the manning requirements for Armed Forces are sufficient to maintain a smaller Army for continental defense and border control, with reserve capacity to engage in limited skirmishes as national security requires; a strong blue-water Navy of at least 600 ships that can match the Red Chinese and renewed Russian threats as well as revitalize the American shipwright industry (the Red Chinese are outbuilding us in nuclear attack submarines 5-to-1, and will have a substantial advantage in SLBM-carrying subs within five years - we will need to focus on building up our sub fleet, DD-X destroyers, ASW capability, and littoral combat capacity as well as updating avionics and aircraft on both fleet carriers and the aging LHD "baby carrier" fleets)... and of course, a world-class Aerospace Force which would more aggressively explore space-based solutions to deterring a renewed threat of nuclear or disruptive counter-satellite war from Russia or her Chinese ally, as well as funding for the F-35 and advanced unmanned fighter aircraft, including bombing platforms that and solid mass-earth penetrator projectile munitions that can give us global retaliatory reach from within the CONUS.

Trade: gradually introduce and raise tariffs and reduce individual and corporate income taxes. Reduce and remove certain forms of "corporate welfare" - a particularly odious example being the "baseball taxes" used to build new stadia when the various baseball franchise could easily underwrite the same... with the only exceptions made in case of especially urgent national security or energy security matters.

Gradually disentangle us from LOST (Law of the Sea Treaty), GATT, FTAA, SPP, and especially the UN, among so many internationalist/globalist sovereignty-killing organizations. Continue to abide by any bilateral treaties we have made insofar as they do not contradict our interests or compromise our sovereignty.

Mexico: Discourage excessive immigration by enforcing existing immigration laws, and by providing severe disincentives to employers who illegally employ illegal aliens. Alternatively, put a moratorium on "soil-birth" citizenship (i.e. "anchor babies" immigration) and encourage entrepreneurship and manufactury of minor trinkets and other consumer goods to reduce product-miles from Red China. If we can gear more cheap production in Mexico, and shift our imports there in favour over with that of China, Mexicans benefit from building up their middle class, and we benefit from dealing with a nation that is much closer to our sphere of influence.

Just a few ideas.

Present tense, what are you talking about? It IS Fubared!

From today's news:

Five American soldiers on foot patrol in an upscale shopping district in central Baghdad were killed Monday when a man walked up to them and exploded the explosive-laden vest he was wearing, according to American military officials.

And:

The Iraq war will cost Americans between 3 trillion and 5 trillion U.S. dollars, including military spending, broader economic costs and decades of benefits and medical care for combat veterans, a Nobel prize-winning economist said.

"Five American soldiers on foot patrol." Frankly a bit useless, that could've happned in Jacksonville or Fayetteville on a weekend.

"The Iraq war will cost Americans between 3 trillion and 5 trillion U.S. dollars, including military spending, broader economic costs and decades of benefits and medical care for combat veterans, a Nobel prize-winning economist said."
At least you're getting closer, then this was one of my reasons for not going in the first place. Still I see it isn't your opinion but as usual someone elses. Tell us. Do you ever have thoughts of your own or are you always at the whim of someone elses ideas?

"It IS Fubared!"

Oh and the paste tense of FUBAR.....is FUBAR/

"Frankly a bit useless, that could've happned in Jacksonville or Fayetteville on a weekend."

Like most of your other posts - nonsensical BS. Or perhaps you can remind us of the last time in the US a suicide bomb attack killed five solders?


"Like most of your other posts - nonsensical BS."
"US a suicide bomb attack killed five solders?"

September 9th 2001


Ooops that was supposed to be September 11th 2001

The point is that suicide bombings are common in Iraq, while your post makes it sound like the US has the same level of violence.

"while your post makes it sound like the US has the same level of violence."

I got your point sport. I was making a point that soldiers can be murdered anywhere. We aren't so different being against the war in Iraq dude. I just get tired of the same old BS about why we shouldn't have gone and frankly, I've always thought you smarter than a parrott so do something to make me feel like I was right about you all along.

Mr Ever writes: "Cause the facts are: No WMDs, no nuclear program, no Al Qaeda connection, no 9/11 connection, no mobile weapons lab, no nothing."

Don't tell us. Tell former President Clinton. He believed all those were in Iraq and said so often while he was President.

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